Is Sigma's SD10 at ISO 1600 better than Canon's 1Ds at ISO 100?

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Georgette Preddy, Jul 11, 2004.

  1. Georgette Preddy, Jul 11, 2004
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    Graeme, Jul 11, 2004
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    ferret Guest

    You really are an annoying little tosser
    ferret, Jul 11, 2004
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  4. In article <>, Georgette
    Preddy <> wrote:

    > It certainly is too close...
    >
    > http://www.pbase.com/image/31155134/original
    >
    > If Sigma offered the same ISO 1250 option, the answer would definitely
    > be "yes!" at that setting.


    Get a clue, George.
    Randall Ainsworth, Jul 11, 2004
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  5. Randall Ainsworth <> wrote in message news:<110720040922373510%>...
    > In article <>, Georgette
    > Preddy <> wrote:
    >
    > > It certainly is too close...
    > >
    > > http://www.pbase.com/image/31155134/original
    > >
    > > If Sigma offered the same ISO 1250 option, the answer would definitely
    > > be "yes!" at that setting.

    >
    > Get a clue, George.


    Get a chart that doesn't clearly show the 1Ds is worse at ISO 100 than
    the SD10 is at ISO 1600.
    Georgette Preddy, Jul 12, 2004
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  6. "Graeme" <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > "Georgette Preddy" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > It certainly is too close...
    > >
    > > http://www.pbase.com/image/31155134/original
    > >
    > > If Sigma offered the same ISO 1250 option, the answer would definitely
    > > be "yes!" at that setting.

    >
    > George/tte, why don't you scroll down in this page, past the grey patch ISO
    > sensitivity test and onto, well, the colors
    > http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sigmasd10/page13.asp ?!


    That is a noisy Canon DSLR, but it's not the 1Ds.
    Georgette Preddy, Jul 12, 2004
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    Graeme Guest

    > That is a noisy Canon DSLR, but it's not the 1Ds.

    That wasn't my point. Did you scroll down and see the Sigma's colors?
    Graeme, Jul 12, 2004
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  8. "Graeme" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > > That is a noisy Canon DSLR, but it's not the 1Ds.

    >
    > That wasn't my point. Did you scroll down and see the Sigma's colors?


    Since Steve Giovenella (hiding behind his GP moniker) is to stupid to
    understand your question, here it is:
    <http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/SigmaSD10/Samples/ISO/lumi_graph.gif> .

    Bart
    Bart van der Wolf, Jul 12, 2004
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  9. "Georgette Preddy" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    SNIP
    > Get a chart that doesn't clearly show the 1Ds is worse at
    > ISO 100 than the SD10 is at ISO 1600.


    Problems with your double-negatives?
    Indeed, there are only charts that show that the 1Ds is better at ISO 100,
    and all the way up to 1250 it is still better than the SD-10.

    <http://img.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS1Ds/Samples/ISO/luminance-graph.gif
    >

    1Ds at ISO 100 has 1.2 luminance standard deviation, and the SD-10 has:
    <http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/SigmaSD10/Samples/ISO/lumi_graph.gif>
    4.2 luminance standard deviation.

    What's more the SD-10 also misrepresents even more red colors as the ISO is
    increased:
    <http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/SigmaSD10/Samples/ISO/Color/sd10_iso1600.jp
    g> .
    Bart van der Wolf, Jul 12, 2004
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  10. Georgette Preddy

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    In message <40f2bbe5$0$563$4all.nl>,
    "Bart van der Wolf" <> wrote:

    >Since Steve Giovenella


    It's "Giovanella"; two 'a's and one 'e'.
    --

    <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<>
    John P Sheehy <>
    ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>><
    , Jul 14, 2004
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  11. <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In message <40f2bbe5$0$563$4all.nl>,
    > "Bart van der Wolf" <> wrote:
    >
    > >Since Steve Giovenella

    >
    > It's "Giovanella"; two 'a's and one 'e'.


    Try http://centralops.net/co/DomainDossier.aspx , do a "domain whois
    record" search on <http://www.missionphoto.biz> (it is linked to through
    http://www.sigmaontour.tk/ ).

    Steve Giovenella = "Preddy"

    Bart
    Bart van der Wolf, Jul 14, 2004
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  12. Georgette Preddy

    Guest

    In message <40f504bc$0$36169$4all.nl>,
    "Bart van der Wolf" <> wrote:

    >
    ><> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> In message <40f2bbe5$0$563$4all.nl>,
    >> "Bart van der Wolf" <> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Since Steve Giovenella

    >>
    >> It's "Giovanella"; two 'a's and one 'e'.

    >
    >Try http://centralops.net/co/DomainDossier.aspx , do a "domain whois
    >record" search on <http://www.missionphoto.biz> (it is linked to through
    >http://www.sigmaontour.tk/ ).
    >
    >Steve Giovenella = "Preddy"


    That's funny, I could swear he spelled it with two 'a's in
    comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
    --

    <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<>
    John P Sheehy <>
    ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>><
    , Jul 15, 2004
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  13. <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In message <40f504bc$0$36169$4all.nl>,
    > "Bart van der Wolf" <> wrote:

    SNIP
    > >Try http://centralops.net/co/DomainDossier.aspx , do a "domain whois
    > >record" search on <http://www.missionphoto.biz> (it is linked to through
    > >http://www.sigmaontour.tk/ ).
    > >
    > >Steve Giovenella = "Preddy"

    >
    > That's funny, I could swear he spelled it with two 'a's in
    > comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.


    Ah, but he's known to spread only lies.

    Bart
    Bart van der Wolf, Jul 15, 2004
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  14. (Georgette Preddy) wrote in message news:<>...
    > "Graeme" <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > > "Georgette Preddy" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > It certainly is too close...
    > > >
    > > > http://www.pbase.com/image/31155134/original
    > > >
    > > > If Sigma offered the same ISO 1250 option, the answer would definitely
    > > > be "yes!" at that setting.

    > >
    > > George/tte, why don't you scroll down in this page, past the grey patch ISO
    > > sensitivity test and onto, well, the colors
    > > http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sigmasd10/page13.asp ?!

    >
    > That is a noisy Canon DSLR, but it's not the 1Ds.


    The new link she posted above is the tremendously noisy prosumer Canon
    10D compared to the pro SD10. The 10D is not in the same class as a
    professional camera (but nothing else in the 35mm format is). The
    1Ds, on the other hand is a total mess, even Canon users laugh at the
    extreme noise levels and 90s vintage high ISO performance.

    Here is the prosumer Canon 1Ds vs the professional Sigma/Foveon/NSC
    SD10 (pro in this sense = Leaf and Foveon only, with Foveon having the
    clear edge on noise), same link I posted to start this thread...

    http://www.pbase.com/image/31155134/original
    Georgette Preddy, Jul 15, 2004
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  15. In article <>, Georgette
    Preddy <> wrote:

    > Here is the prosumer Canon 1Ds vs the professional Sigma/Foveon/NSC
    > SD10 (pro in this sense = Leaf and Foveon only, with Foveon having the
    > clear edge on noise), same link I posted to start this thread...


    Yes, the Foveon has the clear edge on noise...you get lots of it *and*
    crappy colors.
    Randall Ainsworth, Jul 15, 2004
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