mydoom and AVG

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by XPD, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. XPD

    XPD Guest

    Warning for anyone running AVG.....

    AVG does NOT appear to kill/stop mydoom.

    Ive got latest def files etc for it and what do you know... MyDoom still
    infected my system and AVG wouldnt do a damn thing to stop it. Wouldnt even
    move it to the virus vault.
    Ill be reviewing my choice of AV program now....

    Thank you Symantec for your removal tools....
    XPD, Feb 5, 2004
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  2. XPD

    colinco Guest

    In article <>,
    says...
    > Warning for anyone running AVG.....
    >
    > AVG does NOT appear to kill/stop mydoom.
    >
    > Ive got latest def files etc for it and what do you know... MyDoom still
    > infected my system and AVG wouldnt do a damn thing to stop it. Wouldnt even
    > move it to the virus vault.
    > Ill be reviewing my choice of AV program now....
    >
    > Thank you Symantec for your removal tools....
    >
    >
    >

    It certainly does stop some variations of Mydoom. Which variant did you
    open?
    colinco, Feb 5, 2004
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  3. XPD wrote:
    > Warning for anyone running AVG.....
    > AVG does NOT appear to kill/stop mydoom.
    > Ive got latest def files etc for it and what do you know... MyDoom still
    > infected my system and AVG wouldnt do a damn thing to stop it. Wouldnt even
    > move it to the virus vault.
    > Ill be reviewing my choice of AV program now....


    So you opened an attachment from a presumably unknown person, and you
    got infected...

    and this is somehow your AV fault?

    bwaaahahahahahhahahahahha
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    T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz, Feb 5, 2004
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  4. On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:27:13 +1300, "XPD"
    <> wrote:

    >Warning for anyone running AVG.....
    >
    >AVG does NOT appear to kill/stop mydoom.


    Surely not opening dodgy attachments will kill/stop mydoom.

    Did you get it by accident or did you like one of the screen savers
    provided in the e-mail. LOL.


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    Kristofer Clayton, Feb 5, 2004
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  5. XPD

    Lebowski Guest

    "XPD" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Warning for anyone running AVG.....
    >
    > AVG does NOT appear to kill/stop mydoom.
    >
    > Ive got latest def files etc for it and what do you know... MyDoom still
    > infected my system and AVG wouldnt do a damn thing to stop it. Wouldnt

    even
    > move it to the virus vault.
    > Ill be reviewing my choice of AV program now....
    >
    > Thank you Symantec for your removal tools....
    >
    >


    Oh and then people on other threads start going on about how AVG is so much
    better and Nortons is the devil incarnate! Of course it's just their own
    personal perception (probably tainted by
    big-business-versus-the-honest-little-guy viewpoint), but it really annoys
    me how people slag Nortons yet it's the Nortons users who are the happiest
    people of them all, and never actually get a virus. That's because:

    1- they have auto-protect on (if it slows down your pc, then you are
    probably suffering from the pc equivalent of hypochondria! - alternatively,
    get a new pc!!)
    and

    2 - Symantec Live Update is always on the ball quick as a flash, so we
    never need to worry about such things as mydoom etc. The people who don't
    use Nortons are the paranoid ones whom don't bother to open any email
    attachments and they're also probably too scared to go to the loo in case a
    cheekie darkie from the abyss leaps out and throws mud at them!

    Heaven bless Symantec. Nortons is the best.
    Lebowski, Feb 6, 2004
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  6. XPD

    XPD Guest

    "XPD" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Warning for anyone running AVG.....
    >
    > AVG does NOT appear to kill/stop mydoom.
    >
    > Ive got latest def files etc for it and what do you know... MyDoom still
    > infected my system and AVG wouldnt do a damn thing to stop it. Wouldnt

    even
    > move it to the virus vault.
    > Ill be reviewing my choice of AV program now....
    >
    > Thank you Symantec for your removal tools....
    >
    >


    FYI : I DONT open attachments, and nor does my mail client. Its weird how it
    got out.
    XPD, Feb 6, 2004
    #6
  7. XPD

    Gurble Guest

    On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:15:37 +1300, "Lebowski"
    <> had this to say:
    >
    >"XPD" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> Warning for anyone running AVG.....
    >>
    >> AVG does NOT appear to kill/stop mydoom.
    >>
    >> Thank you Symantec for your removal tools....
    >>
    >>

    >
    >Oh and then people on other threads start going on about how AVG is so much
    >better and Nortons is the devil incarnate! Of course it's just their own
    >personal perception (probably tainted by
    >big-business-versus-the-honest-little-guy viewpoint), but it really annoys
    >me how people slag Nortons yet it's the Nortons users who are the happiest
    >people of them all, and never actually get a virus. That's because:
    >
    >1- they have auto-protect on (if it slows down your pc, then you are
    >probably suffering from the pc equivalent of hypochondria! - alternatively,
    >get a new pc!!)
    > and
    >
    >2 - Symantec Live Update is always on the ball quick as a flash, so we
    >never need to worry about such things as mydoom etc. The people who don't
    >use Nortons are the paranoid ones whom don't bother to open any email
    >attachments and they're also probably too scared to go to the loo in case a
    >cheekie darkie from the abyss leaps out and throws mud at them!
    >
    >Heaven bless Symantec. Nortons is the best.
    >

    Yep, quite right.

    AVG is better than nothing, but like it or not, Norton have millions
    to invest in making sure they are the first out with definitions.

    AVG is suited for those that don't want to invest in protecting their
    PC, and in that regard, it's a hell of a lot better than nothing.

    However, it's free, and as the old saying goes - "you pay for what you
    get".
    Gurble, Feb 6, 2004
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  8. XPD

    GraB Guest

    >>Heaven bless Symantec. Nortons is the best.
    >>

    >Yep, quite right.
    >
    >AVG is better than nothing, but like it or not, Norton have millions
    >to invest in making sure they are the first out with definitions.


    Really? I found a new virus last year, sent it to AVG and Symantec.
    AVG said it would be covered in their next update but it was a few
    weeks before Nortons detected it. In fact the first response I got
    from them about it was that they didn't find any malicious code in it!
    By putting it through SuperSnooper I could see the malicious code
    plainly.

    Different AV progs perform differently on different viruses. Which is
    why some recommend the use of more than one AV prog.

    >
    >AVG is suited for those that don't want to invest in protecting their
    >PC, and in that regard, it's a hell of a lot better than nothing.
    >
    >However, it's free, and as the old saying goes - "you pay for what you
    >get".
    GraB, Feb 6, 2004
    #8
  9. In article <>,
    says...
    >
    > Different AV progs perform differently on different viruses. Which is
    > why some recommend the use of more than one AV prog.
    >


    Too right. I have Norton AV installed and running and updated, but
    McAffee online scan found a virus on my c drive that Norton never
    spotted (it was sitting in an attached file in the Pegasus mail
    database; even so...) What's more, it was years old (in terms of
    written), not a brand new one..

    -Peter
    Peter Huebner, Feb 6, 2004
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  10. XPD wrote:
    > FYI : I DONT open attachments, and nor does my mail client. Its weird how it
    > got out.


    So, how'd you get it then? P2P?

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  11. XPD

    Lebowski Guest

    "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz" <> wrote in
    message news:2VDUb.35564$...
    > XPD wrote:
    > > FYI : I DONT open attachments, and nor does my mail client. Its weird

    how it
    > > got out.

    >
    > So, how'd you get it then? P2P?
    >


    It was supposed to be doing the rounds on Kazaa! But people stupid enough to
    download such small items on there (usually keygen crack thingees disguised
    as viruses) deserve to get lumbered with it!
    Lebowski, Feb 6, 2004
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  12. XPD

    XPD Guest

    "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz" <> wrote in
    message news:2VDUb.35564$...
    > XPD wrote:
    > > FYI : I DONT open attachments, and nor does my mail client. Its weird

    how it
    > > got out.

    >
    > So, how'd you get it then? P2P?


    God knows... jsut wondering if my mail client does something weird with
    attachments and thats whats caused it to appear...
    Anyway, its gone now, new AV software in place. Just disappointed that AVG
    didnt prevent it from activating.

    Shit happens... life goes on :)
    XPD, Feb 6, 2004
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  13. Have a look here
    http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?avg.xml

    Not a good record for Grisoft

    And Norton aint without sin. They once took 2 days too put out a sig update that would
    detect the latest virus doing the rounds. Generally they are pretty good.
    However NAV seems to be getting far to cluttered & complex(adding more features
    to entice unneeded upgrades)

    CAI put out a good AV/firewall package for free (ETrust EZ, you may recognise it
    when you see it, Its been called a few brand names). IT WONT SCAN EMAILS: so
    be carefull.
    Steve Robertson, Feb 6, 2004
    #13

  14. >Too right. I have Norton AV installed and running and updated, but
    >McAffee online scan found a virus on my c drive that Norton never
    >spotted (it was sitting in an attached file in the Pegasus mail


    Some 'viruses' are actually just joke files & give false positives (as does the CMOS reseting
    program) Quite often the AV's confiquration isnt checked: & therefore may not scan all file or
    compressed files

    Of all the AV programs Ive seen, only 2 will scan inside pst or dbx/mbx mail files :very very poor.
    You clean the virus off the PC & its still in your email. AV programs are still generally not that
    good at completely cleaning the PC either (usually has to done manually in safe mode)
    Steve Robertson, Feb 6, 2004
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  15. XPD

    CollectorNZ Guest

    Gurble wrote:

    > On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:15:37 +1300, "Lebowski"
    > <> had this to say:
    >
    >>"XPD" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>
    >>>Warning for anyone running AVG.....
    >>>
    >>>AVG does NOT appear to kill/stop mydoom.
    >>>
    >>>Thank you Symantec for your removal tools....
    >>>

    .......Snip
    >
    > AVG is suited for those that don't want to invest in protecting their
    > PC, and in that regard, it's a hell of a lot better than nothing.
    >
    > However, it's free, and as the old saying goes - "you pay for what you
    > get".

    How ever it is not free, but there is a free version which is always one
    behind the current release.

    I have experiance of both, I use both, never had a problem, I also have
    nortons on some machines, again no problem.
    AVG and Nortons have not missed anything yet.
    CollectorNZ, Feb 6, 2004
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  16. XPD

    Mainlander Guest

    In article <>,
    says...
    >
    > "XPD" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Warning for anyone running AVG.....
    > >
    > > AVG does NOT appear to kill/stop mydoom.
    > >
    > > Ive got latest def files etc for it and what do you know... MyDoom still
    > > infected my system and AVG wouldnt do a damn thing to stop it. Wouldnt

    > even
    > > move it to the virus vault.
    > > Ill be reviewing my choice of AV program now....
    > >
    > > Thank you Symantec for your removal tools....
    > >
    > >

    >
    > FYI : I DONT open attachments, and nor does my mail client. Its weird how it
    > got out.


    And you mail client is a Microsoft one, let me guess

    If you are going to use MS crap software, then you have to keep updating
    it because of all the security holes in it.

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    Mainlander, Feb 6, 2004
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  17. Mainlander wrote:
    >>FYI : I DONT open attachments, and nor does my mail client. Its weird how it
    >>got out.


    > And you mail client is a Microsoft one, let me guess
    > If you are going to use MS crap software, then you have to keep updating
    > it because of all the security holes in it.


    It doesn't matter who makes the software... you should always patch holes.

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    Enkidu Guest

    On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 08:14:02 GMT, (Steve Robertson)
    wrote:

    >
    >>Too right. I have Norton AV installed and running and updated, but
    >>McAffee online scan found a virus on my c drive that Norton never
    >>spotted (it was sitting in an attached file in the Pegasus mail

    >
    >Some 'viruses' are actually just joke files & give false positives (as
    >does the CMOS reseting program) Quite often the AV's confiquration
    >isnt checked: & therefore may not scan all file or compressed files
    >
    >Of all the AV programs Ive seen, only 2 will scan inside pst or
    >dbx/mbx mail files :very very poor. You clean the virus off the PC &
    >its still in your email.
    >

    Not a problem. You try and view an infected email, you get a message
    that the email contains a virus.

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    --

    I think that Don Brash is a Labour mole.
    That would explain everything.
    Enkidu, Feb 6, 2004
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  19. XPD

    Enkidu Guest

    On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 08:03:22 GMT, (Steve Robertson)
    wrote:

    >Have a look here
    >http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?avg.xml
    >
    >Not a good record for Grisoft
    >

    I've had gazzilons of problems with Grisoft. Won't detect viruses,
    won't update. It's free, you get what you pay for, I guess,

    Cheers,

    Cliff
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    I think that Don Brash is a Labour mole.
    That would explain everything.
    Enkidu, Feb 6, 2004
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  20. On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 15:41:26 +1300, Gurble wrote:

    > AVG is better than nothing, but like it or not, Norton have millions
    > to invest in making sure they are the first out with definitions.


    F-prot is better than both and the command-line version is free for home
    use.

    The winblows version is US$20 per 5 machines, per year - a very reasonable
    price. $40 gets you 20 machine support.

    COmpare and contrast to quantity licensing for all the other packages.
    Uncle StoatWarbler, Feb 6, 2004
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