NT4-2k MCSE Upgrade

Discussion in 'MCSE' started by Guest, Apr 2, 2004.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I've just employed a guy with an NT4 MCSE, is it still
    possible to get this upgraded to0 2k with 1 or 2 exams,
    or does he now need to start over? I've been looking
    round the site for ages but can't seem to find the answer.

    Thanks
     
    Guest, Apr 2, 2004
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    Jose Saamuel Guest

    Start over!! where were you all this time??
    Jose

    MCSE on Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Certification Requirements
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/
    --
    MCSE on Microsoft Windows 2000 Certification Requirements
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/requirements.asp

    <> wrote in message
    news:179c801c418a6$33338a30$...
    > I've just employed a guy with an NT4 MCSE, is it still
    > possible to get this upgraded to0 2k with 1 or 2 exams,
    > or does he now need to start over? I've been looking
    > round the site for ages but can't seem to find the answer.
    >
    > Thanks
     
    Jose Saamuel, Apr 2, 2004
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    Rowdy Yates Guest

    <> wrote in news:179c801c418a6$33338a30
    $:

    > I've just employed a guy with an NT4 MCSE, is it still
    > possible to get this upgraded to0 2k with 1 or 2 exams,
    > or does he now need to start over? I've been looking
    > round the site for ages but can't seem to find the answer.
    >
    > Thanks

    ==
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/requirements.asp

    right at the bottom.

    1 Candidates who passed Windows NT 4.0 Exams 70-067, 70-068, and 70-073 had
    the option to take the comprehensive Exam 70-240, "Microsoft Windows 2000
    Accelerated Exam for MCPs Certified on Microsoft Windows NT 4.0." By
    passing this exam, candidates met the following MCSE exam requirements:
    Exam 70-210, 70-215, 70-216, and 70-217. Exam 70-240 is no longer
    available. See the Discontinuation of Exams notice for more details.
    ==
    also:

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/faq.asp

    right in the middle: MCSE on Microsoft Windows 2000 Track

    Q. Why don't the Windows NT 4.0 core exams count as electives in the MCSE
    on Windows 2000 credential?

    A. The purpose of core exams is to test skills required by a candidate who
    designs and implements the infrastructure for business solutions based on
    an operating system or architecturally significant platform. The purpose of
    elective exams is to test skills outside the typical system environment.
    Windows NT 4.0 core exams do not test skills outside the system environment
    ==
    also: and this part might suck.

    part of being a competent MCSE is keeping up to date on the current events,
    being interested in the designation and industry, and basic navigation
    skills with regards on the MS web site including the area where the MCSE
    designation is explained in detail.

    you just might have added a shmo to your payroll. ;-(.

    --
    Rowdy Yates
    -------------------------------
    Death to the Gypsy Kings!
    -------------------------------
    I am Against-TCPA
    http://www.againsttcpa.com
     
    Rowdy Yates, Apr 2, 2004
    #3
  4. There are still a heck of a lot of NT4 servers out there - and they still
    need maintaining before they are upgraded to W2K or W2K3.

    So a person with an NT4 MCSE is hardly a schmo - at the very least they have
    more experience than a w2k mcse bootcamper.


    "Rowdy Yates" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns94BF47729FEA7rowdyyates2lycoscom@207.46.248.16...
    > <> wrote in news:179c801c418a6$33338a30
    > $:
    >
    > > I've just employed a guy with an NT4 MCSE, is it still
    > > possible to get this upgraded to0 2k with 1 or 2 exams,
    > > or does he now need to start over? I've been looking
    > > round the site for ages but can't seem to find the answer.
    > >
    > > Thanks

    > ==
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/requirements.asp
    >
    > right at the bottom.
    >
    > 1 Candidates who passed Windows NT 4.0 Exams 70-067, 70-068, and 70-073

    had
    > the option to take the comprehensive Exam 70-240, "Microsoft Windows 2000
    > Accelerated Exam for MCPs Certified on Microsoft Windows NT 4.0." By
    > passing this exam, candidates met the following MCSE exam requirements:
    > Exam 70-210, 70-215, 70-216, and 70-217. Exam 70-240 is no longer
    > available. See the Discontinuation of Exams notice for more details.
    > ==
    > also:
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/faq.asp
    >
    > right in the middle: MCSE on Microsoft Windows 2000 Track
    >
    > Q. Why don't the Windows NT 4.0 core exams count as electives in the MCSE
    > on Windows 2000 credential?
    >
    > A. The purpose of core exams is to test skills required by a candidate

    who
    > designs and implements the infrastructure for business solutions based on
    > an operating system or architecturally significant platform. The purpose

    of
    > elective exams is to test skills outside the typical system environment.
    > Windows NT 4.0 core exams do not test skills outside the system

    environment
    > ==
    > also: and this part might suck.
    >
    > part of being a competent MCSE is keeping up to date on the current

    events,
    > being interested in the designation and industry, and basic navigation
    > skills with regards on the MS web site including the area where the MCSE
    > designation is explained in detail.
    >
    > you just might have added a shmo to your payroll. ;-(.
    >
    > --
    > Rowdy Yates
    > -------------------------------
    > Death to the Gypsy Kings!
    > -------------------------------
    > I am Against-TCPA
    > http://www.againsttcpa.com
     
    Brendon Rogers, Apr 2, 2004
    #4
  5. Guest

    Rowdy Yates Guest

    i am not accusing him of being a shmo 'cause he is still a MCSE NT.

    i am accusing him of being a shmo 'cause he didn't go to MS learning and
    find out what he has to do to get upgraded to MCSE 2K.

    what i didn't account for was the possibility that the employer is asking
    the question behind the guys back because he doesn't believe the guy that
    he has to take all the exams to upgrade to MCSE 2k. but if that is the
    case, then i retract my "shmo" label from the MCSE NT and assign it to
    the employer becuase he does not trust and have faith in the people
    he/she hires.

    ;-)

    "Brendon Rogers" <> wrote in
    news::

    > There are still a heck of a lot of NT4 servers out there - and they
    > still need maintaining before they are upgraded to W2K or W2K3.
    >
    > So a person with an NT4 MCSE is hardly a schmo - at the very least
    > they have more experience than a w2k mcse bootcamper.
    >
    >
    > "Rowdy Yates" <> wrote in message
    > news:Xns94BF47729FEA7rowdyyates2lycoscom@207.46.248.16...
    >> <> wrote in
    >> news:179c801c418a6$33338a30 $:
    >>
    >> > I've just employed a guy with an NT4 MCSE, is it still
    >> > possible to get this upgraded to0 2k with 1 or 2 exams,
    >> > or does he now need to start over? I've been looking
    >> > round the site for ages but can't seem to find the answer.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks

    >> ==
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/requirements.asp
    >>
    >> right at the bottom.
    >>
    >> 1 Candidates who passed Windows NT 4.0 Exams 70-067, 70-068, and
    >> 70-073

    > had
    >> the option to take the comprehensive Exam 70-240, "Microsoft Windows
    >> 2000 Accelerated Exam for MCPs Certified on Microsoft Windows NT
    >> 4.0." By passing this exam, candidates met the following MCSE exam
    >> requirements: Exam 70-210, 70-215, 70-216, and 70-217. Exam 70-240 is
    >> no longer available. See the Discontinuation of Exams notice for more
    >> details. ==
    >> also:
    >>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/faq.asp
    >>
    >> right in the middle: MCSE on Microsoft Windows 2000 Track
    >>
    >> Q. Why don't the Windows NT 4.0 core exams count as electives in the
    >> MCSE on Windows 2000 credential?
    >>
    >> A. The purpose of core exams is to test skills required by a
    >> candidate

    > who
    >> designs and implements the infrastructure for business solutions
    >> based on an operating system or architecturally significant platform.
    >> The purpose

    > of
    >> elective exams is to test skills outside the typical system
    >> environment. Windows NT 4.0 core exams do not test skills outside the
    >> system

    > environment
    >> ==
    >> also: and this part might suck.
    >>
    >> part of being a competent MCSE is keeping up to date on the current

    > events,
    >> being interested in the designation and industry, and basic
    >> navigation skills with regards on the MS web site including the area
    >> where the MCSE designation is explained in detail.
    >>
    >> you just might have added a shmo to your payroll. ;-(.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Rowdy Yates
    >> -------------------------------
    >> Death to the Gypsy Kings!
    >> -------------------------------
    >> I am Against-TCPA
    >> http://www.againsttcpa.com

    >
    >
    >




    --
    Rowdy Yates
    -------------------------------
    Death to the Gypsy Kings!
    -------------------------------
    I am Against-TCPA
    http://www.againsttcpa.com
     
    Rowdy Yates, Apr 2, 2004
    #5
  6. Guest

    Neil Guest

    "Brendon Rogers" <> wrote in
    news::

    > There are still a heck of a lot of NT4 servers out there - and they
    > still need maintaining before they are upgraded to W2K or W2K3.
    >
    > So a person with an NT4 MCSE is hardly a schmo - at the very least
    > they have more experience than a w2k mcse bootcamper.
    >

    <snip>

    many will be forced to switch to the newer stuff or face the problem of
    no support from Microsoft. As they state:

    4. Windows NT Server 4.0 incident and security related hotfix support is
    available through 31-Dec-2004. Non-security related hotfix support is
    available only through a custom support contract after 31-Dec-2003.

    More details at
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?id=fh;[ln];lifeprodw
    or if it wraps
    http://tinyurl.com/yss4b


    --
    Neil
    "you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
     
    Neil, Apr 2, 2004
    #6
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Thanks all, he seems to know his stuff on NT and thats
    what his last company were running too, so I guess they
    had no reason to shell out on upgrading him,,,,, I do
    however! Bugger!!!

    That was all taken into account in the salary though ;-)

    >-----Original Message-----
    >There are still a heck of a lot of NT4 servers out

    there - and they still
    >need maintaining before they are upgraded to W2K or W2K3.
    >
    >So a person with an NT4 MCSE is hardly a schmo - at the

    very least they have
    >more experience than a w2k mcse bootcamper.
    >
    >
    >"Rowdy Yates" <> wrote in

    message
    >news:Xns94BF47729FEA7rowdyyates2lycoscom@207.46.248.16...
    >> <> wrote in

    news:179c801c418a6$33338a30
    >> $:
    >>
    >> > I've just employed a guy with an NT4 MCSE, is it

    still
    >> > possible to get this upgraded to0 2k with 1 or 2

    exams,
    >> > or does he now need to start over? I've been looking
    >> > round the site for ages but can't seem to find the

    answer.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks

    >> ==
    >>

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/requirements.as
    p
    >>
    >> right at the bottom.
    >>
    >> 1 Candidates who passed Windows NT 4.0 Exams 70-067,

    70-068, and 70-073
    >had
    >> the option to take the comprehensive Exam 70-

    240, "Microsoft Windows 2000
    >> Accelerated Exam for MCPs Certified on Microsoft

    Windows NT 4.0." By
    >> passing this exam, candidates met the following MCSE

    exam requirements:
    >> Exam 70-210, 70-215, 70-216, and 70-217. Exam 70-240

    is no longer
    >> available. See the Discontinuation of Exams notice for

    more details.
    >> ==
    >> also:
    >>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/faq.asp
    >>
    >> right in the middle: MCSE on Microsoft Windows 2000

    Track
    >>
    >> Q. Why don't the Windows NT 4.0 core exams count as

    electives in the MCSE
    >> on Windows 2000 credential?
    >>
    >> A. The purpose of core exams is to test skills

    required by a candidate
    >who
    >> designs and implements the infrastructure for business

    solutions based on
    >> an operating system or architecturally significant

    platform. The purpose
    >of
    >> elective exams is to test skills outside the typical

    system environment.
    >> Windows NT 4.0 core exams do not test skills outside

    the system
    >environment
    >> ==
    >> also: and this part might suck.
    >>
    >> part of being a competent MCSE is keeping up to date

    on the current
    >events,
    >> being interested in the designation and industry, and

    basic navigation
    >> skills with regards on the MS web site including the

    area where the MCSE
    >> designation is explained in detail.
    >>
    >> you just might have added a shmo to your payroll. ;-(.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Rowdy Yates
    >> -------------------------------
    >> Death to the Gypsy Kings!
    >> -------------------------------
    >> I am Against-TCPA
    >> http://www.againsttcpa.com

    >
    >
    >.
    >
     
    Guest, Apr 2, 2004
    #7
  8. Guest

    Rowdy Yates Guest

    <> wrote in news:1769e01c418b8$852a0870
    $:

    >
    > That was all taken into account in the salary though ;-)
    >


    are you saying you paying him 1 rupee more than minimum wage? he struck GOLD!

    Rowdy Yates
    --
    "the man who tried and failed miserably"
     
    Rowdy Yates, Apr 2, 2004
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