next step

Discussion in 'MCDST' started by robbarratt2002, Feb 19, 2007.

  1. hi everyone,

    Can anyone advise me on the next logical step after MCDST ? I've been
    looking at the 70-290/291 and 292 but am having difficulty deciding. Any
    advice would be great. Thanks

    rob
     
    robbarratt2002, Feb 19, 2007
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  2. robbarratt2002

    John R Guest

    I went to MCSA next, which was 70-270, 70-290, and 70-291. (MCDST fulfills
    the elective requirement for MCSA). I think it is rather funny that you can
    get MCSA on 2003 by taking three tests on XP and only two on Server 2003.

    Since 70-270 is also concerned with XP, and it serves as the client
    component of MCSA and MCSE, it was the next test that I took. 70-290 and
    70-291 of course, are mainly concerned with server 2003.

    You mentioned 70-292, that is the upgrade test from MCSA 2000 to MCSA 2003.
    You would not take 290, 291 and 292. However, you might consider going
    after MCSA on 2000 which would be 70-270 or 70-210, and then 70-215, and
    70-218. You could then use 70-292 to step your MCSA up to 2003. The
    advantage of doing so is that the MCSA on 2000 fulfills the elective
    requirement for MCSE on 2003.

    Good luck in whatever you choose.

    John

    "robbarratt2002" <> wrote in message
    news:%23VEz$...
    > hi everyone,
    >
    > Can anyone advise me on the next logical step after MCDST ? I've been
    > looking at the 70-290/291 and 292 but am having difficulty deciding. Any
    > advice would be great. Thanks
    >
    > rob
    >
     
    John R, Feb 19, 2007
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  3. robbarratt2002

    Montreal MCT Guest

    Hey Rob,

    John is correct. If you were to take 70-270, and then 70-290 and 70-291
    then you will be an MCSA, which is the next logical step into networking.

    If you want to stick to desktop support I would suggest you wait until the
    exam 70-621 is released in late May. It will be the upgrade path to
    Microsoft Certified IT Professional: Enterprise Support.

    I do not think that you are well served by going after your MCSA on Windows
    2000.

    Good luck!

    M

    --
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    MCT, MCSA, MCDST, MCTS, MCP
    President Emeritus, Montreal IT Professionals Community (www.mitpro.ca)
    Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - Customer Experience
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    "robbarratt2002" <> wrote in message
    news:%23VEz$...
    > hi everyone,
    >
    > Can anyone advise me on the next logical step after MCDST ? I've been
    > looking at the 70-290/291 and 292 but am having difficulty deciding. Any
    > advice would be great. Thanks
    >
    > rob
    >
     
    Montreal MCT, Feb 19, 2007
    #3
  4. It totally depends on what path you want to pursue in your I.T. journey.
    Everyone thinks that the "next logical step" after your MCDST is to
    achieve your MCSA. Well the MCSA deals with server administration. Is
    that what you want to do? There are plenty of people whose job is
    dealing with 51% or more with desktop diagnostics and troubleshooting. I
    fall into this category. I rarely utilize my MCSA studies in my
    profession. Do I consider it a waste? Of course not, but nevertheless it
    is not utilized to its fullest.

    So to reiterate and answer your question, "What is the next logical
    step?" I ask you, what is your long term plan with your I.T. profession?

    --
    Michael D. Alligood
    MCSA, MCDST, MCP, A+,
    Network+, i-Net+, CIW Assoc.,
    CIW Certified Instructor

    http://yetanotherblog.typepad.com/theclassroom



    "robbarratt2002" <> wrote in message
    news:#VEz$:

    > hi everyone,
    >
    > Can anyone advise me on the next logical step after MCDST ? I've been
    > looking at the 70-290/291 and 292 but am having difficulty deciding. Any
    > advice would be great. Thanks
    >
    > rob
     
    Michael D. Alligood, Feb 20, 2007
    #4
  5. My scenario is a perfect example of what you all are talking about. Our
    company has a Microsoft Windows 2000 Server with Active Directory and it is
    there and we use it for resetting passwords etc... and forcing passwords to
    meet complexity requirements, etc... It's also used for it's DHCP and DNS
    server functionality. But really, it's not being utilized like it should
    IMHO. I don't know enough about it YET and neither does anyone else. And
    nobody will, unless I learn about it. It's the perfect opportunity for me to
    spread my wings as I'm learning about it and going for my MCSA for Windows
    2000 certification. Any knowledge I learn will directly benefit my company.
    An MCSA for Win 2003 would NOT benefit the company as much. If we do get a
    Windows 2003 server, I'll look into the upgrade test, but until then

    do what will benefit your company you work for the most.........

    just my 2 cents


    "Michael D. Alligood" <> wrote in message
    news:%23%...
    > It totally depends on what path you want to pursue in your I.T. journey.
    > Everyone thinks that the "next logical step" after your MCDST is to
    > achieve your MCSA. Well the MCSA deals with server administration. Is that
    > what you want to do? There are plenty of people whose job is dealing with
    > 51% or more with desktop diagnostics and troubleshooting. I fall into this
    > category. I rarely utilize my MCSA studies in my profession. Do I consider
    > it a waste? Of course not, but nevertheless it is not utilized to its
    > fullest.
    >
    > So to reiterate and answer your question, "What is the next logical step?"
    > I ask you, what is your long term plan with your I.T. profession?
    > --
    > Michael D. Alligood
    > MCSA, MCDST, MCP, A+,
    > Network+, i-Net+, CIW Assoc.,
    > CIW Certified Instructor
    >
    > http://yetanotherblog.typepad.com/theclassroom
    >
    >
    >
    > "robbarratt2002" <> wrote in message
    > news:#VEz$:
    >
    >> hi everyone,
    >>
    >> Can anyone advise me on the next logical step after MCDST ? I've been
    >> looking at the 70-290/291 and 292 but am having difficulty deciding. Any
    >> advice would be great. Thanks
    >>
    >> rob

    >
     
    Keith Chilton, Feb 20, 2007
    #5
  6. robbarratt2002

    John R Guest

    "Keith Chilton" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > My scenario is a perfect example of what you all are talking about. Our
    > company has a Microsoft Windows 2000 Server with Active Directory and it
    > is there and we use it for resetting passwords etc... and forcing
    > passwords to meet complexity requirements, etc... It's also used for it's
    > DHCP and DNS server functionality. But really, it's not being utilized
    > like it should IMHO. I don't know enough about it YET and neither does
    > anyone else. And nobody will, unless I learn about it. It's the perfect
    > opportunity for me to spread my wings as I'm learning about it and going
    > for my MCSA for Windows 2000 certification. Any knowledge I learn will
    > directly benefit my company. An MCSA for Win 2003 would NOT benefit the
    > company as much. If we do get a Windows 2003 server, I'll look into the
    > upgrade test, but until then
    >
    > do what will benefit your company you work for the most.........
    >
    > just my 2 cents
    >
    >


    Keith, going after MCSA 2000 is a worthy goal, both for you and your
    company.

    Once you complete that, if I were you, I would consider MCSA/MCSE 2003 even
    more valuable. After all, if you learn the skills, who will your company
    look to for help and leadership in moving to 2003? That would put you, for
    lack of better terminology, in the catbird seat. Not only would you be more
    valuable to your company, but it would help you with both leadership and
    self improvement. IMHO, that is what certification is all about.

    As for Montreal's comments, 2000 skills may in fact not be relavant in every
    shop. But I'll tell you this, they will be valuable in lots of shops.
    There will be lots of places that may be on 2003, or even longhorn or 2007
    or whatever they end up calling it, but they will still have 2000 servers
    running all sorts of apps, and they will need people who can administer
    those servers as well as the 2003 domain controllers. Shoot, our company is
    on a 2003 AD domain, and we still have NT servers running apps that haven't
    yet made the move to 2000 or 2003.

    At this point, I have completed MCDST, MCSA 2003 (270, 290, 291), 293, 294,
    and 297. That is everything for MCSE 2003 except the elective. I made the
    decision to go back and do 215 and 218 to get MCSA 2000 which will take care
    of the elective for MCSE 2003. My shop and many more like it will have 2000
    around for a long, long time. Fortunately, I am in a position where both
    MCDST and MCSA/MCSE skills are all in demand (God bless centralized
    administration shops).

    Good luck to you.

    John
     
    John R, Feb 20, 2007
    #6
  7. John

    Thanks for the support. It's nice to hear other people's stories. Right now
    the MCSA 2000 is my only goal I have. But along the way in my corporate
    career I'm sure other goals will pop into my mind to make myself more useful
    to the company. Like you mentioned 2003 if we get a MCSA 2003 server. Maybe
    certifications in MS Word and Excel. I'm all about making my co-workers more
    productive and smarter even if they dont feel the need. I FEEL THE NEED ...
    haha Anyways, I wish you luck in your endeavours. You seem to have
    accomplished quite a few of them!

    Keith


    "John R" <> wrote in message
    news:OEAvy%...
    >
    > "Keith Chilton" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> My scenario is a perfect example of what you all are talking about. Our
    >> company has a Microsoft Windows 2000 Server with Active Directory and it
    >> is there and we use it for resetting passwords etc... and forcing
    >> passwords to meet complexity requirements, etc... It's also used for it's
    >> DHCP and DNS server functionality. But really, it's not being utilized
    >> like it should IMHO. I don't know enough about it YET and neither does
    >> anyone else. And nobody will, unless I learn about it. It's the perfect
    >> opportunity for me to spread my wings as I'm learning about it and going
    >> for my MCSA for Windows 2000 certification. Any knowledge I learn will
    >> directly benefit my company. An MCSA for Win 2003 would NOT benefit the
    >> company as much. If we do get a Windows 2003 server, I'll look into the
    >> upgrade test, but until then
    >>
    >> do what will benefit your company you work for the most.........
    >>
    >> just my 2 cents
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Keith, going after MCSA 2000 is a worthy goal, both for you and your
    > company.
    >
    > Once you complete that, if I were you, I would consider MCSA/MCSE 2003
    > even more valuable. After all, if you learn the skills, who will your
    > company look to for help and leadership in moving to 2003? That would put
    > you, for lack of better terminology, in the catbird seat. Not only would
    > you be more valuable to your company, but it would help you with both
    > leadership and self improvement. IMHO, that is what certification is all
    > about.
    >
    > As for Montreal's comments, 2000 skills may in fact not be relavant in
    > every shop. But I'll tell you this, they will be valuable in lots of
    > shops. There will be lots of places that may be on 2003, or even longhorn
    > or 2007 or whatever they end up calling it, but they will still have 2000
    > servers running all sorts of apps, and they will need people who can
    > administer those servers as well as the 2003 domain controllers. Shoot,
    > our company is on a 2003 AD domain, and we still have NT servers running
    > apps that haven't yet made the move to 2000 or 2003.
    >
    > At this point, I have completed MCDST, MCSA 2003 (270, 290, 291), 293,
    > 294, and 297. That is everything for MCSE 2003 except the elective. I
    > made the decision to go back and do 215 and 218 to get MCSA 2000 which
    > will take care of the elective for MCSE 2003. My shop and many more like
    > it will have 2000 around for a long, long time. Fortunately, I am in a
    > position where both MCDST and MCSA/MCSE skills are all in demand (God
    > bless centralized administration shops).
    >
    > Good luck to you.
    >
    > John
    >
     
    Keith Chilton, Feb 20, 2007
    #7
  8. My company is moving over from one system to another system right now. We
    just got 2 Windows 2003 servers to setup. I guess I'll be getting familiar
    with them even though i wanted to just focus on 2000 right now for that MCSA
    2000 ... maybe eventually i'll try the upgrade exam to 2003...I've heard
    it's extremely difficult though.
     
    Keith Chilton, Mar 3, 2007
    #8
  9. robbarratt2002

    John R Guest

    "Keith Chilton" <> wrote in message
    news:O%...
    > My company is moving over from one system to another system right now. We
    > just got 2 Windows 2003 servers to setup. I guess I'll be getting familiar
    > with them even though i wanted to just focus on 2000 right now for that
    > MCSA 2000 ... maybe eventually i'll try the upgrade exam to 2003...I've
    > heard it's extremely difficult though.
    >

    The upgrade exams I've heard are a little more difficult, basically because
    there is so much more information to cover in one test. Although it might
    sound silly, you don't have to take the upgrade test. You can go ahead and
    do 290 and 291 instead. At least you would only be dealing with half of the
    information for each test. A little more expensive certainly, but for some
    (like me), maybe more preferable.

    Good luck to you.

    John
     
    John R, Mar 10, 2007
    #9
  10. thats true... good advice... thanks john

    "John R" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Keith Chilton" <> wrote in message
    > news:O%...
    >> My company is moving over from one system to another system right now. We
    >> just got 2 Windows 2003 servers to setup. I guess I'll be getting
    >> familiar with them even though i wanted to just focus on 2000 right now
    >> for that MCSA 2000 ... maybe eventually i'll try the upgrade exam to
    >> 2003...I've heard it's extremely difficult though.
    >>

    > The upgrade exams I've heard are a little more difficult, basically
    > because there is so much more information to cover in one test. Although
    > it might sound silly, you don't have to take the upgrade test. You can go
    > ahead and do 290 and 291 instead. At least you would only be dealing with
    > half of the information for each test. A little more expensive certainly,
    > but for some (like me), maybe more preferable.
    >
    > Good luck to you.
    >
    > John
    >
     
    Keith Chilton, Mar 10, 2007
    #10
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