MCITP Certification

Discussion in 'MCITP' started by Razor, Jun 21, 2007.

  1. Razor

    Razor Guest

    Hi,

    I want to certify myself on the Microsoft BI Platform and plan to study for
    the 2 required exams (70-445, 70-446) that define the MCITP for Business
    Intelligence Developers. I needed to know whether it is absolutely mandatory
    for me to give the MCTS in SQL Server 2005 (70-431) in order for me to be
    adept enough at attempting the MCITP or can i go ahead and start studying for
    exam 70-445 directly. I have worked with SQL Server 2005 from a simple ASP
    ..NET 2.0 programmer for a while now.

    Kindly help me out here someone,

    Thanks
     
    Razor, Jun 21, 2007
    #1
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  2. Razor:
    Having 70-431 used to be a requirement for the MCITP exams, but they removed
    that requirement for some reason a few months back.

    That is probably the reason you've been seeing conflicting statements on the
    matter.

    That being said, 70-431 was somewhat easy for me (and like you, 90% of my
    experience with SQL Server is as a back-end to my client programs), and if
    it's not easy for you I wouldn't even try for 70-445 or 70-446.

    The KNOWLEDGE behind 70-431 would be a requirement for the Business
    Intelligence exams, even if the exam itself isn't.

    Remember that when the exam creators created the two exams, 70-431 was still
    a requirement, so they probably assumed that a taker of the MCITP exams had
    already demonstrated their experience of MTCS: SQL Server.

    In other words, even if you decide to start with 70-445, you should still
    look at the "Skills being measured" for 70-431, as it will be assumed by the
    exam creators that you already know everything there.

    Hope this helps.
    --
    Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS


    "Razor" wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I want to certify myself on the Microsoft BI Platform and plan to study for
    > the 2 required exams (70-445, 70-446) that define the MCITP for Business
    > Intelligence Developers. I needed to know whether it is absolutely mandatory
    > for me to give the MCTS in SQL Server 2005 (70-431) in order for me to be
    > adept enough at attempting the MCITP or can i go ahead and start studying for
    > exam 70-445 directly. I have worked with SQL Server 2005 from a simple ASP
    > .NET 2.0 programmer for a while now.
    >
    > Kindly help me out here someone,
    >
    > Thanks
     
    LarryWestMCSD, Jun 21, 2007
    #2
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    "LarryWestMCSD" <LarryWest-at-hotmail-dot-com> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Razor:
    > Having 70-431 used to be a requirement for the MCITP exams, but they
    > removed
    > that requirement for some reason a few months back.
    >
    > That is probably the reason you've been seeing conflicting statements on
    > the
    > matter.
    >
    > That being said, 70-431 was somewhat easy for me (and like you, 90% of my
    > experience with SQL Server is as a back-end to my client programs), and if
    > it's not easy for you I wouldn't even try for 70-445 or 70-446.
    >
    > The KNOWLEDGE behind 70-431 would be a requirement for the Business
    > Intelligence exams, even if the exam itself isn't.
    >
    > Remember that when the exam creators created the two exams, 70-431 was
    > still
    > a requirement, so they probably assumed that a taker of the MCITP exams
    > had
    > already demonstrated their experience of MTCS: SQL Server.
    >
    > In other words, even if you decide to start with 70-445, you should still
    > look at the "Skills being measured" for 70-431, as it will be assumed by
    > the
    > exam creators that you already know everything there.
    >
    > Hope this helps.
    > --
    > Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
    >
    >
    > "Razor" wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I want to certify myself on the Microsoft BI Platform and plan to study
    >> for
    >> the 2 required exams (70-445, 70-446) that define the MCITP for Business
    >> Intelligence Developers. I needed to know whether it is absolutely
    >> mandatory
    >> for me to give the MCTS in SQL Server 2005 (70-431) in order for me to be
    >> adept enough at attempting the MCITP or can i go ahead and start studying
    >> for
    >> exam 70-445 directly. I have worked with SQL Server 2005 from a simple
    >> ASP
    >> .NET 2.0 programmer for a while now.
    >>
    >> Kindly help me out here someone,
    >>
    >> Thanks
     
    The Rev [MCT], Jun 23, 2007
    #3
  4. Razor

    mrdenny Guest

    When I took 70-445 I don't remember much information from the MCTS: SQL
    Server 2005 Exam on it. I do remember that the 70-445 was very tough. I
    found it harder that 70-446. In fact I didn't pass 445 the first time that I
    took it (I haven't retaken it yet), while I did pass 70-446.

    Several others whom I have spoken with also did not pass 445 while they did
    pass 446. So study hard, and good luck.
    --
    Denny
    MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)


    "LarryWestMCSD" wrote:

    > Razor:
    > Having 70-431 used to be a requirement for the MCITP exams, but they removed
    > that requirement for some reason a few months back.
    >
    > That is probably the reason you've been seeing conflicting statements on the
    > matter.
    >
    > That being said, 70-431 was somewhat easy for me (and like you, 90% of my
    > experience with SQL Server is as a back-end to my client programs), and if
    > it's not easy for you I wouldn't even try for 70-445 or 70-446.
    >
    > The KNOWLEDGE behind 70-431 would be a requirement for the Business
    > Intelligence exams, even if the exam itself isn't.
    >
    > Remember that when the exam creators created the two exams, 70-431 was still
    > a requirement, so they probably assumed that a taker of the MCITP exams had
    > already demonstrated their experience of MTCS: SQL Server.
    >
    > In other words, even if you decide to start with 70-445, you should still
    > look at the "Skills being measured" for 70-431, as it will be assumed by the
    > exam creators that you already know everything there.
    >
    > Hope this helps.
    > --
    > Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
    >
    >
    > "Razor" wrote:
    >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I want to certify myself on the Microsoft BI Platform and plan to study for
    > > the 2 required exams (70-445, 70-446) that define the MCITP for Business
    > > Intelligence Developers. I needed to know whether it is absolutely mandatory
    > > for me to give the MCTS in SQL Server 2005 (70-431) in order for me to be
    > > adept enough at attempting the MCITP or can i go ahead and start studying for
    > > exam 70-445 directly. I have worked with SQL Server 2005 from a simple ASP
    > > .NET 2.0 programmer for a while now.
    > >
    > > Kindly help me out here someone,
    > >
    > > Thanks
     
    mrdenny, Jun 25, 2007
    #4
  5. Razor

    Harry Guest

    MrDenny,

    Just wondering, what material (books / notes) you used for your 70-446 exam?

    Thanks,
    Haider

    "mrdenny" wrote:

    > When I took 70-445 I don't remember much information from the MCTS: SQL
    > Server 2005 Exam on it. I do remember that the 70-445 was very tough. I
    > found it harder that 70-446. In fact I didn't pass 445 the first time that I
    > took it (I haven't retaken it yet), while I did pass 70-446.
    >
    > Several others whom I have spoken with also did not pass 445 while they did
    > pass 446. So study hard, and good luck.
    > --
    > Denny
    > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    >
    >
    > "LarryWestMCSD" wrote:
    >
    > > Razor:
    > > Having 70-431 used to be a requirement for the MCITP exams, but they removed
    > > that requirement for some reason a few months back.
    > >
    > > That is probably the reason you've been seeing conflicting statements on the
    > > matter.
    > >
    > > That being said, 70-431 was somewhat easy for me (and like you, 90% of my
    > > experience with SQL Server is as a back-end to my client programs), and if
    > > it's not easy for you I wouldn't even try for 70-445 or 70-446.
    > >
    > > The KNOWLEDGE behind 70-431 would be a requirement for the Business
    > > Intelligence exams, even if the exam itself isn't.
    > >
    > > Remember that when the exam creators created the two exams, 70-431 was still
    > > a requirement, so they probably assumed that a taker of the MCITP exams had
    > > already demonstrated their experience of MTCS: SQL Server.
    > >
    > > In other words, even if you decide to start with 70-445, you should still
    > > look at the "Skills being measured" for 70-431, as it will be assumed by the
    > > exam creators that you already know everything there.
    > >
    > > Hope this helps.
    > > --
    > > Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
    > >
    > >
    > > "Razor" wrote:
    > >
    > > > Hi,
    > > >
    > > > I want to certify myself on the Microsoft BI Platform and plan to study for
    > > > the 2 required exams (70-445, 70-446) that define the MCITP for Business
    > > > Intelligence Developers. I needed to know whether it is absolutely mandatory
    > > > for me to give the MCTS in SQL Server 2005 (70-431) in order for me to be
    > > > adept enough at attempting the MCITP or can i go ahead and start studying for
    > > > exam 70-445 directly. I have worked with SQL Server 2005 from a simple ASP
    > > > .NET 2.0 programmer for a while now.
    > > >
    > > > Kindly help me out here someone,
    > > >
    > > > Thanks
     
    Harry, Aug 20, 2007
    #5
  6. Razor

    mrdenny Guest

    Back when I took the exam there was no study material avaialble.
    --
    Denny
    MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)


    "Harry" wrote:

    > MrDenny,
    >
    > Just wondering, what material (books / notes) you used for your 70-446 exam?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Haider
    >
    > "mrdenny" wrote:
    >
    > > When I took 70-445 I don't remember much information from the MCTS: SQL
    > > Server 2005 Exam on it. I do remember that the 70-445 was very tough. I
    > > found it harder that 70-446. In fact I didn't pass 445 the first time that I
    > > took it (I haven't retaken it yet), while I did pass 70-446.
    > >
    > > Several others whom I have spoken with also did not pass 445 while they did
    > > pass 446. So study hard, and good luck.
    > > --
    > > Denny
    > > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    > >
    > >
    > > "LarryWestMCSD" wrote:
    > >
    > > > Razor:
    > > > Having 70-431 used to be a requirement for the MCITP exams, but they removed
    > > > that requirement for some reason a few months back.
    > > >
    > > > That is probably the reason you've been seeing conflicting statements on the
    > > > matter.
    > > >
    > > > That being said, 70-431 was somewhat easy for me (and like you, 90% of my
    > > > experience with SQL Server is as a back-end to my client programs), and if
    > > > it's not easy for you I wouldn't even try for 70-445 or 70-446.
    > > >
    > > > The KNOWLEDGE behind 70-431 would be a requirement for the Business
    > > > Intelligence exams, even if the exam itself isn't.
    > > >
    > > > Remember that when the exam creators created the two exams, 70-431 was still
    > > > a requirement, so they probably assumed that a taker of the MCITP exams had
    > > > already demonstrated their experience of MTCS: SQL Server.
    > > >
    > > > In other words, even if you decide to start with 70-445, you should still
    > > > look at the "Skills being measured" for 70-431, as it will be assumed by the
    > > > exam creators that you already know everything there.
    > > >
    > > > Hope this helps.
    > > > --
    > > > Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Razor" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Hi,
    > > > >
    > > > > I want to certify myself on the Microsoft BI Platform and plan to study for
    > > > > the 2 required exams (70-445, 70-446) that define the MCITP for Business
    > > > > Intelligence Developers. I needed to know whether it is absolutely mandatory
    > > > > for me to give the MCTS in SQL Server 2005 (70-431) in order for me to be
    > > > > adept enough at attempting the MCITP or can i go ahead and start studying for
    > > > > exam 70-445 directly. I have worked with SQL Server 2005 from a simple ASP
    > > > > .NET 2.0 programmer for a while now.
    > > > >
    > > > > Kindly help me out here someone,
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks
     
    mrdenny, Aug 21, 2007
    #6
  7. Razor

    Reeves Guest

    Denny,

    I just took the 70-445 test and just barely passed and now I'm a little
    scared to take the 70-446. Did you find the 70-446 easier? Wonder if I
    should just keep pluggin' along, as I studied a ton and was a little bummed
    to just barely passed and I mean barely.

    I found the 70-445 test really hard.

    Thanks
    Reeves


    "mrdenny" wrote:

    > Back when I took the exam there was no study material avaialble.
    > --
    > Denny
    > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    >
    >
    > "Harry" wrote:
    >
    > > MrDenny,
    > >
    > > Just wondering, what material (books / notes) you used for your 70-446 exam?
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Haider
    > >
    > > "mrdenny" wrote:
    > >
    > > > When I took 70-445 I don't remember much information from the MCTS: SQL
    > > > Server 2005 Exam on it. I do remember that the 70-445 was very tough. I
    > > > found it harder that 70-446. In fact I didn't pass 445 the first time that I
    > > > took it (I haven't retaken it yet), while I did pass 70-446.
    > > >
    > > > Several others whom I have spoken with also did not pass 445 while they did
    > > > pass 446. So study hard, and good luck.
    > > > --
    > > > Denny
    > > > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > > > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > > > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > > > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "LarryWestMCSD" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Razor:
    > > > > Having 70-431 used to be a requirement for the MCITP exams, but they removed
    > > > > that requirement for some reason a few months back.
    > > > >
    > > > > That is probably the reason you've been seeing conflicting statements on the
    > > > > matter.
    > > > >
    > > > > That being said, 70-431 was somewhat easy for me (and like you, 90% of my
    > > > > experience with SQL Server is as a back-end to my client programs), and if
    > > > > it's not easy for you I wouldn't even try for 70-445 or 70-446.
    > > > >
    > > > > The KNOWLEDGE behind 70-431 would be a requirement for the Business
    > > > > Intelligence exams, even if the exam itself isn't.
    > > > >
    > > > > Remember that when the exam creators created the two exams, 70-431 was still
    > > > > a requirement, so they probably assumed that a taker of the MCITP exams had
    > > > > already demonstrated their experience of MTCS: SQL Server.
    > > > >
    > > > > In other words, even if you decide to start with 70-445, you should still
    > > > > look at the "Skills being measured" for 70-431, as it will be assumed by the
    > > > > exam creators that you already know everything there.
    > > > >
    > > > > Hope this helps.
    > > > > --
    > > > > Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Razor" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Hi,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I want to certify myself on the Microsoft BI Platform and plan to study for
    > > > > > the 2 required exams (70-445, 70-446) that define the MCITP for Business
    > > > > > Intelligence Developers. I needed to know whether it is absolutely mandatory
    > > > > > for me to give the MCTS in SQL Server 2005 (70-431) in order for me to be
    > > > > > adept enough at attempting the MCITP or can i go ahead and start studying for
    > > > > > exam 70-445 directly. I have worked with SQL Server 2005 from a simple ASP
    > > > > > .NET 2.0 programmer for a while now.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Kindly help me out here someone,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Thanks
     
    Reeves, Sep 7, 2007
    #7
  8. Razor

    mrdenny Guest

    I am several of the others on the site found that the 70-446 exam eas easier
    than the 70-445 exam. However your milage may very.

    Congrats on passing 70-445.

    --
    Denny
    MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)


    "Reeves" wrote:

    > Denny,
    >
    > I just took the 70-445 test and just barely passed and now I'm a little
    > scared to take the 70-446. Did you find the 70-446 easier? Wonder if I
    > should just keep pluggin' along, as I studied a ton and was a little bummed
    > to just barely passed and I mean barely.
    >
    > I found the 70-445 test really hard.
    >
    > Thanks
    > Reeves
    >
    >
    > "mrdenny" wrote:
    >
    > > Back when I took the exam there was no study material avaialble.
    > > --
    > > Denny
    > > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    > >
    > >
    > > "Harry" wrote:
    > >
    > > > MrDenny,
    > > >
    > > > Just wondering, what material (books / notes) you used for your 70-446 exam?
    > > >
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > Haider
    > > >
    > > > "mrdenny" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > When I took 70-445 I don't remember much information from the MCTS: SQL
    > > > > Server 2005 Exam on it. I do remember that the 70-445 was very tough. I
    > > > > found it harder that 70-446. In fact I didn't pass 445 the first time that I
    > > > > took it (I haven't retaken it yet), while I did pass 70-446.
    > > > >
    > > > > Several others whom I have spoken with also did not pass 445 while they did
    > > > > pass 446. So study hard, and good luck.
    > > > > --
    > > > > Denny
    > > > > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > > > > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > > > > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > > > > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "LarryWestMCSD" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Razor:
    > > > > > Having 70-431 used to be a requirement for the MCITP exams, but they removed
    > > > > > that requirement for some reason a few months back.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > That is probably the reason you've been seeing conflicting statements on the
    > > > > > matter.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > That being said, 70-431 was somewhat easy for me (and like you, 90% of my
    > > > > > experience with SQL Server is as a back-end to my client programs), and if
    > > > > > it's not easy for you I wouldn't even try for 70-445 or 70-446.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > The KNOWLEDGE behind 70-431 would be a requirement for the Business
    > > > > > Intelligence exams, even if the exam itself isn't.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Remember that when the exam creators created the two exams, 70-431 was still
    > > > > > a requirement, so they probably assumed that a taker of the MCITP exams had
    > > > > > already demonstrated their experience of MTCS: SQL Server.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > In other words, even if you decide to start with 70-445, you should still
    > > > > > look at the "Skills being measured" for 70-431, as it will be assumed by the
    > > > > > exam creators that you already know everything there.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Hope this helps.
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Razor" wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Hi,
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > I want to certify myself on the Microsoft BI Platform and plan to study for
    > > > > > > the 2 required exams (70-445, 70-446) that define the MCITP for Business
    > > > > > > Intelligence Developers. I needed to know whether it is absolutely mandatory
    > > > > > > for me to give the MCTS in SQL Server 2005 (70-431) in order for me to be
    > > > > > > adept enough at attempting the MCITP or can i go ahead and start studying for
    > > > > > > exam 70-445 directly. I have worked with SQL Server 2005 from a simple ASP
    > > > > > > .NET 2.0 programmer for a while now.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Kindly help me out here someone,
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Thanks
     
    mrdenny, Sep 7, 2007
    #8
  9. Razor

    Reeves Guest

    Thanks for the note on 70-446 not being harder then 70-445 as I took 70-446
    yesterday and I agree it was easier then 70-445.

    Done, Done and done.

    Thanks for the advice.

    Reeves



    "mrdenny" wrote:

    > I am several of the others on the site found that the 70-446 exam eas easier
    > than the 70-445 exam. However your milage may very.
    >
    > Congrats on passing 70-445.
    >
    > --
    > Denny
    > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    >
    >
    > "Reeves" wrote:
    >
    > > Denny,
    > >
    > > I just took the 70-445 test and just barely passed and now I'm a little
    > > scared to take the 70-446. Did you find the 70-446 easier? Wonder if I
    > > should just keep pluggin' along, as I studied a ton and was a little bummed
    > > to just barely passed and I mean barely.
    > >
    > > I found the 70-445 test really hard.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > > Reeves
    > >
    > >
    > > "mrdenny" wrote:
    > >
    > > > Back when I took the exam there was no study material avaialble.
    > > > --
    > > > Denny
    > > > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > > > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > > > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > > > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Harry" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > MrDenny,
    > > > >
    > > > > Just wondering, what material (books / notes) you used for your 70-446 exam?
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks,
    > > > > Haider
    > > > >
    > > > > "mrdenny" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > When I took 70-445 I don't remember much information from the MCTS: SQL
    > > > > > Server 2005 Exam on it. I do remember that the 70-445 was very tough. I
    > > > > > found it harder that 70-446. In fact I didn't pass 445 the first time that I
    > > > > > took it (I haven't retaken it yet), while I did pass 70-446.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Several others whom I have spoken with also did not pass 445 while they did
    > > > > > pass 446. So study hard, and good luck.
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Denny
    > > > > > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > > > > > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > > > > > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > > > > > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "LarryWestMCSD" wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Razor:
    > > > > > > Having 70-431 used to be a requirement for the MCITP exams, but they removed
    > > > > > > that requirement for some reason a few months back.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > That is probably the reason you've been seeing conflicting statements on the
    > > > > > > matter.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > That being said, 70-431 was somewhat easy for me (and like you, 90% of my
    > > > > > > experience with SQL Server is as a back-end to my client programs), and if
    > > > > > > it's not easy for you I wouldn't even try for 70-445 or 70-446.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > The KNOWLEDGE behind 70-431 would be a requirement for the Business
    > > > > > > Intelligence exams, even if the exam itself isn't.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Remember that when the exam creators created the two exams, 70-431 was still
    > > > > > > a requirement, so they probably assumed that a taker of the MCITP exams had
    > > > > > > already demonstrated their experience of MTCS: SQL Server.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > In other words, even if you decide to start with 70-445, you should still
    > > > > > > look at the "Skills being measured" for 70-431, as it will be assumed by the
    > > > > > > exam creators that you already know everything there.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Hope this helps.
    > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "Razor" wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Hi,
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > I want to certify myself on the Microsoft BI Platform and plan to study for
    > > > > > > > the 2 required exams (70-445, 70-446) that define the MCITP for Business
    > > > > > > > Intelligence Developers. I needed to know whether it is absolutely mandatory
    > > > > > > > for me to give the MCTS in SQL Server 2005 (70-431) in order for me to be
    > > > > > > > adept enough at attempting the MCITP or can i go ahead and start studying for
    > > > > > > > exam 70-445 directly. I have worked with SQL Server 2005 from a simple ASP
    > > > > > > > .NET 2.0 programmer for a while now.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Kindly help me out here someone,
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Thanks
     
    Reeves, Sep 16, 2007
    #9
  10. Razor

    adaher007 Guest

    Hello All -
    I am getting ready to prepare for 70-446. Can you recommend a study list. I
    have found the MS Self-paced kit for 70-445 to be very helpful, but
    unfortunatelym they do not have the same for 70-446. A study list would be
    greatly appreciated. :)

    Cheers

    "Reeves" wrote:

    > Thanks for the note on 70-446 not being harder then 70-445 as I took 70-446
    > yesterday and I agree it was easier then 70-445.
    >
    > Done, Done and done.
    >
    > Thanks for the advice.
    >
    > Reeves
    >
    >
    >
    > "mrdenny" wrote:
    >
    > > I am several of the others on the site found that the 70-446 exam eas easier
    > > than the 70-445 exam. However your milage may very.
    > >
    > > Congrats on passing 70-445.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Denny
    > > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    > >
    > >
    > > "Reeves" wrote:
    > >
    > > > Denny,
    > > >
    > > > I just took the 70-445 test and just barely passed and now I'm a little
    > > > scared to take the 70-446. Did you find the 70-446 easier? Wonder if I
    > > > should just keep pluggin' along, as I studied a ton and was a little bummed
    > > > to just barely passed and I mean barely.
    > > >
    > > > I found the 70-445 test really hard.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks
    > > > Reeves
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "mrdenny" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Back when I took the exam there was no study material avaialble.
    > > > > --
    > > > > Denny
    > > > > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > > > > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > > > > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > > > > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Harry" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > MrDenny,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Just wondering, what material (books / notes) you used for your 70-446 exam?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Thanks,
    > > > > > Haider
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "mrdenny" wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > When I took 70-445 I don't remember much information from the MCTS: SQL
    > > > > > > Server 2005 Exam on it. I do remember that the 70-445 was very tough. I
    > > > > > > found it harder that 70-446. In fact I didn't pass 445 the first time that I
    > > > > > > took it (I haven't retaken it yet), while I did pass 70-446.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Several others whom I have spoken with also did not pass 445 while they did
    > > > > > > pass 446. So study hard, and good luck.
    > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > Denny
    > > > > > > MCSA (2003) / MCDBA (SQL 2000)
    > > > > > > MCTS (SQL 2005 / Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration /
    > > > > > > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration)
    > > > > > > MCITP (dbadmin, dbdev)
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "LarryWestMCSD" wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Razor:
    > > > > > > > Having 70-431 used to be a requirement for the MCITP exams, but they removed
    > > > > > > > that requirement for some reason a few months back.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > That is probably the reason you've been seeing conflicting statements on the
    > > > > > > > matter.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > That being said, 70-431 was somewhat easy for me (and like you, 90% of my
    > > > > > > > experience with SQL Server is as a back-end to my client programs), and if
    > > > > > > > it's not easy for you I wouldn't even try for 70-445 or 70-446.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > The KNOWLEDGE behind 70-431 would be a requirement for the Business
    > > > > > > > Intelligence exams, even if the exam itself isn't.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Remember that when the exam creators created the two exams, 70-431 was still
    > > > > > > > a requirement, so they probably assumed that a taker of the MCITP exams had
    > > > > > > > already demonstrated their experience of MTCS: SQL Server.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > In other words, even if you decide to start with 70-445, you should still
    > > > > > > > look at the "Skills being measured" for 70-431, as it will be assumed by the
    > > > > > > > exam creators that you already know everything there.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Hope this helps.
    > > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > > Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > "Razor" wrote:
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Hi,
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > I want to certify myself on the Microsoft BI Platform and plan to study for
    > > > > > > > > the 2 required exams (70-445, 70-446) that define the MCITP for Business
    > > > > > > > > Intelligence Developers. I needed to know whether it is absolutely mandatory
    > > > > > > > > for me to give the MCTS in SQL Server 2005 (70-431) in order for me to be
    > > > > > > > > adept enough at attempting the MCITP or can i go ahead and start studying for
    > > > > > > > > exam 70-445 directly. I have worked with SQL Server 2005 from a simple ASP
    > > > > > > > > .NET 2.0 programmer for a while now.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Kindly help me out here someone,
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Thanks
     
    adaher007, Dec 11, 2007
    #10
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