My work situation

Discussion in 'MCSE' started by justdoit, Jun 23, 2005.

  1. justdoit

    justdoit Guest

    I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    have to take a clerical job to make a living.

    I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    a day. However, I have to finish all my work.

    The work for my job turns out to be enormous. I have to
    cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    stay one hour late to get the work done. My co-workers who
    have the same position are doing the same. But they seems
    all fine with it. I never questioned them though since I'm
    new. But I realize that we all might be needing the job and
    the small salary that we don't want to say anything.

    This is my first clerical job. I didn't know it's like
    this. I'm fine with the somewhat low pay, but I don't like
    it that I have to cut my lunch hour and taking no breaks and
    staying late and being busy all day. Is this real with most
    of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    companies. I need someone to tell me about it.
     
    justdoit, Jun 23, 2005
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  2. justdoit

    kpg Guest

    And 1.3 billion Chinese don't give a damn.

    Stop crying you little baby and get back to work.
     
    kpg, Jun 23, 2005
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  3. justdoit

    Zed Guest

    Do you have any of this in writting? If not, why not? You can either
    negotiate a better deal for yourself, or threaten to sue over breach of
    contract... If you start taking shit from people and don't have any self
    respect... well bend over and get out the lube. Most people have to fight in
    life, what's your excuse?

    "justdoit" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    > have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >
    > I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    > who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    > Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    > minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    > a day. However, I have to finish all my work.
    >
    > The work for my job turns out to be enormous. I have to
    > cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    > stay one hour late to get the work done. My co-workers who
    > have the same position are doing the same. But they seems
    > all fine with it. I never questioned them though since I'm
    > new. But I realize that we all might be needing the job and
    > the small salary that we don't want to say anything.
    >
    > This is my first clerical job. I didn't know it's like
    > this. I'm fine with the somewhat low pay, but I don't like
    > it that I have to cut my lunch hour and taking no breaks and
    > staying late and being busy all day. Is this real with most
    > of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    > they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    > companies. I need someone to tell me about it.
     
    Zed, Jun 23, 2005
    #3
  4. justdoit

    T-Bone Guest

    "justdoit" <> wrote
    > I have to
    > cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    > stay one hour late to get the work done.


    Consider it prep for working in IT.
    --
    T-Bone
    MCNGP XL
     
    T-Bone, Jun 23, 2005
    #4
  5. justdoit

    fygar Guest

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:24:50 GMT, justdoit <> wrote:

    >I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    >have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >
    >I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    >who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    >Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    >minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    >a day. However, I have to finish all my work.
    >
    >The work for my job turns out to be enormous. I have to
    >cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    >stay one hour late to get the work done. My co-workers who
    >have the same position are doing the same. But they seems
    >all fine with it. I never questioned them though since I'm
    >new. But I realize that we all might be needing the job and
    >the small salary that we don't want to say anything.
    >
    >This is my first clerical job. I didn't know it's like
    >this. I'm fine with the somewhat low pay, but I don't like
    >it that I have to cut my lunch hour and taking no breaks and
    >staying late and being busy all day. Is this real with most
    >of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    >they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    >companies. I need someone to tell me about it.



    Welcome to the real world. Learn to be more efficient.

    ....butch(now get back to work)
     
    fygar, Jun 23, 2005
    #5
  6. justdoit

    Grog in Ohio Guest

    "justdoit" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    > have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >
    > I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    > who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    > Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    > minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    > a day. However, I have to finish all my work.


    $100/8 hours = $12.50/hour or even $100/10 hours = $10.00/hour.... ask any
    slub working at a fast food joint or bagging groceries if he'd like to trade
    jobs with you.

    Stay in school, get some credentials and qualifications THEN get a job that
    pays you what you're worth.

    Grog
     
    Grog in Ohio, Jun 23, 2005
    #6
  7. justdoit

    James Guest

    yeah, get an IT degree, then you can make the big bucks!!
    like $13/hr if your lucky!!

    "Grog in Ohio" <> wrote in message
    news:%23$6$am$...
    >
    > "justdoit" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    >> have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >>
    >> I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    >> who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    >> Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    >> minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    >> a day. However, I have to finish all my work.

    >
    > $100/8 hours = $12.50/hour or even $100/10 hours = $10.00/hour.... ask any
    > slub working at a fast food joint or bagging groceries if he'd like to
    > trade jobs with you.
    >
    > Stay in school, get some credentials and qualifications THEN get a job
    > that pays you what you're worth.
    >
    > Grog
    >
    >
     
    James, Jun 23, 2005
    #7
  8. justdoit

    Kline Sphere Guest

    >yeah, get an IT degree, then you can make the big bucks!!

    or better still become a lawyer!

    Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
     
    Kline Sphere, Jun 23, 2005
    #8
  9. justdoit

    Kline Sphere Guest

    >Is this real with most
    >of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    >they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    >companies. I need someone to tell me about it.


    Why not become a courier for some columbian drug lord?

    Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
     
    Kline Sphere, Jun 23, 2005
    #9
  10. justdoit

    LnkWizard Guest

    "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
    news:...
    > >Is this real with most
    > >of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    > >they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    > >companies. I need someone to tell me about it.

    >
    > Why not become a courier for some columbian drug lord?
    >
    >


    Not a bad job unless they decide to fire you, or you make a big mistake.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Lnkwizard2 MCNGP 2^5

    http://www.mcngp.com
    "He who does not test himself is worthless indeed"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
     
    LnkWizard, Jun 23, 2005
    #10
  11. justdoit

    CBIC Guest

    justdoit wrote:
    > I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    > have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >
    > I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    > who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    > Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    > minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    > a day. However, I have to finish all my work.
    >
    > The work for my job turns out to be enormous. I have to
    > cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    > stay one hour late to get the work done. My co-workers who
    > have the same position are doing the same. But they seems
    > all fine with it. I never questioned them though since I'm
    > new. But I realize that we all might be needing the job and
    > the small salary that we don't want to say anything.
    >
    > This is my first clerical job. I didn't know it's like
    > this. I'm fine with the somewhat low pay, but I don't like
    > it that I have to cut my lunch hour and taking no breaks and
    > staying late and being busy all day. Is this real with most
    > of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    > they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    > companies. I need someone to tell me about it.


    You're whining about only having to work 9.5 hours a day. Get a real job you
    slacker. If I only had to work 9.5 hours a day I could get a part time job
    yet and really make some money. I could flip burgers or deliver pizza.
    That's where the real money is.
    --
    aka
    Doom MCNGP #38
    www.mcngp.com knocked up your sister.
    Don't forget to send spam to
     
    CBIC, Jun 23, 2005
    #11
  12. justdoit

    justdoit Guest

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:22:10 -0500, "CBIC"
    <> wrote:

    >justdoit wrote:
    >> I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    >> have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >>
    >> I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    >> who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    >> Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    >> minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    >> a day. However, I have to finish all my work.
    >>
    >> The work for my job turns out to be enormous. I have to
    >> cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    >> stay one hour late to get the work done. My co-workers who
    >> have the same position are doing the same. But they seems
    >> all fine with it. I never questioned them though since I'm
    >> new. But I realize that we all might be needing the job and
    >> the small salary that we don't want to say anything.
    >>
    >> This is my first clerical job. I didn't know it's like
    >> this. I'm fine with the somewhat low pay, but I don't like
    >> it that I have to cut my lunch hour and taking no breaks and
    >> staying late and being busy all day. Is this real with most
    >> of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    >> they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    >> companies. I need someone to tell me about it.

    >
    >You're whining about only having to work 9.5 hours a day. Get a real job you
    >slacker. If I only had to work 9.5 hours a day I could get a part time job
    >yet and really make some money. I could flip burgers or deliver pizza.
    >That's where the real money is.


    Are you guys serious? You're all standing on the employer
    side as if a job is supposed to be like that.
     
    justdoit, Jun 24, 2005
    #12
  13. justdoit

    catwalker63 Guest

    justdoit <> prattled ceaslessly in
    news::

    > On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:22:10 -0500, "CBIC"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>You're whining about only having to work 9.5 hours a day. Get a real
    >>job you slacker. If I only had to work 9.5 hours a day I could get a
    >>part time job yet and really make some money. I could flip burgers or
    >>deliver pizza. That's where the real money is.

    >
    > Are you guys serious? You're all standing on the employer
    > side as if a job is supposed to be like that.
    >


    It depends on how you look at it. Current economic conditions mean that
    businesses are cutting costs which translates to more work per worker.
    What people here are trying to convey is that it is tough all over.
    You've also expressed a wish to enter the IT field where this has been
    going on for a long time. We aren't on the employer's side but we also
    aren't in a position to bargain -- the employer's hold the cards right
    now. Unless you have some special skills that are in short supply, you
    pretty much have to take what they dish. Clerical work is traditionally
    scut work and they can find many people who will deal with your situation
    without complaint. Try looking for ways to be more efficient or look for
    work elsewhere doing something else.

    --
    Catwalker
    aka Pu$$y Feet
    BS, MCP, MCSA
    MCNGP #43
    www.mcngp.com
    faq.mcngp.com
    "If man could be crossed with the cat, it would improve man, but it would
    deteriorate the cat." Mark Twain
     
    catwalker63, Jun 24, 2005
    #13
  14. justdoit

    Zed Guest

    Face it, you've come to the wrong place for a cry. You need to stand up like
    a man, not a charity case. If you have a contract over pay and conditions,
    enforce it, or walk or put up with it. What age are you?

    "justdoit" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    > have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >
    > I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    > who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    > Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    > minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    > a day. However, I have to finish all my work.
    >
    > The work for my job turns out to be enormous. I have to
    > cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    > stay one hour late to get the work done. My co-workers who
    > have the same position are doing the same. But they seems
    > all fine with it. I never questioned them though since I'm
    > new. But I realize that we all might be needing the job and
    > the small salary that we don't want to say anything.
    >
    > This is my first clerical job. I didn't know it's like
    > this. I'm fine with the somewhat low pay, but I don't like
    > it that I have to cut my lunch hour and taking no breaks and
    > staying late and being busy all day. Is this real with most
    > of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    > they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    > companies. I need someone to tell me about it.
     
    Zed, Jun 24, 2005
    #14
  15. justdoit

    Ben Smith Guest

    In article <>,
    says...
    > I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    > have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >
    > I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    > who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    > Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    > minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    > a day. However, I have to finish all my work.
    >
    > The work for my job turns out to be enormous. I have to
    > cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    > stay one hour late to get the work done. My co-workers who
    > have the same position are doing the same. But they seems
    > all fine with it. I never questioned them though since I'm
    > new. But I realize that we all might be needing the job and
    > the small salary that we don't want to say anything.
    >
    > This is my first clerical job. I didn't know it's like
    > this. I'm fine with the somewhat low pay, but I don't like
    > it that I have to cut my lunch hour and taking no breaks and
    > staying late and being busy all day. Is this real with most
    > of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    > they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    > companies. I need someone to tell me about it.
    >



    Maybe you need to find a nicer family.
     
    Ben Smith, Jun 24, 2005
    #15
  16. justdoit

    Ben Smith Guest

    In article <>, lnk.wizard.nodots2
    @hotmail.com says...
    >
    > "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > >Is this real with most
    > > >of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    > > >they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    > > >companies. I need someone to tell me about it.

    > >
    > > Why not become a courier for some columbian drug lord?
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Not a bad job unless they decide to fire you, or you make a big mistake.
    >
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    > Lnkwizard2 MCNGP 2^5
    >
    > http://www.mcngp.com
    > "He who does not test himself is worthless indeed"
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >
    >


    Actually, it is a really bad business. Levitt wrote about it in
    Freakenomics. Drug thugs in Chicago made far less than minimum wage.
    (Which I way most quit by the time they reach 20.)
     
    Ben Smith, Jun 24, 2005
    #16
  17. justdoit

    Consultant Guest

    mcse does not stand for microsoft clerical specialist engineer


    "justdoit" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    > have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >
    > I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    > who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    > Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    > minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    > a day. However, I have to finish all my work.
    >
    > The work for my job turns out to be enormous. I have to
    > cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    > stay one hour late to get the work done. My co-workers who
    > have the same position are doing the same. But they seems
    > all fine with it. I never questioned them though since I'm
    > new. But I realize that we all might be needing the job and
    > the small salary that we don't want to say anything.
    >
    > This is my first clerical job. I didn't know it's like
    > this. I'm fine with the somewhat low pay, but I don't like
    > it that I have to cut my lunch hour and taking no breaks and
    > staying late and being busy all day. Is this real with most
    > of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    > they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    > companies. I need someone to tell me about it.
     
    Consultant, Jun 24, 2005
    #17
  18. Let me see...

    You should feel blessed that you are not out there making $10/hr landscaping
    or doing construction. I did that when I was 15-18 and learned not only the
    value of a dollar, but also learned to appreciate even the crappiest of desk
    jobs. Here in D.C. there are tens of thousands of college students
    performing internships and many of them are unpaid.

    You are a student...you have little experience...and they are paying you to
    do a job while giving you experience and something that pays a darned good
    wage for a college student.

    If it's really that bad, talk to a lawyer. You can always talk to him/her
    about the FLSA (Google it). Remember that many companies have the
    politicians wired. There is always a tradeoff in life.

    I am a salary employee and I average over 60 hours a week, usually 70.
    Approximately 45 of these are required client hours, then some company
    hours. This is the norm for IT. In addition to that I study sometimes 2
    hours a day and answer newsgroups ~1 hour a day. So, 12+2+1=15 hours.
    Granted in some of the study and newsgroup hours I do laundry, clean up,
    eat, etc.

    I have worked for many a company where they were 1 or more staffers short
    and 1 or more project managers short. Do you think that adds up to 90+
    hours less work? No, the work is still there...the people already working
    60 hours have to absorb that work. Why? Because there are hundreds of
    people looking for your job. I had a manager that told us that he recieved
    300 resumes for 1 opening. In the end he hired the best of the best from
    that pile. She was a great co-worker and ended up being a manager and was a
    great manager. She also looked like Daryl Hannah and all of us big IT guys
    looked like her bodyguards. Seriously, people came up and asked us if they
    could talk to Daryl.

    Bob

    "justdoit" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    > have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >
    > I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    > who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    > Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    > minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    > a day. However, I have to finish all my work.
    >
    > The work for my job turns out to be enormous. I have to
    > cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    > stay one hour late to get the work done. My co-workers who
    > have the same position are doing the same. But they seems
    > all fine with it. I never questioned them though since I'm
    > new. But I realize that we all might be needing the job and
    > the small salary that we don't want to say anything.
    >
    > This is my first clerical job. I didn't know it's like
    > this. I'm fine with the somewhat low pay, but I don't like
    > it that I have to cut my lunch hour and taking no breaks and
    > staying late and being busy all day. Is this real with most
    > of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    > they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    > companies. I need someone to tell me about it.
     
    Bob Christian, Jun 27, 2005
    #18
  19. say thaHi

    Well The kind of situation u described is normally teh same in most of the
    clerical job. They are not the good pay master but actually grill you from
    front and back.

    Taking any sort of decisionat this point of time will be too early nor I say
    that you should not look for another job , but only quit the job , if you
    have one in hand.

    However I'll advice you to stick to it for a month or 2 take some experience
    as i m sure, you'll learn alot and will not feel overburden in your new job,
    --
    Thanks & Regards
    Gaurav Saxena
    XANSA CSD
    Infrastructure Support Analyst
    Mobile no +(91) 9811903391
    Residence +91 01202950990


    "justdoit" wrote:

    > I'm a student and I'm on IT track. But for the moment I
    > have to take a clerical job to make a living.
    >
    > I just started on this new clerical job in a family business
    > who has about 50 employees. My salary is paid monthly.
    > Roughly $100 per day. I was told I have one hour lunch, 15
    > minutes breaks in the morning and afternoon. and eight hours
    > a day. However, I have to finish all my work.
    >
    > The work for my job turns out to be enormous. I have to
    > cut my lunch to 30 minutes, no breaks at all, and frequently
    > stay one hour late to get the work done. My co-workers who
    > have the same position are doing the same. But they seems
    > all fine with it. I never questioned them though since I'm
    > new. But I realize that we all might be needing the job and
    > the small salary that we don't want to say anything.
    >
    > This is my first clerical job. I didn't know it's like
    > this. I'm fine with the somewhat low pay, but I don't like
    > it that I have to cut my lunch hour and taking no breaks and
    > staying late and being busy all day. Is this real with most
    > of clerical jobs? My previous jobs are not like this. But
    > they were not clerical and I worked for some larger
    > companies. I need someone to tell me about it.
    >
     
    =?Utf-8?B?R2F1cmF2IFNheGVuYQ==?=, Aug 15, 2005
    #19
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