Need Opinions on FireFox

Discussion in 'Firefox' started by MereGoddess, Aug 27, 2006.

  1. MereGoddess

    MereGoddess Guest

    Hi

    I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like some
    opinions if you have them.

    1. Basic. Does it work? lol
    2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?
    3. Does it run smoothly, or does it have bugs?
    4. Do you like it better than IE?

    I really would like to try it as it seems my IE has corrupted files that I
    haven't been able to fix and I really didn't want to have to re install it
    or try IE 7.0 in the beta version.

    Any and all comments, opinions would be appreciated.

    Thanks!
     
    MereGoddess, Aug 27, 2006
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  2. MereGoddess

    gwtc Guest

    MereGoddess wrote:
    > Hi
    >
    > I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like some
    > opinions if you have them.
    >
    > 1. Basic. Does it work? lol


    No ;-) lol

    > 2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?


    Yes and no

    > 3. Does it run smoothly, or does it have bugs?


    yes and no. Not as many as IE. And the bugs that it does have are
    usually plugged very quickly, not like IE where some haven't been
    acted on for years

    > 4. Do you like it better than IE?
    >


    thats a big affirmative

    > I really would like to try it as it seems my IE has corrupted files that I
    > haven't been able to fix and I really didn't want to have to re install it
    > or try IE 7.0 in the beta version.
    >
    > Any and all comments, opinions would be appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    >



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    gwtc, Aug 27, 2006
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  3. MereGoddess

    Ed Mullen Guest

    gwtc wrote:
    > MereGoddess wrote:
    >> Hi
    >>
    >> I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like
    >> some opinions if you have them.
    >>
    >> 1. Basic. Does it work? lol

    >
    > No ;-) lol
    >


    Cute. But, yes, it works.

    >> 2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?

    >
    > Yes and no
    >


    Huh? Please elaborate. In what way are IE and FF either incompatible
    or not able to co-exist on a Windows system?

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    Ed Mullen, Aug 28, 2006
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  4. MereGoddess wrote:
    > Hi
    >
    > I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like some
    > opinions if you have them.
    >
    > 1. Basic. Does it work? lol
    > 2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?
    > 3. Does it run smoothly, or does it have bugs?
    > 4. Do you like it better than IE?
    >
    > I really would like to try it as it seems my IE has corrupted files that I
    > haven't been able to fix and I really didn't want to have to re install it
    > or try IE 7.0 in the beta version.
    >
    > Any and all comments, opinions would be appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    >



    1 Does Firefox work? Nope, not at all. It shows me everything I want on
    the web, goes thru Flash animations and javascripts, even Java applests
    and doesnt even break a sweat. To Firefox, surfing isnt work at all, its
    tantamount to a vacation, it gets out of the house and goes places, its
    enjoying itself. So no, Firefox doesnt work

    2 Yes, you can have both installed at the same time. You can even have
    them both running at the same time! However, while Firefox is having a
    grand ol time, IE is slaving away trying to show the same stuff. Have
    pity on the Microsoft product, it prefers to stay home and do nothing.

    3 Firefox has bugs but you really have to look for them. Any program
    has bugs.

    4 Oh I really hate Firefox for doing what it does and doing it so well.
    It makes it look so simple - so easy - that you wonder why other
    products have so much trouble. It makes IE look like Microslush Internet
    Exploder, showing how unneccessary it is, but its built in to Windows
    systems - meaning I cant get rid of it. So yes I hate Firefox for making
    a part of the Windows Operating System obslete and redundant and
    useless. Since I cant get rid of IE from the system it makes me feel bad
    that there is all that wasted code there.
     
    Mozilla Champion (Dan), Aug 28, 2006
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  5. MereGoddess

    gwtc Guest

    Ed Mullen wrote:
    > gwtc wrote:
    >> MereGoddess wrote:
    >>> Hi
    >>>
    >>> I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like
    >>> some opinions if you have them.
    >>>
    >>> 1. Basic. Does it work? lol

    >>
    >> No ;-) lol
    >>

    >
    > Cute. But, yes, it works.


    didn't you see my little winkie :p

    >
    >>> 2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?

    >>
    >> Yes and no
    >>

    >
    > Huh? Please elaborate. In what way are IE and FF either incompatible
    > or not able to co-exist on a Windows system?
    >

    I said yes and no. Yes you can run it AND explorer, and no you don't
    have to uninstall explorer.

    --
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    Avoid arguments with the Mrs. about lifting the toilet seat by simply
    using the sink.
     
    gwtc, Aug 28, 2006
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  6. MereGoddess

    Guest Guest

    I've been using it for about a year now and would never go back to I.E. for
    any reason. There is a learning curve but after you get used to Firefox I'm
    sure you'll like it.

    -- Mike




    "MereGoddess" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi
    >
    > I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like some
    > opinions if you have them.
    >
    > 1. Basic. Does it work? lol
    > 2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?
    > 3. Does it run smoothly, or does it have bugs?
    > 4. Do you like it better than IE?
    >
    > I really would like to try it as it seems my IE has corrupted files that I
    > haven't been able to fix and I really didn't want to have to re install it
    > or try IE 7.0 in the beta version.
    >
    > Any and all comments, opinions would be appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    >
    >
     
    Guest, Aug 28, 2006
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  7. MereGoddess

    kes Guest

    Ed Mullen wrote:
    > gwtc wrote:
    >> MereGoddess wrote:
    >>> Hi
    >>>
    >>> I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would
    >>> like
    >>> some opinions if you have them.
    >>>
    >>> 1. Basic. Does it work? lol

    >>
    >> No ;-) lol
    >>

    >
    > Cute. But, yes, it works.
    >
    >>> 2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall
    >>> explorer?

    >>
    >> Yes and no
    >>

    >
    > Huh? Please elaborate. In what way are IE and FF either
    > incompatible
    > or not able to co-exist on a Windows system?


    It is a two-part question (with a two part answer). It is saying FF
    and IE are not incompatible.
     
    kes, Aug 28, 2006
    #7
  8. MereGoddess

    Jim Scott Guest

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:20:15 -0400, MereGoddess wrote:

    > Hi
    >
    > I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like some
    > opinions if you have them.
    >
    > 1. Basic. Does it work? lol
    > 2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?
    > 3. Does it run smoothly, or does it have bugs?
    > 4. Do you like it better than IE?
    >
    > I really would like to try it as it seems my IE has corrupted files that I
    > haven't been able to fix and I really didn't want to have to re install it
    > or try IE 7.0 in the beta version.
    >
    > Any and all comments, opinions would be appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks!


    I have been reading the other replies to this post and was appalled at the
    stupid - clever-dicks who tried to show how smart they are. If you first
    language is not English then you might not have understood some of them.

    Yes it works, and usually works as well as IE.
    It probably has bugs, but no more than any other program.
    These days most sites will work perfectly with FF but once in a while you
    will find one that needs IE.
    I like it better than IE

    You can run them together without any problem

    There is a small learning curve.
    If you wish to use them, there are extensions to add stuff that some people
    like and other don't. The only one that I cannot do without is one called
    AdBlock to .. block ads.
    You can install and uninstall at will and it will remember you from last
    time in a 'profile' unless you delete that too.
    Go on. Enjoy yourself.
    --
    Jim S
    Tyneside UK
    http://www.jimscott.co.uk
     
    Jim Scott, Aug 28, 2006
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  9. MereGoddess

    Guest

    Le 27/08/2006 22:20, MereGoddess a ecrit :
    > Hi
    >
    > I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like some
    > opinions if you have them.
    >
    > 1. Basic. Does it work? lol
    > 2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?
    > 3. Does it run smoothly, or does it have bugs?
    > 4. Do you like it better than IE?
    >
    > I really would like to try it as it seems my IE has corrupted files that I
    > haven't been able to fix and I really didn't want to have to re install it
    > or try IE 7.0 in the beta version.
    >
    > Any and all comments, opinions would be appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    >


    Others have already commented about your questions, just a few
    observations about strong advantages that others haven't mentionned.

    Firefox has some strong advantages that won't disappear when IE7 is
    released, maybe these advantages don't apply to your current situations
    but they may be relevant in the future for you.

    1/ Firefox is multiplatform. You will find Firefox for about any modern
    Operating System in existence. The Mozilla Corporation provides firefox
    for Windows (98 to Vista), Linux (all flavours) and Mac. You will also
    find versions for exotic systems like BeOs or openSolaris. it is the
    same Firefox with very minor adjustments to fit into the environment it
    lives in, for instance the Options panel is called Preferences in Linux
    and is in the Edit menu because all Linux applications have it this way.
    Internet Explorer 7 will only work with Windows XP2/Vista (with a legal
    Windows licence), not even their own Windows 2000 system although still
    used by many people. The browser has become the most used application in
    the world, basically people do everything with a browser now (email,
    forums, banking...). Using firefox means that you will be able to change
    of OS (temporarily in a cybercafé or permanently because you want to)
    much more easily.

    2/ Firefox is technically waaaaaay more modern than internet Explorer 7.
    Microsoft abandonned the development of Internet Explorer 6 in 2001 when
    it got 95%+ market share and netscape was no more. They decided for the
    user that the web was 'good enough' for them, especially since they
    weren't paying for this software. The IE development team was dissolved,
    the Mac version was abandonned as well as the Unix version. Meanwhile,
    the Mozilla Foundation was hard at work building the foundations for the
    next generation browser, releasing new versions every three to six
    months, gathering feedback, hiring the best web specialists in the
    world. Consecuently, mostly thanks to word of mouth because 2 years ago
    the Mozilla project had no money to promote itself, Firefox gained tens
    of millions of users who just wanted something better than IE. Microsoft
    recreated a development team last year to stop market-share loss, hacked
    it's old engine and copied the most visible end users features from
    Firefox 1.0 (tabs, better security model, add-ons management, a working
    text zoom...). Does it make of Internet Explorer a modern engine ? No.
    It makes it a "good enough" engine for the average user, but it is still
    mostly a bug fix release of their old 1999 engine (called Trident,
    Firefox' engine is called Gecko). For example, Firefox' multiplatform
    capabilities is just one of the side effect of the modernity of its
    engine. INE7 is a bugfix release, it remains to be seen if IE8 will be
    another bugfix release or if they will rewrite it from scratch. There is
    a poin when improving the old code is more difficult than rewriting
    everything from scratch, something the mozilla project experienced in
    1999 when they decided to dump all the Netcape 5 code they had inherited
    to create gecko.

    3/ One of Firefox strenghs is its extensibility. Many people choose
    Firefox because of the hundreds of extensions that exist for it.
    Internet Explorer con be extended in some way but its design makes it
    extremeky difficult to write any serious extension for it, for 1
    Internet Explorer extension, you will probably find 50 Firefox
    extensions. I should also mentionned that 99% of Firefox extensions are
    totally free, while many IE extensions are not free. Firefox is also
    themeable, you can install firefox with a cute theme for the kids or a
    minimalist interface to save screen space on your laptop.

    4/ Firefox extensibility makes it easy to localize (translate and adapt
    to a specific language). Currently Firefox is available in 37 languages,
    Internet Explorer 7 will be perhaps available in 10 languages at best
    and you can't switch languages. When I have Spanish family at home, I
    just switch the language of Firefox to Spanish with two clicks and this
    way they can use it in their language. Maybe it doesn't count for a
    native English speaker, but it does for 90% of the world population ;)

    5/ Being an opensource project, the users are deeply involved in the
    project, they can chat directly to the developpers, give their feedback,
    propose enhancements... If you like to socialize, that's a good way to
    make friends :) I am not sure that one of IE objectives is to create a
    friendly community, organize parties, picnics and generally have fun ;)

    6/ One of the things we are sure of, is that Firefox users will never be
    abandonned like IE users in 2001. The project being led by a
    not-for-profit organisation, it is working directly in the interests of
    the users and not to earn or save money. Microsoft decided to stop
    development of IE in 2001 because they had market monopoly and the web
    stagnation was in the interest of the company (in short, web
    applications like Google's are a threat to Windows application because
    you just need to have a browser to access them, a browser that can be on
    a competitor's OS). Today Microsoft is working on IE7 because they want
    to stop the market-share hemorragy and make sure the web becomes a kind
    of extension to Windows, they also need a strong selling point for
    end-user as an incentive to switch to Vista because most of the cool
    Vista features have been cancelled.

    In short : Firefox is cool, modern and has a future (version 2 will be
    released soon and people are already working on the next Firefox 3).
    Internet Explorer is a good catchup feature-wise, it will appeal to
    current IE6 users who have never seen an alternative and feel better in
    a Microsoft only environment.

    You can try it, it is a small download and unlike IE, you can uninstall
    it if you don't like it :)

    Pascal
     
    , Aug 28, 2006
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  10. MereGoddess

    Ed Mullen Guest

    gwtc wrote:
    > Ed Mullen wrote:
    >> gwtc wrote:
    >>> MereGoddess wrote:
    >>>> Hi
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like
    >>>> some opinions if you have them.
    >>>>
    >>>> 1. Basic. Does it work? lol
    >>>
    >>> No ;-) lol
    >>>

    >>
    >> Cute. But, yes, it works.

    >
    > didn't you see my little winkie :p
    >
    >>
    >>>> 2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?
    >>>
    >>> Yes and no
    >>>

    >>
    >> Huh? Please elaborate. In what way are IE and FF either incompatible
    >> or not able to co-exist on a Windows system?
    >>

    > I said yes and no. Yes you can run it AND explorer, and no you don't
    > have to uninstall explorer.
    >


    Duh. Reading too fast again. Sigh. ;-)

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    Ed Mullen, Aug 28, 2006
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  11. MereGoddess

    Guest

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:20:15 -0400, "MereGoddess"
    <> wrote:

    >Hi
    >
    >I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like some
    >opinions if you have them.
    >
    >1. Basic. Does it work? lol
    >2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?
    >3. Does it run smoothly, or does it have bugs?
    >4. Do you like it better than IE?
    >
    >I really would like to try it as it seems my IE has corrupted files that I
    >haven't been able to fix and I really didn't want to have to re install it
    >or try IE 7.0 in the beta version.
    >
    >Any and all comments, opinions would be appreciated.
    >
    >Thanks!
    >


    Others answered your Firefox questions, but no one told you how to fix
    IE.

    Go to My Computer / Control panel / Add-Remove Programs
    Scroll down to Microsoft Internet Explorer.
    Click the REMOVE button
    This will NOT remove IE. It will bring up a window to FIX it.
    Let it run, and it will want you to reboot at the end. So close all
    other software.

    You might need your windows install CD unless you got them on your
    harddrive. (like I do).

    I like Firefox, but I have been having troubles with it crashing
    lately. I am trying to fix it, but I also use IE. Many people on
    here really cut down IE, and I can understand that this is a Firefox /
    Mozilla newsgroup, so they want to promote it. But we all have IE on
    our computers if we use MS Windows, and love it or hate it, it's still
    there. IE is integrated into Windows, so it cant be removed. IE has
    it's flaws and bugs, and its a security risk, but I still use it.
    Firefox works, but it too has flaws, and seems to crash easier, at
    least thats been my biggest complaint about it. Yet, I like the way
    firefox works, much better than IE (when it works). If it was not for
    the crashing, I'd give FF the thumbs up almost 100%. The only other
    disadvantage of FF is that it takes much more hands on tinkering than
    IE. Some people seem to like that. Myself, I hate having to spend
    time with stuff like that. I just want to go on the web and forget
    about the computer. One other thing, IE has one advantage, it loads
    much faster than FF. Thats why I use FF if I am doing a serious web
    session, but if I just want to view a link from an email, I use IE
    because I dont want to wait for FF to load.

    KN
     
    , Aug 29, 2006
    #11
  12. On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:03:10 -0500, wrote:

    > Others answered your Firefox questions, but no one told you how to fix
    > IE.
    >
    > Go to My Computer / Control panel / Add-Remove Programs
    > Scroll down to Microsoft Internet Explorer.
    > Click the REMOVE button
    > This will NOT remove IE. It will bring up a window to FIX it.
    > Let it run, and it will want you to reboot at the end. So close all
    > other software.
    >
    > You might need your windows install CD unless you got them on your
    > harddrive. (like I do).
    >
    > I like Firefox, but I have been having troubles with it crashing
    > lately. I am trying to fix it, but I also use IE. Many people on
    > here really cut down IE, and I can understand that this is a Firefox /
    > Mozilla newsgroup, so they want to promote it. But we all have IE on
    > our computers if we use MS Windows, and love it or hate it, it's still
    > there. IE is integrated into Windows, so it cant be removed.


    IE can be removed. One of my 98 systems does not have IE on it at all. I
    used 98lite to remove mine and never had a problem in something like the
    last 5 or 6 years. See either of these:

    http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator.html
    http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html

    Since not all systems are the same, I do recommend backing up before
    removing IE. I can imagine situations where someone could kill their OS if
    something goes wrong, but it's not likely.

    > IE has
    > it's flaws and bugs, and its a security risk, but I still use it.
    > Firefox works, but it too has flaws, and seems to crash easier, at
    > least thats been my biggest complaint about it. Yet, I like the way
    > firefox works, much better than IE (when it works). If it was not for
    > the crashing, I'd give FF the thumbs up almost 100%. The only other
    > disadvantage of FF is that it takes much more hands on tinkering than
    > IE. Some people seem to like that. Myself, I hate having to spend
    > time with stuff like that. I just want to go on the web and forget
    > about the computer. One other thing, IE has one advantage, it loads
    > much faster than FF.


    That's partially fixable. IE does have the advantage in this area though.
    Most of it's required components are loaded when you start Windows, which
    is why Windows can be slow to start. Because so much of IE is already
    loaded, it appears to start quicker when you click to open it.

    To speed up firefox, it is always good to reduce the amount of unneeded
    extensions and themes. Just keep what you actually use. Reduce you history
    from the default down to just a few days, unless you really need it longer.
    Set the download manager to remove "Upon successful download." On slow
    systems, Firefox will close faster if you reduce the disk cache size to
    something like 16 megs. My Firefox starts in about 4 to 7 seconds using
    Win98se on a 233Mhz P2 with 64 megs RAM. Before making all these changes,
    it took around 35 to 40 seconds to start.

    My other system, that has no IE on it boots in just 13 seconds! It's the
    same CPU as this one that takes just over a minute to boot. I attribute the
    difference mainly to the fact that the fast one isn't trying to load IE
    components every time it boots.

    > Thats why I use FF if I am doing a serious web
    > session, but if I just want to view a link from an email, I use IE
    > because I dont want to wait for FF to load.


    Does it take long to load for you after the first time? Mine might take up
    to 7 seconds the first time it is opened during a Windows session, but it's
    usually about 4 seconds for any successive openings.
     
    FoxWolfie Galen, Aug 29, 2006
    #12
  13. On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:47:23 -0500, wrote:

    > I should caution about that IEradicate. I used it a few years ago on
    > Win98SE. I had system problems after using it.


    Which is way I suggested backing up first. I actually never used the
    IEradicate program. I used 98Lite instead. It removed IE without many
    problems. I had to update a couple dlls to get something to install a
    couple times after I did it, but that was all within the first month. After
    that, everything stabilized and that system has been running for years
    without trouble since then.

    > So, I guess I was a little deceiving when I said you cant remove IE.
    > In reality, part of IE is still loading, but the browser itself can be
    > removed. Like I said, I wont recommend it though.


    I generally don't recommend it either unless someone has made backups, and
    they know what they're doing. It can result in a small and fast OS, but is
    a bit too aggressive on what it takes out. Finding and replacing needed
    dlls for nearly a month is not something most people are willing to do. I
    only did it on one of my computers. I wanted to keep IE around on the
    other, just in case. It isn't needed often, but a few things like windoze
    updates are easier with it. Even then, I usually just found the updates I
    needed by searching through the Microsoft download site with Firefox.

    I learned not to use most Microsoft updates, unless they claimed to address
    a problem I was actually having. The worst was that darned "map network
    drives" update. It caused the problem it was supposed to prevent, and lots
    more. I learned quickly how to remove that one. It would not surprise me if
    Microsoft put out updates for Win98, toward the end of it's life-cycle,
    that they knew would cause subtle problems, in order to nudge more people
    into moving to 2000 or XP.
     
    FoxWolfie Galen, Aug 30, 2006
    #13
  14. MereGoddess

    gwtc Guest

    FoxWolfie Galen wrote:
    > It would not surprise me if
    > Microsoft put out updates for Win98, toward the end of it's life-cycle,
    > that they knew would cause subtle problems, in order to nudge more people
    > into moving to 2000 or XP.

    well, you guessed wrong. They put out dick-all. MS had abandoned
    win98 a long time ago. Way before it end of its life cycle

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    gwtc, Aug 30, 2006
    #14
  15. MereGoddess

    Guest

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:12:16 -0400, FoxWolfie Galen
    <> wrote:

    >On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:03:10 -0500, wrote:
    >
    >> Others answered your Firefox questions, but no one told you how to fix
    >> IE.
    >>
    >> Go to My Computer / Control panel / Add-Remove Programs
    >> Scroll down to Microsoft Internet Explorer.
    >> Click the REMOVE button
    >> This will NOT remove IE. It will bring up a window to FIX it.
    >> Let it run, and it will want you to reboot at the end. So close all
    >> other software.
    >>
    >> You might need your windows install CD unless you got them on your
    >> harddrive. (like I do).
    >>
    >> I like Firefox, but I have been having troubles with it crashing
    >> lately. I am trying to fix it, but I also use IE. Many people on
    >> here really cut down IE, and I can understand that this is a Firefox /
    >> Mozilla newsgroup, so they want to promote it. But we all have IE on
    >> our computers if we use MS Windows, and love it or hate it, it's still
    >> there. IE is integrated into Windows, so it cant be removed.

    >
    >IE can be removed. One of my 98 systems does not have IE on it at all. I
    >used 98lite to remove mine and never had a problem in something like the
    >last 5 or 6 years. See either of these:
    >
    > http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator.html
    > http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html
    >
    >Since not all systems are the same, I do recommend backing up before
    >removing IE. I can imagine situations where someone could kill their OS if
    >something goes wrong, but it's not likely.
    >
    >> IE has
    >> it's flaws and bugs, and its a security risk, but I still use it.
    >> Firefox works, but it too has flaws, and seems to crash easier, at
    >> least thats been my biggest complaint about it. Yet, I like the way
    >> firefox works, much better than IE (when it works). If it was not for
    >> the crashing, I'd give FF the thumbs up almost 100%. The only other
    >> disadvantage of FF is that it takes much more hands on tinkering than
    >> IE. Some people seem to like that. Myself, I hate having to spend
    >> time with stuff like that. I just want to go on the web and forget
    >> about the computer. One other thing, IE has one advantage, it loads
    >> much faster than FF.

    >
    >That's partially fixable. IE does have the advantage in this area though.
    >Most of it's required components are loaded when you start Windows, which
    >is why Windows can be slow to start. Because so much of IE is already
    >loaded, it appears to start quicker when you click to open it.
    >
    >To speed up firefox, it is always good to reduce the amount of unneeded
    >extensions and themes. Just keep what you actually use. Reduce you history
    >from the default down to just a few days, unless you really need it longer.
    >Set the download manager to remove "Upon successful download." On slow
    >systems, Firefox will close faster if you reduce the disk cache size to
    >something like 16 megs. My Firefox starts in about 4 to 7 seconds using
    >Win98se on a 233Mhz P2 with 64 megs RAM. Before making all these changes,
    >it took around 35 to 40 seconds to start.
    >
    >My other system, that has no IE on it boots in just 13 seconds! It's the
    >same CPU as this one that takes just over a minute to boot. I attribute the
    >difference mainly to the fact that the fast one isn't trying to load IE
    >components every time it boots.
    >
    >> Thats why I use FF if I am doing a serious web
    >> session, but if I just want to view a link from an email, I use IE
    >> because I dont want to wait for FF to load.

    >
    >Does it take long to load for you after the first time? Mine might take up
    >to 7 seconds the first time it is opened during a Windows session, but it's
    >usually about 4 seconds for any successive openings.


    No, it loads quickly once I initially got FF started. That's why I
    said if I am doing some serious web browsing I used FF, but for a
    quickie link, use IE.

    Thanks for all the helpful tips.

    I should caution about that IEradicate. I used it a few years ago on
    Win98SE. I had system problems after using it. To be real honest, I
    can no longer remember just what happened except I know my desktop got
    all screwed up, but there were other problems too. I ended up
    reinstalling IE. (I never really planned to get rid of it anyhow, I
    just had a bug in IE that kept re-occuring even after running the "IE
    fixer". Using that IEradicate and reinstalling solved the problem,
    but like I said, it caused others. I do recall having to run "Windows
    Install" afterwards. I didnt start over, just installed on top of
    what was there.

    So, I guess I was a little deceiving when I said you cant remove IE.
    In reality, part of IE is still loading, but the browser itself can be
    removed. Like I said, I wont recommend it though.

    KN
     
    , Aug 30, 2006
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  16. MereGoddess

    Splibbilla Guest

    "MereGoddess" <> in
    news::

    > Hi
    >
    > I'm thinking of installing firefox and trying it out. I would like
    > some opinions if you have them.
    >
    > 1. Basic. Does it work? lol


    a lot of us claim it does, but it's also possible none of us exist. :)

    > 2. Can you run it AND explorer or do I have to uninstall explorer?

    they have no effect on each other AFAIK, except at first run, all browsers ask: "do you want XXX to be your default browser?"
    "click this checkbox if you dont want XXXX to ask you this again."

    > 3. Does it run smoothly, or does it have bugs?

    everything has faults. ff has the best balance of convneninet features and irritations for me.
    anyway, if you notice lots of bugs, you can feed them to your kid's gecko, yes?

    > 4. Do you like it better than IE?


    hard to believe how annoying ie6 should have been now that i've been using tabbed browsers.

    ie6 is old and ossified!!! 2001 era, at best.

    > I really would like to try it as it seems my IE has corrupted files


    oh my. corruption from within.
    revolt.

    > that I haven't been able to fix and I really didn't want to have to re
    > install it or try IE 7.0 in the beta version.


    regarding familiarity, i suspect *using* ie7 will be as different from ie6 as firefox is diff from ie6. so ie7 won't have any learning
    curve advantage.
    i guess that ie7 will still use favorites, and th'as probably the only significant carryover (i wonder how much ie7
    security/privacy ui will differ from ie6's?)

    > Any and all comments, opinions would be appreciated.


    just get the current ff 1.5.0.6
    and regularly backup your profile.

    > Thanks!



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  17. MereGoddess

    Splibbilla Guest

    Splibbilla, Sep 5, 2006
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  18. MereGoddess

    Splibbilla Guest

    gwtc <7yjsIFfetn> in news:ect0kt$1m5l$:

    >> 2. Can you run it AND explorer



    simultaneously sometimes, when dealing with bizarre stubborn sites.. last year one website required hopscotching from ff, to ie.
    then further on the website balked, and i had to drag that back to firefox. whew!
     
    Splibbilla, Sep 5, 2006
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