Looking for a job

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  1. thing

    thing Guest

    If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?

    Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....

    thanks

    Thing
    thing, Jan 21, 2005
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  2. thing

    SNOman Guest

    thing wrote:
    > If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >
    > Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....
    >
    > thanks
    >
    > Thing
    >

    You could ask at your local Pak N Save :)

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3157852a28,00.html




    I know it says lower north island but hey I've just opened a beer and
    it's gone straight to my head :)
    SNOman, Jan 21, 2005
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  3. thing said the following on 21/01/2005 4:01 p.m.:
    > If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >
    > Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....
    >
    > thanks
    >
    > Thing
    >

    Seek list a few in ChCh a now and then in Nelson and the odd one in
    Dunedin, It appears there is very little need for IT in the South
    Island, I have been watching for a while now.



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    Collector»NZ, Jan 21, 2005
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  4. Collector»NZ wrote:
    >> If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >> Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....


    > Seek list a few in ChCh a now and then in Nelson and the odd one in
    > Dunedin, It appears there is very little need for IT in the South
    > Island, I have been watching for a while now.


    In Dunedin the need is high, but the community almost always knows
    someone who knows someone who can do the job, so a lot of it is not
    advertised... if you're coming from outside, it is fairly hard until you
    have become known in the area.
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Jan 21, 2005
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  5. Dave - Dave.net.nz said the following on 21/01/2005 4:42 p.m.:
    > Collector»NZ wrote:
    >
    >>> If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >>> Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....

    >
    >
    >> Seek list a few in ChCh a now and then in Nelson and the odd one in
    >> Dunedin, It appears there is very little need for IT in the South
    >> Island, I have been watching for a while now.

    >
    >
    > In Dunedin the need is high, but the community almost always knows
    > someone who knows someone who can do the job, so a lot of it is not
    > advertised... if you're coming from outside, it is fairly hard until you
    > have become known in the area.

    Yep a typical South Island culture, it was like it when i left the south
    and no doubt will be like it when/if i return

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    Collector»NZ, Jan 21, 2005
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  6. Collector»NZ wrote:
    >>> Seek list a few in ChCh a now and then in Nelson and the odd one in
    >>> Dunedin, It appears there is very little need for IT in the South
    >>> Island, I have been watching for a while now.


    >> In Dunedin the need is high, but the community almost always knows
    >> someone who knows someone who can do the job, so a lot of it is not
    >> advertised... if you're coming from outside, it is fairly hard until
    >> you have become known in the area.


    > Yep a typical South Island culture, it was like it when i left the south
    > and no doubt will be like it when/if i return


    I left for two years, came back, and was re-asymilated within a month :)
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Jan 21, 2005
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  7. Dave - Dave.net.nz said the following on 21/01/2005 4:52 p.m.:
    > Collector»NZ wrote:
    >
    >>>> Seek list a few in ChCh a now and then in Nelson and the odd one in
    >>>> Dunedin, It appears there is very little need for IT in the South
    >>>> Island, I have been watching for a while now.

    >
    >
    >>> In Dunedin the need is high, but the community almost always knows
    >>> someone who knows someone who can do the job, so a lot of it is not
    >>> advertised... if you're coming from outside, it is fairly hard until
    >>> you have become known in the area.

    >
    >
    >> Yep a typical South Island culture, it was like it when i left the
    >> south and no doubt will be like it when/if i return

    >
    >
    > I left for two years, came back, and was re-asymilated within a month :)

    I have been away for 30 years off and on, spent a year and a half back
    in Dunedin about 20 years ago, but would love to come back again.



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    Collector»NZ, Jan 21, 2005
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  8. Collector»NZ wrote:
    >> I left for two years, came back, and was re-asymilated within a month :)


    > I have been away for 30 years off and on, spent a year and a half back
    > in Dunedin about 20 years ago, but would love to come back again.


    once the house is sorted(just bought a wreck), you're welcome to stay.
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, Jan 21, 2005
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  9. thing

    thing Guest

    Collector»NZ wrote:
    > thing said the following on 21/01/2005 4:01 p.m.:
    >
    >> If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >>
    >> Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....
    >>
    >> thanks
    >>
    >> Thing
    >>

    > Seek list a few in ChCh a now and then in Nelson and the odd one in
    > Dunedin, It appears there is very little need for IT in the South
    > Island, I have been watching for a while now.
    >
    >
    >


    Ive been watching for about a year....very little.....not one job to
    interest me....

    regards

    Thing
    thing, Jan 21, 2005
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    joe_90 Guest

    thing wrote:

    > Ive been watching for about a year....very little.....not one job to
    > interest me....


    It doesn't really stand well with the 'skills shortage' claim that is
    continually trotted out.
    joe_90, Jan 22, 2005
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  11. thing

    Mercury Guest

    where are you looking?
    print media has a response rate of < 10% that of online advertising (for IT
    positions).
    IE a position advertised in both attracted 96% of responses from online
    advertising and 4% from the paper.
    92% of applications were by email... Majority were in region, a few out of
    region, and 1 was overseas. When the majority of applicants are in region,
    any out of region will not get a look in so long as candidate quality is
    good.

    FYI:
    Cover letters must address the requirements of the position and how your
    nomination will satisfy the stated requirements. CV's must detail that -
    highlight how qual's and exp' address the position requirements.

    So, each application needs to specifically address the position and answer
    the questions How and Why you are a good candidate. Reaserach the company,
    the technology they use...

    Some think a generic flat CV covering all experience with "equal" detail is
    OK. Some think a rewrite for a specific position is not telling the truth.
    The important thing is to address the requirements and not bore the reader
    with unncessary detail about irrelevant exeperience. Think Expand /
    Collapse - particularly if the cv would end up being too long. It is
    important to answer all questions in the CV. EG where do you..., how long
    did you..., what level of ... did you do, and when.., along with what were
    you doing in between from the time you left school.

    BOL.

    "thing" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >
    > Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....
    >
    > thanks
    >
    > Thing
    >
    Mercury, Jan 22, 2005
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  12. thing

    thing Guest

    Mercury wrote:
    > where are you looking?


    stuff.co.nz, jobuniverse.co.nz, seek.co.nz, specific agencies like elan,
    sapphire etc etc, left CVs with local small agencies in Nelson.

    I was just wondering if I had missed any bases.

    > print media has a response rate of < 10% that of online advertising (for IT
    > positions).
    > IE a position advertised in both attracted 96% of responses from online
    > advertising and 4% from the paper.
    > 92% of applications were by email... Majority were in region, a few out of
    > region, and 1 was overseas. When the majority of applicants are in region,
    > any out of region will not get a look in so long as candidate quality is
    > good.


    Yes my experience agrees, one job they rang after 7~8 weeks inviting me
    for an interview (they tried to claim 4 when I said it was ages ago but
    I had the covering letter on my PC). By then of course I had just taken
    a new job.....I can but assume the local in region ppl did not stack up
    so reluctantly they went outside.

    > FYI:
    > Cover letters must address the requirements of the position and how your
    > nomination will satisfy the stated requirements. CV's must detail that -
    > highlight how qual's and exp' address the position requirements.
    >
    > So, each application needs to specifically address the position and answer
    > the questions How and Why you are a good candidate. Reaserach the company,
    > the technology they use...
    >
    > Some think a generic flat CV covering all experience with "equal" detail is
    > OK. Some think a rewrite for a specific position is not telling the truth.
    > The important thing is to address the requirements and not bore the reader
    > with unncessary detail about irrelevant exeperience. Think Expand /
    > Collapse - particularly if the cv would end up being too long. It is
    > important to answer all questions in the CV. EG where do you..., how long
    > did you..., what level of ... did you do, and when.., along with what were
    > you doing in between from the time you left school.
    >
    > BOL.


    Standard proceedure.....

    I normally do a good but short covering letter not more than 1 A4 sheet
    covering any specific points / requirements raised in the job advert and
    how I meet them. Then I do minor edits to my CV if worthwhile to
    highlight those points of interest or expand on areas.

    eg I might just say RedHat kickstart experience in my normal CV, but if
    an employer asked for kickstart experience, I'd expand it to say,
    several versions of RH and Fedora, also customised builds using
    scripting per machine, fully patched, specific files restored via legato
    etc. etc. based on the machines MAC address...

    regards

    Thing
    thing, Jan 22, 2005
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  13. thing

    froggy Guest

    On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:01:27 +1300, thing wrote:

    > If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >
    > Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....
    >
    > thanks
    >
    > Thing


    have you tried cold calling companies/ making friends with their it staff?
    judging by some of the replies .. its not what you know.. its who you
    know... as per normal :\
    froggy, Jan 22, 2005
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  14. thing

    John Doe Guest

    "Collector»NZ" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > thing said the following on 21/01/2005 4:01 p.m.:
    >> If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >>
    >> Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....
    >>
    >> thanks
    >>
    >> Thing
    >>

    > Seek list a few in ChCh a now and then in Nelson and the odd one in
    > Dunedin, It appears there is very little need for IT in the South Island,
    > I have been watching for a while now.


    In Nelson? There are simply no IT jobs there. Dunedin is like heaven by
    comparison.
    John Doe, Jan 22, 2005
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  15. thing

    thing Guest

    froggy wrote:
    > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:01:27 +1300, thing wrote:
    >
    >
    >>If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >>
    >>Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....
    >>
    >>thanks
    >>
    >>Thing

    >
    >
    > have you tried cold calling companies/ making friends with their it staff?
    > judging by some of the replies .. its not what you know.. its who you
    > know... as per normal :\
    >


    yep, I agree.

    However, if a compnay just wants to employ people "it knows" then would
    I want to work for such a company?

    Probably not....

    regards

    Thing
    thing, Jan 22, 2005
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  16. thing

    Mercury Guest

    advertising and interviewing is a hassles. a big risky hassle.
    if an existing employee knows someone, that is a verified reference and part
    of the job done already.



    "thing" <> wrote in message news:41f2c9c6$...
    > froggy wrote:
    >> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:01:27 +1300, thing wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >>>
    >>>Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....
    >>>
    >>>thanks
    >>>
    >>>Thing

    >>
    >>
    >> have you tried cold calling companies/ making friends with their it
    >> staff?
    >> judging by some of the replies .. its not what you know.. its who you
    >> know... as per normal :\
    >>

    >
    > yep, I agree.
    >
    > However, if a compnay just wants to employ people "it knows" then would I
    > want to work for such a company?
    >
    > Probably not....
    >
    > regards
    >
    > Thing
    >
    >
    Mercury, Jan 22, 2005
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  17. John Doe said the following on 23/01/2005 10:14 a.m.:
    > "Collector»NZ" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>thing said the following on 21/01/2005 4:01 p.m.:
    >>
    >>>If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >>>
    >>>Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....
    >>>
    >>>thanks
    >>>
    >>>Thing
    >>>

    >>
    >>Seek list a few in ChCh a now and then in Nelson and the odd one in
    >>Dunedin, It appears there is very little need for IT in the South Island,
    >>I have been watching for a while now.

    >
    >
    > In Nelson? There are simply no IT jobs there. Dunedin is like heaven by
    > comparison.
    >
    >

    About 5 advertised in the last three months that I know of.


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    Collector»NZ, Jan 23, 2005
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  18. thing

    thing Guest

    Collector»NZ wrote:
    > John Doe said the following on 23/01/2005 10:14 a.m.:
    >
    >> "Collector»NZ" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>
    >>> thing said the following on 21/01/2005 4:01 p.m.:
    >>>
    >>>> If I was looking for an IT job on South Island, where would I look?
    >>>>
    >>>> Most agencies seem to have little outside WGTN and Auckland....
    >>>>
    >>>> thanks
    >>>>
    >>>> Thing
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Seek list a few in ChCh a now and then in Nelson and the odd one in
    >>> Dunedin, It appears there is very little need for IT in the South
    >>> Island, I have been watching for a while now.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> In Nelson? There are simply no IT jobs there. Dunedin is like heaven
    >> by comparison.
    >>
    >>

    > About 5 advertised in the last three months that I know of.
    >
    >


    Where were they advertised?

    regards

    Thing
    thing, Jan 24, 2005
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  19. thing

    thing Guest

    Mercury wrote:
    > advertising and interviewing is a hassles. a big risky hassle.
    > if an existing employee knows someone, that is a verified reference and part
    > of the job done already.
    >


    Except the company is limiting itself in its choice of emloyees. While
    doing this to get get a sweeper upper or something might be OK, if
    looking to employ someone more important to the organisation just taking
    who you know is to my mind limited. If the company is limiting itself
    like this do I want to be involved with it? for me the answer is no.

    regards

    Thing
    thing, Jan 24, 2005
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  20. thing

    Tim Guest

    You sound a little defeatest... If ONE position is to be filled, then only
    ONE person is need apply.

    It is simply a matter of expediency. If say an IT Manager that has enough to
    do does not have someone suitable at hand and has to advertise then there is
    a big time consuming process to go through. Many dread interviewing, the
    amount of time it takes, sifting through the no hopers, reading volumes of
    CV's when ultimately it comes down to creating a short list to interview
    based on set criteria, interviewing, perhaps 2 or 3 times, and then
    selecting. A CV can read well - be perfect and the candidate can be a
    shocker. A candidate can pass everything then at the last moment pop up some
    unrealistic expectation on salary or something else and wipe out the
    process.

    If 50 people apply, 25 may seem sutiable from CV's. 5 may seem suitable from
    interviews. Only ONE needs to stand out. So what really is too wrong with
    bypassing the process and getting someone through a verbal reference that
    already checks out?

    Push your CV out and get it in front of those that matter. If you have a
    well written CV, post it out, and perhaps offer yourself for interview even
    if no jobs are currently available then you are putting yourself in a
    similar position.

    Some people are shockers when it comes to hiring: They persistently hire the
    wrong person. A direct referal can save them from making too many mistakes.

    If you wish, I can prrof read your CV for you. post back if you want with a
    munged email.



    "thing" <> wrote in message news:41f53ad5$...
    > Mercury wrote:
    >> advertising and interviewing is a hassles. a big risky hassle.
    >> if an existing employee knows someone, that is a verified reference and
    >> part of the job done already.
    >>

    >
    > Except the company is limiting itself in its choice of emloyees. While
    > doing this to get get a sweeper upper or something might be OK, if looking
    > to employ someone more important to the organisation just taking who you
    > know is to my mind limited. If the company is limiting itself like this do
    > I want to be involved with it? for me the answer is no.
    >
    > regards
    >
    > Thing
    >
    Tim, Jan 28, 2005
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