MCAD, MCSD, MCPD, IT Project+ vs. Computer Science Degree

Discussion in 'MCSD' started by =?Utf-8?B?Qy4gSHVudGVy?=, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. I have 5+ years experience and I am about to pass my final exam for the MCSD.
    I already have the MCAD and I am going to get the new MCPD certification. My
    question is having those 3 certifications are they worth more than a
    bachelors or is having a degree more valuable in the IT field? I am also
    planning to get the Comp TIA IT Project+ certification as well as
    EC-Council’s Certified Secure Programmer and Certified Secure Application
    Developer certifications. The reason I am asking is because I dropped of
    college to obtain theses certifications, and I am now planning to move to san
    jose, ca with a software consultant buddy but I have notice that a lot of
    jobs out there would like the degree vs. the certifications.

    Someone with at least 5+ years exp. please help
    Thanks
    =?Utf-8?B?Qy4gSHVudGVy?=, Jan 19, 2006
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  2. A lot of big companies would like you to have a bachelor (any type) before
    they move you to PM.

    Egghead

    "C. Hunter" wrote:

    > I have 5+ years experience and I am about to pass my final exam for the MCSD.
    > I already have the MCAD and I am going to get the new MCPD certification. My
    > question is having those 3 certifications are they worth more than a
    > bachelors or is having a degree more valuable in the IT field? I am also
    > planning to get the Comp TIA IT Project+ certification as well as
    > EC-Council’s Certified Secure Programmer and Certified Secure Application
    > Developer certifications. The reason I am asking is because I dropped of
    > college to obtain theses certifications, and I am now planning to move to san
    > jose, ca with a software consultant buddy but I have notice that a lot of
    > jobs out there would like the degree vs. the certifications.
    >
    > Someone with at least 5+ years exp. please help
    > Thanks
    =?Utf-8?B?RWdnaGVhZA==?=, Jan 19, 2006
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  3. =?Utf-8?B?Qy4gSHVudGVy?=

    alchemy Guest

    having those diplomas from microsoft and elsewhere shows that you have
    knowledge of he specific technologies, that you are up to date and your
    passion with technologies.

    having a degree implies you have a strong fundamental basis, ethics and
    ability to learn.

    these are said generally speaking. you might find exceptions etc.

    to answer the question if a uni degree is necessary or/and if the
    certifications can replace it, my answer is that yes a degree is
    important and necessary and offers a broader view (you can see the
    whole picture).



    Egghead wrote:
    > A lot of big companies would like you to have a bachelor (any type) before
    > they move you to PM.
    >
    > Egghead
    >
    > "C. Hunter" wrote:
    >
    > > I have 5+ years experience and I am about to pass my final exam for the MCSD.
    > > I already have the MCAD and I am going to get the new MCPD certification. My
    > > question is having those 3 certifications are they worth more than a
    > > bachelors or is having a degree more valuable in the IT field? I am also
    > > planning to get the Comp TIA IT Project+ certification as well as
    > > EC-Council's Certified Secure Programmer and Certified Secure Application
    > > Developer certifications. The reason I am asking is because I dropped of
    > > college to obtain theses certifications, and I am now planning to move to san
    > > jose, ca with a software consultant buddy but I have notice that a lot of
    > > jobs out there would like the degree vs. the certifications.
    > >
    > > Someone with at least 5+ years exp. please help
    > > Thanks
    alchemy, Jan 20, 2006
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  4. I will add from personal experience with college recently in Information
    Systems (although not CompSci our degree plan has more web development
    classes less OOP classes).

    When it comes to Resume sex appeal, HR managers desire for PM position etc,
    yes. Degree is extremely nice to have.
    When it comes to pure knowledge base? The following will answer that.

    I took a database class where the teacher was still talking about primary
    keys during MID semester! I had a co-student ask for my help because he
    didn’t understand the concept of right click on a table name to change its
    name and he was making a B in the class! I joke not!


    "alchemy" wrote:

    > having those diplomas from microsoft and elsewhere shows that you have
    > knowledge of he specific technologies, that you are up to date and your
    > passion with technologies.
    >
    > having a degree implies you have a strong fundamental basis, ethics and
    > ability to learn.
    >
    > these are said generally speaking. you might find exceptions etc.
    >
    > to answer the question if a uni degree is necessary or/and if the
    > certifications can replace it, my answer is that yes a degree is
    > important and necessary and offers a broader view (you can see the
    > whole picture).
    >
    >
    >
    > Egghead wrote:
    > > A lot of big companies would like you to have a bachelor (any type) before
    > > they move you to PM.
    > >
    > > Egghead
    > >
    > > "C. Hunter" wrote:
    > >
    > > > I have 5+ years experience and I am about to pass my final exam for the MCSD.
    > > > I already have the MCAD and I am going to get the new MCPD certification. My
    > > > question is having those 3 certifications are they worth more than a
    > > > bachelors or is having a degree more valuable in the IT field? I am also
    > > > planning to get the Comp TIA IT Project+ certification as well as
    > > > EC-Council's Certified Secure Programmer and Certified Secure Application
    > > > Developer certifications. The reason I am asking is because I dropped of
    > > > college to obtain theses certifications, and I am now planning to move to san
    > > > jose, ca with a software consultant buddy but I have notice that a lot of
    > > > jobs out there would like the degree vs. the certifications.
    > > >
    > > > Someone with at least 5+ years exp. please help
    > > > Thanks

    >
    >
    =?Utf-8?B?U2Vhbg==?=, Jan 21, 2006
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  5. =?Utf-8?B?Qy4gSHVudGVy?=

    certguru

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    Free MCPD Study Guide & Degrees with credit for Microsoft Certifications

    Hi,
    If you want to continue the Microsoft route, refer to my Free study guide for MCPD.

    It is very useful, but not essential to have a CS degree to progress in a career in IT.

    In order to grow to management cadre any Bachelors (such as mentioned below) and then an MBA is more useful than a CS degree.

    In order to grow in technical cadre, following are some degrees that can be done long distance which provide credits for Microsoft Certifications -

    1) Bachelors - BS in IT from Excelsior College

    2) Masters - Masters of System Development (Microsoft Stream)

    Thanks,
    Certguru

    For free help with MCPD - Free study guide for MCPD.
    certguru, Feb 10, 2006
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