Job Search which is better MCSA/MCSE 2k OR MCSA/MCSE 2003

Discussion in 'MCSA' started by Sam, May 3, 2005.

  1. Sam

    Sam Guest

    Hi Everyone,


    I desperately need a new job.

    I am one exam away from my MCSA on win 2000. I was looking to see how
    long would it take me to complete MCSA and MCSE and it seem like it
    will take several more months. and again by the time i am done i have
    to upgrade to 2003 right away!!


    Here is my real question, should i start upgrading right after MCSA
    2000 to MCSE 2003 OR should i finish MCSE 2000 and than upgrade?
    Because it seem like everyone is using 2003 these days!! Which one
    would be better for Job search. I desperately need a new job.


    Thank you for your time.
    Sam, May 3, 2005
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  2. Sam

    EvilGeekGirl Guest

    Some advice:


    > I desperately need a new job.


    Hang in there.....

    > I am one exam away from my MCSA on win 2000. I was looking to see how
    > long would it take me to complete MCSA and MCSE and it seem like it
    > will take several more months. and again by the time i am done i have
    > to upgrade to 2003 right away!!


    First off, how long did it take you to get your MCSA in the first place?

    > Here is my real question, should i start upgrading right after MCSA
    > 2000 to MCSE 2003 OR should i finish MCSE 2000 and than upgrade?
    > Because it seem like everyone is using 2003 these days!! Which one
    > would be better for Job search. I desperately need a new job.


    Another thing too, what kind of job do you have...

    Some of the questions you want to ask yourself:
    -Do I know this material
    -If I get a new job, can I do all that it required
    -Do I have enough exp.?

    Just going for your MCSE 2003, will get you noticed, but the factor is "do
    you know your $hit?"

    If you answered yes to everything, here is my advice, do some hard core
    studying, labs, or whatever...and do this stuff back to back and at least get
    your MCSE 2000. Since you have 3 or 4 more to go, you can get the rest by the
    end of the summer. The 2003 track is 2 tests for the upgrade, and it's a bit
    harder to pass, but MCSE 2000 will at least prepare you.

    Job wise, you could get a help desk job or something like that, you aren't
    gonna get a $60K+ job off the bat, unless you go work for the gov't.

    Good Luck
    EvilGeekGirl, May 3, 2005
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  3. Sam

    Sam Guest

    I am not done with MCSA, i am still one exam away. It took me 4 months
    to do finish 3 exams.

    I know the material well. and i am sure i can do the job. I have 3+
    years of tech support experiance.

    So you think even if i only have MCSE 2000, i can still apply for jobs
    and expect some interviews!!! OR not? I am not hoping for 60K but i am
    also not going to take help desk job.

    Thank you for your time.

    Sam


    EvilGeekGirl wrote:
    > Some advice:
    >
    >
    > > I desperately need a new job.

    >
    > Hang in there.....
    >
    > > I am one exam away from my MCSA on win 2000. I was looking to see

    how
    > > long would it take me to complete MCSA and MCSE and it seem like it
    > > will take several more months. and again by the time i am done i

    have
    > > to upgrade to 2003 right away!!

    >
    > First off, how long did it take you to get your MCSA in the first

    place?
    >
    > > Here is my real question, should i start upgrading right after MCSA
    > > 2000 to MCSE 2003 OR should i finish MCSE 2000 and than upgrade?
    > > Because it seem like everyone is using 2003 these days!! Which one
    > > would be better for Job search. I desperately need a new job.

    >
    > Another thing too, what kind of job do you have...
    >
    > Some of the questions you want to ask yourself:
    > -Do I know this material
    > -If I get a new job, can I do all that it required
    > -Do I have enough exp.?
    >
    > Just going for your MCSE 2003, will get you noticed, but the factor

    is "do
    > you know your $hit?"
    >
    > If you answered yes to everything, here is my advice, do some hard

    core
    > studying, labs, or whatever...and do this stuff back to back and at

    least get
    > your MCSE 2000. Since you have 3 or 4 more to go, you can get the

    rest by the
    > end of the summer. The 2003 track is 2 tests for the upgrade, and

    it's a bit
    > harder to pass, but MCSE 2000 will at least prepare you.
    >
    > Job wise, you could get a help desk job or something like that, you

    aren't
    > gonna get a $60K+ job off the bat, unless you go work for the gov't.
    >
    > Good Luck
    Sam, May 3, 2005
    #3
  4. Sam

    EvilGeekGirl Guest

    MCSE will get your foot in the door, but again if you have 3 years of solid
    exp., and you know your stuff it shouldnt be a prob.

    Salary wise, it depends on where you live, and the jobs that are available.
    If you live out in Kansas, or live in NYC... it really depends. I live in the
    mid-atlantic area, and there are more govt jobs here.

    Bust your @$$ on getting those certs out of the way, make a goal for
    yourself to pass each test, don't give up on it. You'll sleep better at night
    once you've passed everything, and you have a great job to show for it.


    "Sam" wrote:

    > I am not done with MCSA, i am still one exam away. It took me 4 months
    > to do finish 3 exams.
    >
    > I know the material well. and i am sure i can do the job. I have 3+
    > years of tech support experiance.
    >
    > So you think even if i only have MCSE 2000, i can still apply for jobs
    > and expect some interviews!!! OR not? I am not hoping for 60K but i am
    > also not going to take help desk job.
    >
    > Thank you for your time.
    >
    > Sam
    >
    >
    > EvilGeekGirl wrote:
    > > Some advice:
    > >
    > >
    > > > I desperately need a new job.

    > >
    > > Hang in there.....
    > >
    > > > I am one exam away from my MCSA on win 2000. I was looking to see

    > how
    > > > long would it take me to complete MCSA and MCSE and it seem like it
    > > > will take several more months. and again by the time i am done i

    > have
    > > > to upgrade to 2003 right away!!

    > >
    > > First off, how long did it take you to get your MCSA in the first

    > place?
    > >
    > > > Here is my real question, should i start upgrading right after MCSA
    > > > 2000 to MCSE 2003 OR should i finish MCSE 2000 and than upgrade?
    > > > Because it seem like everyone is using 2003 these days!! Which one
    > > > would be better for Job search. I desperately need a new job.

    > >
    > > Another thing too, what kind of job do you have...
    > >
    > > Some of the questions you want to ask yourself:
    > > -Do I know this material
    > > -If I get a new job, can I do all that it required
    > > -Do I have enough exp.?
    > >
    > > Just going for your MCSE 2003, will get you noticed, but the factor

    > is "do
    > > you know your $hit?"
    > >
    > > If you answered yes to everything, here is my advice, do some hard

    > core
    > > studying, labs, or whatever...and do this stuff back to back and at

    > least get
    > > your MCSE 2000. Since you have 3 or 4 more to go, you can get the

    > rest by the
    > > end of the summer. The 2003 track is 2 tests for the upgrade, and

    > it's a bit
    > > harder to pass, but MCSE 2000 will at least prepare you.
    > >
    > > Job wise, you could get a help desk job or something like that, you

    > aren't
    > > gonna get a $60K+ job off the bat, unless you go work for the gov't.
    > >
    > > Good Luck

    >
    >
    EvilGeekGirl, May 3, 2005
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  5. Sam

    Sam Guest

    Thanks for great information. Acutally that's excately what i have
    decided. I am not going to give up. BUT the question here was am i
    wasting my time going for MCSE 2000, while everyone is using Windows
    server 2003 (i can alwayse upgrade!!). I am in Mid West BUT i am
    willing to move.

    Thanks again for help.

    Any other comments from anyone are welcome.

    Sam
    Sam, May 3, 2005
    #5
  6. Sam

    EvilGeekGirl Guest

    Nope not at all, and it's good cause you can always go to MCDBA, MCSE 03, and
    others.

    "Sam" wrote:

    > Thanks for great information. Acutally that's excately what i have
    > decided. I am not going to give up. BUT the question here was am i
    > wasting my time going for MCSE 2000, while everyone is using Windows
    > server 2003 (i can alwayse upgrade!!). I am in Mid West BUT i am
    > willing to move.
    >
    > Thanks again for help.
    >
    > Any other comments from anyone are welcome.
    >
    > Sam
    >
    >
    EvilGeekGirl, May 3, 2005
    #6
  7. 1. Don't cross post and double post the same thread a bunch of times in
    different groups.

    Sam wrote:
    > I am not done with MCSA, i am still one exam away. It took me 4

    months
    > to do finish 3 exams.


    2. Learn English. With your poor communication skills, I certainly
    wouldn't hire you.

    > I know the material well. and i am sure i can do the job. I have 3+
    > years of tech support experiance.


    3. ExperiENCE is good, but what is your experience specifically?

    > So you think even if i only have MCSE 2000, i can still apply for

    jobs
    > and expect some interviews!!! OR not? I am not hoping for 60K but i

    am
    > also not going to take help desk job.


    4. Don't think like that. Some help jobs you should gladly take. A
    large company that you would love to work at offers you a help desk
    job, you take. Get your foot in the door. CNN / Turner Broadcasting is
    near me, and that includes CNN, TNT, TBS, Cartoon Network, Turner
    Classic Movies. I'd easily take a slightly lower paying job there just
    to get in that environment. According to my friends who work there,
    it's very easy to transfer to other departments if after six months
    time I hated my help desk job. Of course you should take SOME help desk
    jobs if the opportunity is a good one.
    blastingfonda, May 3, 2005
    #7
  8. Sam

    Brainloc Guest

    Sam take notice to this:

    Most companies that you could get a decent job with are
    still using 2000 for the time being. The economy has been
    down so they could not afford to budget the money to
    upgrade so they had to make due with what they had.

    Help Desk jobs are great openers for newly certed people.
    Don't go with the attitude that I did all of this and
    spent all this money and now I want instant returns. It
    takes years sometimes to get those returns, do it because
    you want to do it not because you are looking for
    immediate returns on your "investment"

    Nobody is perfect we all make mistakes (I personally could
    go on and on with lists and lists of mistakes in life) but
    do yourself a favor (meaning this in the nicest possible
    way) work on your written and verbal communication skills,
    talk and write like a professional. If it talks like a
    pro, writes like a pro, there is a good chance that it's a
    pro! I hope you take that as constructive criticism, even
    posting on the boards and newsgroups and blogs it would
    get you better results back and perhaps maybe that person
    offering that 60k a year job notices how great your
    communication skills are.

    Good Luck to you!

    Best Wishes,

    J
    >-----Original Message-----
    >Nope not at all, and it's good cause you can always go to

    MCDBA, MCSE 03, and
    >others.
    >
    >"Sam" wrote:
    >
    >> Thanks for great information. Acutally that's excately

    what i have
    >> decided. I am not going to give up. BUT the question

    here was am i
    >> wasting my time going for MCSE 2000, while everyone is

    using Windows
    >> server 2003 (i can alwayse upgrade!!). I am in Mid West

    BUT i am
    >> willing to move.
    >>
    >> Thanks again for help.
    >>
    >> Any other comments from anyone are welcome.
    >>
    >> Sam
    >>
    >>

    >.
    >
    Brainloc, May 7, 2005
    #8
  9. Sam

    Sam Guest

    Hi Brainloc,

    Thank you for help. I really appreciate your time.

    Sam

    Brainloc wrote:
    > Sam take notice to this:
    >
    > Most companies that you could get a decent job with are
    > still using 2000 for the time being. The economy has been
    > down so they could not afford to budget the money to
    > upgrade so they had to make due with what they had.
    >
    > Help Desk jobs are great openers for newly certed people.
    > Don't go with the attitude that I did all of this and
    > spent all this money and now I want instant returns. It
    > takes years sometimes to get those returns, do it because
    > you want to do it not because you are looking for
    > immediate returns on your "investment"
    >
    > Nobody is perfect we all make mistakes (I personally could
    > go on and on with lists and lists of mistakes in life) but
    > do yourself a favor (meaning this in the nicest possible
    > way) work on your written and verbal communication skills,
    > talk and write like a professional. If it talks like a
    > pro, writes like a pro, there is a good chance that it's a
    > pro! I hope you take that as constructive criticism, even
    > posting on the boards and newsgroups and blogs it would
    > get you better results back and perhaps maybe that person
    > offering that 60k a year job notices how great your
    > communication skills are.
    >
    > Good Luck to you!
    >
    > Best Wishes,
    >
    > J
    > >-----Original Message-----
    > >Nope not at all, and it's good cause you can always go to

    > MCDBA, MCSE 03, and
    > >others.
    > >
    > >"Sam" wrote:
    > >
    > >> Thanks for great information. Acutally that's excately

    > what i have
    > >> decided. I am not going to give up. BUT the question

    > here was am i
    > >> wasting my time going for MCSE 2000, while everyone is

    > using Windows
    > >> server 2003 (i can alwayse upgrade!!). I am in Mid West

    > BUT i am
    > >> willing to move.
    > >>
    > >> Thanks again for help.
    > >>
    > >> Any other comments from anyone are welcome.
    > >>
    > >> Sam
    > >>
    > >>

    > >.
    > >
    Sam, May 9, 2005
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  10. Sam

    JenH Guest

    If I were you, I would get the MCSA 2000, upgrade that to MCSA 2003 then
    finish the 2003 MCSE.

    The 2003 certs are already 3+ years old - go to the new technology.

    Jen

    "Sam" wrote:

    > Hi Everyone,
    >
    >
    > I desperately need a new job.
    >
    > I am one exam away from my MCSA on win 2000. I was looking to see how
    > long would it take me to complete MCSA and MCSE and it seem like it
    > will take several more months. and again by the time i am done i have
    > to upgrade to 2003 right away!!
    >
    >
    > Here is my real question, should i start upgrading right after MCSA
    > 2000 to MCSE 2003 OR should i finish MCSE 2000 and than upgrade?
    > Because it seem like everyone is using 2003 these days!! Which one
    > would be better for Job search. I desperately need a new job.
    >
    >
    > Thank you for your time.
    >
    >
    JenH, May 17, 2005
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