Is Locksmithing a dead trade for losers?

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by dirtbag, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. dirtbag

    dirtbag Guest

    I'm a 55 year old mechanical engineer interested in a retirement career to
    earn a couple of extra bucks.
    I have always been interested in locksmithing and in fact over the years
    have learned how lockas work, how to to pick, code and decode cylinders
    and even pick GM sidebar locks, albeit with variable results. I'm no Hank
    Spicer!!

    However, I look at locksmithing in the current times as a dead trade
    inhabited with lower class people who have little skills, love for the
    trade but simple people who want to make a buck.

    I went to a trade show last year (MLNJ) and it was filled with smelly,
    slimy, moronic people who claimed to be smiths'.

    Seriously the stench in the convention center was so bad I had to walk
    outside every 10 minutes or so to get fresh air.

    I also heard from several of the exhibitors there that many items had been
    stolen by attendees.

    Pretty sad.

    So is this what the trade has become?

    Toothless, unclean morons in search of a bar of soap?
    Pretty sad.
    dirtbag, Jul 19, 2006
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    Martik Guest

    "dirtbag" <> wrote in message
    news:bghvg.6486$...
    > I'm a 55 year old mechanical engineer interested in a retirement career to
    > earn a couple of extra bucks.
    > I have always been interested in locksmithing and in fact over the years
    > have learned how lockas work, how to to pick, code and decode cylinders
    > and even pick GM sidebar locks, albeit with variable results. I'm no Hank
    > Spicer!!
    >
    > However, I look at locksmithing in the current times as a dead trade
    > inhabited with lower class people who have little skills, love for the
    > trade but simple people who want to make a buck.
    >
    > I went to a trade show last year (MLNJ) and it was filled with smelly,
    > slimy, moronic people who claimed to be smiths'.
    >
    > Seriously the stench in the convention center was so bad I had to walk
    > outside every 10 minutes or so to get fresh air.
    >
    > I also heard from several of the exhibitors there that many items had been
    > stolen by attendees.
    >
    > Pretty sad.
    >
    > So is this what the trade has become?
    >
    > Toothless, unclean morons in search of a bar of soap?
    > Pretty sad.
    >

    Disagree, last locksmith I hired was cleancut and had all his teeth.
    Considering he charged $90 for 25mins work he could afford it.
    Martik, Jul 19, 2006
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    "dirtbag" <> wrote in message
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    I'm a 55 year old mechanical engineer interested in a retirement
    career to
    earn a couple of extra bucks.
    I have always been interested in locksmithing and in fact over the
    years
    have learned how lockas work, how to to pick, code and decode
    cylinders
    and even pick GM sidebar locks, albeit with variable results. I'm no
    Hank
    Spicer!!

    However, I look at locksmithing in the current times as a dead trade
    inhabited with lower class people who have little skills, love for the
    trade but simple people who want to make a buck.

    I went to a trade show last year (MLNJ) and it was filled with smelly,
    slimy, moronic people who claimed to be smiths'.

    Seriously the stench in the convention center was so bad I had to walk
    outside every 10 minutes or so to get fresh air.

    I also heard from several of the exhibitors there that many items had
    been
    stolen by attendees.

    Pretty sad.

    So is this what the trade has become?

    Toothless, unclean morons in search of a bar of soap?
    Pretty sad.
    Stormin Mormon, Jul 19, 2006
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    Bret Ludwig Guest

    wrote:
    > dirtbag <> wrote:
    >
    > |>So is this what the trade has become?
    > |>
    > |>Toothless, unclean morons in search of a bar of soap?
    > |>Pretty sad.
    >
    > You must of seen this by now (gone to geeks)
    > http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000507073793/


    The machine can do it without human attention, though.
    Bret Ludwig, Jul 19, 2006
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  6. dirtbag

    Guest

    , Jul 19, 2006
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  7. On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:00:25 -0400, dirtbag <>
    wrote:

    >I'm a 55 year old mechanical engineer interested in a retirement career to
    >earn a couple of extra bucks.
    >I have always been interested in locksmithing and in fact over the years
    >have learned how lockas work, how to to pick, code and decode cylinders
    >and even pick GM sidebar locks, albeit with variable results. I'm no Hank
    >Spicer!!
    >
    >However, I look at locksmithing in the current times as a dead trade
    >inhabited with lower class people who have little skills, love for the
    >trade but simple people who want to make a buck.
    >
    >I went to a trade show last year (MLNJ) and it was filled with smelly,
    >slimy, moronic people who claimed to be smiths'.
    >
    >Seriously the stench in the convention center was so bad I had to walk
    >outside every 10 minutes or so to get fresh air.
    >
    >I also heard from several of the exhibitors there that many items had been
    >stolen by attendees.
    >
    >Pretty sad.
    >
    >So is this what the trade has become?
    >
    >Toothless, unclean morons in search of a bar of soap?
    >Pretty sad.
    >



    Now I understand this is a broad generization, but I have to make the
    same, you can make your claims against almost any trade industry. I
    worked as a Chimney Sweep in Colorado Springs, for a very highly well
    known good company. The average chimney sweep employee was a person
    who was only a temp, very dissovled/dirty, or didn't care about the
    work they did. Because of this, the company that worked for took the
    time to train their employees, only hire good employees, and only
    behave professionally. The company is has been recoginized by the BBB
    many times with awards, and the local chamber of commerce.

    The moral of this story, 99% of the sweeps in Colorado Springs might
    be like your 'lock smiths' but because this chimney sweep set itself
    apart from the rest, by becoming the best. This has rewarded them
    with above average repeate customers, and customers willing to wait a
    long time for their expertise. And you can too, in lock smithing if
    you were interested.

    BTW, as for smelly, go to a computer show. My goodness, those
    overweight geeks don't know what a shower is. ;) But still computers
    workers are here to stay, for awhile now. :p

    later,

    tom @ www.NoCostAds.com
    Tom The Great, Jul 19, 2006
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  8. dirtbag

    Guest

    Tom The Great wrote:
    > On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:00:25 -0400, dirtbag <>
    > wrote:


    > BTW, as for smelly, go to a computer show. My goodness, those
    > overweight geeks don't know what a shower is. ;) But still computers
    > workers are here to stay, for awhile now. :p


    OMG that is so true. The last time I went to one of those (almost 4
    yrs ago) I felt embarassed to be there. The deals aren't great and the
    smell is horrifying...
    , Jul 19, 2006
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  9. dirtbag

    Clogwog Guest

    wrote:
    > Tom The Great wrote:
    >> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:00:25 -0400, dirtbag <>
    >> wrote:

    >
    >> BTW, as for smelly, go to a computer show. My goodness, those
    >> overweight geeks don't know what a shower is. ;) But still
    >> computers workers are here to stay, for awhile now. :p

    >
    > OMG that is so true. The last time I went to one of those (almost 4
    > yrs ago) I felt embarassed to be there. The deals aren't great and
    > the smell is horrifying...


    I hate smelly cunts too!
    http://www.thehot5.com/tgp/hh/15/hairy-pussy/data/hairy-pussy-hairy-female-4.jpg
    Clogwog, Jul 19, 2006
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  10. dirtbag

    'Key Guest

    Re: Is Locksmithing a dead trade for losers? / attn "Tom The Great"

    "Tom The Great" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:00:25 -0400, dirtbag
    > <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I'm a 55 year old mechanical engineer interested in a
    >>retirement career to
    >>earn a couple of extra bucks.
    >>I have always been interested in locksmithing and in fact
    >>over the years
    >>have learned how lockas work, how to to pick, code and
    >>decode cylinders
    >>and even pick GM sidebar locks, albeit with variable
    >>results. I'm no Hank
    >>Spicer!!
    >>
    >>However, I look at locksmithing in the current times as a
    >>dead trade
    >>inhabited with lower class people who have little skills,
    >>love for the
    >>trade but simple people who want to make a buck.
    >>
    >>I went to a trade show last year (MLNJ) and it was filled
    >>with smelly,
    >>slimy, moronic people who claimed to be smiths'.
    >>
    >>Seriously the stench in the convention center was so bad I
    >>had to walk
    >>outside every 10 minutes or so to get fresh air.
    >>
    >>I also heard from several of the exhibitors there that
    >>many items had been
    >>stolen by attendees.
    >>
    >>Pretty sad.
    >>
    >>So is this what the trade has become?
    >>
    >>Toothless, unclean morons in search of a bar of soap?
    >>Pretty sad.
    >>

    >
    >
    > Now I understand this is a broad generization, but I have
    > to make the
    > same, you can make your claims against almost any trade
    > industry. I
    > worked as a Chimney Sweep in Colorado Springs, for a very
    > highly well
    > known good company. The average chimney sweep employee
    > was a person
    > who was only a temp, very dissovled/dirty, or didn't care
    > about the
    > work they did. Because of this, the company that worked
    > for took the
    > time to train their employees, only hire good employees,
    > and only
    > behave professionally. The company is has been
    > recoginized by the BBB
    > many times with awards, and the local chamber of commerce.
    >
    > The moral of this story, 99% of the sweeps in Colorado
    > Springs might
    > be like your 'lock smiths' but because this chimney sweep
    > set itself
    > apart from the rest, by becoming the best. This has
    > rewarded them
    > with above average repeate customers, and customers
    > willing to wait a
    > long time for their expertise. And you can too, in lock
    > smithing if
    > you were interested.
    >
    > BTW, as for smelly, go to a computer show. My goodness,
    > those
    > overweight geeks don't know what a shower is. ;) But
    > still computers
    > workers are here to stay, for awhile now. :p
    >
    > later,
    >
    > tom @ www.NoCostAds.com
    >



    though you are correct, the OP is just a troll.
    why respond to him at all ?
    doesn't even deserve a response.
    why cross-post your response to groups that really don't
    care
    about the trolls posting to begin with ?

    this is cross-posted just to find you "Tom The Great" .
    I know you are NOT on the locksmith group.

    g'day
    --
    "Key"
    =====
    'Key, Jul 19, 2006
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    Toolman Tim Guest

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    Toolman Tim, Jul 19, 2006
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    Guest

    , Jul 19, 2006
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  13. dirtbag

    Dustin Guest

    "Clogwog" <> wrote in
    news::

    > wrote:
    >> Tom The Great wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:00:25 -0400, dirtbag <>
    >>> wrote:

    >>
    >>> BTW, as for smelly, go to a computer show. My goodness, those
    >>> overweight geeks don't know what a shower is. ;) But still
    >>> computers workers are here to stay, for awhile now. :p

    >>
    >> OMG that is so true. The last time I went to one of those (almost 4
    >> yrs ago) I felt embarassed to be there. The deals aren't great and
    >> the smell is horrifying...

    >
    > I hate smelly cunts too!


    Quit following kman around? He'll bend over for you soon enough.


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    Dustin, Jul 29, 2006
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    Lockie Guest

    I'm 50, and have been self employed in my own business for the past 20
    years. I'm also thinking about retirement time too ;)

    I been picking locks for as long as I can remember. But I have to agree with
    you about most locksmiths. I think I'd rather see my daughter date a gangsta
    rap singer over most lockies I've met! And I hate rap music!

    But don't judge the trade by the players!

    There are some cool lockies out there :)

    I love tinkering with locks so much that I'm trying to learn as much as I
    can about it. Not that I have to, but I would like to be able to do some
    thing I enjoy after retirement. I'm not in to golf at all! I'm not the least
    bit concerned what other lockies look like or act like. And I'm not conerned
    with relying on the trade as my main bread winner. I enjoy it, and if I can
    make a little supplementary income from it I'm fine. I can still work as a
    consultant in my other line of expertise.

    I don't see the locksmith trade as dead, far from it here in the states
    where we seriously lag behind in residential locks. Most American consumers
    are totally clueless about locks, they will buy cheap locks because that's
    all most outlets sell. When confronted with a real quality lock that costs
    more, they will still turn to the cheapie to save a few bucks! So the
    business is secure here for a long time to come.

    BTW, also smart would be to learn about residential security too ;)

    Where I do see major advances is in the automotive end of the business! This
    is a area you will need to keep up with frequently! Auto locks are getting
    very sophisticated, and bypass almost impossible on many newer cars! I see
    this as a potential goldmine in a way! If you can master this end and keep
    up with it, you will always have work, because people will always lock
    themselves out of cars!

    In the residential end, easy picking all the way around with no end in
    sight!

    The commercial side is also verry interesting and more difficult! These
    locks do require real skills! Many special needs and higher security levels!

    If your looking to make money, you need to be good on auto and commercial.

    But for heavens sake, don't let some dickheads discourage you from a
    otherwise great and fun line of work!

    "dirtbag" < <mailto:>> wrote in message
    <news:bghvg.6486$>...> I'm a 55 year old mechanical
    engineer interested in a retirement career to

    > earn a couple of extra bucks.


    > I have always been interested in locksmithing and in fact over the years


    > have learned how lockas work, how to to pick, code and decode cylinders


    > and even pick GM sidebar locks, albeit with variable results. I'm no Hank


    > Spicer!!


    >


    > However, I look at locksmithing in the current times as a dead trade


    > inhabited with lower class people who have little skills, love for the


    > trade but simple people who want to make a buck.


    >


    > I went to a trade show last year (MLNJ) and it was filled with smelly,


    > slimy, moronic people who claimed to be smiths'.


    >


    > Seriously the stench in the convention center was so bad I had to walk


    > outside every 10 minutes or so to get fresh air.


    >


    > I also heard from several of the exhibitors there that many items had been


    > stolen by attendees.


    >


    > Pretty sad.


    >


    > So is this what the trade has become?


    >


    > Toothless, unclean morons in search of a bar of soap?


    > Pretty sad.


    >


    >
    Lockie, Aug 6, 2006
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