# Looks like the "conspiracy theories" really were true after all...

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by schoenfeld.one@gmail.com, Oct 20, 2007.

1. ### Guest

Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.

The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here

There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.

Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?

If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!

How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?

If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.

This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!

PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,

Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds

PROPOSITION 2:
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:

Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2

or

s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)

Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2

Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds

, Oct 20, 2007

2. ### BDKGuest

In article <>,
says...
> Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
> crashing down on the day of 9/11.
>
> The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here
>
>
> There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.
>
> Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?
>
> If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
> demolitions industry!
>
> How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?
>
> If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
> from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.
>
> This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
> so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
> DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!
>
> PROPOSITION 1:
> It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
> ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
>
> Collapse start time: 17 seconds
> Collapse end time: 23 seconds
> Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
>
> PROPOSITION 2:
> A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
> seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
> kinematical considerations alone:
>
> Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
> total time^2
>
> or
>
> s = ut + 1/2at^2
> where
> s = 174 m (height of building)
> u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
> a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
> a constant)
>
> Thus,
> 174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
>
> Solving for t
> t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
> = 5.9590
> ~ 6 seconds
>
>

Since the building actually took over twice that long to collapse, your
"cipherin'" is meaningless, Jethro. In no way did the WTC collapses
resemble a controlled demo.

BDK

BDK, Oct 20, 2007

3. ### pjGuest

BDK wrote:
> In article <>,
> says...
>> Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
>> crashing down on the day of 9/11.
>>
>> The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here
>>
>>
>> There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.
>>
>> Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?
>>
>> If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
>> demolitions industry!
>>
>> How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?
>>
>> If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
>> from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.
>>
>> This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
>> so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
>> DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!
>>
>> PROPOSITION 1:
>> It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
>> ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
>>
>> Collapse start time: 17 seconds
>> Collapse end time: 23 seconds
>> Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
>>
>> PROPOSITION 2:
>> A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
>> seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
>> kinematical considerations alone:
>>
>> Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
>> total time^2
>>
>> or
>>
>> s = ut + 1/2at^2
>> where
>> s = 174 m (height of building)
>> u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
>> a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
>> a constant)
>>
>> Thus,
>> 174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
>>
>> Solving for t
>> t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
>> = 5.9590
>> ~ 6 seconds
>>
>>

>
> Since the building actually took over twice that long to collapse, your
> "cipherin'" is meaningless, Jethro. In no way did the WTC collapses
> resemble a controlled demo.
>
> BDK

WTC7 contained utilities and support for the WTC complex. Emerg. Diesel
Generators, very large storage tanks of fuel etc.

Not your typical Manhattan Office Complex.

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pj, Oct 20, 2007
4. ### TelamonGuest

In article <>,
wrote:

> Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
> crashing down on the day of 9/11.
>
> The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here
>
>
> There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.
>
> Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?

< Snip >

How the hell do think steel is made? The answer is yes.

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Ventura, California

Telamon, Oct 20, 2007
5. ### VengerGuest

wrote:
> Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
> crashing down on the day of 9/11.

Most people report they believe in ghosts and UFOs, which when combined
with 9/11 conspiracies make three addle-minded make-believe bits of idiocy.

<snipped nincompoopery>

Truthers are stupid.

Venger

Venger, Oct 20, 2007
6. ### Guest

, Oct 20, 2007
7. ### JonesGuest

wrote:
Popular Mechanics. Wahahahaha........Ladies Home Journal does a nice report
on what really happened too. Wahahahaha.........

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Jones, Oct 20, 2007
8. ### Bob IGuest

After solving for your lack of brain matter, you're a genuine moron!

wrote:

Bob I, Oct 20, 2007
9. ### Dave CohenGuest

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:20:16 -0700, pj wrote:

> BDK wrote:
>> In article <>,
>> says...
>>> Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
>>> crashing down on the day of 9/11.
>>>

There's a hell of a lot most of us don't know. But we won't be any wiser
reading your posts, in fact we could finish up knowing even less.
Dave Cohen

Dave Cohen, Oct 20, 2007
10. ### Guest

On Oct 20, 1:34 am, Venger <> wrote:
> wrote:
> > Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
> > crashing down on the day of 9/11.

>
> Most people report they believe in ghosts and UFOs, which when combined
> with 9/11 conspiracies make three addle-minded make-believe bits of idiocy.
>
> <snipped nincompoopery>
>
> Truthers are stupid.
>
> Venger

Mr. Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center buildings
admitted to pulling building 7 in a PBS special.
According to several websites building 7 collapsed at or around 5:20
pm, just over 6 hours after the first two towers fell. Pretty
impressive demolitions job considering in 6 hours a crew was called up
with materials in hand and rigged that 47 story building to blow.

, Oct 24, 2007
11. ### RHFGuest

On Oct 24, 9:30 am, wrote:
> On Oct 20, 1:34 am, Venger <> wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> > > Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
> > > crashing down on the day of 9/11.

>
> > Most people report they believe in ghosts and UFOs, which when combined
> > with 9/11 conspiracies make three addle-minded make-believe bits of idiocy.

>
> > <snipped nincompoopery>

>
> > Truthers are stupid.

>
> > Venger

>
> Mr. Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center buildings
> admitted to pulling building 7 in a PBS special.
> According to several websites building 7 collapsed at or around 5:20
> pm, just over 6 hours after the first two towers fell.

- Pretty impressive demolitions job considering in 6 hours
- a crew was called up with materials in hand and rigged
- that 47 story building to blow.

Yes a Good Example of that All American
"Know How" and Can Do Attitude ! ~ RHF
.

RHF, Oct 24, 2007
12. ### BDKGuest

In article <>,
says...
> On Oct 20, 1:34 am, Venger <> wrote:
> > wrote:
> > > Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
> > > crashing down on the day of 9/11.

> >
> > Most people report they believe in ghosts and UFOs, which when combined
> > with 9/11 conspiracies make three addle-minded make-believe bits of idiocy.
> >
> > <snipped nincompoopery>
> >
> > Truthers are stupid.
> >
> > Venger

>
> Mr. Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center buildings
> admitted to pulling building 7 in a PBS special.
> According to several websites building 7 collapsed at or around 5:20
> pm, just over 6 hours after the first two towers fell. Pretty
> impressive demolitions job considering in 6 hours a crew was called up
> with materials in hand and rigged that 47 story building to blow.
>
>
>

It's amazing what nonsense the 911 kooks will swallow. It normally takes
months, minimum to set up a building for demolition, but yet the kooks
claim it was done almost instantly.

A kook's mind is a terrible thing to...umm, waste again?

BDK

BDK, Oct 24, 2007
13. ### Mr. StratGuest

In article <-express.com>, BDK
<> wrote:

> It's amazing what nonsense the 911 kooks will swallow. It normally takes
> months, minimum to set up a building for demolition, but yet the kooks
> claim it was done almost instantly.
>
> A kook's mind is a terrible thing to...umm, waste again?

I used to work with a "truther," and it's scary to see an otherwise
intelligent individual get wrapped up in such nonsense.

Mr. Strat, Oct 24, 2007
14. ### Guest

, Oct 24, 2007
15. ### JonesGuest

wrote:
> On Oct 24, 12:30 pm, wrote:
>> On Oct 20, 1:34 am, Venger <> wrote:
>>

>
>>
>>
>> Mr. Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center buildings
>> admitted to pulling building 7 in a PBS special.

>
> < BS Snipped>
>
> http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5#wtc7

Wahahaha...........Ladies Home Journal has a better article that explains it
all. All you have is an article from a hobby mag? Wahahahaha................

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Jones, Oct 24, 2007
16. ### BDKGuest

In article <241020071339084010%>,
says...
> In article <-express.com>, BDK
> <> wrote:
>
> > It's amazing what nonsense the 911 kooks will swallow. It normally takes
> > months, minimum to set up a building for demolition, but yet the kooks
> > claim it was done almost instantly.
> >
> > A kook's mind is a terrible thing to...umm, waste again?

>
> I used to work with a "truther," and it's scary to see an otherwise
> intelligent individual get wrapped up in such nonsense.
>

I worked with a "Chemtrails" believer, a really smart kid, who seemed to
deteriorate over the course of a year to the point he got fired for
sleeping most of the time, so deeply that he had to be shaken awake,
yelling at him didn't work. When he wasn't sleeping, he was looking up
stuff about chemtrails, and sending it to several of us who laughed at
him.

I don't know what he's doing now. Last I heard, he was back living at
home, and smoking a lot of pot.

Then there's the religious whackjobs. We're down to two, both not too
members of a local "cult" type church. What a joy to be around they
were..

BDK

BDK, Oct 25, 2007
17. ### BDKGuest

In article <471fb9f2\$0\$26364\$>,
says...
> wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 12:30 pm, wrote:
> >> On Oct 20, 1:34 am, Venger <> wrote:
> >>

> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Mr. Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center buildings
> >> admitted to pulling building 7 in a PBS special.

> >
> > < BS Snipped>
> >
> > http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5#wtc7

>
> Wahahaha...........Ladies Home Journal has a better article that explains it
> all. All you have is an article from a hobby mag? Wahahahaha................
>
>
>
>

It towers above the kookpages you read though..

BDK

BDK, Oct 25, 2007
18. ### AlGuest

In article <-express.com>,
BDK <> wrote:

> In article <241020071339084010%>,
> says...
> > In article <-express.com>, BDK
> > <> wrote:
> >
> > > It's amazing what nonsense the 911 kooks will swallow. It normally takes
> > > months, minimum to set up a building for demolition, but yet the kooks
> > > claim it was done almost instantly.
> > >
> > > A kook's mind is a terrible thing to...umm, waste again?

> >
> > I used to work with a "truther," and it's scary to see an otherwise
> > intelligent individual get wrapped up in such nonsense.
> >

>
> I worked with a "Chemtrails" believer, a really smart kid, who seemed to
> deteriorate over the course of a year to the point he got fired for
> sleeping most of the time, so deeply that he had to be shaken awake,

Dude was on a mixture of freon and fluoride, probably accidental.

Al, Oct 25, 2007
19. ### JonesGuest

BDK wrote:
> In article <471fb9f2\$0\$26364\$>,
> says...
>> wrote:
>>> On Oct 24, 12:30 pm, wrote:
>>>> On Oct 20, 1:34 am, Venger <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center buildings
>>>> admitted to pulling building 7 in a PBS special.
>>>
>>> < BS Snipped>
>>>
>>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5#wtc7

>>
>> Wahahaha...........Ladies Home Journal has a better article that
>> explains it all. All you have is an article from a hobby mag?
>> Wahahahaha................
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> It towers above the kookpages you read though..
>
> BDK

The only ones I read I am replying to now. You are a real nut case and have
nothing but tall stories.

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Jones, Oct 25, 2007
20. ### Dennis M. HammesGuest

RHF wrote:

> On Oct 24, 9:30 am, wrote:
>
>>On Oct 20, 1:34 am, Venger <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
>>>>crashing down on the day of 9/11.

>>
>>>Most people report they believe in ghosts and UFOs, which when combined
>>>with 9/11 conspiracies make three addle-minded make-believe bits of idiocy.

>>
>>><snipped nincompoopery>

>>
>>>Truthers are stupid.

>>
>>>Venger

>>
>>Mr. Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center buildings
>>admitted to pulling building 7 in a PBS special.
>>According to several websites building 7 collapsed at or around 5:20
>>pm, just over 6 hours after the first two towers fell.

>
>
> - Pretty impressive demolitions job considering in 6 hours
> - a crew was called up with materials in hand and rigged
> - that 47 story building to blow.
>
> Yes a Good Example of that All American
> "Know How" and Can Do Attitude ! ~ RHF
> .
>

Ass. It was known in the hour that a building -- I dunno from "7" --
was sufficiently damaged by the junk on and against it as to
constitute a hazard to itself and the surround.
It was dropped in on itself so that it wouldn't fall sideways.
IIRC, one smaller service building (mostly automated) was already
crushed.

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Dennis M. Hammes, Oct 25, 2007