[Mostly OT] Worst P&S butcher job ever?

Discussion in 'DVD Video' started by lugnut, Jan 4, 2005.

  1. lugnut

    lugnut Guest

    Just bored and curious, what do you guys think is probably the worst
    case of pan-and-scan butchery you've ever seen? Cases where pivotal
    scenes are ruined (a'la the issue with the mattes in Fish Called
    Wanda) or extreme cases where perhaps the whole movie is compromised
    by it.

    Two examples that come to my mind off the top of my head are any P&S
    version of a cheap scope kung-fu movie - half the time you're looking
    at two arms and legs swinging wildly at each other but you can't see
    the fighters.

    Another that comes to mind is the old P&S version of American
    Graffiti, which I haven't seen in years, but I seem to recall the
    whole movie being "stretched" instead of panned-and-scanned, making
    everything and everybody look very skinny and out-of-perspective.

    Any other good examples besides the ones we've all seen on
    widescreen.org and such?

    -lugnut
     
    lugnut, Jan 4, 2005
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  2. On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, lugnut wrote:

    >
    > Just bored and curious, what do you guys think is probably the worst
    > case of pan-and-scan butchery you've ever seen?


    Seville's DVD of Lost HIghway comes to mind. Completely unnecessary.

    swac
     
    Stephen Cooke, Jan 4, 2005
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  3. lugnut

    Mike Jackson Guest

    > Just bored and curious, what do you guys think is probably the worst
    > case of pan-and-scan butchery you've ever seen?


    The movie that convinced me of the evils of P&S was "Pulp Fiction." I was
    watching it one day, and suddenly I realized that in the theater I had been
    able to see both Jules and Vincent in the elevator talking to each other.
    This was back before DVD, so I had to track down the widescreen VHS. Getting
    every movie in OAR was probably the biggest reason I bought a DVD player.

    Mike Jackson
    Editor & Web Developer, DVD Verdict
    www.dvdverdict.com
     
    Mike Jackson, Jan 5, 2005
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  4. lugnut

    Otter Guest

    On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:32:00 -0800, "Mike Jackson"
    <-dog.net> wrote:

    >> Just bored and curious, what do you guys think is probably the worst
    >> case of pan-and-scan butchery you've ever seen?

    >
    >The movie that convinced me of the evils of P&S was "Pulp Fiction."


    The first movie I was annoyed with was Die Hard. Right at the very
    beginning when he's in the front seat of the limo. The shot is Willis
    on the left, in focus, then the limo driver in the background out of
    focus, with the credits on the left half of the screen. In the P&S you
    have an out of foucs image and a credit, and Willis speaking off
    camera.

    I was so annoyed by this that from that point on if there was a movie
    I wanted to buy on VHS, I'd wait for the WS version to come out.

    -Otter
     
    Otter, Jan 5, 2005
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    lugnut <> wrote:
    >
    >Just bored and curious, what do you guys think is probably the worst
    >case of pan-and-scan butchery you've ever seen? Cases where pivotal
    >scenes are ruined (a'la the issue with the mattes in Fish Called
    >Wanda) or extreme cases where perhaps the whole movie is compromised
    >by it.


    Not a movie, but the first season of the new "Randall and Hopkirk
    (Deceased)" does a horrible job at deciding where to put the image focus.

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    Michael Alan Chary, Jan 5, 2005
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    Jordan Guest

    The Pink Panther movies... There's a scene in one of them where his
    boss has been institutionalized and he's talking to his psychiatrist
    trying to get out. In the p&s version you have his foot talking to a
    desk. You can't see either actor. Just offal (pun intended.)

    - Jordan
     
    Jordan, Jan 5, 2005
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  7. lugnut

    Mike Kohary Guest

    lugnut wrote:
    > Another that comes to mind is the old P&S version of American
    > Graffiti, which I haven't seen in years, but I seem to recall the
    > whole movie being "stretched" instead of panned-and-scanned, making
    > everything and everybody look very skinny and out-of-perspective.


    My pick goes to "Jaws", which uses the entire 2.35:1 frame throughout and is
    not only chopped on the sides for TV, but squished similar to American
    Graffiti. Looks positively awful.

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    Mike Kohary, Jan 6, 2005
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  8. lugnut

    Guest

    Mike Kohary wrote:

    > My pick goes to "Jaws", which uses the entire 2.35:1 frame throughout

    and is
    > not only chopped on the sides for TV, but squished similar to

    American
    > Graffiti. Looks positively awful.


    Oh, man, for me it's "More American Graffitti." Until recently, this
    was only ever available in P&S (even the laserdisc version). And it
    looks absolutely HORRIBLE in P&S, right up there with "How the West Was
    Won." Thank God they finally got around the releasing a WS DVD version.
    I just wish they had found a better way to implement the Terry the Toad
    sequences in anamorphic.

    -Eric
     
    , Jan 6, 2005
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    Del March Guest

    << Just bored and curious, what do you guys think is probably the worst
    case of pan-and-scan butchery you've ever seen? >><BR><BR>

    A VHS transfer of "Daimajin", where pan and scan wasn't even attempted. They
    just took the square in the middle for the entire movie. But most of the
    interesting action happened on the extreme sides of the original film,
    resulting in a transfer where almost nothing happened where you could see it.
     
    Del March, Jan 17, 2005
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