Internet Phone Company Halts Operations

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    Tom Malcolm Guest

    It's a real bummer - Anyone use Skype Out unlimited - at $30 a year,
    is is almost as good as the $200 a year/up VOIP guys?


    > I have been reading this all over the news also, but the web site says
    > nothing and still allows people to sign up.
     
    Tom Malcolm, Jul 20, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest

    "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    news:1i1jq0u.bnvms05ie3j8N%...
    > It's a real bummer - Anyone use Skype Out unlimited - at $30 a year,
    > is is almost as good as the $200 a year/up VOIP guys?
    >




    I do, and I got it in January at 14.95 before they ended the sale.
    The service is so-so, and many limitations.

    They programmed the software to check your IP location. So if you leave the
    country, you can no longer use the unlimited service.
    I would suspect to prevent from people from selling accounts to people in
    other countries.

    The biggest complaint form people is they have trouble hearing me, and echo.
    A PhD in computer science told me once that if you can do in hardware, the
    same can be done in software.
    Real world experience say BULL SHIT.
    Having a box plugged into the internet sounds a LOT better than Skype's
    voice software garbage.

    Problem with Skype is their propritary protocol and that all hardware still
    has to go through their software which means it's still gonna sound like
    crap.
    I don't want to leave a power sucking computer on all the time. Maybe in
    Socialist Europe (where Skype is located) they can do that where I am sure
    the government subsidizes the price of electricity.

    On the receiving side it sounds good, but as I mentioned before people
    always seem to have trouble hearing you.
    Though in the past few days I noticed it has sounded better.

    Forget about SkpeIn.
    I was just about to go ahead and purchase it for $35 for a year. When I
    noticed they changed the freaking price. Doubled it.
    Screw them. You can get a FREE incoming number from www.aimphoneline.com.
    (nearest large city)
    OR you can Buy a number of your choice from Yahoo! Phone for a lot cheaper.
    You can also get a free inbound number using hardware from IPKall.com,
    though you have to use it with a service such as www.freeworlddialup.com
    which only gives you a virtual number, hence no calling to regular phone
    lines, except toll free numbers.

    That is free and sounds better than Skype.










    >
    >> I have been reading this all over the news also, but the web site says
    >> nothing and still allows people to sign up.

    >
    >
     
    GeekBoy, Jul 20, 2007
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    Tom Malcolm Guest

    Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.



    GeekBoy <> wrote:

    > "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    > news:1i1jq0u.bnvms05ie3j8N%...
    > > It's a real bummer - Anyone use Skype Out unlimited - at $30 a year,
    > > is is almost as good as the $200 a year/up VOIP guys?
    > >

    >
    >
    >
    > I do, and I got it in January at 14.95 before they ended the sale.
    > The service is so-so, and many limitations.
    >
    > They programmed the software to check your IP location. So if you leave the
    > country, you can no longer use the unlimited service.
    > I would suspect to prevent from people from selling accounts to people in
    > other countries.
    >
    > The biggest complaint form people is they have trouble hearing me, and echo.
    > A PhD in computer science told me once that if you can do in hardware, the
    > same can be done in software.
    > Real world experience say BULL SHIT.
    > Having a box plugged into the internet sounds a LOT better than Skype's
    > voice software garbage.
    >
    > Problem with Skype is their propritary protocol and that all hardware still
    > has to go through their software which means it's still gonna sound like
    > crap.
    > I don't want to leave a power sucking computer on all the time. Maybe in
    > Socialist Europe (where Skype is located) they can do that where I am sure
    > the government subsidizes the price of electricity.
    >
    > On the receiving side it sounds good, but as I mentioned before people
    > always seem to have trouble hearing you.
    > Though in the past few days I noticed it has sounded better.
    >
    > Forget about SkpeIn.
    > I was just about to go ahead and purchase it for $35 for a year. When I
    > noticed they changed the freaking price. Doubled it.
    > Screw them. You can get a FREE incoming number from www.aimphoneline.com.
    > (nearest large city)
    > OR you can Buy a number of your choice from Yahoo! Phone for a lot cheaper.
    > You can also get a free inbound number using hardware from IPKall.com,
    > though you have to use it with a service such as www.freeworlddialup.com
    > which only gives you a virtual number, hence no calling to regular phone
    > lines, except toll free numbers.
    >
    > That is free and sounds better than Skype.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    > >> I have been reading this all over the news also, but the web site says
    > >> nothing and still allows people to sign up.

    > >
    > >
     
    Tom Malcolm, Jul 21, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest

    "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    news:1i1kgi4.1th6zcei6e2mwN%...
    > Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    > it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.
    >
    >
    >


    Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
    additional options.




    > GeekBoy <> wrote:
    >
    >> "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    >> news:1i1jq0u.bnvms05ie3j8N%...
    >> > It's a real bummer - Anyone use Skype Out unlimited - at $30 a year,
    >> > is is almost as good as the $200 a year/up VOIP guys?
    >> >

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> I do, and I got it in January at 14.95 before they ended the sale.
    >> The service is so-so, and many limitations.
    >>
    >> They programmed the software to check your IP location. So if you leave
    >> the
    >> country, you can no longer use the unlimited service.
    >> I would suspect to prevent from people from selling accounts to people in
    >> other countries.
    >>
    >> The biggest complaint form people is they have trouble hearing me, and
    >> echo.
    >> A PhD in computer science told me once that if you can do in hardware,
    >> the
    >> same can be done in software.
    >> Real world experience say BULL SHIT.
    >> Having a box plugged into the internet sounds a LOT better than Skype's
    >> voice software garbage.
    >>
    >> Problem with Skype is their propritary protocol and that all hardware
    >> still
    >> has to go through their software which means it's still gonna sound like
    >> crap.
    >> I don't want to leave a power sucking computer on all the time. Maybe in
    >> Socialist Europe (where Skype is located) they can do that where I am
    >> sure
    >> the government subsidizes the price of electricity.
    >>
    >> On the receiving side it sounds good, but as I mentioned before people
    >> always seem to have trouble hearing you.
    >> Though in the past few days I noticed it has sounded better.
    >>
    >> Forget about SkpeIn.
    >> I was just about to go ahead and purchase it for $35 for a year. When I
    >> noticed they changed the freaking price. Doubled it.
    >> Screw them. You can get a FREE incoming number from www.aimphoneline.com.
    >> (nearest large city)
    >> OR you can Buy a number of your choice from Yahoo! Phone for a lot
    >> cheaper.
    >> You can also get a free inbound number using hardware from IPKall.com,
    >> though you have to use it with a service such as www.freeworlddialup.com
    >> which only gives you a virtual number, hence no calling to regular phone
    >> lines, except toll free numbers.
    >>
    >> That is free and sounds better than Skype.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> >
    >> >> I have been reading this all over the news also, but the web site says
    >> >> nothing and still allows people to sign up.
    >> >
    >> >
     
    GeekBoy, Jul 21, 2007
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    Tom Malcolm Guest

    > "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    > news:1i1kgi4.1th6zcei6e2mwN%...
    > > Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    > > it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.


    > Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
    > additional options.


    Thanks, I can't find any other options or features beyond Packet8,
    and Trend Micro PC-Cillin says Lingo is a dangerous site ;)
     
    Tom Malcolm, Jul 21, 2007
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    Tom Malcolm Guest

    It seems ViaTalk is a good choice too...


    > > Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
    > > additional options.

    > Thanks, I can't find any other options or features beyond Packet8,
    > and Trend Micro PC-Cillin says Lingo is a dangerous site ;)
    >
    >
     
    Tom Malcolm, Jul 21, 2007
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    Moe Guest

    Tom Malcolm wrote:
    > > "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    >> news:1i1kgi4.1th6zcei6e2mwN%...
    >>> Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    >>> it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.

    >
    >> Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
    >> additional options.

    >
    > Thanks, I can't find any other options or features beyond Packet8,
    > and Trend Micro PC-Cillin says Lingo is a dangerous site ;)
    >
    >

    I've used Cordia for a couple of years, I'm on the 9.95 a month plan and
    I've been satisfied, I'm on cable modem FWIW. Also I'm not a shill for
    Cordia. I started with them because at the time Vonage wasn't offered
    in my area code. I don't use my phone much but so far Cordia has been
    OK. A couple of problems with billing and we got that straightened out,
    and all in all it gets the job done. Voice quality is good, very good.
    I see they have a special for SunRocket members. You decide for
    yourself. Hell, now that I think of it, I ought to call them and see
    if I can get a commission. What the hell, I've been satisfied enough
    with them to recommend them and I can't say that about Tiger Direct, a
    couple of credit card companies, Red Lobster, and many other places with
    which I do business. Oh yea, when the cable is dead, the phone is
    dead! 911 costs extra, there is some kind of federal tax that adds 50
    cents to the bill and runs the bill up to, hummm just looked at my bill,
    looks like I'm on a 14.95/month plan with the fed tax it comes to
    16.45 a month. I'd better check into this.
    https://www.cordiaip.com/default.asp
     
    Moe, Jul 21, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest

    "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    news:1i1le42.waisi49stvt8N%...
    > > "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    >> news:1i1kgi4.1th6zcei6e2mwN%...
    >> > Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    >> > it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.

    >
    >> Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
    >> additional options.

    >
    > Thanks, I can't find any other options or features beyond Packet8,
    > and Trend Micro PC-Cillin says Lingo is a dangerous site ;)
    >


    I mean you can call more places for the included price, and it offers more
    numbers from the US and other coutries.

    >
     
    GeekBoy, Jul 21, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest

    "Moe" <> wrote in message
    news:Tnqoi.1981$...
    > Tom Malcolm wrote:
    >> > "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:1i1kgi4.1th6zcei6e2mwN%...
    >>>> Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    >>>> it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.

    >>
    >>> Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
    >>> additional options.

    >>
    >> Thanks, I can't find any other options or features beyond Packet8,
    >> and Trend Micro PC-Cillin says Lingo is a dangerous site ;)
    >>
    >>

    > I've used Cordia for a couple of years, I'm on the 9.95 a month plan and
    > I've been satisfied, I'm on cable modem FWIW. Also I'm not a shill for
    > Cordia. I started with them because at the time Vonage wasn't offered in
    > my area code. I don't use my phone much but so far Cordia has been


    Oh, it was offered, you just had to know how to get around it.




    > OK. A couple of problems with billing and we got that straightened out,
    > and all in all it gets the job done. Voice quality is good, very good. I
    > see they have a special for SunRocket members. You decide for yourself.
    > Hell, now that I think of it, I ought to call them and see if I can get a
    > commission. What the hell, I've been satisfied enough with them to
    > recommend them and I can't say that about Tiger Direct, a couple of credit
    > card companies, Red Lobster, and many other places with which I do
    > business. Oh yea, when the cable is dead, the phone is dead! 911 costs
    > extra, there is some kind of federal tax that adds 50 cents to the bill
    > and runs the bill up to, hummm just looked at my bill, looks like I'm on a
    > 14.95/month plan with the fed tax it comes to 16.45 a month. I'd better
    > check into this.
    > https://www.cordiaip.com/default.asp
    >
     
    GeekBoy, Jul 21, 2007
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    Moe Guest

    GeekBoy wrote:
    > "Moe" <> wrote in message
    > news:Tnqoi.1981$...
    >> Tom Malcolm wrote:
    >>> > "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:1i1kgi4.1th6zcei6e2mwN%...
    >>>>> Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    >>>>> it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.
    >>>> Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
    >>>> additional options.
    >>> Thanks, I can't find any other options or features beyond Packet8,
    >>> and Trend Micro PC-Cillin says Lingo is a dangerous site ;)
    >>>
    >>>

    >> I've used Cordia for a couple of years, I'm on the 9.95 a month plan and
    >> I've been satisfied, I'm on cable modem FWIW. Also I'm not a shill for
    >> Cordia. I started with them because at the time Vonage wasn't offered in
    >> my area code. I don't use my phone much but so far Cordia has been

    >
    > Oh, it was offered, you just had to know how to get around it.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >> OK. A couple of problems with billing and we got that straightened out,
    >> and all in all it gets the job done. Voice quality is good, very good. I
    >> see they have a special for SunRocket members. You decide for yourself.
    >> Hell, now that I think of it, I ought to call them and see if I can get a
    >> commission. What the hell, I've been satisfied enough with them to
    >> recommend them and I can't say that about Tiger Direct, a couple of credit
    >> card companies, Red Lobster, and many other places with which I do
    >> business. Oh yea, when the cable is dead, the phone is dead! 911 costs
    >> extra, there is some kind of federal tax that adds 50 cents to the bill
    >> and runs the bill up to, hummm just looked at my bill, looks like I'm on a
    >> 14.95/month plan with the fed tax it comes to 16.45 a month. I'd better
    >> check into this.
    >> https://www.cordiaip.com/default.asp
    >>

    >
    > Oh, it was offered, you just had to know how to get around it.

    I was on it, I don't check the bill very often, and I'm not sure I
    didn't up the minutes because I ran over? Whatever, it's a hassle to
    cut and paste into excel to check the minutes, I guess I'm getting old.
    Doesn't seem worth the bother but I might get around to doing it,
    after I get the yard mowed. Another pain in arse type thing. Life
    used to be simpler when I was charged 17 cents a minute to call a town
    11 miles away because it was on a different phone service. Phone bills
    used to run 90 bucks a months back in those days sometimes 150 a month.
    Time money, nickels dimes. This isn't getting the yard mowed.
     
    Moe, Jul 21, 2007
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    Bob M Guest

    Tom Malcolm wrote:
    > Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    > it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.


    Before you decide, do yourself a favor and check out Voip Your Life.
    I've been a customer for 3 months now and I can't say enough good things
    about them. Calls are crystal clear and the only time I did have a
    support question the phone was answered on the second ring. Not sure if
    they have a yearly price or not. I don't work for VYL. I'm just a very
    satisfied customer. I came from Vonage and after that labotomy I feel
    like I'm in Heaven.

    Bob
     
    Bob M, Jul 21, 2007
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    Tom Malcolm Guest

    > Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    > it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.



    Thanks for your suggestions gang - I need to call Asian countries
    like the Philippines for a low minute rate - and Packet8 seems
    to fit tha bill best of all the sites mentioned in this thread. thanks.
     
    Tom Malcolm, Jul 21, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest

    "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    news:1i1lsoy.1aomm4onwq1boN%...
    > > Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    >> it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.

    >
    >
    > Thanks for your suggestions gang - I need to call Asian countries
    > like the Philippines for a low minute rate - and Packet8 seems
    > to fit tha bill best of all the sites mentioned in this thread. thanks.
    >


    You may want to look at inPhonex.com then.

    It has many unlimited calling plans.
     
    GeekBoy, Jul 21, 2007
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  16. Moe

    Tom Malcolm Guest

    > > Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
    > > it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.


    I signed up with Packet8, as it seemed to fit my needs best,
    will post a review here soon.
     
    Tom Malcolm, Jul 23, 2007
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  17. Moe

    Tom Malcolm Guest


    > I signed up with Packet8, as it seemed to fit my needs best,
    > will post a review here soon.


    Got my Packet8 phone thing, plugged it in, got my
    activation code - as good as Sunrocket was - only
    thing is you have to dial 1 first when doing long distance.
    SunRocket let you skip that. So far, so good!
    Their web site is pretty easy to figure out, and
    they did answer the support phone.
     
    Tom Malcolm, Jul 26, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest

    "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
    news:1i1tp22.1ag94ew1nh8eqcN%...
    >
    >> I signed up with Packet8, as it seemed to fit my needs best,
    >> will post a review here soon.

    >
    > Got my Packet8 phone thing, plugged it in, got my
    > activation code - as good as Sunrocket was - only
    > thing is you have to dial 1 first when doing long distance.
    > SunRocket let you skip that. So far, so good!
    > Their web site is pretty easy to figure out, and
    > they did answer the support phone.


    With a hindu accient?
     
    GeekBoy, Jul 26, 2007
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    Tom Malcolm Guest

    > > Their web site is pretty easy to figure out, and
    > > they did answer the support phone. Packet8

    >
    > With a hindu accient?



    No, with an American accent...
     
    Tom Malcolm, Jul 26, 2007
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