New Zealand anti-spam bill

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Jerry, Dec 15, 2005.

  1. Jerry

    Jerry Guest

    http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3512960a11,00.html

    The problem is that most spam comes from someplace like China, and
    originates in the US. I don't get much home-grown spam.

    I see Rodney Hide says that the best way to fight spam is to get
    anti-spam software. The problem is that the spam still clogs the
    internet, and at the end of the day the reciever has to pay for it.
    Jerry, Dec 15, 2005
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  2. Jerry

    thing2 Guest

    Jerry wrote:
    > http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3512960a11,00.html
    >
    > The problem is that most spam comes from someplace like China, and
    > originates in the US. I don't get much home-grown spam.
    >
    > I see Rodney Hide says that the best way to fight spam is to get
    > anti-spam software. The problem is that the spam still clogs the
    > internet, and at the end of the day the reciever has to pay for it.


    Shows his lack of understanding....but then I would expect that, 1) its
    Labour Govn, so that is bad no matter what the bill is, 2) buy anti-spam
    software, so we spend to benefit businesses....his voter base....3) He
    is not technical.

    This Bill means NZ will not be a heaven for spammers, so as countries
    sign up / match it they are left with no where to go. We also do have
    some NZ spammers and the bill will discourage more....I cannot see
    anything negative about it...

    It also means so called "legit" businesses who try to do "targetted"
    email marketing can be slapped.....

    Yes, clogs it does, it is costing us a fortune.

    Currently our 90k+ front end is being overloaded every 6 hours plus ad
    hoc spam floods...nothing I can do with spending another 40~50kk...all
    for spam, otherwise I could run legit smtp traffic off a decent 3k
    laptop...(and not multiple Dell 6850s at 25k each).....

    Our 100 meg limit mail boxes for the 5000 staff are being filled with
    spam, so we could get more disks....hello 50k for another SAN tray with
    disks....maybe a second NAS, bigger and faster LTO drives to cope...

    Our servers are defering regular now so urgent emails are delayed, staff
    cannot work to deadlines....

    Then there is the time our staff waste deleting it....

    So we have p*ssed staff, p*ssed service desk, p*ssed clients, p*ssed me.....

    Personally at the end of the day after 6 weeks of this I'd use a rope if
    I cought a spammer.....

    regards

    Thing
    thing2, Dec 15, 2005
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  3. Jerry

    Who Am I Guest

    In article <>,
    thing2 <> wrote:

    > Jerry wrote:
    > > http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3512960a11,00.html
    > >
    > > The problem is that most spam comes from someplace like China, and
    > > originates in the US. I don't get much home-grown spam.
    > >
    > > I see Rodney Hide says that the best way to fight spam is to get
    > > anti-spam software. The problem is that the spam still clogs the
    > > internet, and at the end of the day the reciever has to pay for it.

    >
    > Shows his lack of understanding....but then I would expect that, 1) its
    > Labour Govn, so that is bad no matter what the bill is, 2) buy anti-spam
    > software, so we spend to benefit businesses....his voter base....3) He
    > is not technical.
    >
    > This Bill means NZ will not be a heaven for spammers, so as countries
    > sign up / match it they are left with no where to go. We also do have
    > some NZ spammers and the bill will discourage more....I cannot see
    > anything negative about it...
    >
    > It also means so called "legit" businesses who try to do "targetted"
    > email marketing can be slapped.....
    >
    > Yes, clogs it does, it is costing us a fortune.
    >
    > Currently our 90k+ front end is being overloaded every 6 hours plus ad
    > hoc spam floods...nothing I can do with spending another 40~50kk...all
    > for spam, otherwise I could run legit smtp traffic off a decent 3k
    > laptop...(and not multiple Dell 6850s at 25k each).....
    >
    > Our 100 meg limit mail boxes for the 5000 staff are being filled with
    > spam, so we could get more disks....hello 50k for another SAN tray with
    > disks....maybe a second NAS, bigger and faster LTO drives to cope...
    >
    > Our servers are defering regular now so urgent emails are delayed, staff
    > cannot work to deadlines....
    >
    > Then there is the time our staff waste deleting it....
    >
    > So we have p*ssed staff, p*ssed service desk, p*ssed clients, p*ssed me.....
    >
    > Personally at the end of the day after 6 weeks of this I'd use a rope if
    > I cought a spammer.....
    >
    > regards
    >
    > Thing


    Most of my spam comes from Brazil, and fully half of that spam contains
    URLs to a virus or trojan. I am so pissed off with this that I cancelled
    a holiday to Brazil and told the Brazillian embassy here in NZ what I
    was doing and why. I also pointed out that I have stopped buying
    products made in brazil as they are already costing me enough time, agro
    and money.

    It is only when spam starts hurting the economy of a country that things
    will change. Do you honestly believe that China would harbour spammers
    if their economy took a nose dive because of it ?, like hell they would
    and they would be there with the rope much faster than you would be.
    Who Am I, Dec 20, 2005
    #3
  4. Jerry

    Robert Cooze Guest

    Who Am I wrote:
    > In article <>,
    > thing2 <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Jerry wrote:
    >>
    >>>http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3512960a11,00.html
    >>>
    >>>The problem is that most spam comes from someplace like China, and
    >>>originates in the US. I don't get much home-grown spam.
    >>>
    >>>I see Rodney Hide says that the best way to fight spam is to get
    >>>anti-spam software. The problem is that the spam still clogs the
    >>>internet, and at the end of the day the reciever has to pay for it.

    >>
    >>Shows his lack of understanding....but then I would expect that, 1) its
    >>Labour Govn, so that is bad no matter what the bill is, 2) buy anti-spam
    >>software, so we spend to benefit businesses....his voter base....3) He
    >>is not technical.
    >>
    >>This Bill means NZ will not be a heaven for spammers, so as countries
    >>sign up / match it they are left with no where to go. We also do have
    >>some NZ spammers and the bill will discourage more....I cannot see
    >>anything negative about it...
    >>
    >>It also means so called "legit" businesses who try to do "targetted"
    >>email marketing can be slapped.....
    >>
    >>Yes, clogs it does, it is costing us a fortune.
    >>
    >>Currently our 90k+ front end is being overloaded every 6 hours plus ad
    >>hoc spam floods...nothing I can do with spending another 40~50kk...all
    >>for spam, otherwise I could run legit smtp traffic off a decent 3k
    >>laptop...(and not multiple Dell 6850s at 25k each).....
    >>
    >>Our 100 meg limit mail boxes for the 5000 staff are being filled with
    >>spam, so we could get more disks....hello 50k for another SAN tray with
    >>disks....maybe a second NAS, bigger and faster LTO drives to cope...
    >>
    >>Our servers are defering regular now so urgent emails are delayed, staff
    >>cannot work to deadlines....
    >>
    >>Then there is the time our staff waste deleting it....
    >>
    >>So we have p*ssed staff, p*ssed service desk, p*ssed clients, p*ssed me.....
    >>
    >>Personally at the end of the day after 6 weeks of this I'd use a rope if
    >>I cought a spammer.....
    >>
    >>regards
    >>
    >>Thing

    >
    >
    > Most of my spam comes from Brazil, and fully half of that spam contains
    > URLs to a virus or trojan. I am so pissed off with this that I cancelled
    > a holiday to Brazil and told the Brazillian embassy here in NZ what I
    > was doing and why. I also pointed out that I have stopped buying
    > products made in brazil as they are already costing me enough time, agro
    > and money.
    >
    > It is only when spam starts hurting the economy of a country that things
    > will change. Do you honestly believe that China would harbour spammers
    > if their economy took a nose dive because of it ?, like hell they would
    > and they would be there with the rope much faster than you would be.

    No in China It is the bullet in the back on the head. Then they bill the
    Family.

    --
    http://cooze.co.nz home of the RecyclerMan aka Robert Cooze

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    Robert Cooze, Dec 20, 2005
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