Nikon discontinues last film scanner

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Bruce, Dec 22, 2010.

  1. Bruce

    Bruce Guest

    Nikon has finally discontinued the Coolscan 9000ED. This brings an
    end to the Coolscan range which formerly consisted of the Coolscan V
    and Coolscan 5000ED for APS and 35mm film scanning, plus the 9000ED
    for 35mm and medium format film.

    There will be no further manufacture of Nikon film scanners.
    Bruce, Dec 22, 2010
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    On 12/21/2010 6:09 PM, Bruce wrote:
    > Nikon has finally discontinued the Coolscan 9000ED. This brings an
    > end to the Coolscan range which formerly consisted of the Coolscan V
    > and Coolscan 5000ED for APS and 35mm film scanning, plus the 9000ED
    > for 35mm and medium format film.
    >
    > There will be no further manufacture of Nikon film scanners.


    Dang, that's a shame. Nikon arguably had the best consumer scanners for
    film, and there are still plenty of pros who use them. I know a Natty
    Geo guy who has assistants who do nothing but sit on a computer all day
    scanning his 20 year backlog of slides with a Coolscan.

    Sucks too, because this will drive the cost of getting used/refurb
    Coolscan units up.

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    Ryan McGinnis, Dec 22, 2010
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  3. In article <>,
    Bruce <> wrote:
    >Nikon has finally discontinued the Coolscan 9000ED.


    How are we supposed to scan our negatives, short of buying a used one
    on eBay?

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    Edward A. Falk, Dec 22, 2010
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  4. Bruce

    Mike Guest

    On 22/12/2010 03:29, Edward A. Falk wrote:
    > In article<>,
    > Bruce<> wrote:
    >> Nikon has finally discontinued the Coolscan 9000ED.

    >
    > How are we supposed to scan our negatives, short of buying a used one
    > on eBay?
    >


    Not really Nikon's problem! The only person I know who still uses film
    is my gramps who has had a darkroom in his bathroom since 1947. He uses
    a digital camera mainly but takes B&W pics from time to time with an old
    Zenith.

    Simply not enough demand from old fogeys and self styled artists to
    interest a major company. I dare say if demand is still sufficient
    someone will continue to make them for the consumer market and here in
    the UK some specialist photographic stores will scan negatives and
    prints for you.

    Mike
    Mike, Dec 22, 2010
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  5. On 12/21/2010 11:21 PM Mike spake thus:

    > On 22/12/2010 03:29, Edward A. Falk wrote:
    >
    >> In article<>,
    >> Bruce<> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Nikon has finally discontinued the Coolscan 9000ED.

    >>
    >> How are we supposed to scan our negatives, short of buying a used
    >> one on eBay?

    >
    > Not really Nikon's problem! The only person I know who still uses film
    > is my gramps who has had a darkroom in his bathroom since 1947. He uses
    > a digital camera mainly but takes B&W pics from time to time with an old
    > Zenith.
    >
    > Simply not enough demand from old fogeys and self styled artists to
    > interest a major company. I dare say if demand is still sufficient
    > someone will continue to make them for the consumer market and here in
    > the UK some specialist photographic stores will scan negatives and
    > prints for you.


    Well, what about those with pre-existing piles of slides needing to be
    scanned? You seem to think that these will somehow magically disappear
    once scanners are discontinued.


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    David Nebenzahl, Dec 22, 2010
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  6. Bruce

    Eric Stevens Guest

    On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:38:19 -0800, David Nebenzahl
    <> wrote:

    >On 12/21/2010 11:21 PM Mike spake thus:
    >
    >> On 22/12/2010 03:29, Edward A. Falk wrote:
    >>
    >>> In article<>,
    >>> Bruce<> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Nikon has finally discontinued the Coolscan 9000ED.
    >>>
    >>> How are we supposed to scan our negatives, short of buying a used
    >>> one on eBay?

    >>
    >> Not really Nikon's problem! The only person I know who still uses film
    >> is my gramps who has had a darkroom in his bathroom since 1947. He uses
    >> a digital camera mainly but takes B&W pics from time to time with an old
    >> Zenith.
    >>
    >> Simply not enough demand from old fogeys and self styled artists to
    >> interest a major company. I dare say if demand is still sufficient
    >> someone will continue to make them for the consumer market and here in
    >> the UK some specialist photographic stores will scan negatives and
    >> prints for you.

    >
    >Well, what about those with pre-existing piles of slides needing to be
    >scanned? You seem to think that these will somehow magically disappear
    >once scanners are discontinued.


    I can't complain about this;
    http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=B11B178011



    Eric Stevens
    Eric Stevens, Dec 22, 2010
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  7. Bruce

    Noons Guest

    Bruce wrote,on my timestamp of 22/12/2010 11:09 AM:
    > Nikon has finally discontinued the Coolscan 9000ED. This brings an
    > end to the Coolscan range which formerly consisted of the Coolscan V
    > and Coolscan 5000ED for APS and 35mm film scanning, plus the 9000ED
    > for 35mm and medium format film.
    >
    > There will be no further manufacture of Nikon film scanners.



    Welcome to last month's news...
    Noons, Dec 22, 2010
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  8. Bruce

    Noons Guest

    bugbear wrote,on my timestamp of 22/12/2010 8:34 PM:

    >>
    >> I guess my Coolscan V will now increase in value.

    >
    > Nope. If there were any demand out there, Nikon
    > would continue manufacture.
    >
    > BugBear


    psst: check the prices for 2nd hand Nikon scanners in ebay...
    Noons, Dec 22, 2010
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  9. Bruce

    Noons Guest

    Edward A. Falk wrote,on my timestamp of 22/12/2010 2:29 PM:

    > How are we supposed to scan our negatives, short of buying a used one
    > on eBay?
    >


    Epson V700 is a reasonable alternative, althoug nowhere in the same class.
    Noons, Dec 22, 2010
    #9
  10. Bruce

    Bruce Guest

    (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
    >In article <>,
    >Bruce <> wrote:
    >>Nikon has finally discontinued the Coolscan 9000ED.

    >
    >How are we supposed to scan our negatives, short of buying a used one
    >on eBay?



    Primefilm and especially Plustek make reasonably good quality 35mm
    film scanners. There are several cheap Chinese junk models sold under
    multiple brands.
    Bruce, Dec 22, 2010
    #10
  11. Alan Browne wrote:
    > I still use film, albeit in diminishing amounts. It's not the film use
    > that bothers me, but getting E-6 processed is more and more of a trek.


    Eventually it will cost you $25 to get a roll done. $5 for processing, and
    $20 for postage to India where it will be processed.

    Geoff.


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    Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Dec 22, 2010
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  12. David J. Littleboy wrote:
    > I've always thought it odd that Nikon would produce an MF scanner at all
    > (they've never made an MF camera), and found it odd that they continued
    > producing it long after they discontinued the 35mm scanners. Very strange.
    > Whatever.


    They never made cameras bigger than 35mm, but they made enlarging, process and
    general photography lenses for much bigger cameras.

    They also made the lenses for the original Bronica cameras (6x6).

    Geoff.
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    Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Dec 22, 2010
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    On 12/22/2010 2:43 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2010-12-22 11:21:47 -0800, George Kerby <> said:
    >
    >
    >
    >> Did they EVER update the software? Mainly for the Mac. I stopped scanning
    >> with the Nikon scanner when the software went obsolete.

    >
    > Check VueScan. It works just fine with Nikon scanners.
    > < http://www.hamrick.com/ >


    Does Silverfast work as well? That's a pretty decent piece of scanning
    software.


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    Ryan McGinnis, Dec 22, 2010
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  14. Edward A. Falk, Dec 22, 2010
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  15. On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:02:59 +0000, Edward A. Falk wrote:

    > In article <>, Eric Stevens
    > <> wrote:
    >>
    >>I can't complain about this;
    >>http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?

    BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=B11B178011
    >
    > Nice. How is it with B&W negatives?


    Very fine. That's what I use it for. Of course the infra-red dust
    detection magic doesn't work with silver negs, but the scanning itself
    works fine. The intensity depth (density?) of the scanner seems wider
    than the shots that I take/develop, so I haven't had any issues with
    having to do two passes to get the whole dynamic range of the shot. A
    friend with one of the 35mm Nikon scanners has complained about that
    problem. Also: being able to scan 24 frames at a time is a nice time
    saver.

    Cheers,

    --
    Andrew
    Andrew Reilly, Dec 22, 2010
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  16. Bruce

    tony cooper Guest

    On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:00:29 -0800, "Bill Graham" <>
    wrote:

    >Bruce wrote:
    >> (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
    >>> In article <>,
    >>> Bruce <> wrote:
    >>>> Nikon has finally discontinued the Coolscan 9000ED.
    >>>
    >>> How are we supposed to scan our negatives, short of buying a used one
    >>> on eBay?

    >>
    >>
    >> Primefilm and especially Plustek make reasonably good quality 35mm
    >> film scanners. There are several cheap Chinese junk models sold under
    >> multiple brands.

    >
    >As people finish scanning their slides and photos, good used ones will
    >continue to appear on eBay. K-M scanners are still showing up also, and they
    >have been out of business for several years.


    I have a Dimage Scan Elite dedicated slide scanner up on the closet
    shelf. I meant to sell it after I completed scanning my slides, but
    forgot about it.


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    tony cooper, Dec 22, 2010
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  17. Bruce

    dickr2 Guest

    Bill Graham wrote:
    <snip>
    > Yes. They make devices that can be attached to the lens of a digital
    > camera, and enable it to take photos of a slide and digitize it that way.

    Somewhat related is the "slide duplicator" I used 20 years ago. It attached
    to the camera with a T mount. I used it to get prints from slides.
    Load the camera with print film, insert a slide in the end of the duplicator,
    point the camera at a bright light source, and bingo ... it kind of worked,
    but only to duplicate slides on print or slide film.
    FWIW
    Dick
    dickr2, Dec 23, 2010
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  18. Bruce

    peter Guest

    On 12/22/2010 5:49 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
    > Mike wrote:
    >> On 22/12/2010 03:29, Edward A. Falk wrote:
    >>> In article<>,
    >>> Bruce<> wrote:
    >>>> Nikon has finally discontinued the Coolscan 9000ED.
    >>>
    >>> How are we supposed to scan our negatives, short of buying a used one
    >>> on eBay?
    >>>

    >>
    >> Not really Nikon's problem! The only person I know who still uses
    >> film is my gramps who has had a darkroom in his bathroom since 1947.
    >> He uses a digital camera mainly but takes B&W pics from time to time
    >> with an old Zenith.
    >>
    >> Simply not enough demand from old fogeys and self styled artists to
    >> interest a major company. I dare say if demand is still sufficient
    >> someone will continue to make them for the consumer market and here in
    >> the UK some specialist photographic stores will scan negatives and
    >> prints for you.
    >>
    >> Mike

    >
    > Yes. They make devices that can be attached to the lens of a digital
    > camera, and enable it to take photos of a slide and digitize it that way.



    for example:
    <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/464076-REG/General_Brand_SDD_Digital_Slide_Duplicator.html>

    I have not tried it, but the price seems right.
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    peter, Dec 23, 2010
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  19. Bruce

    Noons Guest

    On Dec 23, 12:36 pm, dickr2 <> wrote:
    > Bill Graham wrote:
    >
    > <snip>> Yes. They make devices that can be attached to the lens of a digital
    > > camera, and enable it to take photos of a slide and digitize it that way.

    >
    > Somewhat related is the "slide duplicator" I used 20 years ago. It attached
    > to the camera with a T mount. I used it to get prints from slides.
    > Load the camera with print film, insert a slide in the end of the duplicator,
    > point the camera at a bright light source, and bingo ... it kind of worked,
    > but only to duplicate slides on print or slide film.
    > FWIW
    > Dick



    Problem is the increased contrast and the "hardness" of the light
    sources.
    I'm starting to get acceptable results using a slide viewing box as
    the light source, with AN glass on top of the slide strip and then the
    whole lot in a copy stand with a dslr and a macro lens attached to
    it. The very soft light of the view box takes care of most of the
    scratches and dirt. The only problem is excessive contrast in some
    nutcase slides.

    With colour and b&w negatives I just can't get a dslr to take a
    sufficiently large dynamic range shot to cope with the reversal
    process in an editor. I suspect I'll have to use filters to get rid
    of the "orange" mask and then things might work out there, as well.

    But given both my coolscan V and 9000 don't have any signs of giving
    up on me (touch wood), I'm well set for the predictable future in
    terms of good scanners. Something else will come along soon that will
    replace these. The Pacific range is quite good for 35mm and the Epsons
    works fine with MF.
    Noons, Dec 23, 2010
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  20. Bruce

    Eric Stevens Guest

    On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:31:16 -0500, Alan Browne
    <> wrote:

    >On 10-12-22 3:56 , Eric Stevens wrote:
    >
    >> I can't complain about this;
    >> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=B11B178011

    >
    >Results are a little soft compared to the Nikon 9000ED (or 5000ED, or
    >Minolta 5400, etc.). I sent some film to a fellow who had one (for
    >comparison) and he sent back DVD's of the images (full res images of
    >6x6). The compared results were that the Epson acquitted itself well -
    >just not as sharply as the 9000ED despite the former's "higher
    >resolution". Not sure if that is due to optics or what.


    I've never made a direct comparison of the Epson V700 with another
    slide scanner but I have found that I can scan right down to the grain
    level on older slides. More recent slides seem to have a finer grain.
    I've never felt the need to go below 3200 dpi.

    It also handles negative film very well and produces colour positives.

    It came with built in ICE and also had another version of ICE bundled
    with it.



    Eric Stevens
    Eric Stevens, Dec 23, 2010
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