microsoft spam

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Trish, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. Trish

    Trish Guest

    More of a nuisance than a problem, but every day I get spam mail from all
    sorts, advertising Microsoft products. I have almost 300 listed in my
    blocked senders list and adding to it every day. I have added another 5 to
    it today, plus I have had 6 go into my deleted items that are already listed
    in my blocked senders list. I keep reporting it, but of course that doesn't
    stop them. Even blocking them doesn't stop them as they just go into the
    deleted items. Like I said, more of a nuisance than a problem, but it's
    getting on my nerves now. Does anyone happen to know of anything else I
    could try to at least slow them down, if not to eliminate them altogether.
    WXP Home SP2 using Outlook Express 6. Thanks for any help.
     
    Trish, Apr 26, 2006
    #1
    1. Advertising

  2. On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:10:42 +0100, "Trish"
    <> wrote:

    >More of a nuisance than a problem, but every day I get spam mail from all
    >sorts, advertising Microsoft products. I have almost 300 listed in my
    >blocked senders list and adding to it every day. I have added another 5 to
    >it today, plus I have had 6 go into my deleted items that are already listed
    >in my blocked senders list. I keep reporting it, but of course that doesn't
    >stop them. Even blocking them doesn't stop them as they just go into the
    >deleted items. Like I said, more of a nuisance than a problem, but it's
    >getting on my nerves now. Does anyone happen to know of anything else I
    >could try to at least slow them down, if not to eliminate them altogether.
    >WXP Home SP2 using Outlook Express 6. Thanks for any help.
    >


    I use Mailwasher. It's great.
    --
    Peter
     
    Peter Clifford, Apr 26, 2006
    #2
    1. Advertising

  3. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Thanks. What exactly does Mailwasher do. Just went to Mailwasher.com and
    site is currently under re-construction.

    "Peter Clifford" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:10:42 +0100, "Trish"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>More of a nuisance than a problem, but every day I get spam mail from all
    >>sorts, advertising Microsoft products. I have almost 300 listed in my
    >>blocked senders list and adding to it every day. I have added another 5 to
    >>it today, plus I have had 6 go into my deleted items that are already
    >>listed
    >>in my blocked senders list. I keep reporting it, but of course that
    >>doesn't
    >>stop them. Even blocking them doesn't stop them as they just go into the
    >>deleted items. Like I said, more of a nuisance than a problem, but it's
    >>getting on my nerves now. Does anyone happen to know of anything else I
    >>could try to at least slow them down, if not to eliminate them altogether.
    >>WXP Home SP2 using Outlook Express 6. Thanks for any help.
    >>

    >
    > I use Mailwasher. It's great.
    > --
    > Peter
    >
     
    Trish, Apr 26, 2006
    #3
  4. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Thanks. What exactly does Mailwasher do. Just went to Mailwasher.com and
    site is currently under re-construction.

    "Peter Clifford" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:10:42 +0100, "Trish"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>More of a nuisance than a problem, but every day I get spam mail from all
    >>sorts, advertising Microsoft products. I have almost 300 listed in my
    >>blocked senders list and adding to it every day. I have added another 5 to
    >>it today, plus I have had 6 go into my deleted items that are already
    >>listed
    >>in my blocked senders list. I keep reporting it, but of course that
    >>doesn't
    >>stop them. Even blocking them doesn't stop them as they just go into the
    >>deleted items. Like I said, more of a nuisance than a problem, but it's
    >>getting on my nerves now. Does anyone happen to know of anything else I
    >>could try to at least slow them down, if not to eliminate them altogether.
    >>WXP Home SP2 using Outlook Express 6. Thanks for any help.
    >>

    >
    > I use Mailwasher. It's great.
    > --
    > Peter
    >
     
    Trish, Apr 26, 2006
    #4
  5. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Sorry about double posting.

    "Trish" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Thanks. What exactly does Mailwasher do. Just went to Mailwasher.com and
    > site is currently under re-construction.
    >
    > "Peter Clifford" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:10:42 +0100, "Trish"
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>>More of a nuisance than a problem, but every day I get spam mail from all
    >>>sorts, advertising Microsoft products. I have almost 300 listed in my
    >>>blocked senders list and adding to it every day. I have added another 5
    >>>to
    >>>it today, plus I have had 6 go into my deleted items that are already
    >>>listed
    >>>in my blocked senders list. I keep reporting it, but of course that
    >>>doesn't
    >>>stop them. Even blocking them doesn't stop them as they just go into the
    >>>deleted items. Like I said, more of a nuisance than a problem, but it's
    >>>getting on my nerves now. Does anyone happen to know of anything else I
    >>>could try to at least slow them down, if not to eliminate them
    >>>altogether.
    >>>WXP Home SP2 using Outlook Express 6. Thanks for any help.
    >>>

    >>
    >> I use Mailwasher. It's great.
    >> --
    >> Peter
    >>

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    Trish, Apr 26, 2006
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  6. Trish

    beenthere Guest

    "Trish" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Sorry about double posting.
    >

    snipped
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    Just got straight through here Trish.
    www.mailwasher.net/

    --
    bw..OJ
     
    beenthere, Apr 26, 2006
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  7. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Got it now. Thanks a lot, will give it a try.

    "beenthere" <> wrote in message
    news:GEM3g.81$...
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    > "Trish" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Sorry about double posting.
    >>

    > snipped
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    > Just got straight through here Trish.
    > www.mailwasher.net/
    >
    > --
    > bw..OJ
    >
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    Trish, Apr 26, 2006
    #7
  8. Trish

    Mara Guest

    On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:46:55 +0100, "Trish" <> wrote:

    >Got it now. Thanks a lot, will give it a try.


    Please DON'T use the "bouncing" feature.

    http://www.city-fan.org/mailwasher-bounce-bad.html
    http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum10/3293.htm

    If the feature is still in there, you can get into trouble with it; i.e., get
    your IP blocklisted for spamming yourself, since that's what you'll be doing.


    --
    If you implement a worthless, pointless, bounceback feature, you will be
    causing your users to violate their ISP AUP, and you will be CONTRIBUTING to
    mail abuse. --SG, nanae
     
    Mara, Apr 26, 2006
    #8
  9. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Don't know much about Mailwasher yet, as I have only just installed it. But
    surely if you don't use the bounce feature, then it would just be doing what
    my Outlook Express is doing, which is putting the blocked messages into the
    deleted items. In which case, it won't stop any spam mail getting through,
    it will just put them into the blacklist. So I may as well just stick to
    Outlook Express. Please let me know if I have got this wrong. Thanks.

    "Mara" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:46:55 +0100, "Trish" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Got it now. Thanks a lot, will give it a try.

    >
    > Please DON'T use the "bouncing" feature.
    >
    > http://www.city-fan.org/mailwasher-bounce-bad.html
    > http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum10/3293.htm
    >
    > If the feature is still in there, you can get into trouble with it; i.e.,
    > get
    > your IP blocklisted for spamming yourself, since that's what you'll be
    > doing.
    >
    >
    > --
    > If you implement a worthless, pointless, bounceback feature, you will be
    > causing your users to violate their ISP AUP, and you will be CONTRIBUTING
    > to
    > mail abuse. --SG, nanae
    >
     
    Trish, Apr 26, 2006
    #9
  10. Trish

    Mara Guest

    On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:15:09 +0100, "Trish" <> wrote:

    >Don't know much about Mailwasher yet, as I have only just installed it. But
    >surely if you don't use the bounce feature, then it would just be doing what
    >my Outlook Express is doing, which is putting the blocked messages into the
    >deleted items. In which case, it won't stop any spam mail getting through,
    >it will just put them into the blacklist. So I may as well just stick to
    >Outlook Express. Please let me know if I have got this wrong. Thanks.


    No, you're not wrong. The only way you're ever going to be able to stop
    downloading the spam to your machine is if your host runs blocklists that reject
    or deny the connection from the spammer to the server (which they should be
    doing anyway.) Or, run something like Magic Mail Monitor and delete them from
    the server yourself. Of course that just deletes the spam, and does nothing to
    stop it being sent. Or, learn to read headers, complain to the spammer's host,
    and hope they enforce their AUP and close the spammer's account. Anything else
    is just hiding the problem, not doing anything to make things better. Filters
    and bounces *aren't* rejects or denials.

    Remember this: If you *do* use the bounce feature, you will be doing *exactly*
    what all spammers do - trespassing where you aren't wanted and stealing
    bandwidth that could be used for something useful. In almost all cases, and
    sender of the spam is forged - and *that* address is where you'll be sending
    your unsolicited e-mail - the receiver won't have a clue what's going on, except
    that sh/h/it's been spammed *again.* All the Admins I know blocklist Mailwasher
    bounce users on sight - and those are *private* blocklists, from which you will
    *never* escape. Mailwasher's bounce feature does *not* accomplish what you wish
    it to - it spams an innocent party. That makes you a spammer, and every bit as
    bad as the original spammer - after all, you've just done exactly what *they*
    did to *you.* And if someone complains to your host about it, there's a fair
    likelihood that *you* will lose *your* account for it. What you'll end up with
    in any event will eventually look something like this:

    550 sorry, we don't accept backscatter or forged bounces here (#5.x.x)

    And word will spread from there. If that doesn't convince you, have a look here
    to see what others think of it:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?M27E1450D

    "To *stop* the spam, you have to stop the spammers, not filter them."

    <snip>

    --
    If you implement a worthless, pointless, bounceback feature, you will be
    causing your users to violate their ISP AUP, and you will be CONTRIBUTING to
    mail abuse. --SG, nanae
     
    Mara, Apr 26, 2006
    #10
  11. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Thanks a lot for all your information. I will now remove the Mailwasher
    Programme from my PC. Sounds like it's not worth the agro. I will just
    continue to add any spam to my blocked senders list. Thanks again, much
    appreciated.

    "Mara" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:15:09 +0100, "Trish" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Don't know much about Mailwasher yet, as I have only just installed it.
    >>But
    >>surely if you don't use the bounce feature, then it would just be doing
    >>what
    >>my Outlook Express is doing, which is putting the blocked messages into
    >>the
    >>deleted items. In which case, it won't stop any spam mail getting through,
    >>it will just put them into the blacklist. So I may as well just stick to
    >>Outlook Express. Please let me know if I have got this wrong. Thanks.

    >
    > No, you're not wrong. The only way you're ever going to be able to stop
    > downloading the spam to your machine is if your host runs blocklists that
    > reject
    > or deny the connection from the spammer to the server (which they should
    > be
    > doing anyway.) Or, run something like Magic Mail Monitor and delete them
    > from
    > the server yourself. Of course that just deletes the spam, and does
    > nothing to
    > stop it being sent. Or, learn to read headers, complain to the spammer's
    > host,
    > and hope they enforce their AUP and close the spammer's account. Anything
    > else
    > is just hiding the problem, not doing anything to make things better.
    > Filters
    > and bounces *aren't* rejects or denials.
    >
    > Remember this: If you *do* use the bounce feature, you will be doing
    > *exactly*
    > what all spammers do - trespassing where you aren't wanted and stealing
    > bandwidth that could be used for something useful. In almost all cases,
    > and
    > sender of the spam is forged - and *that* address is where you'll be
    > sending
    > your unsolicited e-mail - the receiver won't have a clue what's going on,
    > except
    > that sh/h/it's been spammed *again.* All the Admins I know blocklist
    > Mailwasher
    > bounce users on sight - and those are *private* blocklists, from which you
    > will
    > *never* escape. Mailwasher's bounce feature does *not* accomplish what you
    > wish
    > it to - it spams an innocent party. That makes you a spammer, and every
    > bit as
    > bad as the original spammer - after all, you've just done exactly what
    > *they*
    > did to *you.* And if someone complains to your host about it, there's a
    > fair
    > likelihood that *you* will lose *your* account for it. What you'll end up
    > with
    > in any event will eventually look something like this:
    >
    > 550 sorry, we don't accept backscatter or forged bounces here (#5.x.x)
    >
    > And word will spread from there. If that doesn't convince you, have a look
    > here
    > to see what others think of it:
    >
    > http://makeashorterlink.com/?M27E1450D
    >
    > "To *stop* the spam, you have to stop the spammers, not filter them."
    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > --
    > If you implement a worthless, pointless, bounceback feature, you will be
    > causing your users to violate their ISP AUP, and you will be CONTRIBUTING
    > to
    > mail abuse. --SG, nanae
    >
     
    Trish, Apr 26, 2006
    #11
  12. Trish

    PC Guest

    "Trish" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Thanks a lot for all your information. I will now remove the Mailwasher
    > Programme from my PC. Sounds like it's not worth the agro. I will just
    > continue to add any spam to my blocked senders list. Thanks again, much
    > appreciated.
    >

    snip

    Trish

    I would leave Mailwasher on, reasons:

    1 Mailwasher can automatically tag spam from known spam sources (eg Spamcop)
    OE does not.
    2 Mailwasher presents you with a list of mail waiting on your ISP's server,
    OE has to download it first.
    This means you save the time and bandwith involved with downloading mails
    you are going to delete anyway.
    3 Mailwasher presents your email with a better 'spam management' interface
    than OE.
    4 With an icon in the 'Quick Launch' toolbar to launch Mailwasher you can
    check what email is waiting on the server with one click. I'ts then a simple
    matter to run your eye over the list and the choices Mailwasher has made (it
    uses different colours for spam/friend/etc), make any adjustments, and one
    more click to 'process' the mail.

    I agree with the other posters to not use the 'bounce' feature.
    If the spammer doesn't get a bounce immediately (from your ISP) then they
    know your email addy is legit anyway so a bounce some time later only
    confirms you are using Mailwasher.

    If you want to try another mail previewer then have a look at the open
    source PopMan, available here:
    http://www.ch-software.de/popman/download.htm

    Cheers
    Paul.
     
    PC, Apr 26, 2006
    #12
  13. > "Trish" <> wrote

    > I will just continue to add any spam to my blocked senders list.


    That is also pointless. Spammers rarely use the same id or sending
    server more than once. You will just end up with a huge, growing list
    that will take up processing time and never be used.

    --
    -bts
    -Warning: I brake for lawn deer
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Apr 27, 2006
    #13
  14. Trish

    thanatoid Guest

    "Trish" <> wrote in
    news::

    > More of a nuisance than a problem, but every day I get spam
    > mail from all sorts, advertising Microsoft products. I have
    > almost 300 listed in my blocked senders list and adding to
    > it every day. I have added another 5 to it today, plus I
    > have had 6 go into my deleted items that are already listed
    > in my blocked senders list. I keep reporting it, but of
    > course that doesn't stop them. Even blocking them doesn't
    > stop them as they just go into the deleted items. Like I
    > said, more of a nuisance than a problem, but it's getting
    > on my nerves now. Does anyone happen to know of anything
    > else I could try to at least slow them down, if not to
    > eliminate them altogether. WXP Home SP2 using Outlook
    > Express 6. Thanks for any help.
    >
    >


    Hey Trish.

    Having read you post (with some amusement - no offense) and the
    IMHO totally useless replies to it, here's my 11 cents.

    a) If you HAVE to use XP (and you don't), at least don't use
    IE/OO.
    Get Opera, it's free, and does Usenet and mail better than the
    MShit.
    Of course, a separate email and a separate Usenet program are
    even better - and that's what I use, so I actually have no
    PERSONAL experience with Opera Usenet/email operations.
    Something tells they can NOT be as bad as MS's though.

    b) I am not THAT good at deciphering headers but is APPEARS you
    don't use web mail. That's good. WebMail is the devil's sandbox.
    If you DO use it, consider not doing so anymore.

    c) *You* will never stop the spammers. And if the government(s)
    really could OR wanted to, they would have, a long time ago. If
    you want to keep on adding their addresses (which are almost
    never the same twice) to blocked lists etc etc, be my guest, but
    you're just wasting your time.

    + = +

    There is a simple way to stop spam. First of all, as already
    mentioned, do not use web mail. Those services can't fight back.

    There are hundreds of places on the web (I'll let you figure out
    how to find them) which offer free or very-low priced POP email
    accounts.

    I have had one for about three years it costs $15 a year, or 4
    Starbucks mochas, and I get between 2 and 10 emails weekly. In
    those 3 years I have received 4 spams, 3 of them in the last
    week. I suspect the company changed owners and are either
    "adjusting" or just don't give a crap. Time will tell. Anyway,
    even 3 spams (BTW, they were identical, a south African lottery)
    in 10 days is not that bad.

    Why did I only get ONE other spam (which, btw, came from the
    same service, was reported by me, and the account canceled
    immediately)?

    Only about 20 people have it, I never use it except to
    communicate with friends, my bank, and paypal (strangely enough,
    even THAT did not cause me to ever get any spam). I ask people
    not to use "c.c.", but "b.c.c." when sending me "FWD's" and
    other idiocies, and I usually ask them NOT to send me "FWD's" at
    all. I also ask them not to put me in their "Windows Address
    Book" which is easily accessed by hackers etc. I don't know how
    many comply, but so far I appear to not have ended up on any
    spam lists.

    I have 2 Hotmail accounts which I use for things which don't
    matter. I check them once a month. They get a little spam, but
    nothing like your'e describing. (I suspect your "MS spam"
    doesn't originate at MS, but that's another subject - MS doesn't
    need to spam anybody, they've had almost everybody in their
    rusty iron claws for ages.)

    BTW, did you know you can not cancel a "Hotmail" account? Did
    you know everything that is sent to or by you via "gmail" will
    remain on their servers, for anybody's inspection for whatever
    reasons, forever?

    Anyway, here are 2 suggestions:

    1) This will only work with POP email. Keep your account, but
    get Popcorn or another tiny free mail checker. It dl's the
    headers, which you look at, select the spam or other crap, and
    hit delete from server. Done. (www.tinyapps.org etc.)

    Then you use your preferred email program (Popcorn will also do
    it, of course, but it has some limitations) to get and read what
    you want.

    2) To largely eliminate the problem like I have, close (if you
    can, or just stop using) your current address(es). Get a new
    one, preferably POP. Only give it to your friends and ask them
    similar things that I have asked of mine. Get a new hotmail (or
    gmail if you don't care about your privacy AT ALL) address for
    crap you don't care about.

    Do not use your real address in Usenet postings/chats/forums/etc
    etc EVEN if you do it like
    "". Right now it confuses
    most spam engines, but sooner or later it will stop working.
    Also, you can not totally discount friendly human intervention.
    If you post something someone doesn't like, they can strip the
    "modification" from your address (in this case, remove
    "nospamplease") and make some fake posting from it to a bunch of
    groups, forums, etc. I think you can imagine what would happen
    then.

    Good luck. It's a bit of work, but worth it.

    --
    thanatoid-Tip® #9 (an opinion this time)
    HTML is very simple, very clever, yet stupid and pointless. But
    PDF is so brilliant I can almost forgive Adobe for killing off
    all their real and imaginary competitors.
     
    thanatoid, Apr 27, 2006
    #14
  15. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Thank you everyone who has given advice on this subject even though some of
    it conflicting. I will take it all on board and will try some of the
    suggestions given. As far as the spammers not using the same email address
    more than once, I do realise this. Also that the MS ones I keep getting are
    not really from Microsoft. Again, thank you all for your help.

    "thanatoid" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns97B1D3AFEDEB0thanexit@216.196.97.135...
    > "Trish" <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    >> More of a nuisance than a problem, but every day I get spam
    >> mail from all sorts, advertising Microsoft products. I have
    >> almost 300 listed in my blocked senders list and adding to
    >> it every day. I have added another 5 to it today, plus I
    >> have had 6 go into my deleted items that are already listed
    >> in my blocked senders list. I keep reporting it, but of
    >> course that doesn't stop them. Even blocking them doesn't
    >> stop them as they just go into the deleted items. Like I
    >> said, more of a nuisance than a problem, but it's getting
    >> on my nerves now. Does anyone happen to know of anything
    >> else I could try to at least slow them down, if not to
    >> eliminate them altogether. WXP Home SP2 using Outlook
    >> Express 6. Thanks for any help.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Hey Trish.
    >
    > Having read you post (with some amusement - no offense) and the
    > IMHO totally useless replies to it, here's my 11 cents.
    >
    > a) If you HAVE to use XP (and you don't), at least don't use
    > IE/OO.
    > Get Opera, it's free, and does Usenet and mail better than the
    > MShit.
    > Of course, a separate email and a separate Usenet program are
    > even better - and that's what I use, so I actually have no
    > PERSONAL experience with Opera Usenet/email operations.
    > Something tells they can NOT be as bad as MS's though.
    >
    > b) I am not THAT good at deciphering headers but is APPEARS you
    > don't use web mail. That's good. WebMail is the devil's sandbox.
    > If you DO use it, consider not doing so anymore.
    >
    > c) *You* will never stop the spammers. And if the government(s)
    > really could OR wanted to, they would have, a long time ago. If
    > you want to keep on adding their addresses (which are almost
    > never the same twice) to blocked lists etc etc, be my guest, but
    > you're just wasting your time.
    >
    > + = +
    >
    > There is a simple way to stop spam. First of all, as already
    > mentioned, do not use web mail. Those services can't fight back.
    >
    > There are hundreds of places on the web (I'll let you figure out
    > how to find them) which offer free or very-low priced POP email
    > accounts.
    >
    > I have had one for about three years it costs $15 a year, or 4
    > Starbucks mochas, and I get between 2 and 10 emails weekly. In
    > those 3 years I have received 4 spams, 3 of them in the last
    > week. I suspect the company changed owners and are either
    > "adjusting" or just don't give a crap. Time will tell. Anyway,
    > even 3 spams (BTW, they were identical, a south African lottery)
    > in 10 days is not that bad.
    >
    > Why did I only get ONE other spam (which, btw, came from the
    > same service, was reported by me, and the account canceled
    > immediately)?
    >
    > Only about 20 people have it, I never use it except to
    > communicate with friends, my bank, and paypal (strangely enough,
    > even THAT did not cause me to ever get any spam). I ask people
    > not to use "c.c.", but "b.c.c." when sending me "FWD's" and
    > other idiocies, and I usually ask them NOT to send me "FWD's" at
    > all. I also ask them not to put me in their "Windows Address
    > Book" which is easily accessed by hackers etc. I don't know how
    > many comply, but so far I appear to not have ended up on any
    > spam lists.
    >
    > I have 2 Hotmail accounts which I use for things which don't
    > matter. I check them once a month. They get a little spam, but
    > nothing like your'e describing. (I suspect your "MS spam"
    > doesn't originate at MS, but that's another subject - MS doesn't
    > need to spam anybody, they've had almost everybody in their
    > rusty iron claws for ages.)
    >
    > BTW, did you know you can not cancel a "Hotmail" account? Did
    > you know everything that is sent to or by you via "gmail" will
    > remain on their servers, for anybody's inspection for whatever
    > reasons, forever?
    >
    > Anyway, here are 2 suggestions:
    >
    > 1) This will only work with POP email. Keep your account, but
    > get Popcorn or another tiny free mail checker. It dl's the
    > headers, which you look at, select the spam or other crap, and
    > hit delete from server. Done. (www.tinyapps.org etc.)
    >
    > Then you use your preferred email program (Popcorn will also do
    > it, of course, but it has some limitations) to get and read what
    > you want.
    >
    > 2) To largely eliminate the problem like I have, close (if you
    > can, or just stop using) your current address(es). Get a new
    > one, preferably POP. Only give it to your friends and ask them
    > similar things that I have asked of mine. Get a new hotmail (or
    > gmail if you don't care about your privacy AT ALL) address for
    > crap you don't care about.
    >
    > Do not use your real address in Usenet postings/chats/forums/etc
    > etc EVEN if you do it like
    > "". Right now it confuses
    > most spam engines, but sooner or later it will stop working.
    > Also, you can not totally discount friendly human intervention.
    > If you post something someone doesn't like, they can strip the
    > "modification" from your address (in this case, remove
    > "nospamplease") and make some fake posting from it to a bunch of
    > groups, forums, etc. I think you can imagine what would happen
    > then.
    >
    > Good luck. It's a bit of work, but worth it.
    >
    > --
    > thanatoid-Tip® #9 (an opinion this time)
    > HTML is very simple, very clever, yet stupid and pointless. But
    > PDF is so brilliant I can almost forgive Adobe for killing off
    > all their real and imaginary competitors.
     
    Trish, Apr 27, 2006
    #15
  16. Trish

    Plato Guest

    Trish wrote:
    >
    > More of a nuisance than a problem, but every day I get spam mail from all
    > sorts, advertising Microsoft products. I have almost 300 listed in my
    > blocked senders list and adding to it every day. I have added another 5 to


    I have ZERO blocked senders. Never use your real email address
    publically, or on websites. Always use a disposable email address. They
    are free. Use Yahoo.



    --
    http://www.bootdisk.com/
     
    Plato, Apr 27, 2006
    #16
  17. Trish

    Mara Guest

    On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:41:08 +0100, "Trish" <> wrote:

    >Thank you everyone who has given advice on this subject even though some of
    >it conflicting. I will take it all on board and will try some of the
    >suggestions given. As far as the spammers not using the same email address
    >more than once, I do realise this. Also that the MS ones I keep getting are
    >not really from Microsoft. Again, thank you all for your help.


    I don't receive any spam at all, except to purposely-created spamtraps. :) None,
    in my private box. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

    That should tell you something.


    Also, "Trish," if you intend to keep posting to this or any other usenet
    newsgroup, PLEASE learn to quote and snip properly. The post I replied to was
    huge, and a total mess.

    These might help:

    http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote1.html#ss1.1
    http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.1

    --
    The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in
    the lie. One word of truth outweighs the world.
    -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
     
    Mara, Apr 27, 2006
    #17
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