kindle/e-books in NZ

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by JohnO, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. JohnO

    JohnO Guest

    Hello all,

    The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.

    Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    it's a shame to not have web/email.

    Cheers
    JohnO
    JohnO, Feb 6, 2012
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  2. JohnO

    JohnO Guest

    On Feb 7, 12:52 pm, JohnO <> wrote:
    > Hello all,
    >
    > The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    > there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    > Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    > battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    > incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    > have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
    >
    > Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    > general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    > capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    > it's a shame to not have web/email.
    >
    > Cheers
    > JohnO


    Got impatient and ordered a Kindle Touch direct from Amazon. Came to NZ
    $200 incl expedited shipping to NZ - cf to Tricky Dicky $189 for the
    lower spec non-touch Kindle. Also see Trademe grey importers asking NZ
    $230-$240 for a new Kindle Touch with the advertisements on the screen
    saver.
    JohnO, Feb 7, 2012
    #2
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  3. On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:52:46 -0800 (PST), JohnO <>
    wrote:

    >Hello all,
    >
    >The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    >there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    >Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    >battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    >incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    >have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
    >
    >Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    >general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    >capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    >it's a shame to not have web/email.
    >
    >Cheers
    >JohnO



    Please tell me how do I read my Colored PDF Books on it, they are a
    totally waste of time, some thing in no way replaces a book a Netpad
    would be better or a iPAD...
    Frank Williams, Feb 7, 2012
    #3
  4. JohnO

    victor Guest

    On 7/02/2012 12:52 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    > Hello all,
    >
    > The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    > there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    > Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    > battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    > incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    > have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
    >
    > Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    > general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    > capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    > it's a shame to not have web/email.
    >
    > Cheers
    > JohnO


    I do most normal light level reading on a kindle, and I have various
    ebook clients on ipad, Galaxy phone etc.
    The kindle was the best functioning e-paper reader when I was comparing
    them, and it has the least distracting page turn. It is a lot less
    tiring than a light emitting display. (It even does text to speech, I
    want to put a Stephen Hawking book on it).
    The battery life is extraordinary especially if you turn the wifi off.
    I have quite a lot of books in .mobi format in the calibre library
    software, and quite a few in archive that I have purchased on Amazon.
    They stay permanently available on Amazon to any device you want to read
    them on.
    Calibre allows transfer to the kindle by emailing the kindle's email
    address, and I have a browser extension that pushes content to the
    kindle also.
    The kindle is also super lightweight. 224g compared to ~750g for an
    ipad, and the ergonomics of the page buttons are really good.
    There is geo-blocking of some titles on Amazon presumably it isn't cost
    effective for them to buy worldwide distribution rights for this region,
    it can be defeated by entering a US shipping address on your account and
    changing your country.
    http://mebooks.co.nz sell New Zealand e-books in both .epub (ipad) and
    ..mobi (kindle) formats without drm so you can format convert with calibre.
    I don't think you would regret buying the kindle for reading in
    preference to a tablet device.
    victor, Feb 7, 2012
    #4
  5. JohnO

    victor Guest

    On 7/02/2012 6:16 p.m., Frank Williams wrote:
    > On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:52:46 -0800 (PST), JohnO<>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Hello all,
    >>
    >> The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    >> there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    >> Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    >> battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    >> incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    >> have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
    >>
    >> Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    >> general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    >> capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    >> it's a shame to not have web/email.
    >>
    >> Cheers
    >> JohnO

    >
    >
    > Please tell me how do I read my Colored PDF Books on it, they are a
    > totally waste of time, some thing in no way replaces a book a Netpad
    > would be better or a iPAD...
    >
    >


    Get both, e-readers are cheap and light, tablets are three times the weight.
    victor, Feb 7, 2012
    #5
  6. JohnO

    Enkidu Guest

    On 07/02/12 12:52, JohnO wrote:
    > Hello all,
    >
    > The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    > there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    > Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    > battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    > incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    > have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
    >
    > Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    > general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    > capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    > it's a shame to not have web/email.
    >

    Short battery life? I find that one charge lasts me about half a week.

    Cheers,

    Cliff

    --

    The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.

    The end excuses any evil - Sophocles
    Enkidu, Feb 7, 2012
    #6
  7. JohnO

    Enkidu Guest

    On 07/02/12 18:16, Frank Williams wrote:
    > On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:52:46 -0800 (PST), JohnO<>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Hello all,
    >>
    >> The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    >> there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    >> Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    >> battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    >> incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    >> have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
    >>
    >> Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    >> general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    >> capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    >> it's a shame to not have web/email.

    >
    > Please tell me how do I read my Colored PDF Books on it, they are a
    > totally waste of time, some thing in no way replaces a book a Netpad
    > would be better or a iPAD...
    >

    My little 'el cheapo' e-book reader handles color PDFs just fine. Which
    ones don't?

    Cheers,

    Cliff

    --

    The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.

    The end excuses any evil - Sophocles
    Enkidu, Feb 7, 2012
    #7
  8. JohnO

    JohnO Guest

    On Feb 7, 7:44 pm, Enkidu <cliffp@bogus> wrote:
    > On 07/02/12 12:52, JohnO wrote:> Hello all,
    >
    > > The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    > > there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    > > Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    > > battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    > > incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    > > have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.

    >
    > > Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    > > general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    > > capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    > > it's a shame to not have web/email.

    >
    > Short battery life? I find that one charge lasts me about half a week.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Cliff
    >
    > --
    >
    > The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.
    >
    > The end excuses any evil - Sophocles


    Thanks for all the comments everyone - I feel vindicated in ordering
    the Kindle touch - especially seeing it got the prestigious CrapMark
    TM from Woger.

    Cliff - re battery life - most of the tablets only claim 4-8 hour
    battery life - probably not enough for me to get through a Ken Follett
    over a long weekend.
    JohnO, Feb 7, 2012
    #8
  9. JohnO

    JohnO Guest

    On Feb 7, 6:16 pm, Frank Williams <> wrote:
    > On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:52:46 -0800 (PST), JohnO <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > >Hello all,

    >
    > >The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    > >there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    > >Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    > >battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    > >incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    > >have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.

    >
    > >Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    > >general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    > >capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    > >it's a shame to not have web/email.

    >
    > >Cheers
    > >JohnO

    >
    > Please tell me how do I read my Colored PDF Books on it, they are a
    > totally waste of time, some thing in no way replaces a book a Netpad
    > would be better or a iPAD...


    Woger, we (and most people, probably) intend to read novels that were
    published in B&W anyway. I would not recommend one for you to read
    your comics.

    As to Netpads and iPads - there are numerous reasons not to use them
    for reading books that I can see, including:
    - The display technology is not suitable for more than about half an
    hour reading
    - the battery life is too short
    - they are more bulky than a book
    - they are more expensive
    JohnO, Feb 7, 2012
    #9
  10. JohnO

    JohnO Guest

    On Feb 7, 6:52 pm, victor <> wrote:
    > On 7/02/2012 12:52 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > Hello all,

    >
    > > The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    > > there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    > > Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    > > battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    > > incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    > > have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.

    >
    > > Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    > > general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    > > capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    > > it's a shame to not have web/email.

    >
    > > Cheers
    > > JohnO

    >
    > I do most normal light level reading on a kindle, and I have various
    > ebook clients on ipad, Galaxy phone etc.
    > The kindle was the best functioning e-paper reader when I was comparing
    > them, and it has the least distracting page turn. It is a lot less
    > tiring than a light emitting display. (It even does text to speech, I
    > want to put a Stephen Hawking book on it).
    > The battery life is extraordinary especially if you turn the wifi off.
    > I have quite a lot of books in .mobi format in the calibre library
    > software, and quite a few in archive that I have purchased on Amazon.
    > They stay permanently available on Amazon to any device you want to read
    > them on.
    > Calibre allows transfer to the kindle by emailing the kindle's email
    > address, and I have a browser extension that pushes content to the
    > kindle also.
    > The kindle is also super lightweight. 224g compared to ~750g for an
    > ipad, and the ergonomics of the page buttons are really good.
    > There is geo-blocking of some titles on Amazon presumably it isn't cost
    > effective for them to buy worldwide distribution rights for this region,
    > it can be defeated by entering a US shipping address on your account and
    > changing your country.http://mebooks.co.nzsell New Zealand e-books in both .epub (ipad) and
    > .mobi (kindle) formats without drm so you can format convert with calibre..
    > I don't think you would regret buying the kindle for reading in
    > preference to a tablet device.


    Thanks victor - that was another thing I meant to ask - about
    availability of titles here. I see Auckland Libraries don't do Kindle
    which is a shame.
    JohnO, Feb 7, 2012
    #10
  11. JohnO

    Enkidu Guest

    On 08/02/12 08:40, JohnO wrote:
    >
    > Cliff - re battery life - most of the tablets only claim 4-8 hour
    > battery life - probably not enough for me to get through a Ken Follett
    > over a long weekend.
    >

    Sure, if that is *all* you do. :cool: But if you recharge it overnight it
    should last. I've used one for a year and not had battery issues.

    Cheers,

    Cliff

    --

    The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.

    The end excuses any evil - Sophocles
    Enkidu, Feb 7, 2012
    #11
  12. JohnO

    JohnO Guest

    On Feb 8, 9:02 am, Enkidu <cliffp@bogus> wrote:
    > On 08/02/12 08:40, JohnO wrote:
    >
    > > Cliff - re battery life - most of the tablets only claim 4-8 hour
    > > battery life - probably not enough for me to get through a Ken Follett
    > > over a long weekend.

    >
    >  >
    > Sure, if that is *all* you do. :cool:


    We had a very rainy Christmas and I knocked off 1000 pages of 'Fall of
    Giants'. Great read. You socialists will really enjoy the shabby
    treatment of the Russian peasants and Welsh miners in the lead up to
    WW1.

    > But if you recharge it overnight it
    > should last. I've used one for a year and not had battery issues.


    Ok. But you can't spend that much time actually reading a tablet
    without getting sore eyes - so I'm told?

    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Cliff
    >
    > --
    >
    > The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.
    >
    > The end excuses any evil - Sophocles
    JohnO, Feb 7, 2012
    #12
  13. JohnO

    Lodi Guest

    > JohnO wrote:
    >
    > Got impatient and ordered a Kindle Touch direct from Amazon. Came to NZ
    > $200 incl expedited shipping to NZ - cf to Tricky Dicky $189 for the
    > lower spec non-touch Kindle. Also see Trademe grey importers asking NZ
    > $230-$240 for a new Kindle Touch with the advertisements on the screen
    > saver.


    Bought a Kindle from amazon.us last October. Delivered to door for NZ$169.
    Stuck it to an old leather folder I had lying around. It's the best $169
    I've ever spent.

    Strangely enough I use it to read ebooks and nothing else. Grab most of them
    off irc and if there's an author I like then I'll spend the money.

    Can read for hours with no eye strain. Battery lasts for weeks. Anyway it
    only takes three hours to recharge when I plug it into a usb socket.

    I keep everything neat and tidy with Calibre. And I use mobidedrm when I get
    ebooks from my local library (which is hardly ever as they only issue an
    ebook to one reader at a time. Ridiculous)

    Lodi
    Lodi, Feb 7, 2012
    #13
  14. In article <dcf28aa5-04c3-4c93-b0ea-692d8abbf6f0
    @v6g2000pba.googlegroups.com>, says...
    >
    > On Feb 7, 12:52 pm, JohnO <> wrote:
    > > Hello all,
    > >
    > > The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    > > there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    > > Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    > > battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    > > incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    > > have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
    > >
    > > Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    > > general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    > > capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    > > it's a shame to not have web/email.
    > >
    > > Cheers
    > > JohnO

    >
    > Got impatient and ordered a Kindle Touch direct from Amazon. Came to NZ
    > $200 incl expedited shipping to NZ - cf to Tricky Dicky $189 for the
    > lower spec non-touch Kindle. Also see Trademe grey importers asking NZ
    > $230-$240 for a new Kindle Touch with the advertisements on the screen
    > saver.



    So they're shipping to NZ now? I tried to get a kindle touch back in
    November and I got told they're only selling to US addresses. Go figure.
    I had to rope my nephew in the US into getting one as X-mess present for
    my wife.

    We have both a kindle 4 and a kindle touch in the house. The kindle
    touch is heavier and my wife can't operate it without lots of cursing
    and grumbling, she touches that screen wrong and it jumps a chapter
    forward or backwards and she doesn't know where she got to or how to get
    back (we're going to end up swapping devices). I also have a strong
    suspicion that the kindle touch uses a lot more power, even with the
    wireless off.
    The kindle 4 I have is the one with ads on it, and they bug me. The
    thing even has the cheek to ask me to turn the wireless on so it can
    download more ads. I'd happily spend the extra to get an ad-less one
    (which I with the kindle touch).

    Both have experimental web browsers b.t.w.

    The battery life 'specs' are a joke: 2 months if you read 1/2 an hour a
    day. What real life bookworm reads 1/2 an hour a day, I want to know?
    Still, just a short while on the usb cable now and again keeps it nicely
    topped up.

    Get a donation-ware program called Calibre and it will find ebooks all
    over the globe for you. You type in your author or title and it will
    search any old number of ebok vendors and free ebook archives all over
    the globe for an ebook version, and convert epub format to kindle for
    instance also. It's also a great program for managing your virtual
    library.

    Said nephew b.t.w. has expressed that he will buy a kindle also because
    he can't read books on his ipad2 when outside.

    h.t.h. -P.
    Peter Huebner, Feb 7, 2012
    #14
  15. JohnO

    JohnO Guest

    On Feb 8, 11:38 am, Lodi <> wrote:
    > > JohnO wrote:

    >
    > > Got impatient and ordered a Kindle Touch direct from Amazon. Came to NZ
    > > $200 incl expedited shipping to NZ - cf to Tricky Dicky $189 for the
    > > lower spec non-touch Kindle. Also see Trademe grey importers asking NZ
    > > $230-$240 for a new Kindle Touch with the advertisements on the screen
    > > saver.

    >
    > Bought a Kindle from amazon.us last October. Delivered to door for NZ$169..
    > Stuck it to an old leather folder I had lying around. It's the best $169
    > I've ever spent.
    >
    > Strangely enough I use it to read ebooks and nothing else. Grab most of them
    > off irc and if there's an author I like then I'll spend the money.
    >
    > Can read for hours with no eye strain. Battery lasts for weeks. Anyway it
    > only takes three hours to recharge when I plug it into a usb socket.
    >
    > I keep everything neat and tidy with Calibre. And I use mobidedrm when I get
    > ebooks from my local library (which is hardly ever as they only issue an
    > ebook to one reader at a time. Ridiculous)
    >
    > Lodi


    Cool info - thanks.
    JohnO, Feb 7, 2012
    #15
  16. In article <>,
    says...
    >
    > Please tell me how do I read my Colored PDF Books on it, they are a
    > totally waste of time, some thing in no way replaces a book a Netpad
    > would be better or a iPAD...
    >
    >
    >


    I agree. "See Spot Run" in black and white on a kindle would not be a
    particularly enchanting experience.

    -P.
    Peter Huebner, Feb 8, 2012
    #16
  17. On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:46:29 +1300, Enkidu <cliffp@bogus> wrote:

    >On 07/02/12 18:16, Frank Williams wrote:
    >> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:52:46 -0800 (PST), JohnO<>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hello all,
    >>>
    >>> The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    >>> there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    >>> Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    >>> battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    >>> incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    >>> have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
    >>>
    >>> Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    >>> general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    >>> capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    >>> it's a shame to not have web/email.

    >>
    >> Please tell me how do I read my Colored PDF Books on it, they are a
    >> totally waste of time, some thing in no way replaces a book a Netpad
    >> would be better or a iPAD...
    >>

    >My little 'el cheapo' e-book reader handles color PDFs just fine. Which
    >ones don't?
    >
    >Cheers,
    >
    >Cliff




    Yes I had one it lasted 4 days utter Crap, got my Money back, totally
    useless in reading PDF Files.
    Frank Williams, Feb 8, 2012
    #17
  18. On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:40:12 -0800 (PST), JohnO <>
    wrote:

    >On Feb 7, 7:44 pm, Enkidu <cliffp@bogus> wrote:
    >> On 07/02/12 12:52, JohnO wrote:> Hello all,
    >>
    >> > The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    >> > there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    >> > Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    >> > battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    >> > incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    >> > have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.

    >>
    >> > Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    >> > general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    >> > capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    >> > it's a shame to not have web/email.

    >>
    >> Short battery life? I find that one charge lasts me about half a week.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> Cliff
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.
    >>
    >> The end excuses any evil - Sophocles

    >
    >Thanks for all the comments everyone - I feel vindicated in ordering
    >the Kindle touch - especially seeing it got the prestigious CrapMark
    >TM from Woger.



    Why are you buying the Older model as its been replaced with the Kindle
    Fire .



    >Cliff - re battery life - most of the tablets only claim 4-8 hour
    >battery life - probably not enough for me to get through a Ken Follett
    >over a long weekend.
    Frank Williams, Feb 8, 2012
    #18
  19. JohnO

    JohnO Guest

    On Feb 8, 12:57 pm, Peter Huebner <> wrote:
    > In article <dcf28aa5-04c3-4c93-b0ea-692d8abbf6f0
    > @v6g2000pba.googlegroups.com>, says...
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Feb 7, 12:52 pm, JohnO <> wrote:
    > > > Hello all,

    >
    > > > The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    > > > there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    > > > Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    > > > battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    > > > incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    > > > have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.

    >
    > > > Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    > > > general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    > > > capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    > > > it's a shame to not have web/email.

    >
    > > > Cheers
    > > > JohnO

    >
    > > Got impatient and ordered a Kindle Touch direct from Amazon. Came to NZ
    > > $200 incl expedited shipping to NZ - cf to Tricky Dicky $189 for the
    > > lower spec non-touch Kindle. Also see Trademe grey importers asking NZ
    > > $230-$240 for a new Kindle Touch with the advertisements on the screen
    > > saver.

    >
    > So they're shipping to NZ now? I tried to get a kindle touch back in
    > November and I got told they're only selling to US addresses. Go figure.
    > I had to rope my nephew in the US into getting one as X-mess present for
    > my wife.
    >
    > We have both a kindle 4 and a kindle touch in the house. The kindle
    > touch is heavier and my wife can't operate it without lots of cursing
    > and grumbling, she touches that screen wrong and it jumps a chapter
    > forward or backwards and she doesn't know where she got to or how to get
    > back (we're going to end up swapping devices). I also have a strong
    > suspicion that the kindle touch uses a lot more power, even with the
    > wireless off.
    > The kindle 4 I have is the one with ads on it, and they bug me. The
    > thing even has the cheek to ask me to turn the wireless on so it can
    > download more ads. I'd happily spend the extra to get an ad-less one
    > (which I with the kindle touch).
    >
    > Both have experimental web browsers b.t.w.
    >
    > The battery life 'specs' are a joke: 2 months if you read 1/2 an hour a
    > day. What real life bookworm reads 1/2 an hour a day, I want to know?
    > Still, just a short while on the usb cable now and again keeps it nicely
    > topped up.
    >
    > Get a donation-ware program called Calibre and it will find ebooks all
    > over the globe for you. You type in your author or title and it will
    > search any old number of ebok vendors and free ebook archives all over
    > the globe for an ebook version, and convert epub format to kindle for
    > instance also. It's also a great program for managing your virtual
    > library.
    >
    > Said nephew b.t.w. has expressed that he will buy a kindle also because
    > he can't read books on his ipad2 when outside.
    >
    > h.t.h.   -P.


    Thanks Peter - yep Amazon ships to NZ now - I guess that's very recent
    news then!
    JohnO, Feb 8, 2012
    #19
  20. On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:43:55 -0800 (PST), JohnO <>
    wrote:

    >On Feb 7, 6:16 pm, Frank Williams <> wrote:
    >> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:52:46 -0800 (PST), JohnO <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> >Hello all,

    >>
    >> >The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
    >> >there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
    >> >Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
    >> >battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
    >> >incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
    >> >have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.

    >>
    >> >Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
    >> >general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
    >> >capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
    >> >it's a shame to not have web/email.

    >>
    >> >Cheers
    >> >JohnO

    >>
    >> Please tell me how do I read my Colored PDF Books on it, they are a
    >> totally waste of time, some thing in no way replaces a book a Netpad
    >> would be better or a iPAD...

    >
    >Woger, we (and most people, probably) intend to read novels that were
    >published in B&W anyway. I would not recommend one for you to read
    >your comics.
    >
    >As to Netpads and iPads - there are numerous reasons not to use them
    >for reading books that I can see, including:
    >- The display technology is not suitable for more than about half an
    >hour reading
    >- the battery life is too short
    >- they are more bulky than a book
    >- they are more expensive




    And they don't read PDF files very well.

    I've tried one, total crap..
    Frank Williams, Feb 8, 2012
    #20
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