Microsoft and others Updates

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Collector, Jan 26, 2004.

  1. Collector

    Collector Guest

    Dont you love MS update.
    After a year off I get back online and decide its time to update a lot
    of my software.
    Run the online update at MS and yep, needs a few patches for my Win2k,
    but hell it works out to over 60megs worth. For example SP4 says 589k on
    the update page, but thats only the loader the balance is 44 megs,
    similar thing with Java and many others, and no resume on these either,
    if the line drops its back to the start. NZ must be third world when
    where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial up, something these
    software vendors must believe dosnt exist any where now.
    Collector, Jan 26, 2004
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  2. Collector

    XPD Guest

    "Collector" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Dont you love MS update.
    > After a year off I get back online and decide its time to update a lot
    > of my software.
    > Run the online update at MS and yep, needs a few patches for my Win2k,
    > but hell it works out to over 60megs worth. For example SP4 says 589k on
    > the update page, but thats only the loader the balance is 44 megs,
    > similar thing with Java and many others, and no resume on these either,
    > if the line drops its back to the start. NZ must be third world when
    > where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial up, something these
    > software vendors must believe dosnt exist any where now.
    >


    And with MS banning service packs being distributed on magazine cover disks
    its a sod as well.. ive got DSL and I get fed up with waiting for the damn
    things to download.

    Hey Telecom if youre looking (hahaha), how about a dedicated full rate
    account (like jetstream games) that gives us a nice fast link to
    microsoft.com only so we can update our PC's in a matter of mins instead of
    days ? :)
    Im sure itd cut back on a lot of blaster/worm traffic because people would
    be patched... oh thats right.. you like unpatched systems running on your
    network because it causes more traffic which means more money in your
    pocket... yup..forget it.. stupid suggestion wasnt it ?
    XPD, Jan 26, 2004
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  3. In Message <news:>
    dated Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:54:27 +1300,
    Collector <> wrote:


    > Dont you love MS update.
    > After a year off I get back online and decide its time to update a lot
    > of my software.
    > Run the online update at MS and yep, needs a few patches for my Win2k,
    > but hell it works out to over 60megs worth. For example SP4 says 589k on
    > the update page, but thats only the loader the balance is 44 megs,
    > similar thing with Java and many others, and no resume on these either,
    > if the line drops its back to the start. NZ must be third world when
    > where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial up, something these
    > software vendors must believe dosnt exist any where now.


    Seemingly not only that, but they don't really CARE. They make it
    available for download ... how (or even whether) you [can] obtain it after
    that is YOUR problem.
    --
    Regards,
    Nicolaas.



    - "Madness ... takes its toll ..." -Count Frank N.Furter
    Nicolaas Hawkins, Jan 26, 2004
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  4. Collector

    harry Guest

    Collector wrote:
    > Dont you love MS update.
    > After a year off I get back online and decide its time to update a lot
    > of my software.
    > Run the online update at MS and yep, needs a few patches for my Win2k,
    > but hell it works out to over 60megs worth. For example SP4 says 589k
    > on the update page, but thats only the loader the balance is 44 megs,
    > similar thing with Java and many others, and no resume on these
    > either, if the line drops its back to the start. NZ must be third
    > world when where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial up,
    > something these software vendors must believe dosnt exist any where
    > now.



    You can download it with a download manager
    http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
    You don't have to use windows update

    The downloads are available here
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/default.asp

    What is it with you people who whinge about New Zealand not giving their fat
    lazy arses a broadband connection, when the only problem is that you are too
    cheap to pay for a faster connection, there are plenty of options even in
    the country you can get ihug ultra, its been available for years
    harry, Jan 26, 2004
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  5. Collector

    colinco Guest

    In article <>,
    says...
    > you like unpatched systems running on your
    > network because it causes more traffic which means more money in your
    > pocket...
    >

    Doesnt MS have big shareholding ($300M) in Telecom?
    colinco, Jan 26, 2004
    #5
  6. Collector

    Collector Guest

    harry wrote:
    > Collector wrote:
    >
    >>Dont you love MS update.
    >>After a year off I get back online and decide its time to update a lot
    >>of my software.
    >>Run the online update at MS and yep, needs a few patches for my Win2k,
    >>but hell it works out to over 60megs worth. For example SP4 says 589k
    >>on the update page, but thats only the loader the balance is 44 megs,
    >>similar thing with Java and many others, and no resume on these
    >>either, if the line drops its back to the start. NZ must be third
    >>world when where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial up,
    >>something these software vendors must believe dosnt exist any where
    >>now.

    >
    >
    >
    > You can download it with a download manager
    > http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
    > You don't have to use windows update
    >
    > The downloads are available here
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/default.asp
    >
    > What is it with you people who whinge about New Zealand not giving their fat
    > lazy arses a broadband connection, when the only problem is that you are too
    > cheap to pay for a faster connection, there are plenty of options even in
    > the country you can get ihug ultra, its been available for years
    >
    >

    Ihug Sat, been there, was one of the first users of it, till its down on
    sat and up on phone proved no longer viable for me.
    No ADSL or cable available to me in my current location no matter what I
    pay and I am struggling with Telecom to get the line upto even voice
    quality.

    I am not fat or Lazy and if its available and I need it I will pay for
    it, but your out of line shit comment neither knew that or considered it
    possible.

    Go troll in another group.
    Collector, Jan 27, 2004
    #6
  7. Collector

    harry Guest

    Collector wrote:
    > harry wrote:
    >> Collector wrote:
    >>
    >>> Dont you love MS update.
    >>> After a year off I get back online and decide its time to update a
    >>> lot of my software.
    >>> Run the online update at MS and yep, needs a few patches for my
    >>> Win2k, but hell it works out to over 60megs worth. For example SP4
    >>> says 589k on the update page, but thats only the loader the balance
    >>> is 44 megs, similar thing with Java and many others, and no resume
    >>> on these either, if the line drops its back to the start. NZ must
    >>> be third world when where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial
    >>> up, something these software vendors must believe dosnt exist any
    >>> where now.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> You can download it with a download manager
    >>

    http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
    >> You don't have to use windows update
    >>
    >> The downloads are available here
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/default.asp
    >>
    >> What is it with you people who whinge about New Zealand not giving
    >> their fat lazy arses a broadband connection, when the only problem
    >> is that you are too cheap to pay for a faster connection, there are
    >> plenty of options even in the country you can get ihug ultra, its
    >> been available for years
    >>
    >>

    > Ihug Sat, been there, was one of the first users of it, till its down
    > on sat and up on phone proved no longer viable for me.
    > No ADSL or cable available to me in my current location no matter
    > what I pay and I am struggling with Telecom to get the line upto even
    > voice quality.
    >
    > I am not fat or Lazy and if its available and I need it I will pay for
    > it, but your out of line shit comment neither knew that or considered
    > it possible.
    >
    > Go troll in another group.


    You first.
    You don't complain that no-ones built a supermarket closer to your house, or
    a bus route just to suit you. You choose to live outside a serviced area.
    Yet when you can't get your 500MB update online, New Zealand is suddenly a
    third world country.
    If thats not trolling, then what is ?
    Its typical Woger behaviour.
    Your best option is to use a download manager like Getright instead of
    Windows Update and use the Microsoft downloads which can be resumed and
    leave it connected overnight.
    Its not a Microsoft problem or a New Zealand problem. Microsoft also have
    CDs available with service packs on them. They have provide you with several
    alternatives to Windows update, for low bandwidth or no bandwidth yet your
    response was to get online and flame both Microsoft and software vendors in
    general and New Zealand.
    Nothing but trolling.
    harry, Jan 27, 2004
    #7
  8. Collector

    Collector Guest

    harry wrote:
    > Collector wrote:
    >
    >>harry wrote:
    >>
    >>>Collector wrote:

    ......Snipped
    >>
    >>Ihug Sat, been there, was one of the first users of it, till its down
    >>on sat and up on phone proved no longer viable for me.
    >>No ADSL or cable available to me in my current location no matter
    >>what I pay and I am struggling with Telecom to get the line upto even
    >>voice quality.
    >>
    >>I am not fat or Lazy and if its available and I need it I will pay for
    >>it, but your out of line shit comment neither knew that or considered
    >>it possible.
    >>
    >>Go troll in another group.

    >
    >
    > You first.
    > You don't complain that no-ones built a supermarket closer to your house, or
    > a bus route just to suit you. You choose to live outside a serviced area.

    Wrong, Its a serviced area. I have a phone line, but the quality that is
    provided is too poor for adsl and despite two doors away having dsl my
    location (which you appear to assume is rural) dosnt. And telecom have
    no intention of doing anything about it. The pity is I live in a service
    hole in the middle of a built up area.
    > Yet when you can't get your 500MB update online, New Zealand is suddenly a
    > third world country.

    The lack of suitable options to a wide area of New Zealand (and you dont
    have to be in the rural estate to lack options) puts us firmly in the
    third world.
    > If thats not trolling, then what is ?
    > Its typical Woger behaviour.
    > Your best option is to use a download manager like Getright instead of
    > Windows Update and use the Microsoft downloads which can be resumed and
    > leave it connected overnight.
    > Its not a Microsoft problem or a New Zealand problem. Microsoft also have
    > CDs available with service packs on them. They have provide you with several
    > alternatives to Windows update, for low bandwidth or no bandwidth yet your
    > response was to get online and flame both Microsoft and software vendors in
    > general and New Zealand.
    > Nothing but trolling.


    MS may well do so, but they do not make it well known and what about the
    likes of Sun, they provide no download then install option, or for that
    matter a range of other vendors.



    >
    >
    Collector, Jan 27, 2004
    #8
  9. Collector wrote:
    > NZ must be third world when
    > where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial up, something these
    > software vendors must believe dosnt exist any where now.


    Not third world, no-where have I seen anyone *needing* a faster internet
    connection(let alone any internet connection) to be classed as first world.
    It doesnt resume? odd... mine always has.

    --
    Dave Hall
    http://Dave.net.nz
    We have Hangman, Pacman, and Space Invaders
    T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz, Jan 27, 2004
    #9
  10. Collector wrote:
    > MS may well do so, but they do not make it well known and what about the
    > likes of Sun, they provide no download then install option, or for that
    > matter a range of other vendors.


    really, I'd better delete this copy java I grabbed last week then.

    --
    Dave Hall
    http://Dave.net.nz
    We have Hangman, Pacman, and Space Invaders
    T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz, Jan 27, 2004
    #10
  11. Collector

    harry Guest

    Collector wrote:
    >
    > MS may well do so, but they do not make it well known and what about
    > the likes of Sun, they provide no download then install option, or
    > for that matter a range of other vendors.


    OK so you've got a bad deal.
    But it is pretty easy to find the Downloads link on the Windows Family home
    page
    Sun has a sucky installer page, but there is also a downloadable exe
    http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2EF52237 if its j2re1.4 you want.
    harry, Jan 27, 2004
    #11
  12. Collector

    Lennier Guest

    On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:23:00 +1300, harry wrote:

    > What is it with you people who whinge about New Zealand not giving their
    > fat lazy arses a broadband connection, when the only problem is that you
    > are too cheap to pay for a faster connection, there are plenty of options
    > even in the country you can get ihug ultra, its been available for years


    DSL may have been available for years - but at a price that is
    unaffordable by ordinary persons.


    Lennier

    --
    Newsman - on CD piracy: "Entertainment meets Geekery meets Vengeance. It's
    unstoppable. A match made in Heaven."
    Lennier, Jan 27, 2004
    #12
  13. Collector

    JB Guest

    On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:42:40 +1300, "XPD"
    <> wrote:

    >
    >"Collector" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> Dont you love MS update.
    >> After a year off I get back online and decide its time to update a lot
    >> of my software.
    >> Run the online update at MS and yep, needs a few patches for my Win2k,
    >> but hell it works out to over 60megs worth. For example SP4 says 589k on
    >> the update page, but thats only the loader the balance is 44 megs,
    >> similar thing with Java and many others, and no resume on these either,
    >> if the line drops its back to the start. NZ must be third world when
    >> where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial up, something these
    >> software vendors must believe dosnt exist any where now.
    >>

    >
    >And with MS banning service packs being distributed on magazine cover disks
    >its a sod as well..


    Are they? That is unbelievably stupid.
    JB, Jan 27, 2004
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  14. Collector

    XPD Guest

    "JB" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > >And with MS banning service packs being distributed on magazine cover

    disks
    > >its a sod as well..

    >
    > Are they? That is unbelievably stupid.


    Been like that for quite a while now IIRC.... theyll probably stop
    magazines from distributing versions of IE soon too.... :p
    XPD, Jan 27, 2004
    #14
  15. Collector

    steve Guest

    Collector wrote:

    > Dont you love MS update.
    > After a year off I get back online and decide its time to update a lot
    > of my software.
    > Run the online update at MS and yep, needs a few patches for my Win2k,
    > but hell it works out to over 60megs worth. For example SP4 says 589k on
    > the update page, but thats only the loader the balance is 44 megs,
    > similar thing with Java and many others, and no resume on these either,
    > if the line drops its back to the start. NZ must be third world when
    > where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial up, something these
    > software vendors must believe dosnt exist any where now.


    Try to get them on a CD. Chances are they have been available on back-issues
    of PC World or similar.

    Or ask a friend with fast broadband to get them for you......in 5-10
    minutes. :)
    steve, Jan 27, 2004
    #15
  16. Collector

    E. Guest

    XPD wrote:

    > "Collector" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>Dont you love MS update.
    >>After a year off I get back online and decide its time to update a lot
    >>of my software.
    >>Run the online update at MS and yep, needs a few patches for my Win2k,
    >>but hell it works out to over 60megs worth. For example SP4 says 589k on
    >>the update page, but thats only the loader the balance is 44 megs,
    >>similar thing with Java and many others, and no resume on these either,
    >>if the line drops its back to the start. NZ must be third world when
    >>where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial up, something these
    >>software vendors must believe dosnt exist any where now.
    >>

    >
    >
    > And with MS banning service packs being distributed on magazine cover disks
    > its a sod as well.. ive got DSL and I get fed up with waiting for the damn
    > things to download.
    >
    > Hey Telecom if youre looking (hahaha), how about a dedicated full rate
    > account (like jetstream games) that gives us a nice fast link to
    > microsoft.com only so we can update our PC's in a matter of mins instead of
    > days ? :)
    > Im sure itd cut back on a lot of blaster/worm traffic because people would
    > be patched... oh thats right.. you like unpatched systems running on your
    > network because it causes more traffic which means more money in your
    > pocket... yup..forget it.. stupid suggestion wasnt it ?
    >


    Don't NZ ISP's have free 'local' servers where you can download files
    from without it eating your quota?
    E.
    E., Jan 28, 2004
    #16
  17. "XPD" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Collector" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Dont you love MS update.
    >> After a year off I get back online and decide its time to update a lot
    >> of my software.
    >> Run the online update at MS and yep, needs a few patches for my Win2k,
    >> but hell it works out to over 60megs worth. For example SP4 says 589k on
    >> the update page, but thats only the loader the balance is 44 megs,
    >> similar thing with Java and many others, and no resume on these either,
    >> if the line drops its back to the start. NZ must be third world when
    >> where I am, I can only get a poor quality dial up, something these
    >> software vendors must believe dosnt exist any where now.
    >>

    >
    > And with MS banning service packs being distributed on magazine cover
    > disks
    > its a sod as well.. ive got DSL and I get fed up with waiting for the damn
    > things to download.



    Microsoft Services 0800 800 004 can send you a free CD with SP4 on it

    Just ask them nicely for the CD to fix blaster problem MS03-039, that CD has
    SP4 on it too
    Nathan Mercer, Jan 31, 2004
    #17
  18. "JB" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >>And with MS banning service packs being distributed on magazine cover
    >>disks
    >>its a sod as well..

    >
    > Are they? That is unbelievably stupid.




    Stupid? So is a mag distributing a dud service pack or a service pack
    hiding malware on their cover CDs.

    Who you gonna call/sue?

    FYI: Microsoft Services 0800 800 004 have Service Pack CDs available for
    distribution
    Nathan Mercer, Jan 31, 2004
    #18
  19. Nathan Mercer wrote:
    > Microsoft Services 0800 800 004 can send you a free CD with SP4 on it
    > Just ask them nicely for the CD to fix blaster problem MS03-039, that CD has
    > SP4 on it too


    I've done this twice, and I still havent received one.
    Anyone else I can call?

    --
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    Play Hangman
    Register, and play Space Invaders or Pacman.
    T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz, Jan 31, 2004
    #19
  20. Collector

    Gurble Guest

    On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:15:29 +1300, "Nathan Mercer"
    <nathan@4757979!!!SPAMSUCKS****mcs.co.nz> had this to say:

    >
    >"JB" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >>>And with MS banning service packs being distributed on magazine cover
    >>>disks
    >>>its a sod as well..

    >>
    >> Are they? That is unbelievably stupid.

    >
    >
    >FYI: Microsoft Services 0800 800 004 have Service Pack CDs available for
    >distribution
    >

    At a price... (Surprise, surprise...)
    Gurble, Jan 31, 2004
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