Opinions on Motherboard

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by Mike the Kiwi, Dec 6, 2003.

  1. Hi all,



    I currently run an AMD 1GHz Duron CPU on a DFI mobo but am seriously considering an upgrade to an Intel Celeron 2.4GHz CPU,
    Socket 478, 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache.



    I'd like to get opinions from the readers of this very knowledgeable group as to the best motherboard for this CPU in terms
    of stability and/or performance before I make my decision because price may also be a factor.



    Computer parts, software, basically anything computer related cost a shit of a lot more in NZ than they do in the USA.



    Your help is greatly appreciated (c:



    Cheers

    Mike the Kiwi
     
    Mike the Kiwi, Dec 6, 2003
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  2. Also is there any significant difference between the Intel Celeron 2.4GHz CPU and Intel Celeron 2.6GHz CPU, and could they
    utilize the same mobo??

    Cheers
    Mike the Kiwi
     
    Mike the Kiwi, Dec 6, 2003
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  3. Mike the Kiwi

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    "Mike the Kiwi" <> wrote in
    news::

    > I currently run an AMD 1GHz Duron CPU on a DFI mobo but am seriously
    > considering an upgrade to an Intel Celeron 2.4GHz CPU, Socket 478,
    > 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache.


    Don't get a celeron, it's a pile of shit. A Celeron 2.4 ghz runs slower
    than an Athlon XP 1600+ in about 75% of the benchmarks it was run through.
     
    DeMoN LaG, Dec 6, 2003
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  4. Mike the Kiwi

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    "Mike the Kiwi" <> wrote in
    news::

    > Also is there any significant difference between the Intel Celeron
    > 2.4GHz CPU and Intel Celeron 2.6GHz CPU, and could they utilize the
    > same mobo??
    >


    They can use the same board. There is little difference, they both stink.
    If you are going to go low end, get an Athlon XP. If you are going for the
    intel line, get a P4. The celeron is a joke of a CPU.
     
    DeMoN LaG, Dec 6, 2003
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  5. Mike the Kiwi

    Wizard Guest

    -No-Archive:Yes

    Here are my personal ratings based on Performance, Quality, Tech
    Support, failure rate
    and compatibility. 10 = Best, 0 = DO NOT BUY (even if free):

    Abit ................. 10.0
    Asus .................. 9.5
    Gigabyte .............. 9.4
    Intel ................. 8.5
    Tyan .................. 8.0
    Epox .................. 6.8
    Soyo .................. 6.0
    SUPERMICRO ............ 5.1
    MSI ................... 5.0
    AOPEN ................. 4.0
    FIC ................... 3.1
    SHUTTLE ............... 2.9
    Gigabyte .............. 2.8 (4 Layer)
    IWILL ................. 2.0
    BIOSTAR ............... 2.0
    ECS ................... 1.8 (4 Layer)
    VPSD .................. No experience
    ALBATRON .............. No experience
    DFI ................... No experience

    Mike the Kiwi wrote:
    >
    > Hi all,
    >
    > I currently run an AMD 1GHz Duron CPU on a DFI mobo but am seriously considering an upgrade to an Intel Celeron 2.4GHz CPU,
    > Socket 478, 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache.
    >
    > I'd like to get opinions from the readers of this very knowledgeable group as to the best motherboard for this CPU in terms
    > of stability and/or performance before I make my decision because price may also be a factor.
    >
    > Computer parts, software, basically anything computer related cost a shit of a lot more in NZ than they do in the USA.
    >
    > Your help is greatly appreciated (c:
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Mike the Kiwi
     
    Wizard, Dec 6, 2003
    #5
  6. Mike the Kiwi

    mark mandel Guest

    "DeMoN LaG" <n@a> wrote in message
    news:Xns94497F23C682Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
    > "Mike the Kiwi" <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    > > I currently run an AMD 1GHz Duron CPU on a DFI mobo but am seriously
    > > considering an upgrade to an Intel Celeron 2.4GHz CPU, Socket 478,
    > > 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache.

    >
    > Don't get a celeron, it's a pile of shit. A Celeron 2.4 ghz runs slower
    > than an Athlon XP 1600+ in about 75% of the benchmarks it was run through.


    So what is your criteria for knocking the celeron, I'm just curious? I
    happen to have a Celeron III, 1 ghz. processor, 256 MB. RAM, everything
    works just fine, never any problems in the two years I've had. I'll admit I
    don't run games on it but for anything else I do, always has worked
    perfectly.
     
    mark mandel, Dec 7, 2003
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  7. Mike the Kiwi

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    "mark mandel" <> wrote in
    news:0IuAb.2909$:

    > So what is your criteria for knocking the celeron, I'm just curious?
    > I happen to have a Celeron III, 1 ghz. processor, 256 MB. RAM,
    > everything works just fine, never any problems in the two years I've
    > had. I'll admit I don't run games on it but for anything else I do,
    > always has worked perfectly.


    I don't have anything wrong with the Celeron III, based on the Pentium 3
    line. The Celeron 4's are crap. The only advantage the P4 has is the
    cache and higher FSB speeds. The Celeron 4 doesn't have the high FSB, and
    doesn't have much cache. So it ends up stinking.

    --
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    email: de_on-lag@co_cast.net (_ = m)
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    Need a technician in the south Jersey area?
    email/IM for rates/services
     
    DeMoN LaG, Dec 7, 2003
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  8. Mike the Kiwi

    Thor Guest

    "mark mandel" <> wrote in message
    news:0IuAb.2909$...
    >
    > "DeMoN LaG" <n@a> wrote in message
    > news:Xns94497F23C682Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
    > > "Mike the Kiwi" <> wrote in
    > > news::
    > >
    > > > I currently run an AMD 1GHz Duron CPU on a DFI mobo but am seriously
    > > > considering an upgrade to an Intel Celeron 2.4GHz CPU, Socket 478,
    > > > 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache.

    > >
    > > Don't get a celeron, it's a pile of shit. A Celeron 2.4 ghz runs slower
    > > than an Athlon XP 1600+ in about 75% of the benchmarks it was run

    through.
    >
    > So what is your criteria for knocking the celeron, I'm just curious? I
    > happen to have a Celeron III, 1 ghz. processor, 256 MB. RAM, everything
    > works just fine, never any problems in the two years I've had. I'll admit

    I
    > don't run games on it but for anything else I do, always has worked
    > perfectly.


    Having problems, and having poor performance versus the competition are two
    different issues entirely. No one is claiming the Celeron is unreliable. Far
    from it. It is very reliable, and runs business apps and non-demanding games
    just fine. But when compared to an Athlon which blows it away for a similar
    price, there's just no question which should be the choice when getting a
    new system, or substantially upgrading an existing one.
     
    Thor, Dec 7, 2003
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  9. Re: Opinions on Motherboard - This is what is available to me.

    Opinions on CPU's below as to the best performance-wise.

    AMD Duron - Socket A $ Inc GST
    AMD Duron 1.4GHz, Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 64k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $95.00
    AMD Duron 1.6GHz, Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 64k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $100.00
    AMD Athlon "XP" - Socket A $ Inc GST
    AMD Athlon XP2000+ (1.67GHz), Boxed Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 256k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $135.00
    AMD Athlon XP2200+ (1.80GHz), Boxed Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 256k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $150.00
    AMD Athlon XP2400+ (2.00GHz), Boxed Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 256k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $170.00
    AMD Athlon XP2500+ (1.83GHz, Barton), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan
    $185.00
    AMD Athlon XP2600+ (1.917GHz, Barton), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan
    $215.00
    AMD Athlon XP2700+ (2.167GHz), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 256k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $240.00
    AMD Athlon XP2800+ (2.083GHz, Barton), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan
    $300.00
    AMD Athlon XP3000+ (2.167GHz, Barton), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan
    $440.00
    AMD Athlon XP3200+ (Barton), Boxed Socket A, 200MHz FSB (400MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $665.00
    AMD Athlon64 - Socket 754 $ Inc GST
    AMD Athlon64 3200+ Socket754 CPU OEM (without Fan) $770.00
    AMD Athlon64 3200+ Socket754 CPU Boxed $895.00
    AMD Athlon64 FX51 & Opteron - Socket 940 $ Inc GST
    Call $0.00
    AMD Athlon "MP" - Dual Socket A $ Inc GST
    Call $0.00
    Intel Celeron - Socket 370 FC-PGA2 $ Inc GST
    Intel Celeron 1.3GHz, Socket 370 (FC-PGA2) with Heatsink/Fan $130.00
    Intel Celeron - Socket 478 $ Inc GST
    Intel Celeron 2.0GHz CPU, Socket 478, 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache with Heatsink/Fan $145.00
    Intel Celeron 2.2GHz CPU, Socket 478, 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache with Heatsink/Fan $150.00
    Intel Celeron 2.4GHz CPU, Socket 478, 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache with Heatsink/Fan $145.00
    Intel Celeron 2.6GHz CPU, Socket 478, 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache with Heatsink/Fan $195.00
    Intel Pentium 4 - Socket 478 $ Inc GST
    Intel Pentium 4 (Socket 478) 2.66GHz (533MHz FSB) CPU & Heatsink/Fan $350.00
    Intel Pentium 4 (Socket 478) 2.6GHz (800MHz FSB), Hyperthreading CPU & Heatsink/Fan $350.00
    Intel Pentium 4 (Socket 478) 2.8GHz (800MHz FSB), Hyperthreading CPU & Heatsink/Fan $430.00
    Intel Pentium 4 (Socket 478) 3.0GHz (800MHz FSB), Hyperthreading CPU & Heatsink/Fan $530.00
     
    Mike the Kiwi, Dec 7, 2003
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  10. Mike the Kiwi

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    Re: Opinions on Motherboard - This is what is available to me.

    "Mike the Kiwi" <> wrote in news:1070790153.114269
    @kyle.snap.net.nz:

    > Opinions on CPU's below as to the best performance-wise.
    >


    If you want the best performance:
    AMD Athlon64 FX51 & Opteron - Socket 940 $ Inc GST
    Call $0.00
    If you want the cheapest price:
    AMD Duron 1.4GHz, Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 64k-L2
    Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $95.00
    If you want a good mix of price to performance:
    AMD Athlon XP2500+ (1.83GHz, Barton), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB
    (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan
    $185.00

    However, I find these prices are all extremely high vs what a retailer like
    Newegg.com sells them for. I just recently bought a retail Athlon XP2500+
    retail package with heatsink/fan for under $90, however, I recognize you
    are in New Zealand, and I don't know if you are posting this in your
    currency or american dollars.

    --
    AIM: FrznFoodClerk
    email: de_on-lag@co_cast.net (_ = m)
    website: under construction
    Need a technician in the south Jersey area?
    email/IM for rates/services
     
    DeMoN LaG, Dec 8, 2003
    #10
  11. Re: Opinions on Motherboard - This is what is available to me.

    Sorry DeMoN, I should have said everything is posted in $NZ.

    By today's currency conversion rates, US$1 = NZ$1.56

    Cheers
    Mike the Kiwi




    "DeMoN LaG" <n@a> wrote in message news:Xns944B846F370BWobbly@216.168.3.30...
    > "Mike the Kiwi" <> wrote in news:1070790153.114269
    > @kyle.snap.net.nz:
    >
    > > Opinions on CPU's below as to the best performance-wise.
    > >

    >
    > If you want the best performance:
    > AMD Athlon64 FX51 & Opteron - Socket 940 $ Inc GST
    > Call $0.00
    > If you want the cheapest price:
    > AMD Duron 1.4GHz, Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 64k-L2
    > Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $95.00
    > If you want a good mix of price to performance:
    > AMD Athlon XP2500+ (1.83GHz, Barton), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB
    > (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan
    > $185.00
    >
    > However, I find these prices are all extremely high vs what a retailer like
    > Newegg.com sells them for. I just recently bought a retail Athlon XP2500+
    > retail package with heatsink/fan for under $90, however, I recognize you
    > are in New Zealand, and I don't know if you are posting this in your
    > currency or american dollars.
    >
    > --
    > AIM: FrznFoodClerk
    > email: de_on-lag@co_cast.net (_ = m)
    > website: under construction
    > Need a technician in the south Jersey area?
    > email/IM for rates/services
     
    Mike the Kiwi, Dec 8, 2003
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