Leica M8 review on Luminous-Landscape

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Kinon O'Cann, Oct 30, 2006.

  1. Kinon O'Cann

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    David J. Littleboy schreef:

    > "Alfred Molon" <> wrote:
    > > Scott W says...
    > >
    > >> Except we have heard for years about how great the Leica is in low
    > >> light, partly because there is no mirror slap and partly because you
    > >> can shoot with the lens wide open. But the 5D will blow away the Leica
    > >> in low light shooting and for a whole lot less money. If your selling
    > >> point has been low light photography for years you better make a
    > >> digital that can work at high ISOs.

    > >
    > > Then just make a cooperation between Canon and Leica, placing the sensor
    > > and electronics of Canon into a Leica M8 body. Combine the best of both
    > > worlds - Canon's low noise electronics with Leica's no-mirror and shoot-
    > > wide-open camera.

    >
    > If you actually look at the sort of images Leica street shooters have
    > produced, what you see is grainy, blurry, out of focus mush that is
    > interesting and forgivable for its content. If you really tried, a 5D with
    > the 35/2.0 (or other prime in the 24 to 85mm range) would produce worlds
    > better images for that work. You can do the same zone focus game (and
    > produce the same out of focus mush) as the Leica, or you can just turn on
    > all the AF points and actually get your subject in focus some percentage of
    > the time. Mirror slap simply isn't an issue at the shutter speeds and focal
    > lengths used.
    >
    > The Leica is a buck-nekked emperor, the 5D the far better tool.
    >


    I feel better now.

    > David J. Littleboy
    > Tokyo, Japan
    , Nov 2, 2006
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  2. frederick wrote:
    > David J. Littleboy wrote:
    >> "Scott W" <> wrote:
    >>> Annika1980 wrote:
    >>>> frederick wrote:
    >>>>> If you fit some Shakti stones to the M8, then you will clearly see the
    >>>>> je ne sais quoi intangible qualities that Leica offers.
    >>>> Just don't forget to wash them in the Seismic Sink.
    >>> Hey, we are still a bit jumpy about any thing seismic around here.

    >>
    >> Welcome to my world...
    >>

    > And greetings back from the shaky isles.
    > http://www.geonet.org.nz/
    > Always waiting for the big one...


    Some folks in the SF Bay Area are, too. Doesn't shake up real estate
    prices much, though.

    Oddly enough, the most damaging quake in all of the U.S. is likely to
    occur in the "Middle West" - the Mississippi Valley. There, the plates
    aren't fractured, so a large one will cause extensive damage over many
    hundreds of miles.

    --
    John McWilliams Eight miles East of SF, right on the Hayward Fault.
    John McWilliams, Nov 2, 2006
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  3. Kinon O'Cann

    Bill Funk Guest

    On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:16:00 +1300, frederick <> wrote:

    >Scott W wrote:
    >> frederick wrote:
    >>> Annika1980 wrote:
    >>>> Kinon O'Cann wrote:
    >>>>> Reichman's review is up, and if you wish to believe him, Leica has hit a
    >>>>> home run with this one.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> www.luminous-landscape.com
    >>>> That review makes me want to go out and buy a new camera ... a Canon 5D.
    >>>>
    >>> If you fit some Shakti stones to the M8, then you will clearly see the
    >>> je ne sais quoi intangible qualities that Leica offers.
    >>> Shakti stones have many more published favourable reviews than the M8
    >>> itself.
    >>> http://www.shakti-innovations.com/audiovideo.htm
    >>> The patented Noise Reduction Technology should be exactly and perfectly
    >>> as effective on digital cameras as it is for audio applications.
    >>> Then again, if they work for the M8, they'll also work for the 5d.

    >>
    >> That is too funny. When we use to do EMI testing of new products we
    >> always had a big box of ferrites, which is what I am sure that stone
    >> it. Sure it reduces EMI but you can get the same thing for a fraction
    >> the cost at many places. The idea of just placing the ferrite near the
    >> device in question is pretty funny as well. Mostly they don't do a
    >> thing to improve performance, more to keep a device from radiating too
    >> much EMI.
    >>
    >> Scott
    >>

    >Oh you cynic!
    >Just like the M8, Shakti Stones have reviewers singing their praises.
    >The Leica M8 and Shakti stones are targeting exactly the same
    >econo-intellectual demographic. Shakti and Leica should work together.


    Now, if they could only corner the market in cow magnets, they'd
    *really* have something!
    --
    Bill Funk
    replace "g" with "a"
    Bill Funk, Nov 2, 2006
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  4. Kinon O'Cann

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    "Annika1980" <> writes:

    > Kinon O'Cann wrote:


    >> Reichman's review is up, and if you wish to believe him, Leica has hit a
    >> home run with this one.

    >
    >> www.luminous-landscape.com


    > That review makes me want to go out and buy a new camera ... a Canon
    > 5D.


    I shot 2 snaps of my daughter the other day. 50 f1.4, hand held, shop
    lighting. About as bad as it can be. I really should not have, there is
    no way I can find the $$ :(


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    , Nov 7, 2006
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  5. Kinon O'Cann

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    frederick <> writes:

    > Barry Pearson wrote:


    >> The Nikon D70 (and perhaps other Nikons?) is claimed to have a
    >> lossy, but "visually lossless", compression of raw data before
    >> storage. This was apparently to achieve smaller raw files. I assume
    >> the M8 has it for the same reason. It enables the raw file for a 10
    >> MP camera to be 10 MB without any other compression, and if it is
    >> run through the DNG Converter to (losslessly) compress it, that
    >> typically reduces to 7 MB or less. (And the D70 had a weaker than
    >> normal anti-alias filter).


    > Have you seen examples comparing lossy with lossless raw format on a
    > camera that has both options? That I haven't seen any posted on the
    > internet perhaps indicates that there's nothing to see? Perhaps I
    > haven't looked hard enough.


    If you go to the iris software site, and track links from there you
    will find an article on this. A search on `NEF Mode 3' may also work.

    Sorry, I don't have the URL anymore.

    --
    Paul Repacholi 1 Crescent Rd.,
    +61 (08) 9257-1001 Kalamunda.
    West Australia 6076
    comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot
    Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.
    EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.
    , Nov 9, 2006
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