no connection to invisible wireless accesspoint when visible accesspointsare present

Discussion in 'Wireless Networking' started by Wolfgang Meiners, Nov 25, 2008.

  1. Hi there,

    We have a number of notebooks (win xp, SP 2, maybe 3) at work. These
    Notebooks should connect to an accesspoint with SSID main. The SSID is
    hidden, there is no encryption or authentication. Maybe this is called
    obscurity without security.

    The Accesspoint main is marked as preferred in winxp. Usually there was
    no problem to connect to main in the past. But now, there a several
    other accesspoints near by with non hidden SSIDS. This accesspoints need
    authentication which i dont have. And of course, i want to connect to
    main. Nevertheless, winxp does connect to one of the other accesspoints
    but the connection fails. I get the message "no connectivity". Some
    times, after 10 to 15 minutes, i get suddenly connected to main, but i
    can not control this process.

    The problem is, i dont find any possibility to tell winxp, to connect to
    main, since this SSID is hidden. The list of available accesspoints only
    has visible SSIDs that i can not connect to and i dont want connect to.
    Another problem is, i dont have admin-rights on the notebooks.


    Is there any solution to this?

    Thank you for any hints
    Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Meiners, Nov 25, 2008
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  2. Re: no connection to invisible wireless accesspoint when visible accesspoints are present

    Hi
    The solution is to turn On the broadcast of the SSID in the Wireless source.
    ""Maybe this is called obscurity without security"". It is actually No
    security, and No obscurity.
    Any user with minimal knowledge can find your SSID in less than a minute.
    WPA is the minimal level of acceptable security, WPA2 even better.
    Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

    "Wolfgang Meiners" <> wrote in message
    news:492c38d5$0$30225$-online.net...
    > Hi there,
    >
    > We have a number of notebooks (win xp, SP 2, maybe 3) at work. These
    > Notebooks should connect to an accesspoint with SSID main. The SSID is
    > hidden, there is no encryption or authentication. Maybe this is called
    > obscurity without security.
    >
    > The Accesspoint main is marked as preferred in winxp. Usually there was
    > no problem to connect to main in the past. But now, there a several
    > other accesspoints near by with non hidden SSIDS. This accesspoints need
    > authentication which i dont have. And of course, i want to connect to
    > main. Nevertheless, winxp does connect to one of the other accesspoints
    > but the connection fails. I get the message "no connectivity". Some
    > times, after 10 to 15 minutes, i get suddenly connected to main, but i
    > can not control this process.
    >
    > The problem is, i dont find any possibility to tell winxp, to connect to
    > main, since this SSID is hidden. The list of available accesspoints only
    > has visible SSIDs that i can not connect to and i dont want connect to.
    > Another problem is, i dont have admin-rights on the notebooks.
    >
    >
    > Is there any solution to this?
    >
    > Thank you for any hints
    > Wolfgang
     
    Jack \(MVP-Networking\)., Nov 25, 2008
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  3. Re: no connection to invisible wireless accesspoint when visibleaccesspoints are present

    Jack (MVP-Networking). schrieb:
    > Hi
    > The solution is to turn On the broadcast of the SSID in the Wireless
    > source.


    Yes of course. I knew this solution before. But it seems, the SSID
    broadcast _will not_ be turned on. This is not my decision.

    Any other idea? I ask this, because i am usually working with OSX and
    there is no problem to connect to the hidden SSID with OSX. But i dont
    get it to work with winxp.

    Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Meiners, Nov 25, 2008
    #3
  4. Wolfgang Meiners

    Eurofeeds Guest

    Re: no connection to invisible wireless accesspoint when visible accesspoints are present

    I am using another PC through the same router fine.


    "Wolfgang Meiners" <> wrote in message
    news:492c45e2$0$30237$-online.net...
    > Jack (MVP-Networking). schrieb:
    >> Hi
    >> The solution is to turn On the broadcast of the SSID in the Wireless
    >> source.

    >
    > Yes of course. I knew this solution before. But it seems, the SSID
    > broadcast _will not_ be turned on. This is not my decision.
    >
    > Any other idea? I ask this, because i am usually working with OSX and
    > there is no problem to connect to the hidden SSID with OSX. But i dont
    > get it to work with winxp.
    >
    > Wolfgang
     
    Eurofeeds, Nov 25, 2008
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