Is the Four-Thirds project the answer for DSLR's?

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Paul D. Sullivan, Aug 19, 2003.

  1. http://www.four-thirds.org/en/index_01.htm

    This Four Thirds project has been around for a while - I'm
    thinking it is a pretty good first effort at ensuring lenses
    match bodies and therefore help ensure accuracy, quality, etc.

    Since it has been out for a while and seems to be gaining
    traction slowly, I was wondering what you all think of the
    effort?

    Could this project make Digital SLR camera systems worth
    investing in finally?
     
    Paul D. Sullivan, Aug 19, 2003
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  2. In article <aCj0b.12146$>,
    "Paul D. Sullivan" <> wrote:

    > http://www.four-thirds.org/en/index_01.htm
    >
    > This Four Thirds project has been around for a while - I'm
    > thinking it is a pretty good first effort at ensuring lenses
    > match bodies and therefore help ensure accuracy, quality, etc.
    >
    > Since it has been out for a while and seems to be gaining
    > traction slowly, I was wondering what you all think of the
    > effort?
    >
    > Could this project make Digital SLR camera systems worth
    > investing in finally?


    No. Regardless of the 4/3" system's merits, DSLRs do not make good
    investments. Useful tools, though.

    --
    David Eppstein http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/
    Univ. of California, Irvine, School of Information & Computer Science
     
    David Eppstein, Aug 19, 2003
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  3. Paul D. Sullivan

    Tony Spadaro Guest

    It isn't out at all. They have spent two years hyping it and are promising
    to bring forth one whole body and four whole lenses this fall. Several other
    companies have said they are going to sign on but have announced bupkis --
    So unless you have posted this from about two years in the future -- hold
    your praise, dude. Wait for the horse to be born before you award him the
    triple crowny.

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    "Paul D. Sullivan" <> wrote in message
    news:aCj0b.12146$...
    > http://www.four-thirds.org/en/index_01.htm
    >
    > This Four Thirds project has been around for a while - I'm
    > thinking it is a pretty good first effort at ensuring lenses
    > match bodies and therefore help ensure accuracy, quality, etc.
    >
    > Since it has been out for a while and seems to be gaining
    > traction slowly, I was wondering what you all think of the
    > effort?
    >
    > Could this project make Digital SLR camera systems worth
    > investing in finally?
    >
    >
     
    Tony Spadaro, Aug 19, 2003
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  4. Why are DSLR's not worth investing in?


    > In article <aCj0b.12146$>,
    > "Paul D. Sullivan" <> wrote:
    >
    >> http://www.four-thirds.org/en/index_01.htm
    >>
    >> This Four Thirds project has been around for a while - I'm
    >> thinking it is a pretty good first effort at ensuring lenses
    >> match bodies and therefore help ensure accuracy, quality, etc.
    >>
    >> Since it has been out for a while and seems to be gaining
    >> traction slowly, I was wondering what you all think of the
    >> effort?
    >>
    >> Could this project make Digital SLR camera systems worth
    >> investing in finally?

    >
    > No. Regardless of the 4/3" system's merits, DSLRs do not make
    > good investments. Useful tools, though.
     
    Paul D. Sullivan, Aug 19, 2003
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    Charlie Self Guest

    Paull Sullivan asks:

    >Why are DSLR's not worth investing in?


    Give some thought to the concept of investments being things that need to
    increase in value to be worth having.

    Charlie Self

    "A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."
    Dan Quayle
     
    Charlie Self, Aug 19, 2003
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  6. I consider the memories that I get from the digital cameras I
    take to be well worth the investment for me. :)

    I take pics of family, friends, places, things and they bring
    back great memories when I view them.

    For example:

    http://mysite.verizon.net/res73act/

    > Paull Sullivan asks:
    >
    >> Why are DSLR's not worth investing in?

    >
    > Give some thought to the concept of investments being things
    > that need to increase in value to be worth having.
    >
    > Charlie Self
    >
    > "A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to
    > the polls." Dan Quayle
     
    Paul D. Sullivan, Aug 19, 2003
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  7. Paul D. Sullivan

    Mark Roberts Guest

    "Tony Spadaro" <> wrote:

    > It isn't out at all. They have spent two years hyping it and are promising
    >to bring forth one whole body and four whole lenses this fall. Several other
    >companies have said they are going to sign on but have announced bupkis --
    >So unless you have posted this from about two years in the future -- hold
    >your praise, dude. Wait for the horse to be born before you award him the
    >triple crowny.


    The Olympus Four-Thirds camera is looking like the "Kodak Disc" of
    digital. (OK, maybe I'm exaggerating and it's really the "APS" of
    digital.)

    --
    Mark Roberts
    Photography and writing
    www.robertstech.com
     
    Mark Roberts, Aug 19, 2003
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  8. Paul D. Sullivan

    Graham Guest

    "Paul D. Sullivan" wrote:
    > Why are DSLR's not worth investing in?


    Depreciating assets are not investments.

    They *might* be vital tools of trade, but they're not investments.
     
    Graham, Aug 19, 2003
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  9. Paul D. Sullivan

    Paul H. Guest

    "Paul D. Sullivan" <> wrote in message
    news:3Yk0b.12238$...
    > I consider the memories that I get from the digital cameras I
    > take to be well worth the investment for me. :)



    Then maybe you should invest in "Focus Factor", that memory enhancement
    supplement which is advertised on the radio, ad nauseum. :)
     
    Paul H., Aug 19, 2003
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  10. Paul D. Sullivan

    Paul H. Guest

    "Graham" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > "Paul D. Sullivan" wrote:
    > > Why are DSLR's not worth investing in?

    >
    > Depreciating assets are not investments.


    Then we should never invest in ourselves, because as economist J.M. Keynes
    once remarked, "In the long run, we're dead." You can't get much more
    depreciated than six feet under. :)

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    forever. After a brief but respectful silence, a quavering voice asks,
    "What did he say?"

    The ashen-faced nephew turns to the assembled group and, imitating his lost
    uncle, says, "He said, 'You... can...never... have..<cough>...
    enough...megapixels.' And I think all of us should be grateful he never
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    Paul H., Aug 19, 2003
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  11. "Paul D. Sullivan" <> writes:

    > http://www.four-thirds.org/en/index_01.htm
    >
    > This Four Thirds project has been around for a while - I'm
    > thinking it is a pretty good first effort at ensuring lenses
    > match bodies and therefore help ensure accuracy, quality, etc.
    >
    > Since it has been out for a while and seems to be gaining
    > traction slowly, I was wondering what you all think of the
    > effort?


    I had some hopes at first. But it looks to me as if it's not
    competitive with the partial-frame DSLRs from the mainline
    manufacturers at this point. I think it's dead.

    > Could this project make Digital SLR camera systems worth
    > investing in finally?


    I invested in DSLR camera systems 8 months ago, and am extremely glad
    I did.
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    David Dyer-Bennet, Aug 19, 2003
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  12. Paul D. Sullivan

    Tony Spadaro Guest

    I personally don't see much future for it, but I'm not the general public.
    It strikes me that the body is going to have to be smaller, and cheaper, and
    the lenses are going to have to be much cheaper to compete - at least from
    what I've seen of the announced pricing on various sites.

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    "Mark Roberts" <> wrote in message
    news:Lhq0b.9305$...
    > "Tony Spadaro" <> wrote:
    >
    > > It isn't out at all. They have spent two years hyping it and are

    promising
    > >to bring forth one whole body and four whole lenses this fall. Several

    other
    > >companies have said they are going to sign on but have announced

    bupkis --
    > >So unless you have posted this from about two years in the future -- hold
    > >your praise, dude. Wait for the horse to be born before you award him the
    > >triple crowny.

    >
    > The Olympus Four-Thirds camera is looking like the "Kodak Disc" of
    > digital. (OK, maybe I'm exaggerating and it's really the "APS" of
    > digital.)
    >
    > --
    > Mark Roberts
    > Photography and writing
    > www.robertstech.com
     
    Tony Spadaro, Aug 19, 2003
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    Alan F Cross Guest

    Looks to me that the new Canon 300D, amongst other things, is designed
    to be a 'Four Thirds' killer. Canon has seriously geared up dSLR
    production, and it looks like a large slice of consumer hunger will be
    sated before the first Four Thirds camera even reaches the shelves. It's
    not as if there are compatible lenses sitting gadget bags waiting
    desperately for a Four Thirds body, as it's a new mount.



    In message <nTt0b.9022$>, Tony
    Spadaro <> writes
    > I personally don't see much future for it, but I'm not the general public.
    >It strikes me that the body is going to have to be smaller, and cheaper, and
    >the lenses are going to have to be much cheaper to compete - at least from
    >what I've seen of the announced pricing on various sites.
    >
    >--
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    >home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto
    >The Improved Links Pages are at
    >http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html
    >New email - Contact on the Menyou page.
    >"Mark Roberts" <> wrote in message
    >news:Lhq0b.9305$...
    >> "Tony Spadaro" <> wrote:
    >>
    >> > It isn't out at all. They have spent two years hyping it and are

    >promising
    >> >to bring forth one whole body and four whole lenses this fall. Several

    >other
    >> >companies have said they are going to sign on but have announced

    >bupkis --
    >> >So unless you have posted this from about two years in the future -- hold
    >> >your praise, dude. Wait for the horse to be born before you award him the
    >> >triple crowny.

    >>
    >> The Olympus Four-Thirds camera is looking like the "Kodak Disc" of
    >> digital. (OK, maybe I'm exaggerating and it's really the "APS" of
    >> digital.)
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mark Roberts
    >> Photography and writing
    >> www.robertstech.com

    >
    >


    --
    Alan F Cross
     
    Alan F Cross, Aug 20, 2003
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    Mike Engles Guest

    Graham wrote:
    >
    > "Paul D. Sullivan" wrote:
    > > Why are DSLR's not worth investing in?

    >
    > Depreciating assets are not investments.
    >
    > They *might* be vital tools of trade, but they're not investments.



    Hello

    As far as I am concerned, when DSLRs can have upgradeable sensors to
    keep up with tecnology I will be interested. I use Nikon and Olympus
    SLRs and have had them for over 20 years. I also use a 10MP scanner, a
    Nikon LS40.

    I have to say the sample images I have seen from some digital cameras
    are really impressive.

    Mike Engles
     
    Mike Engles, Aug 21, 2003
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