MCP/MCSD current counts

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  1. =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=, Sep 14, 2006
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  2. never mind - didn't see previous post

    sorry - didn't see the same msg and reply on 9/11.


    "bigpalooka" wrote:

    > Where can I find the latest MCP / MCSD / MCAD headcounts?
    >
    > The site http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/certified.asp hasn't been
    > updated since March 6.
     
    =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=, Sep 14, 2006
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  3. Hey Bigpalooka,

    I admit that from time to time I get curious about the numbers too, but why
    are you so concerned that the stats are up to date? Expect that in the past
    5 months they have not grown more than 10%, and move on! :)

    M
    --
    MDG, MCT
    MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    Certified Small Business Specialist
    Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx


    "bigpalooka" wrote:

    > Where can I find the latest MCP / MCSD / MCAD headcounts?
    >
    > The site http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/certified.asp hasn't been
    > updated since March 6.
     
    =?Utf-8?B?TW9udHJlYWwgTUNU?=, Sep 17, 2006
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  4. I wouldn't think it would be difficult for Microsoft to be able to count how
    many people are in each category. It's a database, I suppose, not hash marks
    in some guy's notebook.

    "Montreal MCT" wrote:

    > Hey Bigpalooka,
    >
    > I admit that from time to time I get curious about the numbers too, but why
    > are you so concerned that the stats are up to date? Expect that in the past
    > 5 months they have not grown more than 10%, and move on! :)
    >
    > M
    > --
    > MDG, MCT
    > MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    > Certified Small Business Specialist
    > Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    >
    >
    > "bigpalooka" wrote:
    >
    > > Where can I find the latest MCP / MCSD / MCAD headcounts?
    > >
    > > The site http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/certified.asp hasn't been
    > > updated since March 6.
     
    =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=, Sep 29, 2006
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  5. "bigpalooka" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I wouldn't think it would be difficult for Microsoft to be able to count

    how
    > many people are in each category. It's a database, I suppose, not hash

    marks
    > in some guy's notebook.


    They tried but the query timed out. They are busily converting the data
    into hash marks in a notebook. The number should be available "Real Soon
    Now" (tm).
     
    Jonathan Roberts, Sep 29, 2006
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  6. =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=

    Montreal MCT Guest

    Hash marks are two generationa ahead of where they are... right now it is an
    obscure system of tracking done in a number system decipherable only to
    those who have golfed with my mother (drive - mulligan - second shot - third
    shot, drop a ball, fourth shot, fifth shot, putt, putt, putt, drag the ball
    to the hole with your club... that was a six and my handicap is a 30).

    Can we agree that Microsoft knows how many MCSDs there, are and are not in a
    great hurry to keep you up to date?

    M

    --
    MDG, MCT
    MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    Certified Small Business Specialist
    Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx


    "Jonathan Roberts" <> wrote in message
    news:%...
    >
    > "bigpalooka" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> I wouldn't think it would be difficult for Microsoft to be able to count

    > how
    >> many people are in each category. It's a database, I suppose, not hash

    > marks
    >> in some guy's notebook.

    >
    > They tried but the query timed out. They are busily converting the data
    > into hash marks in a notebook. The number should be available "Real Soon
    > Now" (tm).
    >
    >
    >
     
    Montreal MCT, Sep 29, 2006
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  7. =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=

    Guest Guest

    "bigpalooka" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I wouldn't think it would be difficult for Microsoft to be able to count

    how
    > many people are in each category. It's a database, I suppose, not hash

    marks
    > in some guy's notebook.
    >


    I'd like to see you keep track of over a million certs coming from more than
    50 countries. It's not easy guy, just chill out, they'll post the
    information when they're ready, not when you are.

    What's the big hype about how many certifications there are anyways? It's
    not like one less or one more is going to change your life all that much.
    Maybe you should learn to focus your time on the more important aspects of
    the certification world, like getting yourself certified.

    --
    BD
    MCNGP #51
    -- You think you know IT?!
    -- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
     
    Guest, Sep 30, 2006
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  8. relax, man. I didn't mean to insult you. If I did somehow, I apologize.
    (Are you the guy responsible for updating the counts on the website?)
    By the way, I've been an MCSD since 1998 (VB5, VB6, and .NET) - I'm focused.

    SQL Server can handle over a million records from 50 countries, my friend.
    I'm sure the updates don't come in torrents. If it can't handle it,
    Microsoft's ads are sadly misleading.



    "BD[MCNGP]" wrote:

    > "bigpalooka" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > I wouldn't think it would be difficult for Microsoft to be able to count

    > how
    > > many people are in each category. It's a database, I suppose, not hash

    > marks
    > > in some guy's notebook.
    > >

    >
    > I'd like to see you keep track of over a million certs coming from more than
    > 50 countries. It's not easy guy, just chill out, they'll post the
    > information when they're ready, not when you are.
    >
    > What's the big hype about how many certifications there are anyways? It's
    > not like one less or one more is going to change your life all that much.
    > Maybe you should learn to focus your time on the more important aspects of
    > the certification world, like getting yourself certified.
    >
    > --
    > BD
    > MCNGP #51
    > -- You think you know IT?!
    > -- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
    >
    >
    >
     
    =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=, Oct 16, 2006
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  9. =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=

    Cerebrus Guest

    BD wrote:
    > I'd like to see you keep track of over a million certs coming from more than
    > 50 countries. It's not easy guy, just chill out, they'll post the
    > information when they're ready, not when you are.
    >
    > What's the big hype about how many certifications there are anyways? It's
    > not like one less or one more is going to change your life all that much.
    > Maybe you should learn to focus your time on the more important aspects of
    > the certification world, like getting yourself certified.


    I differ on that opinion, simply because I think it's a matter of lack
    of will, rather than lack of resources or time or anything else in this
    case. If it was a priority job that somehow affected MS's revenues you
    would probably be seeing a ticker on the site that updates the current
    no. of MCP's every minute. It's obviously way down in the list of
    priorities, and therefore the page gets updated only once in a (long)
    while.

    For a company like MS, handling a coupla million records in a database
    is kid stuff.

    I personally don't subscribe to the hype about the number of
    certifications, but I do admit to being curious (when I became
    MCSD.NET), as to how many others there were across the world. Microsoft
    projects it's certifications as elite certifications, and I find it
    natural (and human) to be curious about just how many people are
    members of that elite group.

    ----
    Cerebrus
    MCNGP #LIV
     
    Cerebrus, Oct 16, 2006
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  10. That's right. Is an MCSD cert really "elite" or has it lost its charm. I've
    been maintaining mine just to stay on top of new technology - it doesn't mean
    anything to my employer. I'd like to find out if the numbers are decreasing,
    if MS has lost interest as they seem to have.
    When I hit 50 yrs old next year, I'm done with tests anyway. I'll be
    unemployable if I lose my job, certified or not.

    bigpalooka - mcsd.net c#, mcsd vb5-vb6

    "Cerebrus" wrote:
    >
    > I personally don't subscribe to the hype about the number of
    > certifications, but I do admit to being curious (when I became
    > MCSD.NET), as to how many others there were across the world. Microsoft
    > projects it's certifications as elite certifications, and I find it
    > natural (and human) to be curious about just how many people are
    > members of that elite group.
    >
    > ----
    > Cerebrus
    > MCNGP #LIV
    >
    >
     
    =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=, Oct 16, 2006
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  11. =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=

    Thor Guest

    No.

    > When I hit 50 yrs old next year, I'm done with tests anyway. I'll be
    > unemployable if I lose my job, certified or not.
     
    Thor, Oct 21, 2006
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  12. =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=

    Jan Eliasen Guest

    On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:05:27 +0200, "Thor" <>
    wrote:

    >> When I hit 50 yrs old next year, I'm done with tests anyway. I'll be
    >> unemployable if I lose my job, certified or not.

    >No.

    Yes he is, with that attitude .-)

    --
    eliasen, representing himself and not the company he works for.

    Private blog: http://blog.eliasen.dk

    Private email:
     
    Jan Eliasen, Oct 21, 2006
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  13. =?Utf-8?B?YmlncGFsb29rYQ==?=

    Thor Guest

    "Jan Eliasen" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:05:27 +0200, "Thor" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>> When I hit 50 yrs old next year, I'm done with tests anyway. I'll be
    >>> unemployable if I lose my job, certified or not.

    >>No.

    > Yes he is, with that attitude .-)
    >


    He seems proactive to me.
    Attitudes can change in a moment.
    I'm not done in this industry before I die.
    Hopefully that will be after I hit 50.
     
    Thor, Oct 23, 2006
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