New Initiative as a part of MCP exams

Discussion in 'MCAD' started by Hermit Dave, Jan 5, 2004.

  1. Hermit Dave

    Hermit Dave Guest

    Considering the recent increase in usage of dumps for MCP certifications,
    Microsoft has been secretly doing a beta run of their new lie detector.
    There's an AI app which integrates with the current testing modules and has
    been collecting data on answering patterns... Depending on the speed and
    answers, you are asked at the end of exams whether you used any dumps. If it
    detects that you are lying... you get a static dischage of 30000 volts from
    a circuit attached to the mouse.

    And also that they monitor all the email address with the ip address and
    data from isps and if the id matches your registration data. you are asked
    to £%& off....

    --
    Regards,

    HD
    Hermit Dave, Jan 5, 2004
    #1
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  2. Sorry for the newbie question...

    What's a dump?
    Anonymous Coward, Jan 5, 2004
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  3. Hermit Dave

    Hermit Dave Guest

    interesting.... never thought of that.....

    Regards,

    HD

    "Anonymous Coward" <> wrote in message
    news:069101c3d383$cb2f3130$...
    > Sorry for the newbie question...
    >
    > What's a dump?
    Hermit Dave, Jan 5, 2004
    #3
  4. Hermit Dave

    HAHAHA Guest

    Nice try...by Microsoft and U too..Do u think anyone
    will believe this? Do u think pople who use dumps will
    actually get scared by this?
    If it's really true, then there's nothing more good than
    this one.
    I was taking an exam last week and another person took
    the same Microsoft exam along with me. But he finished it
    an half hour where as it took me 1 hour 45 minutes.
    Then I understood he used dumps and he scored more than
    me which made me feel worthless of all my hardwork.
    Really Microsoft should do something serious abt this
    matter. Not like sending 30,000 volts through the mouse,
    ofcourse ;-)




    >-----Original Message-----


    >Considering the recent increase in usage of dumps for

    MCP certifications,
    >Microsoft has been secretly doing a beta run of their

    new lie detector.
    >There's an AI app which integrates with the current

    testing modules and has
    >been collecting data on answering patterns... Depending

    on the speed and
    >answers, you are asked at the end of exams whether you

    used any dumps. If it
    >detects that you are lying... you get a static dischage

    of 30000 volts from
    >a circuit attached to the mouse.
    >
    >And also that they monitor all the email address with

    the ip address and
    >data from isps and if the id matches your registration

    data. you are asked
    >to £%& off....
    >
    >--
    >Regards,
    >
    >HD
    >
    >
    >.
    >
    HAHAHA, Jan 5, 2004
    #4
  5. Hermit Dave

    Hermit Dave Guest

    Nah see that was just me getting all pissed up cause this is a ms ng for
    godsake... and you have all sorts of people who ask where they would find
    dumps... i mean how can anyone be so lame... and dont they know how to use
    google ?

    bout people passing on dumps... well i have seen people pass and not know a
    thing bout programming...

    --
    Regards,

    HD

    "HAHAHA" <> wrote in message
    news:00c601c3d3c5$78d774f0$...
    Nice try...by Microsoft and U too..Do u think anyone
    will believe this? Do u think pople who use dumps will
    actually get scared by this?
    If it's really true, then there's nothing more good than
    this one.
    I was taking an exam last week and another person took
    the same Microsoft exam along with me. But he finished it
    an half hour where as it took me 1 hour 45 minutes.
    Then I understood he used dumps and he scored more than
    me which made me feel worthless of all my hardwork.
    Really Microsoft should do something serious abt this
    matter. Not like sending 30,000 volts through the mouse,
    ofcourse ;-)




    >-----Original Message-----


    >Considering the recent increase in usage of dumps for

    MCP certifications,
    >Microsoft has been secretly doing a beta run of their

    new lie detector.
    >There's an AI app which integrates with the current

    testing modules and has
    >been collecting data on answering patterns... Depending

    on the speed and
    >answers, you are asked at the end of exams whether you

    used any dumps. If it
    >detects that you are lying... you get a static dischage

    of 30000 volts from
    >a circuit attached to the mouse.
    >
    >And also that they monitor all the email address with

    the ip address and
    >data from isps and if the id matches your registration

    data. you are asked
    >to £%& off....
    >
    >--
    >Regards,
    >
    >HD
    >
    >
    >.
    >
    Hermit Dave, Jan 5, 2004
    #5
  6. Hermit Dave

    HAHAHA Guest

    exactly...i really think they are the most daring people
    to talk about dumps and cheating on an official Microsoft
    NewsGroup.
    They do not even know that they are not supposed to
    discuss it here.
    I really wonder if they are really innocent or stupid!!!!
    can't help !!!!
    But i laughed heartily after reading ur post, buddy!!! :)
    BTW, What are u preparing for?
    I am on my way to MCAD...

    >-----Original Message-----
    >Nah see that was just me getting all pissed up cause

    this is a ms ng for
    >godsake... and you have all sorts of people who ask

    where they would find
    >dumps... i mean how can anyone be so lame... and dont

    they know how to use
    >google ?
    >
    >bout people passing on dumps... well i have seen people

    pass and not know a
    >thing bout programming...
    >
    >--
    >Regards,
    >
    >HD
    >
    >"HAHAHA" <> wrote in

    message
    >news:00c601c3d3c5$78d774f0$...
    >Nice try...by Microsoft and U too..Do u think anyone
    >will believe this? Do u think pople who use dumps will
    >actually get scared by this?
    >If it's really true, then there's nothing more good than
    >this one.
    >I was taking an exam last week and another person took
    >the same Microsoft exam along with me. But he finished it
    >an half hour where as it took me 1 hour 45 minutes.
    >Then I understood he used dumps and he scored more than
    >me which made me feel worthless of all my hardwork.
    >Really Microsoft should do something serious abt this
    >matter. Not like sending 30,000 volts through the mouse,
    >ofcourse ;-)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >>-----Original Message-----

    >
    >>Considering the recent increase in usage of dumps for

    >MCP certifications,
    >>Microsoft has been secretly doing a beta run of their

    >new lie detector.
    >>There's an AI app which integrates with the current

    >testing modules and has
    >>been collecting data on answering patterns... Depending

    >on the speed and
    >>answers, you are asked at the end of exams whether you

    >used any dumps. If it
    >>detects that you are lying... you get a static dischage

    >of 30000 volts from
    >>a circuit attached to the mouse.
    >>
    >>And also that they monitor all the email address with

    >the ip address and
    >>data from isps and if the id matches your registration

    >data. you are asked
    >>to £%& off....
    >>
    >>--
    >>Regards,
    >>
    >>HD
    >>
    >>
    >>.
    >>

    >
    >
    >.
    >
    HAHAHA, Jan 5, 2004
    #6
  7. Hermit Dave

    Hermit Dave Guest

    Yes i am on my way to MCAD... and MCSD after that....
    did my SQL Server last year and got 4 exams free from MS but wasnt motivated
    enough then (to even give one of them)... so now paying for the exams and
    for some damn reason motivated as well... lol
    Got 70-315 at noon 2morrow... 13 hours to go....
    hopefully all my grinding should pay.... if not another 103 quid to shell
    out... :)
    --
    Regards,

    HD

    PS: I think some are innocent and some are stupid... i guess there are whole
    lot of sites who make it easy to post messages on MS NG without them exactly
    knowing that... plus the ISPs that do the relaying as well...

    "HAHAHA" <> wrote in message
    news:055e01c3d3dd$e4109130$...
    exactly...i really think they are the most daring people
    to talk about dumps and cheating on an official Microsoft
    NewsGroup.
    They do not even know that they are not supposed to
    discuss it here.
    I really wonder if they are really innocent or stupid!!!!
    can't help !!!!
    But i laughed heartily after reading ur post, buddy!!! :)
    BTW, What are u preparing for?
    I am on my way to MCAD...

    >-----Original Message-----
    >Nah see that was just me getting all pissed up cause

    this is a ms ng for
    >godsake... and you have all sorts of people who ask

    where they would find
    >dumps... i mean how can anyone be so lame... and dont

    they know how to use
    >google ?
    >
    >bout people passing on dumps... well i have seen people

    pass and not know a
    >thing bout programming...
    >
    >--
    >Regards,
    >
    >HD
    >
    >"HAHAHA" <> wrote in

    message
    >news:00c601c3d3c5$78d774f0$...
    >Nice try...by Microsoft and U too..Do u think anyone
    >will believe this? Do u think pople who use dumps will
    >actually get scared by this?
    >If it's really true, then there's nothing more good than
    >this one.
    >I was taking an exam last week and another person took
    >the same Microsoft exam along with me. But he finished it
    >an half hour where as it took me 1 hour 45 minutes.
    >Then I understood he used dumps and he scored more than
    >me which made me feel worthless of all my hardwork.
    >Really Microsoft should do something serious abt this
    >matter. Not like sending 30,000 volts through the mouse,
    >ofcourse ;-)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >>-----Original Message-----

    >
    >>Considering the recent increase in usage of dumps for

    >MCP certifications,
    >>Microsoft has been secretly doing a beta run of their

    >new lie detector.
    >>There's an AI app which integrates with the current

    >testing modules and has
    >>been collecting data on answering patterns... Depending

    >on the speed and
    >>answers, you are asked at the end of exams whether you

    >used any dumps. If it
    >>detects that you are lying... you get a static dischage

    >of 30000 volts from
    >>a circuit attached to the mouse.
    >>
    >>And also that they monitor all the email address with

    >the ip address and
    >>data from isps and if the id matches your registration

    >data. you are asked
    >>to £%& off....
    >>
    >>--
    >>Regards,
    >>
    >>HD
    >>
    >>
    >>.
    >>

    >
    >
    >.
    >
    Hermit Dave, Jan 5, 2004
    #7
  8. Hermit Dave

    HAHAHA Guest

    Good Luck then buddy.

    >-----Original Message-----
    >Yes i am on my way to MCAD... and MCSD after that....
    >did my SQL Server last year and got 4 exams free from MS

    but wasnt motivated
    >enough then (to even give one of them)... so now paying

    for the exams and
    >for some damn reason motivated as well... lol
    >Got 70-315 at noon 2morrow... 13 hours to go....
    >hopefully all my grinding should pay.... if not another

    103 quid to shell
    >out... :)
    >--
    >Regards,
    >
    >HD
    >
    >PS: I think some are innocent and some are stupid... i

    guess there are whole
    >lot of sites who make it easy to post messages on MS NG

    without them exactly
    >knowing that... plus the ISPs that do the relaying as

    well...
    >
    >"HAHAHA" <> wrote in

    message
    >news:055e01c3d3dd$e4109130$...
    >exactly...i really think they are the most daring people
    >to talk about dumps and cheating on an official Microsoft
    >NewsGroup.
    >They do not even know that they are not supposed to
    >discuss it here.
    >I really wonder if they are really innocent or stupid!!!!
    >can't help !!!!
    >But i laughed heartily after reading ur post, buddy!!! :)
    >BTW, What are u preparing for?
    >I am on my way to MCAD...
    >
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>Nah see that was just me getting all pissed up cause

    >this is a ms ng for
    >>godsake... and you have all sorts of people who ask

    >where they would find
    >>dumps... i mean how can anyone be so lame... and dont

    >they know how to use
    >>google ?
    >>
    >>bout people passing on dumps... well i have seen people

    >pass and not know a
    >>thing bout programming...
    >>
    >>--
    >>Regards,
    >>
    >>HD
    >>
    >>"HAHAHA" <> wrote in

    >message
    >>news:00c601c3d3c5$78d774f0$...
    >>Nice try...by Microsoft and U too..Do u think anyone
    >>will believe this? Do u think pople who use dumps will
    >>actually get scared by this?
    >>If it's really true, then there's nothing more good than
    >>this one.
    >>I was taking an exam last week and another person took
    >>the same Microsoft exam along with me. But he finished it
    >>an half hour where as it took me 1 hour 45 minutes.
    >>Then I understood he used dumps and he scored more than
    >>me which made me feel worthless of all my hardwork.
    >>Really Microsoft should do something serious abt this
    >>matter. Not like sending 30,000 volts through the mouse,
    >>ofcourse ;-)
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>-----Original Message-----

    >>
    >>>Considering the recent increase in usage of dumps for

    >>MCP certifications,
    >>>Microsoft has been secretly doing a beta run of their

    >>new lie detector.
    >>>There's an AI app which integrates with the current

    >>testing modules and has
    >>>been collecting data on answering patterns... Depending

    >>on the speed and
    >>>answers, you are asked at the end of exams whether you

    >>used any dumps. If it
    >>>detects that you are lying... you get a static dischage

    >>of 30000 volts from
    >>>a circuit attached to the mouse.
    >>>
    >>>And also that they monitor all the email address with

    >>the ip address and
    >>>data from isps and if the id matches your registration

    >>data. you are asked
    >>>to £%& off....
    >>>
    >>>--
    >>>Regards,
    >>>
    >>>HD
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>.
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >>.
    >>

    >
    >
    >.
    >
    HAHAHA, Jan 6, 2004
    #8
  9. In news: 069101c3d383$cb2f3130$,
    Anonymous Coward <> wrote:
    > Sorry for the newbie question...
    >
    > What's a dump?


    After taking the exams some people write down everything they remember about
    the exams (a "brain dump") and then share the information. While sharing the
    information violates the non-disclosure agreement, there's nothing wrong
    with writing notes for your own personal study if you failed the exam and
    are planning a second try.

    --
    Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    www.cindywinegarden.com
    Cindy Winegarden, Jan 6, 2004
    #9
  10. Hermit Dave

    Hermit Dave Guest

    Cindy,

    Agree with your point that there's nothing wrong if people do it for
    personal study. But i actually dont know anyone who's done that.... and most
    people use dumps of others and their answers without even knowing y !!!

    anyho.... guess thats one reason y certifications dont mean very much unless
    you actually work with the person...

    --
    Regards,

    HD

    "Cindy Winegarden" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In news: 069101c3d383$cb2f3130$,
    > Anonymous Coward <> wrote:
    > > Sorry for the newbie question...
    > >
    > > What's a dump?

    >
    > After taking the exams some people write down everything they remember

    about
    > the exams (a "brain dump") and then share the information. While sharing

    the
    > information violates the non-disclosure agreement, there's nothing wrong
    > with writing notes for your own personal study if you failed the exam and
    > are planning a second try.
    >
    > --
    > Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    > www.cindywinegarden.com
    >
    >
    >
    Hermit Dave, Jan 6, 2004
    #10
  11. Hermit Dave

    Hermit Dave Guest

    thanks mate... its all sorted.... 811 but i reckon that will do...

    --
    Regards,

    HD

    "HAHAHA" <> wrote in message
    news:03e301c3d3f2$79a7eae0$...
    Good Luck then buddy.

    >-----Original Message-----
    >Yes i am on my way to MCAD... and MCSD after that....
    >did my SQL Server last year and got 4 exams free from MS

    but wasnt motivated
    >enough then (to even give one of them)... so now paying

    for the exams and
    >for some damn reason motivated as well... lol
    >Got 70-315 at noon 2morrow... 13 hours to go....
    >hopefully all my grinding should pay.... if not another

    103 quid to shell
    >out... :)
    >--
    >Regards,
    >
    >HD
    >
    >PS: I think some are innocent and some are stupid... i

    guess there are whole
    >lot of sites who make it easy to post messages on MS NG

    without them exactly
    >knowing that... plus the ISPs that do the relaying as

    well...
    >
    >"HAHAHA" <> wrote in

    message
    >news:055e01c3d3dd$e4109130$...
    >exactly...i really think they are the most daring people
    >to talk about dumps and cheating on an official Microsoft
    >NewsGroup.
    >They do not even know that they are not supposed to
    >discuss it here.
    >I really wonder if they are really innocent or stupid!!!!
    >can't help !!!!
    >But i laughed heartily after reading ur post, buddy!!! :)
    >BTW, What are u preparing for?
    >I am on my way to MCAD...
    >
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>Nah see that was just me getting all pissed up cause

    >this is a ms ng for
    >>godsake... and you have all sorts of people who ask

    >where they would find
    >>dumps... i mean how can anyone be so lame... and dont

    >they know how to use
    >>google ?
    >>
    >>bout people passing on dumps... well i have seen people

    >pass and not know a
    >>thing bout programming...
    >>
    >>--
    >>Regards,
    >>
    >>HD
    >>
    >>"HAHAHA" <> wrote in

    >message
    >>news:00c601c3d3c5$78d774f0$...
    >>Nice try...by Microsoft and U too..Do u think anyone
    >>will believe this? Do u think pople who use dumps will
    >>actually get scared by this?
    >>If it's really true, then there's nothing more good than
    >>this one.
    >>I was taking an exam last week and another person took
    >>the same Microsoft exam along with me. But he finished it
    >>an half hour where as it took me 1 hour 45 minutes.
    >>Then I understood he used dumps and he scored more than
    >>me which made me feel worthless of all my hardwork.
    >>Really Microsoft should do something serious abt this
    >>matter. Not like sending 30,000 volts through the mouse,
    >>ofcourse ;-)
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>-----Original Message-----

    >>
    >>>Considering the recent increase in usage of dumps for

    >>MCP certifications,
    >>>Microsoft has been secretly doing a beta run of their

    >>new lie detector.
    >>>There's an AI app which integrates with the current

    >>testing modules and has
    >>>been collecting data on answering patterns... Depending

    >>on the speed and
    >>>answers, you are asked at the end of exams whether you

    >>used any dumps. If it
    >>>detects that you are lying... you get a static dischage

    >>of 30000 volts from
    >>>a circuit attached to the mouse.
    >>>
    >>>And also that they monitor all the email address with

    >>the ip address and
    >>>data from isps and if the id matches your registration

    >>data. you are asked
    >>>to £%& off....
    >>>
    >>>--
    >>>Regards,
    >>>
    >>>HD
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>.
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >>.
    >>

    >
    >
    >.
    >
    Hermit Dave, Jan 6, 2004
    #11
  12. In news: %23Adkz$,
    Hermit Dave <> wrote:
    > Agree with your point that there's nothing wrong if people do it for
    > personal study. But i actually dont know anyone who's done that....
    > and most people use dumps of others and their answers without even
    > knowing y !!!


    I sure have!

    I took an exam during its Beta period and didn't pass, but got a voucher for
    the live exam so it didn't kill me to pay for it twice. (Not every exam Beta
    program does this). By the time the exam went live I was better prepared and
    passed the exam.

    --
    Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    www.cindywinegarden.com
    Cindy Winegarden, Jan 6, 2004
    #12
  13. Hermit Dave

    Hermit Dave Guest

    oh well.... :) you are the first... there's always one... lol
    yeah even i got the voucher... got 4 of them and i wasnt prepared for even
    one then... so didnt give any i know its lame... now paying for it
    Anyways.. the sole reason y i did the post was people asking for dumps on
    microsoft newsgroup...
    1st its wrong and second... its stupid...
    --
    Regards,

    HD

    "Cindy Winegarden" <> wrote in message
    news:uHj%...
    > In news: %23Adkz$,
    > Hermit Dave <> wrote:
    > > Agree with your point that there's nothing wrong if people do it for
    > > personal study. But i actually dont know anyone who's done that....
    > > and most people use dumps of others and their answers without even
    > > knowing y !!!

    >
    > I sure have!
    >
    > I took an exam during its Beta period and didn't pass, but got a voucher

    for
    > the live exam so it didn't kill me to pay for it twice. (Not every exam

    Beta
    > program does this). By the time the exam went live I was better prepared

    and
    > passed the exam.
    >
    > --
    > Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    > www.cindywinegarden.com
    >
    >
    >
    Hermit Dave, Jan 6, 2004
    #13
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