Network help requested. [long]

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by kewlkiwi, Sep 5, 2005.

  1. kewlkiwi

    kewlkiwi Guest

    'Hope someone can help with this as it's starting to get annoying!

    I've recently changed from a dial-up to cable modem, and last week
    installed a Linksys cable router.

    Previously, each machine had a fixed ip in the 192.168.0.xx range,
    however I've now changed to using the DHCP server in the router and
    while each machine can access the 'net, none of them can see any of the
    others, or the network-enabled printer.

    To try and sort out the problem, I've limited it to just two boxes, a
    w98 and a w2k, without the printer.

    This is what is set:

    DHCP is enabled on the router.
    The same username, with the same password, is logged into both boxes.

    The following applies to _both_ machines:
    TCP/IP is set to 'Obtain IP address automatically'
    Network name is NETWORK1
    start\run "\\tower[x]" returns 'The remote computer is not available"

    ping 192.168.1.10[z] works ok
    ping tower[x] works ok
    _but_ Network Neighbourhood shows only the machine it is executed on.
    (The [x] represents the _other_ computer, either '3' or '4')
    ( " [z] " " " " " 100 or 101
    Trying to setup a shortcut (Map network drive) returns 'Computer or
    sharename cannot be found'

    Telnet returns 'Could not open a connection to tower[x]
    Computer has both (just in case!) an LMHOSTS and HOSTS file, each
    containing the ip and name of the other box

    Computer can access the internet via the cable router's WAN connection
    Share level access control is enabled
    Drive C: is shared

    and...

    ipcpnfig/all on the W2k box returns:
    Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . : tower4
    Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Descriptin . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-48-52-xx
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : [paradise primary dns]
    [ " secondary " ]
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 5 Sep 2005 7:29:28 p.m.
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 12 Sep 2005 6:08:28
    p.m.


    ipconfig on the w98 box returns:
    Windows 98 IP Configuration
    Host Name . . . . . . . . . : RWC
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : [paradise primary dns]
    [ " secondary " ]
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
    NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
    NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes
    0 Ethernet adapter :
    Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapt
    Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-B4-52-18-xx
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    Primary WINS Server . . . . :
    Secondary WINS Server . . . :
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 09 05 05 17:25:50
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 09 12 05 16:04:50

    (MAC number altered on both the above)

    The router is at 192.168.1.1

    I have to admit, I dont really know what I'm doing here! 'Managed to get
    the previous network up and running mainly by trial and error, so I'm
    hoping somone here will spot a simple mistake and help me out...

    Also, why does ipconfig on the w98 return 'RWC' instead of 'tower3'
    which is what's set on the identification tab of network properties?

    Thanks, Bob
     
    kewlkiwi, Sep 5, 2005
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  2. kewlkiwi

    Craig Shore Guest

    On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 21:21:57 +1200, kewlkiwi <> wrote:

    >'Hope someone can help with this as it's starting to get annoying!


    Are you running a firewall on the computers, and if so have you enabled access
    in it for the computers to see each other?
     
    Craig Shore, Sep 5, 2005
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  3. kewlkiwi

    KewlKiwi Guest

    Craig Shore wrote:
    > Are you running a firewall on the computers, and if so have you

    enabled access
    > in it for the computers to see each other?



    On the original network I was, but now the router is doing it the
    firewall has been removed from both.

    'Have now found where the 'RWC' was coming from: it was set as the host
    name on the DNS configuration tab of the TCP/IP properties (This is the
    w98 box).

    Changed that to tower3 with no effect.
    Bob
     
    KewlKiwi, Sep 5, 2005
    #3
  4. kewlkiwi

    Dave Taylor Guest

    Dave Taylor, Sep 5, 2005
    #4
  5. kewlkiwi

    bob Guest

    "kewlkiwi" <> wrote in message
    news:431c0e02$...
    > 'Hope someone can help with this as it's starting to get annoying!
    >
    > I've recently changed from a dial-up to cable modem, and last week
    > installed a Linksys cable router.
    >
    > Previously, each machine had a fixed ip in the 192.168.0.xx range,
    > however I've now changed to using the DHCP server in the router and
    > while each machine can access the 'net, none of them can see any of the
    > others, or the network-enabled printer.
    >
    > To try and sort out the problem, I've limited it to just two boxes, a
    > w98 and a w2k, without the printer.
    >
    > This is what is set:
    >
    > DHCP is enabled on the router.
    > The same username, with the same password, is logged into both boxes.
    >
    > The following applies to _both_ machines:
    > TCP/IP is set to 'Obtain IP address automatically'
    > Network name is NETWORK1
    > start\run "\\tower[x]" returns 'The remote computer is not

    available"
    >
    > ping 192.168.1.10[z] works ok
    > ping tower[x] works ok
    > _but_ Network Neighbourhood shows only the machine it is executed on.
    > (The [x] represents the _other_ computer, either '3' or '4')
    > ( " [z] " " " " " 100 or 101
    > Trying to setup a shortcut (Map network drive) returns 'Computer or
    > sharename cannot be found'
    >
    > Telnet returns 'Could not open a connection to tower[x]
    > Computer has both (just in case!) an LMHOSTS and HOSTS file, each
    > containing the ip and name of the other box
    >
    > Computer can access the internet via the cable router's WAN connection
    > Share level access control is enabled
    > Drive C: is shared
    >
    > and...
    >
    > ipcpnfig/all on the W2k box returns:
    > Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . : tower4
    > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > Descriptin . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-48-52-xx
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : [paradise primary dns]
    > [ " secondary " ]
    > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 5 Sep 2005 7:29:28

    p.m.
    > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 12 Sep 2005 6:08:28
    > p.m.
    >
    >
    > ipconfig on the w98 box returns:
    > Windows 98 IP Configuration
    > Host Name . . . . . . . . . : RWC
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : [paradise primary dns]
    > [ " secondary " ]
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
    > NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
    > NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes
    > 0 Ethernet adapter :
    > Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapt
    > Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-B4-52-18-xx
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    > IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > Primary WINS Server . . . . :
    > Secondary WINS Server . . . :
    > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 09 05 05 17:25:50
    > Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 09 12 05 16:04:50
    >
    > (MAC number altered on both the above)
    >
    > The router is at 192.168.1.1
    >
    > I have to admit, I dont really know what I'm doing here! 'Managed to get
    > the previous network up and running mainly by trial and error, so I'm
    > hoping somone here will spot a simple mistake and help me out...
    >
    > Also, why does ipconfig on the w98 return 'RWC' instead of 'tower3'
    > which is what's set on the identification tab of network properties?
    >
    > Thanks, Bob


    Ideas,
    Do all PC's have same WORKGROUP name.
    In the Local Area Connection settings under Start - Settings
    Network Connections - Connection Icon.. Do you
    have "File and Printer Sharing" enabled in the list on
    both PC's.

    If this is all set. Restart both PC's. Access the other
    PC via Start Run \\name\ see if it works..
     
    bob, Sep 5, 2005
    #5
  6. kewlkiwi

    Bret Guest

    On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 21:21:57 +1200, kewlkiwi <>
    wrote:

    >'Hope someone can help with this as it's starting to get annoying!
    >
    >I've recently changed from a dial-up to cable modem, and last week
    >installed a Linksys cable router.
    >
    >Previously, each machine had a fixed ip in the 192.168.0.xx range,
    >however I've now changed to using the DHCP server in the router and
    >while each machine can access the 'net, none of them can see any of the
    >others, or the network-enabled printer.
    >
    >To try and sort out the problem, I've limited it to just two boxes, a
    >w98 and a w2k, without the printer.
    >
    >This is what is set:
    >
    >DHCP is enabled on the router.
    >The same username, with the same password, is logged into both boxes.
    >
    >The following applies to _both_ machines:
    > TCP/IP is set to 'Obtain IP address automatically'
    > Network name is NETWORK1
    > start\run "\\tower[x]" returns 'The remote computer is not available"
    >
    > ping 192.168.1.10[z] works ok
    > ping tower[x] works ok
    > _but_ Network Neighbourhood shows only the machine it is executed on.
    > (The [x] represents the _other_ computer, either '3' or '4')
    > ( " [z] " " " " " 100 or 101
    > Trying to setup a shortcut (Map network drive) returns 'Computer or
    >sharename cannot be found'
    >
    > Telnet returns 'Could not open a connection to tower[x]
    > Computer has both (just in case!) an LMHOSTS and HOSTS file, each
    >containing the ip and name of the other box
    >
    > Computer can access the internet via the cable router's WAN connection
    > Share level access control is enabled
    > Drive C: is shared
    >
    >and...
    >
    >ipcpnfig/all on the W2k box returns:
    >Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . : tower4
    > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > Descriptin . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-48-52-xx
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : [paradise primary dns]
    > [ " secondary " ]
    > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 5 Sep 2005 7:29:28 p.m.
    > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 12 Sep 2005 6:08:28
    >p.m.
    >
    >
    >ipconfig on the w98 box returns:
    >Windows 98 IP Configuration
    > Host Name . . . . . . . . . : RWC
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : [paradise primary dns]
    > [ " secondary " ]
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
    > NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
    > NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes
    > 0 Ethernet adapter :
    > Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapt
    > Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-B4-52-18-xx
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    > IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > Primary WINS Server . . . . :
    > Secondary WINS Server . . . :
    > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 09 05 05 17:25:50
    > Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 09 12 05 16:04:50
    >
    >(MAC number altered on both the above)
    >
    >The router is at 192.168.1.1
    >
    >I have to admit, I dont really know what I'm doing here! 'Managed to get
    >the previous network up and running mainly by trial and error, so I'm
    >hoping somone here will spot a simple mistake and help me out...
    >
    >Also, why does ipconfig on the w98 return 'RWC' instead of 'tower3'
    >which is what's set on the identification tab of network properties?
    >
    >Thanks, Bob


    Are you sharing anything?
     
    Bret, Sep 5, 2005
    #6
  7. "kewlkiwi" <> wrote in message
    news:431c0e02$...
    > 'Hope someone can help with this as it's starting to get annoying!
    >
    > I've recently changed from a dial-up to cable modem, and last week
    > installed a Linksys cable router.
    >
    > Previously, each machine had a fixed ip in the 192.168.0.xx range, however
    > I've now changed to using the DHCP server in the router and while each
    > machine can access the 'net, none of them can see any of the others, or
    > the network-enabled printer.
    >
    > To try and sort out the problem, I've limited it to just two boxes, a w98
    > and a w2k, without the printer.
    >
    > This is what is set:
    >
    > DHCP is enabled on the router.
    > The same username, with the same password, is logged into both boxes.
    >
    > The following applies to _both_ machines:
    > TCP/IP is set to 'Obtain IP address automatically'
    > Network name is NETWORK1
    > start\run "\\tower[x]" returns 'The remote computer is not available"
    >
    > ping 192.168.1.10[z] works ok
    > ping tower[x] works ok
    > _but_ Network Neighbourhood shows only the machine it is executed on.
    > (The [x] represents the _other_ computer, either '3' or '4')
    > ( " [z] " " " " " 100 or 101
    > Trying to setup a shortcut (Map network drive) returns 'Computer or
    > sharename cannot be found'
    >
    > Telnet returns 'Could not open a connection to tower[x]
    > Computer has both (just in case!) an LMHOSTS and HOSTS file, each
    > containing the ip and name of the other box
    >
    > Computer can access the internet via the cable router's WAN connection
    > Share level access control is enabled
    > Drive C: is shared
    >
    > and...
    >
    > ipcpnfig/all on the W2k box returns:
    > Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . : tower4
    > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > Descriptin . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-48-52-xx
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : [paradise primary dns]
    > [ " secondary " ]
    > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
    > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 5 Sep 2005 7:29:28
    > p.m.
    > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 12 Sep 2005 6:08:28
    > p.m.
    >
    >
    > ipconfig on the w98 box returns:
    > Windows 98 IP Configuration
    > Host Name . . . . . . . . . : RWC
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : [paradise primary dns]
    > [ " secondary " ]
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
    > NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
    > NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes
    > 0 Ethernet adapter :
    > Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapt
    > Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-B4-52-18-xx
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    > IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > Primary WINS Server . . . . :
    > Secondary WINS Server . . . : Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 09 05
    > 05 17:25:50
    > Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 09 12 05 16:04:50
    >
    > (MAC number altered on both the above)
    >
    > The router is at 192.168.1.1
    >
    > I have to admit, I dont really know what I'm doing here! 'Managed to get
    > the previous network up and running mainly by trial and error, so I'm
    > hoping somone here will spot a simple mistake and help me out...
    >
    > Also, why does ipconfig on the w98 return 'RWC' instead of 'tower3' which
    > is what's set on the identification tab of network properties?
    >
    > Thanks, Bob


    switch on netbios under tcp configuration.
     
    news.xtra.co.nz, Sep 6, 2005
    #7
  8. kewlkiwi

    Guest

    Dave Taylor replied with:
    >> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled


    >Possible problem here

    Netbui I'm saving as a last resort! Doesn't it run over TCP/IP
    anyway?

    >>Also just run the XP Networking Wizard on both machines.

    http://support.microsoft.com/d efault.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;2834 29

    Hmm, will that work for W98 and W2k as well? If so, I'llgive it a
    whirl!

    And speaking of corrupted TCP/IP... If I want to totally remove all
    traces of networking (in order to start afresh) does it require
    physically removing the nic, or can it simply be turned off in device
    manager and removing all the protocols etc? The later would be a lot
    simpler, but it might leave bits in the registry perhaps.

    Thanks Dave.

    Bob
     
    , Sep 6, 2005
    #8
  9. kewlkiwi

    Guest

    Bob (not me!) wrote:

    >Do all PC's have same WORKGROUP name.

    In the Local Area Connection settings under Start - Settings
    Network Connections - Connection Icon..

    Yep, unchanged from the original working setup. I'm using the
    highly original name of 'NETWORK1'

    >Do you have "File and Printer Sharing" enabled in the list on

    both PC's.

    Yes again. And the C drive of the W98 is shared, along with a couple
    of the drives on the W2k box

    >If this is all set. Restart both PC's. Access the other

    PC via Start Run \\name\ see if it works..

    No good, (have tried this already, in the original post...)
    Comes back with 'The network path was not found'

    Thanks Bob
    (Kewlkiwi) Bob
     
    , Sep 6, 2005
    #9
  10. kewlkiwi

    Guest

    Bret wrote:
    >Are you sharing anything?


    Sure am Bret - see above post.

    Bob
     
    , Sep 6, 2005
    #10
  11. kewlkiwi

    Bret Guest

    On 6 Sep 2005 03:45:51 -0700, ""
    <> wrote:

    >Bret wrote:
    >>Are you sharing anything?

    >
    >Sure am Bret - see above post.
    >
    >Bob


    Sorry, my bad.
     
    Bret, Sep 6, 2005
    #11
  12. kewlkiwi

    AD. Guest

    On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:34:53 -0700, wrote:

    > Dave Taylor replied with:
    >>> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

    >
    >>Possible problem here

    > Netbui I'm saving as a last resort! Doesn't it run over TCP/IP anyway?


    Netbeui (I've forgotten how to spell it - it been that long) and Netbios
    aren't the quite same thing.

    Enable the Netbios over TCP/IP - you won't need install Netbeui to do that.

    You can't do file sharing on Win9x without Netbios. W2k and later can
    though.

    --
    Cheers
    Anton
     
    AD., Sep 7, 2005
    #12
  13. In article <431c0e02$>, kewlkiwi <>
    wrote:

    >Previously, each machine had a fixed ip in the 192.168.0.xx range,
    >however I've now changed to using the DHCP server in the router and
    >while each machine can access the 'net, none of them can see any of the
    >others, or the network-enabled printer.


    This is a complete shot in the dark, but the one time I had a similar
    problem, it was because I'd plugged a machine into the wrong port on my
    switch. There are two connectors for the first port: a normal one and a
    crossed-over one (labeled "Uplink") into which my ADSL router is
    connected. I'd forgotten about this and put a machine on the normal one
    as well, instead of leaving that empty and using another one.
     
    Lawrence D¹Oliveiro, Sep 15, 2005
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