Oodles of 64-bit goodness...

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Lawrence D¹Oliveiro, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. Looking at this 64-bit SuSE 9.3 Linux install on a 64-bit Shuttle box...

    /usr/sbin/httpd2-prefork (Apache) -- 64-bit executable
    /usr/sbin/mysqld -- 64-bit executable
    /bin/bash -- 64-bit executable
    /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/firefox-bin -- 32-bit executable
    /usr/bin/perl -- 64-bit executable
    /usr/bin/php -- 64-bit executable
    file /bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 90
    file /bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 0
    file /usr/bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 1576
    file /usr/bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 36
    file /sbin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 181
    file /sbin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 2
    file /usr/sbin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 243
    file /usr/sbin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 4
    file /opt/kde3/bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 479
    file /opt/kde3/bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 13
    file /opt/gnome/bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 255
    file /opt/gnome/bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    -- returns count of 3

    By my quick count, that means less than 3% of all the executables are
    32-bit. Is that a 64-bit system, or is that a 64-bit system...
    Lawrence D¹Oliveiro, Jul 19, 2005
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  2. Lawrence D¹Oliveiro

    Allistar Guest

    Lawrence D¹Oliveiro wrote:

    > Looking at this 64-bit SuSE 9.3 Linux install on a 64-bit Shuttle box...
    >
    > /usr/sbin/httpd2-prefork (Apache) -- 64-bit executable
    > /usr/sbin/mysqld -- 64-bit executable
    > /bin/bash -- 64-bit executable
    > /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/firefox-bin -- 32-bit executable
    > /usr/bin/perl -- 64-bit executable
    > /usr/bin/php -- 64-bit executable
    > file /bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 90
    > file /bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 0
    > file /usr/bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 1576
    > file /usr/bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 36
    > file /sbin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 181
    > file /sbin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 2
    > file /usr/sbin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 243
    > file /usr/sbin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 4
    > file /opt/kde3/bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 479
    > file /opt/kde3/bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 13
    > file /opt/gnome/bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 255
    > file /opt/gnome/bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    > -- returns count of 3
    >
    > By my quick count, that means less than 3% of all the executables are
    > 32-bit. Is that a 64-bit system, or is that a 64-bit system...


    I would love to have a high spec'd dual 64bit AMD. A tad pricey though. My
    Gento install would then be 100% 64bit (pother than the one or two apps not
    installed from source).

    Allistar.
    Allistar, Jul 19, 2005
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  3. In article <>, Allistar <> wrote:

    >Lawrence D¹Oliveiro wrote:
    >
    >> Looking at this 64-bit SuSE 9.3 Linux install on a 64-bit Shuttle box...
    >>
    >> /usr/sbin/httpd2-prefork (Apache) -- 64-bit executable
    >> /usr/sbin/mysqld -- 64-bit executable
    >> /bin/bash -- 64-bit executable
    >> /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/firefox-bin -- 32-bit executable
    >> /usr/bin/perl -- 64-bit executable
    >> /usr/bin/php -- 64-bit executable
    >> file /bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 90
    >> file /bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 0
    >> file /usr/bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 1576
    >> file /usr/bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 36
    >> file /sbin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 181
    >> file /sbin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 2
    >> file /usr/sbin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 243
    >> file /usr/sbin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 4
    >> file /opt/kde3/bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 479
    >> file /opt/kde3/bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 13
    >> file /opt/gnome/bin/* | fgrep 64-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 255
    >> file /opt/gnome/bin/* | fgrep 32-bit | wc -l
    >> -- returns count of 3
    >>
    >> By my quick count, that means less than 3% of all the executables are
    >> 32-bit. Is that a 64-bit system, or is that a 64-bit system...

    >
    >I would love to have a high spec'd dual 64bit AMD. A tad pricey though. My
    >Gento[o] install would then be 100% 64bit ([other] than the one or two apps not
    >installed from source).


    This machine is just a single-processor AMD--nothing too flash.

    But what gives me this warm feeling all over is that, if you want the
    purest 64-bit OS with top-to-bottom 64-bit application support, Linux
    has no competition today.
    Lawrence D¹Oliveiro, Jul 19, 2005
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  4. On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:16:18 +1200, someone purporting to be Lawrence
    D¹Oliveiro didst scrawl:

    > In article <>, Allistar <> wrote:
    >

    *SNIP*
    > But what gives me this warm feeling all over is that, if you want the
    > purest 64-bit OS with top-to-bottom 64-bit application support, Linux
    > has no competition today.


    I'm sure that Alpha and UltraSPARC users would be interested to hear that
    they've been using not-entirely-64 bit systems for a lot of years now.
    Anything that runs on an Alpha has to be 64-bit, and I believe it's the
    same for UltraSPARC.

    --
    Matthew Poole
    "Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."
    Matthew Poole, Jul 19, 2005
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  5. Lawrence D¹Oliveiro

    PAM. Guest

    "Lawrence D¹Oliveiro" <_zealand> wrote in message

    > By my quick count, that means less than 3% of all the executables are
    > 32-bit. Is that a 64-bit system, or is that a 64-bit system...


    Not quite. :)

    still 3% off :)

    PAM.
    PAM., Jul 19, 2005
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  6. Lawrence D¹Oliveiro

    AD. Guest

    On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:34:04 +1200, Matthew Poole wrote:

    > Anything that runs on an Alpha has to be 64-bit,


    NT wasn't.

    --
    Cheers
    Anton
    AD., Jul 20, 2005
    #6
  7. In article <>,
    Matthew Poole <> wrote:

    >Anything that runs on an Alpha has to be 64-bit...


    Still got your old Alpha docs? Look up "TASO" ...
    Lawrence D¹Oliveiro, Jul 20, 2005
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  8. Hi there,

    Lawrence D¹Oliveiro wrote:
    > Looking at this 64-bit SuSE 9.3 Linux install on a 64-bit Shuttle box...


    My Athlon64 3000+ with SuSE 9.2 Pro (updated KDE and quite a few apps
    that didn't get included with SuSE) yields...
    64-bit 32-bit
    /bin 90 0
    /usr/bin 1002 32
    /sbin 176 2
    /opt/kde3/bin 256 2
    /usr/sbin 201 2
    No gnome install...

    > By my quick count, that means less than 3% of all the executables are
    > 32-bit. Is that a 64-bit system, or is that a 64-bit system...


    1763 total executables, only 38 32-bit ones, giving a total
    of 2.16% of 32-bit-ness...

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    Chris Wilkinson, Jul 20, 2005
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  9. Hi there,

    Lawrence D¹Oliveiro wrote:
    > Looking at this 64-bit SuSE 9.3 Linux install on a 64-bit Shuttle box...


    64-bit is nice. I've rendered some large animations with POV-ray, and
    I remember watching KDE 3.3 thumbnailing a directory of over a thousand
    720x576 PNG's (100MB of pictures)...it was the first time Konqueror had
    opened that directory so the PNG's were not thumbnailed...it took around
    30 seconds or more...cue 12 months later, just 2 days ago when I did a
    1550 frame POV-ray animation on our Athlon64 3000+...Konqueror opened
    and thumbnailed the entire directory (1550 720x576 PNG's, 134 MB total)
    in what I estimate to be under 5 seconds... :)

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    Kind regards,

    Chris Wilkinson, Brisbane, Australia.
    Anyone wishing to email me directly can remove the obvious
    spamblocker, and replace it with t p g <dot> c o m <dot> a u

    Software patents are killing YOUR freedom, STOP THEM NOW!
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    Chris Wilkinson, Jul 20, 2005
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  10. D'Oh!

    Chris Wilkinson wrote:
    > Hi there,
    >
    > Lawrence D¹Oliveiro wrote:
    >
    >> Looking at this 64-bit SuSE 9.3 Linux install on a 64-bit Shuttle box...

    >
    >
    > 64-bit is nice. I've rendered some large animations with POV-ray, and
    > I remember watching KDE 3.3 thumbnailing a directory of over a thousand
    > 720x576 PNG's (100MB of pictures)...it was the first time Konqueror had
    > opened that directory so the PNG's were not thumbnailed...it took around


    Ooops, forgot to mention this thumbnailing 'test' was on an AthlonXP
    2500+ Barton core! :)

    > 30 seconds or more...cue 12 months later, just 2 days ago when I did a
    > 1550 frame POV-ray animation on our Athlon64 3000+...Konqueror opened
    > and thumbnailed the entire directory (1550 720x576 PNG's, 134 MB total)
    > in what I estimate to be under 5 seconds... :)


    --
    Kind regards,

    Chris Wilkinson, Brisbane, Australia.
    Anyone wishing to email me directly can remove the obvious
    spamblocker, and replace it with t p g <dot> c o m <dot> a u

    Software patents are killing YOUR freedom, STOP THEM NOW!
    http://swpat.ffii.org/ http://nosoftwarepatents.com/
    Chris Wilkinson, Jul 20, 2005
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  11. In article <42de0454$>,
    Chris Wilkinson <> wrote:

    >Lawrence D¹Oliveiro wrote:
    >> Looking at this 64-bit SuSE 9.3 Linux install on a 64-bit Shuttle box...

    >
    >> By my quick count, that means less than 3% of all the executables are
    >> 32-bit. Is that a 64-bit system, or is that a 64-bit system...

    >
    >1763 total executables, only 38 32-bit ones, giving a total
    >of 2.16% of 32-bit-ness...


    Or, taking a weighted average, that's about 63.36 bits on that SuSE
    system, 63.31 bits on yours.

    I wonder how other 64-bit OSes compare. :)
    Lawrence D¹Oliveiro, Jul 20, 2005
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