Net censorship in NZ?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by ~misfit~, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    I see China has blocked Wikipedia again, not that it's a big surprise.

    However, it seems that NZ isn't that different. I see this link on NZCity
    homepage:

    Man finds police tracking devices in cars

    and when I click it the stuff.co.nz site says "Sorry this story is no longer
    available".

    Maybe we're not as free a country as we all thought?
    --
    TTFN.

    Shaun.
     
    ~misfit~, Sep 7, 2007
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  2. ~misfit~

    none Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:
    > <FUD>


    Or maybe NZCity has a bad link.

    Story is still on Stuff's frontpage.
     
    none, Sep 7, 2007
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  3. ~misfit~

    Donchano Guest

    On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:03:07 +1200, "~misfit~"
    <> magnanimously proffered:

    >I see China has blocked Wikipedia again, not that it's a big surprise.
    >
    >However, it seems that NZ isn't that different. I see this link on NZCity
    >homepage:
    >
    >Man finds police tracking devices in cars
    >
    >and when I click it the stuff.co.nz site says "Sorry this story is no longer
    >available".
    >
    >Maybe we're not as free a country as we all thought?


    That happens with Stuff links all the time. I get their news headline
    email update every morning and by the time I click on one of their
    links the link is dead. So I have to go to their website and find the
    headline again. So it's not so much "Net censorship" as it is a
    Stuff-up.
     
    Donchano, Sep 7, 2007
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  4. ~misfit~

    thingy Guest

    Donchano wrote:
    > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:03:07 +1200, "~misfit~"
    > <> magnanimously proffered:
    >
    >> I see China has blocked Wikipedia again, not that it's a big surprise.
    >>
    >> However, it seems that NZ isn't that different. I see this link on NZCity
    >> homepage:
    >>
    >> Man finds police tracking devices in cars
    >>
    >> and when I click it the stuff.co.nz site says "Sorry this story is no longer
    >> available".
    >>
    >> Maybe we're not as free a country as we all thought?

    >
    > That happens with Stuff links all the time. I get their news headline
    > email update every morning and by the time I click on one of their
    > links the link is dead. So I have to go to their website and find the
    > headline again. So it's not so much "Net censorship" as it is a
    > Stuff-up.


    yep....several times a month a stuff link breaks...

    regards

    Thing
     
    thingy, Sep 7, 2007
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  5. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    none wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    > > <FUD>

    >
    > Or maybe NZCity has a bad link.
    >
    > Story is still on Stuff's frontpage.


    Yes, I was just about to post that it's back up now.

    It wasn't a bad link, I kept hitting 'refresh' on the linked page and
    finally got the story. It also wasn't a DNS problem or anything else
    otherwise I wouldn't have got a "This story is no longer available" page.

    The page: http://www.stuff.co.nz//4192807a11.html
    --
    TTFN.

    Shaun.
     
    ~misfit~, Sep 7, 2007
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  6. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Donchano wrote:
    > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:03:07 +1200, "~misfit~"
    > <> magnanimously proffered:
    >
    > > I see China has blocked Wikipedia again, not that it's a big
    > > surprise.
    > >
    > > However, it seems that NZ isn't that different. I see this link on
    > > NZCity homepage:
    > >
    > > Man finds police tracking devices in cars
    > >
    > > and when I click it the stuff.co.nz site says "Sorry this story is
    > > no longer available".
    > >
    > > Maybe we're not as free a country as we all thought?

    >
    > That happens with Stuff links all the time. I get their news headline
    > email update every morning and by the time I click on one of their
    > links the link is dead. So I have to go to their website and find the
    > headline again. So it's not so much "Net censorship" as it is a
    > Stuff-up.


    Ok. Seems strange that I finally got the page by repeatedly clicking refresh
    over a period of an hour or so. If the link *was* dead then it's ressurected
    and, while dead, had a "no longer available" notice displayed.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz//4192807a11.html

    Cheers,
    --
    TTFN.

    Shaun.
     
    ~misfit~, Sep 7, 2007
    #6
  7. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    none wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    > > <FUD>

    >
    > Or maybe NZCity has a bad link.
    >
    > Story is still on Stuff's frontpage.


    Oh, as for your FUD comment, the NZ Police got Trademe to pull the auctions
    for the devices, it's not a huge step from there to then get Stuff to pull a
    story about them.

    Seems Stuff may have had a change of heart.
    --
    TTFN.

    Shaun.
     
    ~misfit~, Sep 7, 2007
    #7
  8. ~misfit~

    Geoff Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:
    > I see China has blocked Wikipedia again, not that it's a big surprise.
    >
    > However, it seems that NZ isn't that different. I see this link on
    > NZCity homepage:
    >
    > Man finds police tracking devices in cars
    >
    > and when I click it the stuff.co.nz site says "Sorry this story is no
    > longer available".
    >
    > Maybe we're not as free a country as we all thought?


    I'd cut down on the P if I was you. The paranoia just isn't worth it.

    Mind you on the up-side, only two sleeps until Christmas.

    geoff
     
    Geoff, Sep 7, 2007
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  9. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Geoff wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    > > I see China has blocked Wikipedia again, not that it's a big
    > > surprise. However, it seems that NZ isn't that different. I see this
    > > link on
    > > NZCity homepage:
    > >
    > > Man finds police tracking devices in cars
    > >
    > > and when I click it the stuff.co.nz site says "Sorry this story is
    > > no longer available".
    > >
    > > Maybe we're not as free a country as we all thought?

    >
    > I'd cut down on the P if I was you.


    You're *not* me, and any fantasies to the contrary will ultimately only
    contribute to your drug problem.

    > The paranoia just isn't worth it.


    I'll take your word for it, already it's not looking good. Just say "No"!

    > Mind you on the up-side, only two sleeps until Christmas.


    That's just sad, get help man, it looks like you're sinking fast. That
    nonsense post of yours in alt.talk.royalty was a big STOP sign.

    And here was me, after reading many of your posts, thinking you were just a
    serial flippant 'commenter' with an attitude problem. I see now that it's
    the drug abuse. You have my sympathy.
    --
    TTFN.

    Shaun.
     
    ~misfit~, Sep 7, 2007
    #9
  10. In article <46e09e86$>, says...
    >
    > Ok. Seems strange that I finally got the page by repeatedly clicking refresh
    > over a period of an hour or so. If the link *was* dead then it's ressurected
    > and, while dead, had a "no longer available" notice displayed.
    >


    I've had the very same thing happen with Herald news stories from time to time.
    Regularly, in fact.
    They disappeared, then suddenly they were up again. Go figure. (hasn't happened
    for a couple of months or so, though, so maybe they have improved their
    practices).

    cheers, -P.

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    firstname dot lastname at gmail fullstop com
     
    Peter Huebner, Sep 7, 2007
    #10
  11. ~misfit~

    Fred Dagg Guest

    On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:47:05 +1200, "~misfit~"
    <> exclaimed:

    >Donchano wrote:
    >> On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:03:07 +1200, "~misfit~"
    >> <> magnanimously proffered:
    >>
    >> > I see China has blocked Wikipedia again, not that it's a big
    >> > surprise.
    >> >
    >> > However, it seems that NZ isn't that different. I see this link on
    >> > NZCity homepage:
    >> >
    >> > Man finds police tracking devices in cars
    >> >
    >> > and when I click it the stuff.co.nz site says "Sorry this story is
    >> > no longer available".
    >> >
    >> > Maybe we're not as free a country as we all thought?

    >>
    >> That happens with Stuff links all the time. I get their news headline
    >> email update every morning and by the time I click on one of their
    >> links the link is dead. So I have to go to their website and find the
    >> headline again. So it's not so much "Net censorship" as it is a
    >> Stuff-up.

    >
    >Ok. Seems strange that I finally got the page by repeatedly clicking refresh
    >over a period of an hour or so. If the link *was* dead then it's ressurected
    >and, while dead, had a "no longer available" notice displayed.
    >
    >http://www.stuff.co.nz//4192807a11.html
    >
    >Cheers,


    It might just be me, but I think it's odd that you'd sit there and
    click "refresh" repeatedly for an hour or so on a dead link...
     
    Fred Dagg, Sep 7, 2007
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  12. ~misfit~

    lolinternet Guest

    Geoff wrote:
    > Mind you on the up-side, only two sleeps until Christmas.


    I lol'd
     
    lolinternet, Sep 7, 2007
    #12
  13. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Peter Huebner wrote:
    > In article <46e09e86$>,
    > says...
    > >
    > > Ok. Seems strange that I finally got the page by repeatedly
    > > clicking refresh over a period of an hour or so. If the link *was*
    > > dead then it's ressurected and, while dead, had a "no longer
    > > available" notice displayed.
    > >

    >
    > I've had the very same thing happen with Herald news stories from
    > time to time. Regularly, in fact.
    > They disappeared, then suddenly they were up again. Go figure.
    > (hasn't happened for a couple of months or so, though, so maybe they
    > have improved their practices).
    >
    > cheers, -P.


    Ahh, ok. I've not struck anything quite like that before. Must have been
    coincidence.

    Cheers,
    --
    TTFN.

    Shaun.
     
    ~misfit~, Sep 7, 2007
    #13
  14. ~misfit~

    Ralph Fox Guest

    On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:49:31 +1200, in message <46e09f18$>,
    ~misfit~ wrote:

    > none wrote:
    > > ~misfit~ wrote:
    > > > <FUD>

    > >
    > > Or maybe NZCity has a bad link.
    > >
    > > Story is still on Stuff's frontpage.

    >
    > Oh, as for your FUD comment, the NZ Police got Trademe to pull the auctions
    > for the devices, it's not a huge step from there to then get Stuff to pull a
    > story about them.


    It _is_ a huge step. You don't understand the difference.

    • Trademe would pull the auction, simply because the seller
    did not own the devices which he was trying to sell.

    • This does not apply to the Stuff story. The Stuff story does
    not contain someone else's property (copyright or proprietary
    confidential).


    > Seems Stuff may have had a change of heart.


    As others have said, news links do go down at times.


    --
    Cheers,
    Ralph
     
    Ralph Fox, Sep 7, 2007
    #14
  15. In <> ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Peter Huebner wrote:
    >> In article <46e09e86$>,
    >> says...
    >> >
    >> > Ok. Seems strange that I finally got the page by repeatedly
    >> > clicking refresh over a period of an hour or so. If the link *was*
    >> > dead then it's ressurected and, while dead, had a "no longer
    >> > available" notice displayed.
    >> >

    >>
    >> I've had the very same thing happen with Herald news stories from
    >> time to time. Regularly, in fact.
    >> They disappeared, then suddenly they were up again. Go figure.
    >> (hasn't happened for a couple of months or so, though, so maybe they
    >> have improved their practices).
    >>
    >> cheers, -P.

    >
    > Ahh, ok. I've not struck anything quite like that before. Must have
    > been coincidence.


    Which is exactly what they _want_ you to think. Or is it....?


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    * SCART RGB video cable for Apple IIGS
     
    Roger Johnstone, Sep 8, 2007
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  16. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Roger Johnstone wrote:
    > In <> ~misfit~ wrote:
    > > Peter Huebner wrote:
    > > > In article <46e09e86$>,
    > > > says...
    > > > >
    > > > > Ok. Seems strange that I finally got the page by repeatedly
    > > > > clicking refresh over a period of an hour or so. If the link
    > > > > *was* dead then it's ressurected and, while dead, had a "no
    > > > > longer available" notice displayed.
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > I've had the very same thing happen with Herald news stories from
    > > > time to time. Regularly, in fact.
    > > > They disappeared, then suddenly they were up again. Go figure.
    > > > (hasn't happened for a couple of months or so, though, so maybe
    > > > they have improved their practices).
    > > >
    > > > cheers, -P.

    > >
    > > Ahh, ok. I've not struck anything quite like that before. Must have
    > > been coincidence.

    >
    > Which is exactly what they _want_ you to think. Or is it....?


    Ok, now you're starting to sound like Geoff. ;-)
    --
    TTFN.

    Shaun.
     
    ~misfit~, Sep 8, 2007
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  17. ~misfit~

    Geoff Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:

    > That's just sad, get help man, it looks like you're sinking fast. That
    > nonsense post of yours in alt.talk.royalty was a big STOP sign.



    Yer what ?

    geoff
     
    Geoff, Sep 10, 2007
    #17
  18. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Geoff wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    > > That's just sad, get help man, it looks like you're sinking fast.
    > > That nonsense post of yours in alt.talk.royalty was a big STOP sign.

    >
    > Yer what ?
    >
    > geoff


    You don't remember making the post below? (I anticipated your response so
    had it all ready. <g>) If you really don't remember you're further into
    Amphetamine-Induced Psychosis than I thought. Post follows, can be found on
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    Subject: Re: Some guys in a white van tried to sell me speakers today.
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    ~misfit~, Sep 10, 2007
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  19. ~misfit~

    Geoff Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Geoff wrote:
    >> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>> That's just sad, get help man, it looks like you're sinking fast.
    >>> That nonsense post of yours in alt.talk.royalty was a big STOP sign.

    >>
    >> Yer what ?
    >>
    >> geoff

    >
    > You don't remember making the post below? (I anticipated your
    > response so had it all ready. <g>) If you really don't remember
    > you're further into Amphetamine-Induced Psychosis than I thought.
    > Post follows, can be found on Google:
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------


    No, I can't remember making this post, because I didn't.

    You must have more time on your hands than is good for you, preparing that
    response.

    Whatever....

    geof
     
    Geoff, Sep 10, 2007
    #19
  20. On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:50:36 +1200, Geoff <> wrote
    in <news:>:

    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    >> Geoff wrote:
    >>> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>>> That's just sad, get help man, it looks like you're sinking fast.
    >>>> That nonsense post of yours in alt.talk.royalty was a big STOP sign.
    >>>
    >>> Yer what ?
    >>>
    >>> geoff

    >>
    >> You don't remember making the post below? (I anticipated your
    >> response so had it all ready. <g>) If you really don't remember
    >> you're further into Amphetamine-Induced Psychosis than I thought.
    >> Post follows, can be found on Google:
    >>
    >> ----------------------------------------------

    >
    > No, I can't remember making this post, because I didn't.
    >
    > You must have more time on your hands than is good for you, preparing that
    > response.
    >
    > Whatever....
    >
    > geof


    I suggest you both look up the term SPORGE to gain a litle enlightenment
    and stop trying to strangle one another.

    --
    Nicolaas.


    .... It is wrong to ever split an infinitive.
     
    Nicolaas Hawkins, Sep 10, 2007
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