Just passed 70-320 - and here is my feedback

Discussion in 'MCAD' started by bb, Apr 29, 2004.

  1. bb

    bb Guest

    I just passed 70-320 with score of 905, for anyone about to take, here
    are some pointers which may be of help...

    *Study Areas*
    (small indicates less than 3 questions on the topic area, medium
    indicates areas you really need to know well to pass the exam)
    small - relationships between datasets expressed in xml
    small - debugging processes and serviced components
    small - deploying serviced components
    small - securing serviced component function calls
    small - windows services
    medium - mbr / mbv remoting objects
    medium - soap headers, advanced web services, tcp/http channels
    medium - hosting remoting objects in iis
    medium - declarative attributes for serviced components

    *Books*
    I used both MSPress and Amit Kalani. Kalani was definately the best, the
    chapter level tests were extremely helpful, url for book is here >
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789728249/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/026-2596496-5435642


    Hope this is of some help, without giving away too much.

    regards

    bb
     
    bb, Apr 29, 2004
    #1
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  2. bb

    Yorkie Guest

    Congratulations! And thanks for the info, as it's going
    to be my next exam.

    Can I ask how many questions you got and the amount of
    time you were allowed ? Is it the standard 55-60
    questions and 2 hours ?

    Also, where all the questions multi-choice or were there
    any drag-and-drop order sequences ?

    Cheers,

    Yorkie


    >-----Original Message-----
    >I just passed 70-320 with score of 905, for anyone about

    to take, here
    >are some pointers which may be of help...
    >
    >*Study Areas*
    >(small indicates less than 3 questions on the topic

    area, medium
    >indicates areas you really need to know well to pass the

    exam)
    >small - relationships between datasets expressed in xml
    >small - debugging processes and serviced components
    >small - deploying serviced components
    >small - securing serviced component function calls
    >small - windows services
    >medium - mbr / mbv remoting objects
    >medium - soap headers, advanced web services, tcp/http

    channels
    >medium - hosting remoting objects in iis
    >medium - declarative attributes for serviced components
    >
    >*Books*
    >I used both MSPress and Amit Kalani. Kalani was

    definately the best, the
    >chapter level tests were extremely helpful, url for book

    is here >
    >http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789728249/ref=s

    r_aps_books_1_1/026-2596496-5435642
    >
    >
    >Hope this is of some help, without giving away too much.
    >
    >regards
    >
    >bb
    >.
    >
     
    Yorkie, Apr 29, 2004
    #2
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  3. bb

    bb Guest

    57 questions in 120 minutes + an extra 15 minutes for a survey at the
    end which i didnt participate in, as i was too excited to get my score.

    all questions were multi choice

    only 2 of the 57 were the multiselect multiple choice questions, i.e.
    select two of the following.

    out of interest, which book (if any) are you using?

    and i forgot to mention in my previous message, things that never came
    up (im not saying dont revise these, but in my experience they were not
    covered)..

    xpath
    xmlschema/xsd
    sqlxml
    xml document validation
    asynchronous calls to remoting or webservices
    xml wire formatting
    soapsuds
    calling unmanaged code



    Yorkie wrote:
    > Congratulations! And thanks for the info, as it's going
    > to be my next exam.
    >
    > Can I ask how many questions you got and the amount of
    > time you were allowed ? Is it the standard 55-60
    > questions and 2 hours ?
    >
    > Also, where all the questions multi-choice or were there
    > any drag-and-drop order sequences ?
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Yorkie
    >
    >
    >
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>I just passed 70-320 with score of 905, for anyone about

    >
    > to take, here
    >
    >>are some pointers which may be of help...
    >>
    >>*Study Areas*
    >>(small indicates less than 3 questions on the topic

    >
    > area, medium
    >
    >>indicates areas you really need to know well to pass the

    >
    > exam)
    >
    >>small - relationships between datasets expressed in xml
    >>small - debugging processes and serviced components
    >>small - deploying serviced components
    >>small - securing serviced component function calls
    >>small - windows services
    >>medium - mbr / mbv remoting objects
    >>medium - soap headers, advanced web services, tcp/http

    >
    > channels
    >
    >>medium - hosting remoting objects in iis
    >>medium - declarative attributes for serviced components
    >>
    >>*Books*
    >>I used both MSPress and Amit Kalani. Kalani was

    >
    > definately the best, the
    >
    >>chapter level tests were extremely helpful, url for book

    >
    > is here >
    >
    >>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789728249/ref=s

    >
    > r_aps_books_1_1/026-2596496-5435642
    >
    >>
    >>Hope this is of some help, without giving away too much.
    >>
    >>regards
    >>
    >>bb
    >>.
    >>
     
    bb, Apr 29, 2004
    #3
  4. bb

    Yorkie Guest

    I've got the full MS Self-paced Training Kit, but after
    buying the SQL Server 2000 book by MS Press for 70-229, I
    wasn't too impressed. I ended up buying the Que book by
    Thomas Moore which helped me pass that exam, so I've now
    gone and bought the Kalani books. Very easy to read and
    nothing like wading through mud like the MS books!

    You got a very good score on the exam! Have you got any
    more lined up, or have you got your MCAD now ?



    >-----Original Message-----
    >57 questions in 120 minutes + an extra 15 minutes for a

    survey at the
    >end which i didnt participate in, as i was too excited

    to get my score.
    >
    >all questions were multi choice
    >
    >only 2 of the 57 were the multiselect multiple choice

    questions, i.e.
    >select two of the following.
    >
    >out of interest, which book (if any) are you using?
    >
    >and i forgot to mention in my previous message, things

    that never came
    >up (im not saying dont revise these, but in my

    experience they were not
    >covered)..
    >
    >xpath
    >xmlschema/xsd
    >sqlxml
    >xml document validation
    >asynchronous calls to remoting or webservices
    >xml wire formatting
    >soapsuds
    >calling unmanaged code
    >
    >
    >
    >Yorkie wrote:
    >> Congratulations! And thanks for the info, as it's

    going
    >> to be my next exam.
    >>
    >> Can I ask how many questions you got and the amount of
    >> time you were allowed ? Is it the standard 55-60
    >> questions and 2 hours ?
    >>
    >> Also, where all the questions multi-choice or were

    there
    >> any drag-and-drop order sequences ?
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> Yorkie
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>-----Original Message-----
    >>>I just passed 70-320 with score of 905, for anyone

    about
    >>
    >> to take, here
    >>
    >>>are some pointers which may be of help...
    >>>
    >>>*Study Areas*
    >>>(small indicates less than 3 questions on the topic

    >>
    >> area, medium
    >>
    >>>indicates areas you really need to know well to pass

    the
    >>
    >> exam)
    >>
    >>>small - relationships between datasets expressed in xml
    >>>small - debugging processes and serviced components
    >>>small - deploying serviced components
    >>>small - securing serviced component function calls
    >>>small - windows services
    >>>medium - mbr / mbv remoting objects
    >>>medium - soap headers, advanced web services, tcp/http

    >>
    >> channels
    >>
    >>>medium - hosting remoting objects in iis
    >>>medium - declarative attributes for serviced components
    >>>
    >>>*Books*
    >>>I used both MSPress and Amit Kalani. Kalani was

    >>
    >> definately the best, the
    >>
    >>>chapter level tests were extremely helpful, url for

    book
    >>
    >> is here >
    >>
    >>>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789728249/ref

    =s
    >>
    >> r_aps_books_1_1/026-2596496-5435642
    >>
    >>>
    >>>Hope this is of some help, without giving away too

    much.
    >>>
    >>>regards
    >>>
    >>>bb
    >>>.
    >>>

    >.
    >
     
    Yorkie, Apr 29, 2004
    #4
  5. bb

    bb Guest

    well ...

    i previously took the c# web apps one, and failed miserably with 611

    i did quite a lot of c# development about a year ago, then went back to
    a vb /asp project, then tried to do the c# web app exam by just reading
    the books and not doing any practical devleopment work .. and it showed!!

    i run the mcad training programme for this organisation, we are putting
    about 3 rounds of 3 developers through the programme. so its painful
    when i failed ;-)

    im probably going to go for the sqlserver next before doing the retake
    of the webapps. as ive quite a few years sqlserver development under my
    belt.

    as for the high score, yes i surprised myself - ive not done a lot of
    remoting code in actual projects, however i have done a few soap related
    projects.

    my method for passing this exam was
    1) 3 days of dedicated cram immediately before the exam
    2) using those chapter tests and recording my scores and using that as
    indicators on needing to re-read
    3) writing down my own summaries of each chapter (some cut and paste,
    and some note taking)
    4) when doing the exam go through all the questions only answering ones
    you definately know the answer to (i answered 37 on the first pass
    through - took approx an hour)
    5) dont use the mark for review option
    6) on the second pass through pick off all ones which you can best guess
    ( this left about 5 questions)
    7) final pass through wild guesses - after this pass i had 8 minutes left
    8) dont under any circumstances return to the questions and start
    changing answers - just click finish (even if you have time left)


    worked for me this time ( i didnt use this method last time, and felt
    that i changed answers, and didnt have a proper strategy first time through)

    db




    Yorkie wrote:

    > I've got the full MS Self-paced Training Kit, but after
    > buying the SQL Server 2000 book by MS Press for 70-229, I
    > wasn't too impressed. I ended up buying the Que book by
    > Thomas Moore which helped me pass that exam, so I've now
    > gone and bought the Kalani books. Very easy to read and
    > nothing like wading through mud like the MS books!
    >
    > You got a very good score on the exam! Have you got any
    > more lined up, or have you got your MCAD now ?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>57 questions in 120 minutes + an extra 15 minutes for a

    >
    > survey at the
    >
    >>end which i didnt participate in, as i was too excited

    >
    > to get my score.
    >
    >>all questions were multi choice
    >>
    >>only 2 of the 57 were the multiselect multiple choice

    >
    > questions, i.e.
    >
    >>select two of the following.
    >>
    >>out of interest, which book (if any) are you using?
    >>
    >>and i forgot to mention in my previous message, things

    >
    > that never came
    >
    >>up (im not saying dont revise these, but in my

    >
    > experience they were not
    >
    >>covered)..
    >>
    >>xpath
    >>xmlschema/xsd
    >>sqlxml
    >>xml document validation
    >>asynchronous calls to remoting or webservices
    >>xml wire formatting
    >>soapsuds
    >>calling unmanaged code
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>Yorkie wrote:
    >>
    >>>Congratulations! And thanks for the info, as it's

    >
    > going
    >
    >>>to be my next exam.
    >>>
    >>>Can I ask how many questions you got and the amount of
    >>>time you were allowed ? Is it the standard 55-60
    >>>questions and 2 hours ?
    >>>
    >>>Also, where all the questions multi-choice or were

    >
    > there
    >
    >>>any drag-and-drop order sequences ?
    >>>
    >>>Cheers,
    >>>
    >>>Yorkie
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>-----Original Message-----
    >>>>I just passed 70-320 with score of 905, for anyone

    >
    > about
    >
    >>>to take, here
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>are some pointers which may be of help...
    >>>>
    >>>>*Study Areas*
    >>>>(small indicates less than 3 questions on the topic
    >>>
    >>>area, medium
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>indicates areas you really need to know well to pass

    >
    > the
    >
    >>>exam)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>small - relationships between datasets expressed in xml
    >>>>small - debugging processes and serviced components
    >>>>small - deploying serviced components
    >>>>small - securing serviced component function calls
    >>>>small - windows services
    >>>>medium - mbr / mbv remoting objects
    >>>>medium - soap headers, advanced web services, tcp/http
    >>>
    >>>channels
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>medium - hosting remoting objects in iis
    >>>>medium - declarative attributes for serviced components
    >>>>
    >>>>*Books*
    >>>>I used both MSPress and Amit Kalani. Kalani was
    >>>
    >>>definately the best, the
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>chapter level tests were extremely helpful, url for

    >
    > book
    >
    >>>is here >
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789728249/ref

    >
    > =s
    >
    >>>r_aps_books_1_1/026-2596496-5435642
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Hope this is of some help, without giving away too

    >
    > much.
    >
    >>>>regards
    >>>>
    >>>>bb
    >>>>.
    >>>>

    >>
    >>.
    >>
     
    bb, Apr 29, 2004
    #5
  6. bb

    Yorkie Guest

    Thanks for the info! The 70-229 one is pretty
    straightforward if you've got SQL Server experience. I
    was surprised that it didn't cover all the areas I
    thought it would (or could).

    It mainly concentrated on the new SQL Server 2000
    additions - partitioned views and linked servers, indexed
    views, user-defined functions - along with some questions
    on replication, logical design and a lot on performance
    tuning and security/ownership chains.

    The downside with the 70-229 exam is that there are only
    44 questions, which means that (a) you've got less margin
    for error as each question counts for a bigger
    percentage, and (b) the questions are quite long,
    especially when you've got Exhibits and scripts to read
    through.

    The Que book by Thomas Moore was brilliant, though.
    Highly recommended.


    >-----Original Message-----
    >well ...
    >
    >i previously took the c# web apps one, and failed

    miserably with 611
    >
    >i did quite a lot of c# development about a year ago,

    then went back to
    >a vb /asp project, then tried to do the c# web app exam

    by just reading
    >the books and not doing any practical devleopment

    work .. and it showed!!
    >
    >i run the mcad training programme for this organisation,

    we are putting
    >about 3 rounds of 3 developers through the programme. so

    its painful
    >when i failed ;-)
    >
    >im probably going to go for the sqlserver next before

    doing the retake
    >of the webapps. as ive quite a few years sqlserver

    development under my
    >belt.
    >
    >as for the high score, yes i surprised myself - ive not

    done a lot of
    >remoting code in actual projects, however i have done a

    few soap related
    >projects.
    >
    >my method for passing this exam was
    >1) 3 days of dedicated cram immediately before the exam
    >2) using those chapter tests and recording my scores and

    using that as
    >indicators on needing to re-read
    >3) writing down my own summaries of each chapter (some

    cut and paste,
    >and some note taking)
    >4) when doing the exam go through all the questions only

    answering ones
    >you definately know the answer to (i answered 37 on the

    first pass
    >through - took approx an hour)
    >5) dont use the mark for review option
    >6) on the second pass through pick off all ones which

    you can best guess
    >( this left about 5 questions)
    >7) final pass through wild guesses - after this pass i

    had 8 minutes left
    >8) dont under any circumstances return to the questions

    and start
    >changing answers - just click finish (even if you have

    time left)
    >
    >
    >worked for me this time ( i didnt use this method last

    time, and felt
    >that i changed answers, and didnt have a proper strategy

    first time through)
    >
    >db
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >Yorkie wrote:
    >
    >> I've got the full MS Self-paced Training Kit, but

    after
    >> buying the SQL Server 2000 book by MS Press for 70-

    229, I
    >> wasn't too impressed. I ended up buying the Que book

    by
    >> Thomas Moore which helped me pass that exam, so I've

    now
    >> gone and bought the Kalani books. Very easy to read

    and
    >> nothing like wading through mud like the MS books!
    >>
    >> You got a very good score on the exam! Have you got

    any
    >> more lined up, or have you got your MCAD now ?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>-----Original Message-----
    >>>57 questions in 120 minutes + an extra 15 minutes for

    a
    >>
    >> survey at the
    >>
    >>>end which i didnt participate in, as i was too excited

    >>
    >> to get my score.
    >>
    >>>all questions were multi choice
    >>>
    >>>only 2 of the 57 were the multiselect multiple choice

    >>
    >> questions, i.e.
    >>
    >>>select two of the following.
    >>>
    >>>out of interest, which book (if any) are you using?
    >>>
    >>>and i forgot to mention in my previous message, things

    >>
    >> that never came
    >>
    >>>up (im not saying dont revise these, but in my

    >>
    >> experience they were not
    >>
    >>>covered)..
    >>>
    >>>xpath
    >>>xmlschema/xsd
    >>>sqlxml
    >>>xml document validation
    >>>asynchronous calls to remoting or webservices
    >>>xml wire formatting
    >>>soapsuds
    >>>calling unmanaged code
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Yorkie wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Congratulations! And thanks for the info, as it's

    >>
    >> going
    >>
    >>>>to be my next exam.
    >>>>
    >>>>Can I ask how many questions you got and the amount

    of
    >>>>time you were allowed ? Is it the standard 55-60
    >>>>questions and 2 hours ?
    >>>>
    >>>>Also, where all the questions multi-choice or were

    >>
    >> there
    >>
    >>>>any drag-and-drop order sequences ?
    >>>>
    >>>>Cheers,
    >>>>
    >>>>Yorkie
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>-----Original Message-----
    >>>>>I just passed 70-320 with score of 905, for anyone

    >>
    >> about
    >>
    >>>>to take, here
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>are some pointers which may be of help...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>*Study Areas*
    >>>>>(small indicates less than 3 questions on the topic
    >>>>
    >>>>area, medium
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>indicates areas you really need to know well to pass

    >>
    >> the
    >>
    >>>>exam)
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>small - relationships between datasets expressed in

    xml
    >>>>>small - debugging processes and serviced components
    >>>>>small - deploying serviced components
    >>>>>small - securing serviced component function calls
    >>>>>small - windows services
    >>>>>medium - mbr / mbv remoting objects
    >>>>>medium - soap headers, advanced web services,

    tcp/http
    >>>>
    >>>>channels
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>medium - hosting remoting objects in iis
    >>>>>medium - declarative attributes for serviced

    components
    >>>>>
    >>>>>*Books*
    >>>>>I used both MSPress and Amit Kalani. Kalani was
    >>>>
    >>>>definately the best, the
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>chapter level tests were extremely helpful, url for

    >>
    >> book
    >>
    >>>>is here >
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789728249/r

    ef
    >>
    >> =s
    >>
    >>>>r_aps_books_1_1/026-2596496-5435642
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Hope this is of some help, without giving away too

    >>
    >> much.
    >>
    >>>>>regards
    >>>>>
    >>>>>bb
    >>>>>.
    >>>>>
    >>>
    >>>.
    >>>

    >.
    >
     
    Yorkie, Apr 29, 2004
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