low on registry, can't log in, net frameworks fault?

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Quiz Time, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. Quiz Time

    Quiz Time Guest

    Hi,
    Help!!

    My pc is broke big time, i'm typing in safe mode right now, (the only way I
    could get my pc working). I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix my pc.
    Its my last hope before I re-format and start XP again from scratch, and
    lose everything, 4 years of pics, music, bookmarks etc. (Which I DON'T want
    to do in a hurry!)

    System restore doesnt want to work, and I can't undo the last thing i did to
    mess it up, (installed some microsoft net framework at the request of a
    soundforge installation, and gave errors saying about registry requests and
    insufficient space).

    When I boot up now, it gives me.. windows cannot load the users profile but
    has logged you on with the default profile for the system. Detail -
    Insufficient resources exist to complete the requested service.

    Other error messages I get when I press OK and enter a very
    disfunctional/slimmed down version of my usual desktop are: Windows - Low on
    registry space. the system has reached the maximum size allowed for the
    sytem registry. Additional storage requests will be ignored.

    I've tried uninstalling and using add/remove programs in and out of safe
    mode, won't let me!

    On clicking on folders, files, or a program, it tells me that the programs
    are not accessible, Not enough quota is available to process this command.

    I have since managed to increase the virtual memory in the 'system' setting
    to 3000Mb more than 3 times the recommended amount, but still no
    help/change.

    Even though duruing safe mode I can see my files on 'my computer', and get
    access to msn, hotmail, internet explorer, and newsgroups, I still can't
    burn back up copies of my files with nero or windows xp own burn cd prompt
    when i right click'.

    very spooky having a few years of work/pics/music go down the drain due to
    some damn microsoft net framework screwing up the pc!!

    p.s. just tried using the manual net framework uninstallation using the
    instructions on http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824643/ and even though its
    gone now, the pc is still acting exactly the same way, and now I can't even
    go back and undo the registry deletions i've made using these insturtions,
    system restore as ever, doesn't work, (After attempting to restore and
    rebooting, it fails). Don't know what else to try to recover my system.

    PLEASE HELP!!

    Andy.
    Quiz Time, Apr 26, 2006
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  2. Quiz Time wrote:
    > Hi,
    > Help!!
    >
    > My pc is broke big time, i'm typing in safe mode right now, (the only way I
    > could get my pc working). I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix my pc.
    > Its my last hope before I re-format and start XP again from scratch, and
    > lose everything, 4 years of pics, music, bookmarks etc. (Which I DON'T want
    > to do in a hurry!)
    >
    > System restore doesnt want to work, and I can't undo the last thing i did to
    > mess it up, (installed some microsoft net framework at the request of a
    > soundforge installation, and gave errors saying about registry requests and
    > insufficient space).
    >
    > When I boot up now, it gives me.. windows cannot load the users profile but
    > has logged you on with the default profile for the system. Detail -
    > Insufficient resources exist to complete the requested service.
    >
    > Other error messages I get when I press OK and enter a very
    > disfunctional/slimmed down version of my usual desktop are: Windows - Low on
    > registry space. the system has reached the maximum size allowed for the
    > sytem registry. Additional storage requests will be ignored.
    >
    > I've tried uninstalling and using add/remove programs in and out of safe
    > mode, won't let me!
    >
    > On clicking on folders, files, or a program, it tells me that the programs
    > are not accessible, Not enough quota is available to process this command.
    >
    > I have since managed to increase the virtual memory in the 'system' setting
    > to 3000Mb more than 3 times the recommended amount, but still no
    > help/change.
    >
    > Even though duruing safe mode I can see my files on 'my computer', and get
    > access to msn, hotmail, internet explorer, and newsgroups, I still can't
    > burn back up copies of my files with nero or windows xp own burn cd prompt
    > when i right click'.
    >
    > very spooky having a few years of work/pics/music go down the drain due to
    > some damn microsoft net framework screwing up the pc!!
    >
    > p.s. just tried using the manual net framework uninstallation using the
    > instructions on http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824643/ and even though its
    > gone now, the pc is still acting exactly the same way, and now I can't even
    > go back and undo the registry deletions i've made using these insturtions,
    > system restore as ever, doesn't work, (After attempting to restore and
    > rebooting, it fails). Don't know what else to try to recover my system.


    Yeah, I'd agree that you've screwed the pooch pretty good on the OS. But
    I don't know why you think you're going to lose all your pics and tunes
    unless *you* do something to kill them. I'd go out and get another hard
    drive and install it as the master, reinstall the OS and needed
    programs. Then slave the original drive and transfer the files you want
    to keep. This way you'd end up with a clean install, all your files, and
    have a spare hard drive to do backups to.
    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=F4g=EAr?=, Apr 26, 2006
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  3. Quiz Time

    Duane Arnold Guest

    Rôgêr wrote:
    > Quiz Time wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >> Help!!
    >>
    >> My pc is broke big time, i'm typing in safe mode right now, (the only
    >> way I could get my pc working). I was wondering if anyone knew how to
    >> fix my pc. Its my last hope before I re-format and start XP again from
    >> scratch, and lose everything, 4 years of pics, music, bookmarks etc.
    >> (Which I DON'T want to do in a hurry!)
    >>
    >> System restore doesnt want to work, and I can't undo the last thing i
    >> did to mess it up, (installed some microsoft net framework at the
    >> request of a soundforge installation, and gave errors saying about
    >> registry requests and insufficient space).
    >>
    >> When I boot up now, it gives me.. windows cannot load the users
    >> profile but has logged you on with the default profile for the system.
    >> Detail - Insufficient resources exist to complete the requested service.
    >>
    >> Other error messages I get when I press OK and enter a very
    >> disfunctional/slimmed down version of my usual desktop are: Windows -
    >> Low on registry space. the system has reached the maximum size allowed
    >> for the sytem registry. Additional storage requests will be ignored.
    >>
    >> I've tried uninstalling and using add/remove programs in and out of
    >> safe mode, won't let me!
    >>
    >> On clicking on folders, files, or a program, it tells me that the
    >> programs are not accessible, Not enough quota is available to process
    >> this command.
    >>
    >> I have since managed to increase the virtual memory in the 'system'
    >> setting to 3000Mb more than 3 times the recommended amount, but still
    >> no help/change.
    >>
    >> Even though duruing safe mode I can see my files on 'my computer', and
    >> get access to msn, hotmail, internet explorer, and newsgroups, I still
    >> can't burn back up copies of my files with nero or windows xp own burn
    >> cd prompt when i right click'.
    >>
    >> very spooky having a few years of work/pics/music go down the drain
    >> due to some damn microsoft net framework screwing up the pc!!
    >>
    >> p.s. just tried using the manual net framework uninstallation using
    >> the instructions on http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824643/ and even
    >> though its gone now, the pc is still acting exactly the same way, and
    >> now I can't even go back and undo the registry deletions i've made
    >> using these insturtions, system restore as ever, doesn't work, (After
    >> attempting to restore and rebooting, it fails). Don't know what else
    >> to try to recover my system.

    >
    >
    > Yeah, I'd agree that you've screwed the pooch pretty good on the OS. But
    > I don't know why you think you're going to lose all your pics and tunes
    > unless *you* do something to kill them. I'd go out and get another hard
    > drive and install it as the master, reinstall the OS and needed
    > programs. Then slave the original drive and transfer the files you want
    > to keep. This way you'd end up with a clean install, all your files, and
    > have a spare hard drive to do backups to.


    Secondly, the .Net Framework as absolutely nothing to do with this OP
    problems -- nothing what so ever. ;-)

    Why the OP has mentioned the .Net Framework is a mystery?

    Duane :)
    Duane Arnold, Apr 26, 2006
    #3
  4. Quiz Time

    Mara Guest

    On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:30:16 GMT, "Quiz Time"
    <> wrote:

    >Hi,
    >Help!!
    >
    >My pc is broke big time, i'm typing in safe mode right now, (the only way I
    >could get my pc working). I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix my pc.
    >Its my last hope before I re-format and start XP again from scratch, and
    >lose everything, 4 years of pics, music, bookmarks etc. (Which I DON'T want
    >to do in a hurry!)


    Did you install .Net 2.0, or 1.1?

    Symantec Antivirus can do this. But so can a lot of other things. There might be
    some help here:

    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t49537.html

    I wonder if sfc.exe /SCANNOW on the borked drive would help. Or F8 during the
    splash screen...

    Do you have Service Pack 2 installed?

    "There are always possibilities."

    <snip>

    --
    <AB> . o O (Years from now, when the aliens are sifting through our
    fossilized remnants, they're going to come to one inescapable
    conclusion)
    <AB> . o O (The Earth was populated by dorks.)
    Mara, Apr 26, 2006
    #4
  5. Quiz Time

    Duane Arnold Guest

    > some damn microsoft net framework screwing up the pc!!

    No!
    >
    > p.s. just tried using the manual net framework uninstallation using the
    > instructions on http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824643/ and even though its
    > gone now, the pc is still acting exactly the same way, and now I can't even
    > go back and undo the registry deletions i've made using these insturtions,
    > system restore as ever, doesn't work, (After attempting to restore and
    > rebooting, it fails). Don't know what else to try to recover my system.
    >


    Then it should be obvious that the .Net Framework as nothing to do with
    your problems -- nothing what so ever to do with your problems - none.

    Duane :)
    Duane Arnold, Apr 26, 2006
    #5
  6. Quiz Time

    Quiz Time Guest

    > Did you install .Net 2.0, or 1.1?
    >
    > Symantec Antivirus can do this. But so can a lot of other things.



    It was netframe work 1.1 that did it, along with the hot fix or update that
    went along with it. Can't remember which one did it, but it took my registry
    pages over its limit or something.

    I have Windows XP and what I considered to be a fairly decent system made
    top of the range for its spec in 2002. I don't use norton, I use AVG free
    version, and use all the usual security such as zonealarm, pop-up blockers,
    and ad-aware. Has done me proud and has worked 99.9% problem free for years.

    I do have 2, 80 gig hard drives, both working under the same operating
    system, (which is the thing thats giving me grief right now) and both of
    them are not even 1/3 full. It was the registry filing pages or something
    that maxed out. I've since upped the virtual memory allocation manually to
    more than 3 times the recommended level for each hard drive, still no joy.
    Still won't let me log into the OS without giving me the error that I have
    reached the maximum registry space and insufficient resources exist to let
    me in as normal.

    Someone suggested installing a new hard drive, new master and slave combo,
    and starting afresh on that one, then copying my files over onto the new
    hard drive, then re-format the old hard drive when the copying is finished.
    Then install an OS on the newly formatted drive from fresh, then copy the
    files back over again.They didn't know I had 2 hard drives already, so I
    might like to find out more on how to do that, but I just noticed I CAN copy
    the files across from one hard drive to the other without a problem. Even
    though I'm only able to function properly in safe mode, to do this function,
    or any function!

    This very same problem has happened to me before when I did a windows update
    but luckily I was able to system restore, this time, no restore points
    available for me :(

    Andy
    Quiz Time, Apr 26, 2006
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  7. Quiz Time rambled on in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

    snip

    > the system has reached the maximum size allowed for the
    > sytem registry. Additional storage requests will be ignored.
    >

    snip

    Take a look here, and see if this may apply:


    http://forums.wugnet.com/Windows-Low-Registry-Space-ftopict435953.html

    --
    The Old Sourdough
    In the future, everyone will speak one language, but no one will speak it
    well.-George Carlin
    The Old Sourdough, Apr 26, 2006
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    Duane Arnold Guest

    >
    >
    >
    > It was netframe work 1.1 that did it, along with the hot fix or update that
    > went along with it. Can't remember which one did it, but it took my registry
    > pages over its limit or something.
    >


    That's impossible. The XP registry cannot be pushed over the limit. It's
    a database that grows and is only limited to disk space and what's
    happening with the Memory Pool.

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/292726/en-us

    http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/archive/LowPoolMem.mspx

    Maybe, you have some kind of crap driver or drivers that are running
    that are not certified to run on the XP O/S that's causing this
    condition and the .Net Framework has triggered it. The .Net Framework is
    not the problem.

    Duane :)
    Duane Arnold, Apr 26, 2006
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  9. Quiz Time

    Quiz Time Guest


    > Have you tried fixing things from the repair console?
    >
    > Or this?
    >
    > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#Warning1
    >
    > If you can only boot in safe mode, and the system won't boot any other
    > way, you
    > could try running the FIXBOOT command from the repair console. Worth a
    > try.
    >
    > Or, you could just install XP to the drive it *isn't* installed on, boot
    > to it,
    > and recover your files from there.



    I've tried running the XP disc to do a repair, it couldn't find any hard
    discs on my pc so had to abandon the attempt, also tried repair console and
    it just hanged.

    Tried increasing the registry size limit through these instructions
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/124594/ but its still just as bad and still
    not letting me log into my profile when I boot up, due to 'windows cannot
    load the users profile but
    has logged you on with the default profile for the system. Detail -
    Insufficient resources exist to complete the requested service'.

    I have 2 SATA hard drives 80 gig each, I was wondering how I could maybe
    fresh install the one that has windows on, Without losing my important files
    and documents which are mainly on the other drive.

    Andy
    Quiz Time, Apr 27, 2006
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  10. Quiz Time

    Quiz Time Guest

    >
    > Take a look here, and see if this may apply:
    >
    >
    > http://forums.wugnet.com/Windows-Low-Registry-Space-ftopict435953.html




    I've tried running the XP disc to do a repair, it couldn't find any hard
    discs on my pc so had to abandon the attempt, also tried repair console and
    it just hanged.

    Tried increasing the registry size limit through these instructions
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/124594/ but its still just as bad and still
    not letting me log into my profile when I boot up, due to 'windows cannot
    load the users profile but has logged you on with the default profile for
    the system. Detail - Insufficient resources exist to complete the requested
    service'.

    I have 2 SATA hard drives 80 gig each, I was wondering how I could maybe
    fresh install the one that has windows on, Without losing my important files
    and documents which are mainly on the other drive.

    Andy
    Quiz Time, Apr 27, 2006
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    Duane Arnold Guest

    >
    >
    >
    > I've tried running the XP disc to do a repair, it couldn't find any hard
    > discs on my pc so had to abandon the attempt, also tried repair console and
    > it just hanged.
    >
    > Tried increasing the registry size limit through these instructions
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/124594/ but its still just as bad and still
    > not letting me log into my profile when I boot up, due to 'windows cannot
    > load the users profile but
    > has logged you on with the default profile for the system. Detail -
    > Insufficient resources exist to complete the requested service'.


    I guess you can't understand that doesn't apply to Win 2k3 and XP. XP
    takes care of itself when doing any thing with registry size.

    When are you going to realize that you have some kind of 3rd party
    driver problem that is not adhering to the XP standards that is causing
    this issue and you need to find it, remove it and not use it?

    You have some kind of paged pool memory problem that most likely some
    3rd party driver is the root cause of the problem.

    Your head is *hard*.

    Duane :)
    Duane Arnold, Apr 27, 2006
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  12. Quiz Time

    Duane Arnold Guest

    Quiz Time wrote:
    >>Take a look here, and see if this may apply:
    >>
    >>
    >>http://forums.wugnet.com/Windows-Low-Registry-Space-ftopict435953.html

    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I've tried running the XP disc to do a repair, it couldn't find any hard
    > discs on my pc so had to abandon the attempt, also tried repair console and
    > it just hanged.
    >
    > Tried increasing the registry size limit through these instructions
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/124594/ but its still just as bad and still
    > not letting me log into my profile when I boot up, due to 'windows cannot
    > load the users profile but has logged you on with the default profile for
    > the system. Detail - Insufficient resources exist to complete the requested
    > service'.
    >
    > I have 2 SATA hard drives 80 gig each, I was wondering how I could maybe
    > fresh install the one that has windows on, Without losing my important files
    > and documents which are mainly on the other drive.
    >
    > Andy
    >
    >


    This person has a hard head.

    Duane :)
    Duane Arnold, Apr 27, 2006
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