New software for Cisco Pix?

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  1. BG

    BG Guest

    I was just wondering if anybody has heard about a release date for a new
    version of the Pix and PDM software?



    BG
     
    BG, Jan 24, 2005
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    BradReeseCom Guest

    Hi BG,

    The new Cisco PIX 7.0 Software is coming soon.

    The new OS supports Hub and spoke VPN without having to full mesh them
    when a PIX is used to terminate VPN tunnels at the head end.

    PIX 501, 506, 506E support will come with a follow-on release.

    Sincerely,

    Brad Reese
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    BradReeseCom, Jan 24, 2005
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  3. Brad - Any information related to the PIX 7.0 Beta is NON-disclosure.
    Please do not post it to public newsgroups.
     
    The Green Manalishi, Jan 24, 2005
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  4. In article <>,
    The Green Manalishi <> wrote:
    :Brad - Any information related to the PIX 7.0 Beta is NON-disclosure.
    :please do not post it to public newsgroups.

    There have been previous "leaks". As best I can recall, Brad isn't
    posting anything that hasn't already been reported.
    --
    Suppose there was a test you could take that would report whether
    you had Free Will or were Pre-Destined. Would you take the test?
     
    Walter Roberson, Jan 24, 2005
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  5. That's quite irrevent, you should know that. Green is right. If you have
    access to that info, keep it to yourself. If you don't, you don't know if
    it's accurate in the first place.


    "Walter Roberson" <-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote in message
    news:ct3ukm$9ju$...
    > In article <>,
    > The Green Manalishi <> wrote:
    > :Brad - Any information related to the PIX 7.0 Beta is NON-disclosure.
    > :please do not post it to public newsgroups.
    >
    > There have been previous "leaks". As best I can recall, Brad isn't
    > posting anything that hasn't already been reported.
    > --
    > Suppose there was a test you could take that would report whether
    > you had Free Will or were Pre-Destined. Would you take the test?
     
    John Forsythe, Jan 25, 2005
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  6. BG

    Hansang Bae Guest

    Walter Roberson wrote:
    > There have been previous "leaks". As best I can recall, Brad isn't
    > posting anything that hasn't already been reported.


    But NDA is NDA. There have been countless times that I wanted to post
    something (new products, new releases, new features) but couldn't
    because of the NDA.

    --

    hsb


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    Hansang Bae, Jan 25, 2005
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  7. In article <NkmJd.74540$>,
    Hansang Bae <> wrote:
    :Walter Roberson wrote:
    :> There have been previous "leaks". As best I can recall, Brad isn't
    :> posting anything that hasn't already been reported.

    :But NDA is NDA. There have been countless times that I wanted to post
    :something (new products, new releases, new features) but couldn't
    :because of the NDA.

    I wouldn't know if Brad has signed a PIX NDA or is simply reposting
    something he has read somewhere else.

    NDAs are a form of trade-secret law. Legal opinion in the US is
    divided, with one camp saying that once the secret is out of the
    bag, no-one, whether party to the NDA or not, has an obligation
    to continue to protect the secret. The other camp [which is
    backed by at least one notable court case] says that if one
    encounters trade-secret information, then one is only protected
    until the time that one discovers or realizes that the information
    is intended to be secret, and that once one knows that, one
    becomes muzzled, just as if one had signed the NDA originally.
    [To which the other camp says "Bosh! You can't be bound by a
    contract you never signed nor indicated implicit consent to!"]

    Fortunately, I haven't signed any NDAs at all with Cisco, and
    the disagreements about trade secrets that exist in US law have
    no relevance to me here.
    --
    I was very young in those days, but I was also rather dim.
    -- Christopher Priest
     
    Walter Roberson, Jan 25, 2005
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  8. In article <>,
    John Forsythe <> wrote:
    |"Walter Roberson" <-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote in message
    |news:ct3ukm$9ju$...
    |> There have been previous "leaks". As best I can recall, Brad isn't
    |> posting anything that hasn't already been reported.

    |That's quite irrevent, you should know that.

    In some jurisdictions, publication of a trade secret completely
    voids all NDA's of the material actually made public [but not
    of any details not made public.] Even in the USA, there is a large
    faction of lawyers that follow that precept. I don't happen to be
    in the USA or subject to US law, so I *don't* know previous
    publication to be "quite irrevent [sic]".


    |Green is right. If you have
    |access to that info, keep it to yourself. If you don't, you don't know if
    |it's accurate in the first place.

    Did I claim Brad's information to be accurate? Re-read what I wrote:
    I made no comment on his -accuracy-, only on whether the material
    had previously been published.

    Are -you- saying that Brad's posting was accurate? If so, then
    thanks for confirming Brad's rumourmongering, and thanks for
    implicitly offering to confirm other potential rumours by
    getting riled up if someone posts something close to the truth. ;-)

    I am not under any NDA's, by the way, so I am free to repeat
    hearsay.
    --
    Entropy is the logarithm of probability -- Boltzmann
     
    Walter Roberson, Jan 25, 2005
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  9. Fro Christ's sake Walter, I simply stated a fact that information
    regarding PIX 7.0 beta is under an NDA. Maybe he didn't know, maybe he
    is just repeating something he read somewhere. Who cares! I just
    asked him to please not post information regarding the beta. Now he
    knows, and so does everyone else who read the post.
    Also, you're no legal expert, especially on US law. So please bag it.
     
    The Green Manalishi, Jan 25, 2005
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  10. In article <>,
    The Green Manalishi <> wrote:
    :Fro Christ's sake Walter, I simply stated a fact that information
    :regarding PIX 7.0 beta is under an NDA.

    -Verified- information, perhaps, but over the last year there have
    been some messages by various people purporting to give information
    about features of PIX 7.0. Any such information, once made
    public, is fair game for repetition and comment, unless
    local law places restrictions on such dissemination.

    :Maybe he didn't know, maybe he
    :is just repeating something he read somewhere.

    As far as I am concerned, his posting was no more than an
    educated guess or something overheard in a coffee shop. I know enough
    to take all such postings with large grains of salt.


    :Also, you're no legal expert, especially on US law. So please bag it.

    No thank you. The principle that "ignorance of the law is no excuse"
    has a legal Lutheren-like collalary, namely that each person may read
    the law and interpret it for themselves. I happen to have done some
    research into US Trade Secret law just a few weeks ago; the legal
    principles I presented were a lay wording summary of FAQ-format
    information posted by a law firm that claims to be specialists in Trade
    Secret and other Intellectual Property law -- including the point that
    US legal specialists have fundamental disagreements over the legal duty
    to safeguard information which has been publically revealed.


    You know, Mike, I never took you to be an advocate for censorship;
    I always thought of you as more an EFF type of guy, a believer
    that the antidote for bad information was not censorship but rather
    more [correct] information. Was my impression wrong all this time,
    or were you just frustrated in this instance because of my
    contrariness?
    --
    Aleph sub {Aleph sub null} little, Aleph sub {Aleph sub one} little,
    Aleph sub {Aleph sub two} little infinities...
     
    Walter Roberson, Jan 25, 2005
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  11. 1st qa 2005, prop, feb'05

    Here is the official featurelists:

    Beta-dokumentationen siger:

    Firewalling and Inspection Services
    .. Security Contexts (Virtual Firewall)
    .. Transparent Firewall (Layer 2 Firewall)
    .. Advanced HTTP Inspection Engine
    .. Enhanced FTP Inspection Engine
    .. ESMTP Inspection Engine
    .. Enhanced SunRPC / NIS+ Inspection Engine
    .. ICMP Inspection Engine
    .. GTP Inspection Engine for Mobile Wireless Environments
    .. Enhanced H.323 Inspection Engine
    .. Enhanced SIP Inspection Engine
    .. Enhanced MGCP Inspection Engine
    .. Enhanced RTSP Inspection Engine
    .. TCP Stream Reassembly and Traffic Normalization
    .. Outbound ACLs and Time-based ACLs
    .. Enable/Disable ACL Entries
    .. Improved Websense URL Filtering Performance

    Virtual Private Networking (VPN) Services
    .. OSPF Dynamic Routing over VPN
    .. Enhanced Spoke-to-Spoke VPN Support
    .. Enhanced X.509 Certificate Support
    .. VPN Client Security Posture Enforcement
    .. Block VPN Clients by OS and Software Version
    .. movianVPN Handheld VPN Client Support

    Network Integration
    .. Common Security-Level for Multiple Interfaces
    .. IPv6 Inspection, Access Control, and Management
    .. Enhanced Multicast Support
    .. Optional Address Translation: NAT Control
    .. Outbound Low Latency Queuing (LLQ) and Policing

    Management and Monitoring
    .. Modular Policy Framework
    .. SSHv2 and SCP Support
    .. Improved SNMP Support
    .. Multiple Configuration (Configuration Rollback) Support
    .. No Service Password Recovery
    .. Scheduled Reload (Reboot)

    AAA Integration Enhancements
    .. Improved Ping Support
    .. Command Line Interface (CLI) Usability Enhancements

    High Availability
    .. Active/Active Failover with Asymmetric Routing Support
    .. VPN Stateful Failover

    http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/pix-beta


    (This info is found on other newsgroups aswell)

    "BG" <> wrote in message
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    > I was just wondering if anybody has heard about a release date for a new
    > version of the Pix and PDM software?
    >
    >
    >
    > BG
    >
    >
     
    Martin Bilgrav, Jan 26, 2005
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  12. The Green Manalishi schrieb:
    > Fro Christ's sake Walter, I simply stated a fact that information
    > regarding PIX 7.0 beta is under an NDA.


    Sorry to bother you, but I have been at a Cisco Partner Update just a
    few days ago and the Cisco Security Guy talked a whole hour about 7.0
    and said nothing about secret or NDA. In fact, he told us that the new
    features could be marketing-relevant and could provide us (Cisco
    partners) with advantages...

    Regards,
    Stefan
     
    Stefan Gofferje, Jan 28, 2005
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