Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by =?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=, Jun 5, 2005.

  1. When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation for
    this 64 bit driver?
    --
    AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid 0,
    2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU, NEC
    DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.
    =?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=, Jun 5, 2005
    #1
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  2. Yes. After installation, open Device Manager, double click AMD Athlon 64
    Processor xxxx+, click the Driver tab, click Update Driver, select "No,
    not at this time", click Next, select "Install from a list or specific
    location (Advanced)", click Next, select "Don't search. I will choose
    the driver to install.", click Next, click Have Disk..., click Browse
    and navigate to C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD\Athlon 64 Processor Driver,
    click amdk8.inf and click Open, click Ok, click Next, and finally click
    Finish. A reboot is required for changes to take effect.

    Rafael Rivera
    Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/Rafael

    AMD4me2 wrote:
    > When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    > AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    > files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation for
    > this 64 bit driver?
    Rafael Rivera [Extended64.com], Jun 5, 2005
    #2
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  3. OK. Thanks.
    --
    AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid 0,
    2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU, NEC
    DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.


    "Rafael Rivera [Extended64.com]" wrote:

    > Yes. After installation, open Device Manager, double click AMD Athlon 64
    > Processor xxxx+, click the Driver tab, click Update Driver, select "No,
    > not at this time", click Next, select "Install from a list or specific
    > location (Advanced)", click Next, select "Don't search. I will choose
    > the driver to install.", click Next, click Have Disk..., click Browse
    > and navigate to C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD\Athlon 64 Processor Driver,
    > click amdk8.inf and click Open, click Ok, click Next, and finally click
    > Finish. A reboot is required for changes to take effect.
    >
    > Rafael Rivera
    > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/Rafael
    >
    > AMD4me2 wrote:
    > > When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    > > AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    > > files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation for
    > > this 64 bit driver?

    >
    =?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=, Jun 5, 2005
    #3
  4. Hello,
    No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for 32-bit
    applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    Not sure why their installation program defaults to a 32-bit application
    program files folder.
    Thanks,
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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    >When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    >AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    >files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation

    for
    >this 64 bit driver?
    >--
    >AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid

    0,
    >2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU, NEC
    >DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.
    >
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT], Jun 6, 2005
    #4
  5. =?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Darrell.

    Whoa!! Could you clarify that point, please?

    > No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for 32-bit
    > applications not for 64-bit drivers.


    Since \Program Files (x86) first showed up in WinXP x64, I assumed that this
    was for 64-bit programs (in spite of the ambiguous x86 name). Are you
    saying that my intuition was off by about 180 degrees? I got it exactly
    backwards! I see that several folders (including Internet Explorer and
    Outlook Express) are duplicated in both of them.

    Where can we read ANY documentation as to what the (x86) folder is - and is
    not - meant for?

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP

    ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello,
    > No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for 32-bit
    > applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    > Not sure why their installation program defaults to a 32-bit application
    > program files folder.
    > Thanks,
    > Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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    >>When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    >>AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    >>files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation

    > for
    >>this 64 bit driver?
    >>--
    >>AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid

    > 0,
    >>2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU, NEC
    >>DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.
    R. C. White, Jun 6, 2005
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  6. Hello,
    The Program Files (x86) folder first appeared with the Itanium releases
    back in Windows 2001.
    Sorry to say yes your intuition was off by 180 degrees. It is reversed.
    The Program Files (x86) folder contains the 32-bit Applications. When a
    32-bit Application is installed the Windows Installer should recognize that
    it's a 32-bit application and change the pathing from \program files to
    \program files (x86).
    The folder \Program Files should contain only 64-bit files.
    You can check this by extracting filever.exe from the support.cab from the
    cd and use that to check file versions in a CMD Window.

    Here are a couple of links
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/isv/technology/64bitwindows/x64faq/developmentfaq/
    default.aspx

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win64/win64
    /running_32_bit_applications.asp


    Thanks,
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
    --------------------
    >From: "R. C. White" <>
    >References: <>

    <>
    >Subject: Re: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:53:49 -0500
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    >Hi, Darrell.
    >
    >Whoa!! Could you clarify that point, please?
    >
    >> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    32-bit
    >> applications not for 64-bit drivers.

    >
    >Since \Program Files (x86) first showed up in WinXP x64, I assumed that

    this
    >was for 64-bit programs (in spite of the ambiguous x86 name). Are you
    >saying that my intuition was off by about 180 degrees? I got it exactly
    >backwards! I see that several folders (including Internet Explorer and
    >Outlook Express) are duplicated in both of them.
    >
    >Where can we read ANY documentation as to what the (x86) folder is - and

    is
    >not - meant for?
    >
    >RC
    >--
    >R. C. White, CPA
    >San Marcos, TX
    >
    >Microsoft Windows MVP
    >
    >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> Hello,
    >> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    32-bit
    >> applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    >> Not sure why their installation program defaults to a 32-bit application
    >> program files folder.
    >> Thanks,
    >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >>
    >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

    rights
    >> --------------------
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    >>>
    >>>When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    >>>AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    >>>files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation

    >> for
    >>>this 64 bit driver?
    >>>--
    >>>AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid

    >> 0,
    >>>2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU, NEC
    >>>DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.

    >
    >
    >
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT], Jun 6, 2005
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  7. =?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=

    Piers James Guest

    well that's interesting, because on my installation both the AMD processor
    driver and the ATI drivers have entries under the "program files (x86)" not
    the "program files" dir!!!


    ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello,
    > The Program Files (x86) folder first appeared with the Itanium releases
    > back in Windows 2001.
    > Sorry to say yes your intuition was off by 180 degrees. It is reversed.
    > The Program Files (x86) folder contains the 32-bit Applications. When a
    > 32-bit Application is installed the Windows Installer should recognize
    > that
    > it's a 32-bit application and change the pathing from \program files to
    > \program files (x86).
    > The folder \Program Files should contain only 64-bit files.
    > You can check this by extracting filever.exe from the support.cab from the
    > cd and use that to check file versions in a CMD Window.
    >
    > Here are a couple of links
    > http://msdn.microsoft.com/isv/technology/64bitwindows/x64faq/developmentfaq/
    > default.aspx
    >
    > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win64/win64
    > /running_32_bit_applications.asp
    >
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
    > --------------------
    >>From: "R. C. White" <>
    >>References: <>

    > <>
    >>Subject: Re: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:53:49 -0500
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    >>
    >>Hi, Darrell.
    >>
    >>Whoa!! Could you clarify that point, please?
    >>
    >>> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    > 32-bit
    >>> applications not for 64-bit drivers.

    >>
    >>Since \Program Files (x86) first showed up in WinXP x64, I assumed that

    > this
    >>was for 64-bit programs (in spite of the ambiguous x86 name). Are you
    >>saying that my intuition was off by about 180 degrees? I got it exactly
    >>backwards! I see that several folders (including Internet Explorer and
    >>Outlook Express) are duplicated in both of them.
    >>
    >>Where can we read ANY documentation as to what the (x86) folder is - and

    > is
    >>not - meant for?
    >>
    >>RC
    >>--
    >>R. C. White, CPA
    >>San Marcos, TX
    >>
    >>Microsoft Windows MVP
    >>
    >>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> Hello,
    >>> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    > 32-bit
    >>> applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    >>> Not sure why their installation program defaults to a 32-bit application
    >>> program files folder.
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >>>
    >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

    > rights
    >>> --------------------
    >>>>Thread-Topic: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
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    >>>>Subject: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
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    >>>>
    >>>>When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    >>>>AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    >>>>files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation
    >>> for
    >>>>this 64 bit driver?
    >>>>--
    >>>>AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid
    >>> 0,
    >>>>2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU,
    >>>>NEC
    >>>>DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.

    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    Piers James, Jun 6, 2005
    #7
  8. Despite what people here are blabbing about, it doesn't matter. It's
    just extracting files, you could extract to C:\TEMP if you really wanted to.

    Rafael Rivera
    Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/Rafael

    Piers James wrote:
    > well that's interesting, because on my installation both the AMD processor
    > driver and the ATI drivers have entries under the "program files (x86)" not
    > the "program files" dir!!!
    >
    >
    > ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>Hello,
    >>The Program Files (x86) folder first appeared with the Itanium releases
    >>back in Windows 2001.
    >>Sorry to say yes your intuition was off by 180 degrees. It is reversed.
    >>The Program Files (x86) folder contains the 32-bit Applications. When a
    >>32-bit Application is installed the Windows Installer should recognize
    >>that
    >>it's a 32-bit application and change the pathing from \program files to
    >>\program files (x86).
    >>The folder \Program Files should contain only 64-bit files.
    >>You can check this by extracting filever.exe from the support.cab from the
    >>cd and use that to check file versions in a CMD Window.
    >>
    >>Here are a couple of links
    >>http://msdn.microsoft.com/isv/technology/64bitwindows/x64faq/developmentfaq/
    >>default.aspx
    >>
    >>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win64/win64
    >>/running_32_bit_applications.asp
    >>
    >>
    >>Thanks,
    >>Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >>
    >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
    >>--------------------
    >>
    >>>From: "R. C. White" <>
    >>>References: <>

    >>
    >><>
    >>
    >>>Subject: Re: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:53:49 -0500
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    >>>
    >>>Hi, Darrell.
    >>>
    >>>Whoa!! Could you clarify that point, please?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    >>
    >>32-bit
    >>
    >>>>applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    >>>
    >>>Since \Program Files (x86) first showed up in WinXP x64, I assumed that

    >>
    >>this
    >>
    >>>was for 64-bit programs (in spite of the ambiguous x86 name). Are you
    >>>saying that my intuition was off by about 180 degrees? I got it exactly
    >>>backwards! I see that several folders (including Internet Explorer and
    >>>Outlook Express) are duplicated in both of them.
    >>>
    >>>Where can we read ANY documentation as to what the (x86) folder is - and

    >>
    >>is
    >>
    >>>not - meant for?
    >>>
    >>>RC
    >>>--
    >>>R. C. White, CPA
    >>>San Marcos, TX
    >>>
    >>>Microsoft Windows MVP
    >>>
    >>>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    >>>news:...
    >>>
    >>>>Hello,
    >>>>No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    >>
    >>32-bit
    >>
    >>>>applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    >>>>Not sure why their installation program defaults to a 32-bit application
    >>>>program files folder.
    >>>>Thanks,
    >>>>Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >>>>
    >>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

    >>
    >>rights
    >>
    >>>>--------------------
    >>>>
    >>>>>Thread-Topic: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>>>>thread-index: AcVp8kAoTBHGvT2pRri3Q6piFb5Izg==
    >>>>>X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 205.161.233.135
    >>>>>From: "=?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=" <>
    >>>>>Subject: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>>>>Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:16:02 -0700
    >>>>>Lines: 8
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    >>>>>
    >>>>>When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    >>>>>AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    >>>>>files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation
    >>>>
    >>>>for
    >>>>
    >>>>>this 64 bit driver?
    >>>>>--
    >>>>>AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid
    >>>>
    >>>>0,
    >>>>
    >>>>>2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU,
    >>>>>NEC
    >>>>>DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >
    >
    Rafael Rivera [Extended64.com], Jun 7, 2005
    #8
  9. =?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=

    R. C. White Guest

    Thanks, Darrell.

    I'll chase down those links and do some reading tomorrow.

    But, as Rafael Rivera says a couple of posts down, does it really matter
    which folder the program files end up in? Or is this just an optional
    organizational tool for the user (me)?

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP

    ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello,
    > The Program Files (x86) folder first appeared with the Itanium releases
    > back in Windows 2001.
    > Sorry to say yes your intuition was off by 180 degrees. It is reversed.
    > The Program Files (x86) folder contains the 32-bit Applications. When a
    > 32-bit Application is installed the Windows Installer should recognize
    > that
    > it's a 32-bit application and change the pathing from \program files to
    > \program files (x86).
    > The folder \Program Files should contain only 64-bit files.
    > You can check this by extracting filever.exe from the support.cab from the
    > cd and use that to check file versions in a CMD Window.
    >
    > Here are a couple of links
    > http://msdn.microsoft.com/isv/technology/64bitwindows/x64faq/developmentfaq/
    > default.aspx
    >
    > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win64/win64
    > /running_32_bit_applications.asp
    >
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
    > --------------------
    >>From: "R. C. White" <>
    >>References: <>

    > <>
    >>Subject: Re: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:53:49 -0500
    >>Lines: 70
    >>Organization: R. C. White
    >>X-Priority: 3
    >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    >>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.1830
    >>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830
    >>X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
    >>Message-ID: <#>
    >>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
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    >>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl
    >>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:6177
    >>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>
    >>Hi, Darrell.
    >>
    >>Whoa!! Could you clarify that point, please?
    >>
    >>> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    > 32-bit
    >>> applications not for 64-bit drivers.

    >>
    >>Since \Program Files (x86) first showed up in WinXP x64, I assumed that

    > this
    >>was for 64-bit programs (in spite of the ambiguous x86 name). Are you
    >>saying that my intuition was off by about 180 degrees? I got it exactly
    >>backwards! I see that several folders (including Internet Explorer and
    >>Outlook Express) are duplicated in both of them.
    >>
    >>Where can we read ANY documentation as to what the (x86) folder is - and

    > is
    >>not - meant for?
    >>
    >>RC
    >>--
    >>R. C. White, CPA
    >>San Marcos, TX
    >>
    >>Microsoft Windows MVP
    >>
    >>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> Hello,
    >>> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    > 32-bit
    >>> applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    >>> Not sure why their installation program defaults to a 32-bit application
    >>> program files folder.
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >>>
    >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

    > rights
    >>> --------------------
    >>>>Thread-Topic: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>>>thread-index: AcVp8kAoTBHGvT2pRri3Q6piFb5Izg==
    >>>>X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 205.161.233.135
    >>>>From: "=?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=" <>
    >>>>Subject: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>>>Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:16:02 -0700
    >>>>Lines: 8
    >>>>Message-ID: <>
    >>>>MIME-Version: 1.0
    >>>>Content-Type: text/plain;
    >>>> charset="Utf-8"
    >>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    >>>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
    >>>>Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
    >>>>Importance: normal
    >>>>Priority: normal
    >>>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
    >>>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
    >>>>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
    >>>>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:5992
    >>>>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>>>
    >>>>When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    >>>>AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    >>>>files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation
    >>> for
    >>>>this 64 bit driver?
    >>>>--
    >>>>AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid
    >>> 0,
    >>>>2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU,
    >>>>NEC
    >>>>DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.
    R. C. White, Jun 7, 2005
    #9
  10. Its basically just to keep things neat and tidy.
    --
    Andre
    Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
    FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

    "Rafael Rivera [Extended64.com]" <rafael*at*extended64*dot*com> wrote in
    message news:...
    > Despite what people here are blabbing about, it doesn't matter. It's just
    > extracting files, you could extract to C:\TEMP if you really wanted to.
    >
    > Rafael Rivera
    > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/Rafael
    >
    > Piers James wrote:
    >> well that's interesting, because on my installation both the AMD
    >> processor driver and the ATI drivers have entries under the "program
    >> files (x86)" not the "program files" dir!!!
    >>
    >>
    >> ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>
    >>>Hello,
    >>>The Program Files (x86) folder first appeared with the Itanium releases
    >>>back in Windows 2001.
    >>>Sorry to say yes your intuition was off by 180 degrees. It is reversed.
    >>>The Program Files (x86) folder contains the 32-bit Applications. When a
    >>>32-bit Application is installed the Windows Installer should recognize
    >>>that
    >>>it's a 32-bit application and change the pathing from \program files to
    >>>\program files (x86).
    >>>The folder \Program Files should contain only 64-bit files.
    >>>You can check this by extracting filever.exe from the support.cab from
    >>>the
    >>>cd and use that to check file versions in a CMD Window.
    >>>
    >>>Here are a couple of links
    >>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/isv/technology/64bitwindows/x64faq/developmentfaq/
    >>>default.aspx
    >>>
    >>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win64/win64
    >>>/running_32_bit_applications.asp
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Thanks,
    >>>Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >>>
    >>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >>>rights
    >>>--------------------
    >>>
    >>>>From: "R. C. White" <>
    >>>>References: <>
    >>>
    >>><>
    >>>
    >>>>Subject: Re: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>>>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:53:49 -0500
    >>>>Lines: 70
    >>>>Organization: R. C. White
    >>>>X-Priority: 3
    >>>>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    >>>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.1830
    >>>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830
    >>>>X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
    >>>>Message-ID: <#>
    >>>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: b-35.dlsrtr.corridor.net 65.111.109.35
    >>>>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl
    >>>>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:6177
    >>>>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>>>
    >>>>Hi, Darrell.
    >>>>
    >>>>Whoa!! Could you clarify that point, please?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for
    >>>
    >>>32-bit
    >>>
    >>>>>applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    >>>>
    >>>>Since \Program Files (x86) first showed up in WinXP x64, I assumed that
    >>>
    >>>this
    >>>
    >>>>was for 64-bit programs (in spite of the ambiguous x86 name). Are you
    >>>>saying that my intuition was off by about 180 degrees? I got it exactly
    >>>>backwards! I see that several folders (including Internet Explorer and
    >>>>Outlook Express) are duplicated in both of them.
    >>>>
    >>>>Where can we read ANY documentation as to what the (x86) folder is - and
    >>>
    >>>is
    >>>
    >>>>not - meant for?
    >>>>
    >>>>RC
    >>>>--
    >>>>R. C. White, CPA
    >>>>San Marcos, TX
    >>>>
    >>>>Microsoft Windows MVP
    >>>>
    >>>>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in
    >>>>message
    >>>>news:...
    >>>>
    >>>>>Hello,
    >>>>>No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for
    >>>
    >>>32-bit
    >>>
    >>>>>applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    >>>>>Not sure why their installation program defaults to a 32-bit
    >>>>>application
    >>>>>program files folder.
    >>>>>Thanks,
    >>>>>Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >>>>>
    >>>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >>>
    >>>rights
    >>>
    >>>>>--------------------
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Thread-Topic: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>>>>>thread-index: AcVp8kAoTBHGvT2pRri3Q6piFb5Izg==
    >>>>>>X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 205.161.233.135
    >>>>>>From: "=?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=" <>
    >>>>>>Subject: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>>>>>Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:16:02 -0700
    >>>>>>Lines: 8
    >>>>>>Message-ID: <>
    >>>>>>MIME-Version: 1.0
    >>>>>>Content-Type: text/plain;
    >>>>>>charset="Utf-8"
    >>>>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    >>>>>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
    >>>>>>Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
    >>>>>>Importance: normal
    >>>>>>Priority: normal
    >>>>>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
    >>>>>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>>>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
    >>>>>>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
    >>>>>>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
    >>>>>>microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:5992
    >>>>>>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    >>>>>>AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    >>>>>>files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper
    >>>>>>installation
    >>>>>
    >>>>>for
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>this 64 bit driver?
    >>>>>>--
    >>>>>>AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's,
    >>>>>>Raid
    >>>>>
    >>>>>0,
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU,
    >>>>>>NEC
    >>>>>>DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >>
    Andre Da Costa [Extended64], Jun 7, 2005
    #10
  11. I decided to go ahead with the AMD driver installation and let the
    setup/install program install to it's default location (x86 program files).
    After the installation, I checked installed driver via. device manager and it
    showed the new AMD driver. So it worked. Before and after benchmark showed
    no noticeable improvement. Thanks for your replies.
    AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid 0,
    2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU, NEC
    DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.


    "R. C. White" wrote:

    > Thanks, Darrell.
    >
    > I'll chase down those links and do some reading tomorrow.
    >
    > But, as Rafael Rivera says a couple of posts down, does it really matter
    > which folder the program files end up in? Or is this just an optional
    > organizational tool for the user (me)?
    >
    > RC
    > --
    > R. C. White, CPA
    > San Marcos, TX
    >
    > Microsoft Windows MVP
    >
    > ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Hello,
    > > The Program Files (x86) folder first appeared with the Itanium releases
    > > back in Windows 2001.
    > > Sorry to say yes your intuition was off by 180 degrees. It is reversed.
    > > The Program Files (x86) folder contains the 32-bit Applications. When a
    > > 32-bit Application is installed the Windows Installer should recognize
    > > that
    > > it's a 32-bit application and change the pathing from \program files to
    > > \program files (x86).
    > > The folder \Program Files should contain only 64-bit files.
    > > You can check this by extracting filever.exe from the support.cab from the
    > > cd and use that to check file versions in a CMD Window.
    > >
    > > Here are a couple of links
    > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/isv/technology/64bitwindows/x64faq/developmentfaq/
    > > default.aspx
    > >
    > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win64/win64
    > > /running_32_bit_applications.asp
    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    > >
    > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
    > > --------------------
    > >>From: "R. C. White" <>
    > >>References: <>

    > > <>
    > >>Subject: Re: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    > >>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:53:49 -0500
    > >>Lines: 70
    > >>Organization: R. C. White
    > >>X-Priority: 3
    > >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    > >>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.1830
    > >>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830
    > >>X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
    > >>Message-ID: <#>
    > >>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    > >>NNTP-Posting-Host: b-35.dlsrtr.corridor.net 65.111.109.35
    > >>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl
    > >>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:6177
    > >>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    > >>
    > >>Hi, Darrell.
    > >>
    > >>Whoa!! Could you clarify that point, please?
    > >>
    > >>> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    > > 32-bit
    > >>> applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    > >>
    > >>Since \Program Files (x86) first showed up in WinXP x64, I assumed that

    > > this
    > >>was for 64-bit programs (in spite of the ambiguous x86 name). Are you
    > >>saying that my intuition was off by about 180 degrees? I got it exactly
    > >>backwards! I see that several folders (including Internet Explorer and
    > >>Outlook Express) are duplicated in both of them.
    > >>
    > >>Where can we read ANY documentation as to what the (x86) folder is - and

    > > is
    > >>not - meant for?
    > >>
    > >>RC
    > >>--
    > >>R. C. White, CPA
    > >>San Marcos, TX
    > >>
    > >>Microsoft Windows MVP
    > >>
    > >>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    > >>news:...
    > >>> Hello,
    > >>> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    > > 32-bit
    > >>> applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    > >>> Not sure why their installation program defaults to a 32-bit application
    > >>> program files folder.
    > >>> Thanks,
    > >>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    > >>>
    > >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

    > > rights
    > >>> --------------------
    > >>>>Thread-Topic: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    > >>>>thread-index: AcVp8kAoTBHGvT2pRri3Q6piFb5Izg==
    > >>>>X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 205.161.233.135
    > >>>>From: "=?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=" <>
    > >>>>Subject: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    > >>>>Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:16:02 -0700
    > >>>>Lines: 8
    > >>>>Message-ID: <>
    > >>>>MIME-Version: 1.0
    > >>>>Content-Type: text/plain;
    > >>>> charset="Utf-8"
    > >>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    > >>>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
    > >>>>Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
    > >>>>Importance: normal
    > >>>>Priority: normal
    > >>>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
    > >>>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    > >>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
    > >>>>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
    > >>>>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:5992
    > >>>>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    > >>>>
    > >>>>When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    > >>>>AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    > >>>>files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation
    > >>> for
    > >>>>this 64 bit driver?
    > >>>>--
    > >>>>AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid
    > >>> 0,
    > >>>>2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU,
    > >>>>NEC
    > >>>>DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.

    >
    >
    >
    =?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=, Jun 7, 2005
    #11
  12. =?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=

    DKI Guest

    I noticed that not all installers are intelegent enough to spot the
    difference, like the AMD 64bit CPU driver going into the program files X86
    folder but when i installed some apps one being starwars knights of the old
    republic it pointed to the programs files where the 64bit apps suppose to go

    ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello,
    > The Program Files (x86) folder first appeared with the Itanium releases
    > back in Windows 2001.
    > Sorry to say yes your intuition was off by 180 degrees. It is reversed.
    > The Program Files (x86) folder contains the 32-bit Applications. When a
    > 32-bit Application is installed the Windows Installer should recognize
    > that
    > it's a 32-bit application and change the pathing from \program files to
    > \program files (x86).
    > The folder \Program Files should contain only 64-bit files.
    > You can check this by extracting filever.exe from the support.cab from the
    > cd and use that to check file versions in a CMD Window.
    >
    > Here are a couple of links
    > http://msdn.microsoft.com/isv/technology/64bitwindows/x64faq/developmentfaq/
    > default.aspx
    >
    > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win64/win64
    > /running_32_bit_applications.asp
    >
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
    > --------------------
    >>From: "R. C. White" <>
    >>References: <>

    > <>
    >>Subject: Re: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:53:49 -0500
    >>Lines: 70
    >>Organization: R. C. White
    >>X-Priority: 3
    >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    >>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.1830
    >>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830
    >>X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
    >>Message-ID: <#>
    >>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>NNTP-Posting-Host: b-35.dlsrtr.corridor.net 65.111.109.35
    >>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl
    >>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:6177
    >>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>
    >>Hi, Darrell.
    >>
    >>Whoa!! Could you clarify that point, please?
    >>
    >>> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    > 32-bit
    >>> applications not for 64-bit drivers.

    >>
    >>Since \Program Files (x86) first showed up in WinXP x64, I assumed that

    > this
    >>was for 64-bit programs (in spite of the ambiguous x86 name). Are you
    >>saying that my intuition was off by about 180 degrees? I got it exactly
    >>backwards! I see that several folders (including Internet Explorer and
    >>Outlook Express) are duplicated in both of them.
    >>
    >>Where can we read ANY documentation as to what the (x86) folder is - and

    > is
    >>not - meant for?
    >>
    >>RC
    >>--
    >>R. C. White, CPA
    >>San Marcos, TX
    >>
    >>Microsoft Windows MVP
    >>
    >>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> Hello,
    >>> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for

    > 32-bit
    >>> applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    >>> Not sure why their installation program defaults to a 32-bit application
    >>> program files folder.
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >>>
    >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

    > rights
    >>> --------------------
    >>>>Thread-Topic: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>>>thread-index: AcVp8kAoTBHGvT2pRri3Q6piFb5Izg==
    >>>>X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 205.161.233.135
    >>>>From: "=?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=" <>
    >>>>Subject: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    >>>>Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:16:02 -0700
    >>>>Lines: 8
    >>>>Message-ID: <>
    >>>>MIME-Version: 1.0
    >>>>Content-Type: text/plain;
    >>>> charset="Utf-8"
    >>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    >>>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
    >>>>Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
    >>>>Importance: normal
    >>>>Priority: normal
    >>>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
    >>>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
    >>>>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
    >>>>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:5992
    >>>>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
    >>>>
    >>>>When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    >>>>AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    >>>>files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation
    >>> for
    >>>>this 64 bit driver?
    >>>>--
    >>>>AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's, Raid
    >>> 0,
    >>>>2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU,
    >>>>NEC
    >>>>DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.

    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    DKI, Jun 8, 2005
    #12
  13. =?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=

    Bob Guest

    I don't think that whether something goes in the 32-bit or the 64-bit
    version of the Program Files folder (or the system folders or the
    registry) has anything to do with what that something is. If something
    in Program Files is going to be accessed by a 32-bit app, it has to go
    in the 32-bit Program Files folder because that's where Windows is
    going to send the call. A 64-bit app making the same call would get
    results from the 64-bit folder. If the utilities for a 64-bit driver
    needed to be called by a 32-bit app (it's installer, perhaps?), then
    they'd have to go in the 32-bit folder or they wouldn't be found. If
    part of an application included a 64-bit app that was meant to be
    exec'd by a 32-bit app, it would have to go in the 32-bit folder. If
    you wrote a DLL and supplied both 32-bit and 64-bit version, you'd
    need to use both versions of the folder and put one in each. The
    choice is really dictated by who needs to get to the data, not what
    the data is.

    - Bob
    Bob, Jun 8, 2005
    #13
  14. Hello R.C.
    In most cases it probably will not matter. Some of it may help with
    upgrades in future releases.
    It's just a storage location for most cases, particularly for drivers.
    However if common files are written we could get into trouble, at this
    point mixing 32-bit and 64-bit files,possibly overwriting those files.
    If the app is also used or makes itself available to be called by other
    apps, the call could be directed to the incorrect program files folder
    depending on how the call is made and which platform is being called. If
    the app installs to the Program Files (x86) folder and it's a 64-bit App.
    Now another program makes an OS call to start the app, if it's a 64-bit
    call, the expectation is that it's going to be in \Program Files.
    How about when the applications are updated or both a 32-bit and 64-bit
    version exist. How do you ensure that the correct files get copied to the
    correct location? You could update the wrong platform when you update or
    service the app. It opens the potential for future problems. What works
    today may not work tomorrow, the issue is hidden until a future event takes
    place.
    Thanks,
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
    --------------------
    <From: "R. C. White" <>
    <References: <>
    <>
    <#>
    <>
    <Subject: Re: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    <Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:00:14 -0500
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    <
    <Thanks, Darrell.
    <
    <I'll chase down those links and do some reading tomorrow.
    <
    <But, as Rafael Rivera says a couple of posts down, does it really matter
    <which folder the program files end up in? Or is this just an optional
    <organizational tool for the user (me)?
    <
    <RC
    <--
    <R. C. White, CPA
    <San Marcos, TX
    <
    <Microsoft Windows MVP
    <
    <""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    <news:...
    <> Hello,
    <> The Program Files (x86) folder first appeared with the Itanium releases
    <> back in Windows 2001.
    <> Sorry to say yes your intuition was off by 180 degrees. It is reversed.
    <> The Program Files (x86) folder contains the 32-bit Applications. When a
    <> 32-bit Application is installed the Windows Installer should recognize
    <> that
    <> it's a 32-bit application and change the pathing from \program files to
    <> \program files (x86).
    <> The folder \Program Files should contain only 64-bit files.
    <> You can check this by extracting filever.exe from the support.cab from
    the
    <> cd and use that to check file versions in a CMD Window.
    <>
    <> Here are a couple of links
    <>
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/isv/technology/64bitwindows/x64faq/developmentfaq/
    <> default.aspx
    <>
    <>
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/win64/win64
    <> /running_32_bit_applications.asp
    <>
    <>
    <> Thanks,
    <> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    <>
    <> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights
    <> --------------------
    <>>From: "R. C. White" <>
    <>>References: <>
    <> <>
    <>>Subject: Re: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    <>>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:53:49 -0500
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    <>>
    <>>Hi, Darrell.
    <>>
    <>>Whoa!! Could you clarify that point, please?
    <>>
    <>>> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for
    <> 32-bit
    <>>> applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    <>>
    <>>Since \Program Files (x86) first showed up in WinXP x64, I assumed that
    <> this
    <>>was for 64-bit programs (in spite of the ambiguous x86 name). Are you
    <>>saying that my intuition was off by about 180 degrees? I got it exactly
    <>>backwards! I see that several folders (including Internet Explorer and
    <>>Outlook Express) are duplicated in both of them.
    <>>
    <>>Where can we read ANY documentation as to what the (x86) folder is - and
    <> is
    <>>not - meant for?
    <>>
    <>>RC
    <>>--
    <>>R. C. White, CPA
    <>>San Marcos, TX
    <>>
    <>>Microsoft Windows MVP
    <>>
    <>>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <> wrote in message
    <>>news:...
    <>>> Hello,
    <>>> No it shouldn't be installing to \program files (x86). That is for
    <> 32-bit
    <>>> applications not for 64-bit drivers.
    <>>> Not sure why their installation program defaults to a 32-bit
    application
    <>>> program files folder.
    <>>> Thanks,
    <>>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    <>>>
    <>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    <> rights
    <>>> --------------------
    <>>>>Thread-Topic: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
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    <>>>>X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 205.161.233.135
    <>>>>From: "=?Utf-8?B?QU1ENG1lMg==?=" <>
    <>>>>Subject: Install 64 bit driver to x86 program files?
    <>>>>Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:16:02 -0700
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    <>>>>
    <>>>>When I run self install, updated, AMD Athlon64 CPU driver file ( from
    <>>>>AMD.com--for WinXP Pro x64), the default installation is to: Program
    <>>>>files\(x86)\AMD\Athlon64 Processor driver. Is this proper installation
    <>>> for
    <>>>>this 64 bit driver?
    <>>>>--
    <>>>>AMD Athlon64 3000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, 2X74 GB Raptor HD's,
    Raid
    <>>> 0,
    <>>>>2X512 MB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 RAM, EVGA 6800 GT GPU, Enermax 535W PSU,
    <>>>>NEC
    <>>>>DVD+/-RW & FDD, WinXP Pro x64.
    <
    <
    <
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT], Jun 8, 2005
    #14
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