MS updates ??

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Hp, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. Hp

    Hp Guest

    Ok, I sat here and went through the various MS suggested updates.
    Some of them are for the .net crap, I seem to have .net 1.1, .net 2,
    ..net 3, .net 3.5 and .net 4 installed at this time. At least these are
    all listed in the Add/Remove window.

    Is there a valid reason to have these various versions still installed?

    Can One Uninstall them all and then just install the most recent .net
    stuff and get buy??
    Hp, Oct 13, 2010
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  2. Hp

    Brian Cryer Guest

    "Hp" <> wrote in message news:i954as$n2f$...
    > Ok, I sat here and went through the various MS suggested updates.
    > Some of them are for the .net crap, I seem to have .net 1.1, .net 2, .net
    > 3, .net 3.5 and .net 4 installed at this time. At least these are all
    > listed in the Add/Remove window.
    >
    > Is there a valid reason to have these various versions still installed?
    >
    > Can One Uninstall them all and then just install the most recent .net
    > stuff and get buy??


    If an applicaton requires .NET then it requires a specific version. So if
    you have something installed which requires .NET 3 then you need .NET 3 and
    ..NET 4 won't do. So, realistically you do need them all.

    That said, whether you have any applications installed which require each of
    those .net versions is another matter. No idea how you can track that down.
    So you might get away with removing some of them, but personally I wouldn't
    risk it.

    Hope this helps.
    --
    Brian Cryer
    http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
    Brian Cryer, Oct 14, 2010
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  3. "Brian Cryer" <> wrote in message
    news:i96ipu$jmv$-september.org...
    > "Hp" <> wrote in message
    > news:i954as$n2f$...
    >> Ok, I sat here and went through the various MS suggested updates.
    >> Some of them are for the .net crap, I seem to have .net 1.1, .net 2, .net
    >> 3, .net 3.5 and .net 4 installed at this time. At least these are all
    >> listed in the Add/Remove window.
    >>
    >> Is there a valid reason to have these various versions still installed?
    >>
    >> Can One Uninstall them all and then just install the most recent .net
    >> stuff and get buy??

    >
    > If an applicaton requires .NET then it requires a specific version. So if
    > you have something installed which requires .NET 3 then you need .NET 3
    > and .NET 4 won't do. So, realistically you do need them all.
    >
    > That said, whether you have any applications installed which require each
    > of those .net versions is another matter. No idea how you can track that
    > down. So you might get away with removing some of them, but personally I
    > wouldn't risk it.
    >
    > Hope this helps.
    > --
    > Brian Cryer
    > http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
    >



    so why wont it allow me to keep previous versions of other things, 'just in
    case' [without having to system restore] after an update .. why does .net
    get to have a 'family'. lol
    Zu Arsschlaark!, Oct 14, 2010
    #3
  4. Hp

    Brian Cryer Guest

    "Zu Arsschlaark!" <> wrote in message
    news:NdBto.18793$2...
    >
    > "Brian Cryer" <> wrote in message
    > news:i96ipu$jmv$-september.org...
    >> "Hp" <> wrote in message
    >> news:i954as$n2f$...
    >>> Ok, I sat here and went through the various MS suggested updates.
    >>> Some of them are for the .net crap, I seem to have .net 1.1, .net 2,
    >>> .net 3, .net 3.5 and .net 4 installed at this time. At least these are
    >>> all listed in the Add/Remove window.
    >>>
    >>> Is there a valid reason to have these various versions still installed?
    >>>
    >>> Can One Uninstall them all and then just install the most recent .net
    >>> stuff and get buy??

    >>
    >> If an applicaton requires .NET then it requires a specific version. So if
    >> you have something installed which requires .NET 3 then you need .NET 3
    >> and .NET 4 won't do. So, realistically you do need them all.
    >>
    >> That said, whether you have any applications installed which require each
    >> of those .net versions is another matter. No idea how you can track that
    >> down. So you might get away with removing some of them, but personally I
    >> wouldn't risk it.
    >>
    >> Hope this helps.
    >> --
    >> Brian Cryer
    >> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian

    >
    > so why wont it allow me to keep previous versions of other things, 'just
    > in case' [without having to system restore] after an update .. why does
    > .net get to have a 'family'. lol


    Its the way they designed it - .net that is. Its to avoid "dll hell" - where
    different applications have different library files but with the same name,
    so installing one application can break another (for more info you you are
    interested see http://everything.explained.at/DLL_hell/ ). It does seem to
    work very well, and is one of those things which Microsoft seem to have got
    right.
    --
    Brian Cryer
    http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
    Brian Cryer, Oct 14, 2010
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  5. "Brian Cryer" <> wrote in message
    news:i96vat$v31$-september.org...
    > "Zu Arsschlaark!" <> wrote in message
    > news:NdBto.18793$2...
    >>
    >> "Brian Cryer" <> wrote in message
    >> news:i96ipu$jmv$-september.org...
    >>> "Hp" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:i954as$n2f$...
    >>>> Ok, I sat here and went through the various MS suggested updates.
    >>>> Some of them are for the .net crap, I seem to have .net 1.1, .net 2,
    >>>> .net 3, .net 3.5 and .net 4 installed at this time. At least these are
    >>>> all listed in the Add/Remove window.
    >>>>
    >>>> Is there a valid reason to have these various versions still installed?
    >>>>
    >>>> Can One Uninstall them all and then just install the most recent .net
    >>>> stuff and get buy??
    >>>
    >>> If an applicaton requires .NET then it requires a specific version. So
    >>> if you have something installed which requires .NET 3 then you need .NET
    >>> 3 and .NET 4 won't do. So, realistically you do need them all.
    >>>
    >>> That said, whether you have any applications installed which require
    >>> each of those .net versions is another matter. No idea how you can track
    >>> that down. So you might get away with removing some of them, but
    >>> personally I wouldn't risk it.
    >>>
    >>> Hope this helps.
    >>> --
    >>> Brian Cryer
    >>> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian

    >>
    >> so why wont it allow me to keep previous versions of other things, 'just
    >> in case' [without having to system restore] after an update .. why does
    >> .net get to have a 'family'. lol

    >
    > Its the way they designed it - .net that is. Its to avoid "dll hell" -
    > where different applications have different library files but with the
    > same name, so installing one application can break another (for more info
    > you you are interested see http://everything.explained.at/DLL_hell/ ). It
    > does seem to work very well, and is one of those things which Microsoft
    > seem to have got right.
    > --
    > Brian Cryer
    > http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
    >
    >


    thanks thats interesting.
    is there something that can tell one what is net/dll dependent as the case
    may be?
    Zu Arsschlaark!, Oct 15, 2010
    #5
  6. Hp

    Mike Easter Guest

    Zu wrote:

    > is there something that can tell one what is net/dll dependent as the
    > case may be?


    When you install an application, you should be aware of what its
    requirements are.

    And you forgot to mention which v. windows you are running. Vista came
    with .net 3; your headers here say NT 5.2 which is either XP 64bit,
    Server 2003, or Home Server.

    Maybe you should remove the .NET and find out what breaks and then
    decide whether it is worthwhile to put in all of that bloat just to run it.


    --
    Mike Easter
    Mike Easter, Oct 20, 2010
    #6
  7. "Mike Easter" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Zu wrote:
    >
    >> is there something that can tell one what is net/dll dependent as the
    >> case may be?

    >
    > When you install an application, you should be aware of what its
    > requirements are.
    >
    > And you forgot to mention which v. windows you are running. Vista came
    > with .net 3; your headers here say NT 5.2 which is either XP 64bit, Server
    > 2003, or Home Server.
    >
    > Maybe you should remove the .NET and find out what breaks and then decide
    > whether it is worthwhile to put in all of that bloat just to run it.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mike Easter


    sure i am, it advises me it needs such and such hardware as a minimum, such
    and such software framework preinstalled or whatever.
    but im guessing not ALL apps tell you everything ..
    i cant remember if all apps installed these past few years use net or dll or
    none or both.
    be nice to have a facility that will help, as there are apps that help in
    other ways with other system reportages.
    without having to break something blind and wait and see ..doesnt seem a
    smart move to me.
    Zu Arsschlaark!, Oct 22, 2010
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