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  1. Karnev

    Karnev Guest

    to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my connection
    keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?
     
    Karnev, Oct 1, 2003
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  2. Karnev

    Brian H¹© Guest

    Karnev said:

    > to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my connection
    > keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?


    Think of a submarines sonar ping.
     
    Brian H¹©, Oct 1, 2003
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  3. Karnev

    Harrison Guest

    PING allows you to test for basic connectivity to another computer or
    network device. In theory, if you can PING something, then you are
    connected to it. Pinging helps to eleiminate physical connectivity
    issues and insures that traffic is being routed or relayed correctly.

    You can also use Ping to resolve an IP address.
    For instance, if I wanted to know the IP address of abc.com....

    C:\Documents and Settings\Harrison>ping abc.com

    Pinging abc.com [199.181.135.201] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=242
    Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=242
    Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242

    Ping statistics for 199.181.135.201:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 128ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 129ms





    On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:42:22 +0100, "Karnev"
    <> wrote:

    >to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my connection
    >keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?
    >
     
    Harrison, Oct 1, 2003
    #3
  4. Karnev

    why? Guest

    On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:42:22 +0100, Karnev wrote:

    >to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my connection

    http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/PING.html

    >keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?
    >

    Not really, ping only looks at a destination (not quite true) and says
    it's (un)reachable (not quite true). As the connection between your PC
    and say a website may involve 15 (or so) intermediate steps the fault
    could be anywhere along the route.

    http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/t/traceroute.html

    See the BY page on this,
    http://help.blueyonder.co.uk/html/connected/trace.shtml

    There are also some BY newsgroups to try,

    for technical faults / cm connection loss -
    blueyonder.support.access.hi-speed

    for self-help other users/BY tech -
    blueyonder.users.self-help
    or
    blueyonder.users.self-help.networking

    reporting satisfaction with service -
    blueyonder.feedback

    General BY/NTL/BT CM info
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d.h.walker/cmtips/techsupp.html
    see the link for the BY/NTL/BR speed tester as well.

    Me
     
    why?, Oct 1, 2003
    #4
  5. Karnev

    Brian H¹© Guest

    Harrison said:

    > PING allows you to test for basic connectivity to another computer or
    > network device. In theory, if you can PING something, then you are
    > connected to it. Pinging helps to eleiminate physical connectivity
    > issues and insures that traffic is being routed or relayed correctly.
    >
    > You can also use Ping to resolve an IP address.
    > For instance, if I wanted to know the IP address of abc.com....
    >
    > C:\Documents and Settings\Harrison>ping abc.com
    >
    > Pinging abc.com [199.181.135.201] with 32 bytes of data:
    >
    > Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    > Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=242
    > Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=242
    > Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >
    > Ping statistics for 199.181.135.201:
    > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    > Minimum = 128ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 129ms
    >


    Saying what you can use it for isn't an answer to his first question, which was
    "what does that mean"

    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:42:22 +0100, "Karnev"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my connection
    >> keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?
     
    Brian H¹©, Oct 1, 2003
    #5
  6. Karnev

    Harrison Guest

    Thanks for pointing that out.

    On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:17:43 +0100, "Brian H¹©" <>
    wrote:

    >Harrison said:
    >
    >> PING allows you to test for basic connectivity to another computer or
    >> network device. In theory, if you can PING something, then you are
    >> connected to it. Pinging helps to eleiminate physical connectivity
    >> issues and insures that traffic is being routed or relayed correctly.
    >>
    >> You can also use Ping to resolve an IP address.
    >> For instance, if I wanted to know the IP address of abc.com....
    >>
    >> C:\Documents and Settings\Harrison>ping abc.com
    >>
    >> Pinging abc.com [199.181.135.201] with 32 bytes of data:
    >>
    >> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=242
    >> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=242
    >> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >>
    >> Ping statistics for 199.181.135.201:
    >> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    >> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    >> Minimum = 128ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 129ms
    >>

    >
    >Saying what you can use it for isn't an answer to his first question, which was
    >"what does that mean"
    >
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:42:22 +0100, "Karnev"
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my connection
    >>> keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?

    >
    >
     
    Harrison, Oct 1, 2003
    #6
  7. Karnev

    Brian H¹© Guest

    Harrison said:

    > Thanks for pointing that out.
    >


    Is it international top-posters day today?

    > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:17:43 +0100, "Brian H¹©" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Harrison said:
    >>
    >>> PING allows you to test for basic connectivity to another computer or
    >>> network device. In theory, if you can PING something, then you are
    >>> connected to it. Pinging helps to eleiminate physical connectivity
    >>> issues and insures that traffic is being routed or relayed correctly.
    >>>
    >>> You can also use Ping to resolve an IP address.
    >>> For instance, if I wanted to know the IP address of abc.com....
    >>>
    >>> C:\Documents and Settings\Harrison>ping abc.com
    >>>
    >>> Pinging abc.com [199.181.135.201] with 32 bytes of data:
    >>>
    >>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=242
    >>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=242
    >>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >>>
    >>> Ping statistics for 199.181.135.201:
    >>> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    >>> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    >>> Minimum = 128ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 129ms
    >>>

    >>
    >> Saying what you can use it for isn't an answer to his first question, which
    >> was "what does that mean"
    >>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:42:22 +0100, "Karnev"
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my connection
    >>>> keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?
     
    Brian H¹©, Oct 1, 2003
    #7
  8. Karnev

    Harrison Guest

    I always top-post and I live in the US. I'm not usre that answers your
    question, but it's the best I can do.

    On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:48:44 +0100, "Brian H¹©" <>
    wrote:

    >Harrison said:
    >
    >> Thanks for pointing that out.
    >>

    >
    >Is it international top-posters day today?
    >
    >> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:17:43 +0100, "Brian H¹©" <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Harrison said:
    >>>
    >>>> PING allows you to test for basic connectivity to another computer or
    >>>> network device. In theory, if you can PING something, then you are
    >>>> connected to it. Pinging helps to eleiminate physical connectivity
    >>>> issues and insures that traffic is being routed or relayed correctly.
    >>>>
    >>>> You can also use Ping to resolve an IP address.
    >>>> For instance, if I wanted to know the IP address of abc.com....
    >>>>
    >>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Harrison>ping abc.com
    >>>>
    >>>> Pinging abc.com [199.181.135.201] with 32 bytes of data:
    >>>>
    >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=242
    >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=242
    >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >>>>
    >>>> Ping statistics for 199.181.135.201:
    >>>> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    >>>> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    >>>> Minimum = 128ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 129ms
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Saying what you can use it for isn't an answer to his first question, which
    >>> was "what does that mean"
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:42:22 +0100, "Karnev"
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my connection
    >>>>> keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?

    >
    >
     
    Harrison, Oct 1, 2003
    #8
  9. Karnev

    Brian H¹© Guest

    Harrison said:

    > I always top-post and I live in the US. I'm not usre that answers your
    > question, but it's the best I can do.


    What does living in the US have to do with anything?

    When you fill out a questionnaire, do you place your answers underneath the
    questions, or do you write all your answers at the top of the page?

    Something Mara posted earlier:-

    "A newsgroup is an already existing community of people into which you have just
    walked.
    Many of the people posting regularly there have been doing so for a long
    time, they will have established relationships with each other, many will be
    friends offline. It is up to you to fit in with them, not for them to adapt to
    suit you. Before you post your first message, lurk for a while. Forget any bad
    ideas you might have about the word 'lurk' - online it simply means to read
    without posting. By doing this, you will get a feel for the culture of the
    group, who the regular posters are, who is likely to be friendly, who is likely
    to be rude, what the group regards as acceptable in terms of thread drift,
    off-topic posts etc. Every newsgroup is different so get a feel for the culture
    before jumping in."

    >
    > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:48:44 +0100, "Brian H¹©" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Harrison said:
    >>
    >>> Thanks for pointing that out.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Is it international top-posters day today?
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:17:43 +0100, "Brian H¹©" <>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Harrison said:
    >>>>
    >>>>> PING allows you to test for basic connectivity to another computer or
    >>>>> network device. In theory, if you can PING something, then you are
    >>>>> connected to it. Pinging helps to eleiminate physical connectivity
    >>>>> issues and insures that traffic is being routed or relayed correctly.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You can also use Ping to resolve an IP address.
    >>>>> For instance, if I wanted to know the IP address of abc.com....
    >>>>>
    >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Harrison>ping abc.com
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Pinging abc.com [199.181.135.201] with 32 bytes of data:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >>>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=242
    >>>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=242
    >>>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Ping statistics for 199.181.135.201:
    >>>>> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    >>>>> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    >>>>> Minimum = 128ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 129ms
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Saying what you can use it for isn't an answer to his first question, which
    >>>> was "what does that mean"
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:42:22 +0100, "Karnev"
    >>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my connection
    >>>>>> keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?
     
    Brian H¹©, Oct 1, 2003
    #9
  10. me too. GO USA!!!!


    "Harrison" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I always top-post and I live in the US. I'm not usre that answers your
    > question, but it's the best I can do.
    >
    > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:48:44 +0100, "Brian H¹©" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Harrison said:
    > >
    > >> Thanks for pointing that out.
    > >>

    > >
    > >Is it international top-posters day today?
    > >
    > >> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:17:43 +0100, "Brian H¹©" <>
    > >> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> Harrison said:
    > >>>
    > >>>> PING allows you to test for basic connectivity to another computer or
    > >>>> network device. In theory, if you can PING something, then you are
    > >>>> connected to it. Pinging helps to eleiminate physical connectivity
    > >>>> issues and insures that traffic is being routed or relayed correctly.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> You can also use Ping to resolve an IP address.
    > >>>> For instance, if I wanted to know the IP address of abc.com....
    > >>>>
    > >>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Harrison>ping abc.com
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Pinging abc.com [199.181.135.201] with 32 bytes of data:
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    > >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=242
    > >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=242
    > >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Ping statistics for 199.181.135.201:
    > >>>> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    > >>>> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    > >>>> Minimum = 128ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 129ms
    > >>>>
    > >>>
    > >>> Saying what you can use it for isn't an answer to his first question,

    which
    > >>> was "what does that mean"
    > >>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:42:22 +0100, "Karnev"
    > >>>> <> wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>> to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my

    connection
    > >>>>> keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?

    > >
    > >

    >
     
    yellow submarine, Oct 1, 2003
    #10
  11. Karnev

    Boomer Guest

    yellow submarine wrote:

    > me too. GO USA!!!!


    dewman was with AOL?

    <AOL>
    Me too!
    <AOL/>

    ;o)



    >
    > "Harrison" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> I always top-post and I live in the US. I'm not usre that
    >> answers your question, but it's the best I can do.
    >>
    >> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:48:44 +0100, "Brian H¹©"
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Harrison said:
    >> >
    >> >> Thanks for pointing that out.
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> >Is it international top-posters day today?
    >> >
    >> >> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:17:43 +0100, "Brian H¹©"
    >> >> <> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>> Harrison said:
    >> >>>
    >> >>>> PING allows you to test for basic connectivity to another
    >> >>>> computer or network device. In theory, if you can PING
    >> >>>> something, then you are connected to it. Pinging helps to
    >> >>>> eleiminate physical connectivity issues and insures that
    >> >>>> traffic is being routed or relayed correctly.
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> You can also use Ping to resolve an IP address.
    >> >>>> For instance, if I wanted to know the IP address of
    >> >>>> abc.com....
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Harrison>ping abc.com
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> Pinging abc.com [199.181.135.201] with 32 bytes of data:
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >> >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=242
    >> >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=242
    >> >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> Ping statistics for 199.181.135.201:
    >> >>>> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    >> >>>> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    >> >>>> Minimum = 128ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 129ms
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Saying what you can use it for isn't an answer to his first
    >> >>> question,

    > which
    >> >>> was "what does that mean"
    >> >>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:42:22 +0100, "Karnev"
    >> >>>> <> wrote:
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>> to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if
    >> >>>>> my

    > connection
    >> >>>>> keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?
    >> >
    >> >

    >>

    >
    >
     
    Boomer, Oct 1, 2003
    #11
  12. yes
    "Boomer" <> wrote in message
    news:3f7b0f6e$0$12519$...
    > yellow submarine wrote:
    >
    > > me too. GO USA!!!!

    >
    > dewman was with AOL?
    >
    > <AOL>
    > Me too!
    > <AOL/>
    >
    > ;o)
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    > > "Harrison" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > >> I always top-post and I live in the US. I'm not usre that
    > >> answers your question, but it's the best I can do.
    > >>
    > >> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:48:44 +0100, "Brian H¹©"
    > >> <> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >Harrison said:
    > >> >
    > >> >> Thanks for pointing that out.
    > >> >>
    > >> >
    > >> >Is it international top-posters day today?
    > >> >
    > >> >> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:17:43 +0100, "Brian H¹©"
    > >> >> <> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >>> Harrison said:
    > >> >>>
    > >> >>>> PING allows you to test for basic connectivity to another
    > >> >>>> computer or network device. In theory, if you can PING
    > >> >>>> something, then you are connected to it. Pinging helps to
    > >> >>>> eleiminate physical connectivity issues and insures that
    > >> >>>> traffic is being routed or relayed correctly.
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> You can also use Ping to resolve an IP address.
    > >> >>>> For instance, if I wanted to know the IP address of
    > >> >>>> abc.com....
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Harrison>ping abc.com
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> Pinging abc.com [199.181.135.201] with 32 bytes of data:
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    > >> >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=242
    > >> >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=242
    > >> >>>> Reply from 199.181.135.201: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=242
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> Ping statistics for 199.181.135.201:
    > >> >>>> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    > >> >>>> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    > >> >>>> Minimum = 128ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 129ms
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>
    > >> >>> Saying what you can use it for isn't an answer to his first
    > >> >>> question,

    > > which
    > >> >>> was "what does that mean"
    > >> >>>
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:42:22 +0100, "Karnev"
    > >> >>>> <> wrote:
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>>> to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if
    > >> >>>>> my

    > > connection
    > >> >>>>> keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
     
    yellow submarine, Oct 1, 2003
    #12
  13. Karnev

    Boomer Guest

    yellow submarine wrote:

    > yes
    > "Boomer" <> wrote in message
    > news:3f7b0f6e$0$12519$...
    >> yellow submarine wrote:
    >>
    >> > me too. GO USA!!!!

    >>
    >> dewman was with AOL?


    [snip]

    I could tell.
     
    Boomer, Oct 1, 2003
    #13
  14. I "hate" you, Boomer

    Boomer wrote:
    > yellow submarine wrote:
    >
    >> yes
    >> "Boomer" <> wrote in message
    >> news:3f7b0f6e$0$12519$...
    >>> yellow submarine wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> me too. GO USA!!!!
    >>>
    >>> dewman was with AOL?

    >
    > [snip]
    >
    > I could tell.
     
    yellow submarine, Oct 1, 2003
    #14
  15. Karnev

    Boomer Guest

    yellow submarine wrote:

    > I "hate" you, Boomer


    {smooch}

    >
    > Boomer wrote:
    >> yellow submarine wrote:
    >>
    >>> yes
    >>> "Boomer" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:3f7b0f6e$0$12519$...
    >>>> yellow submarine wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> me too. GO USA!!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> dewman was with AOL?

    >>
    >> [snip]
    >>
    >> I could tell.

    >
    >
    >
     
    Boomer, Oct 1, 2003
    #15
  16. Karnev

    trout Guest

    Brian H¹© wrote:

    > Harrison said:
    >
    >> I always top-post and I live in the US. I'm not usre that answers
    >> your question, but it's the best I can do.

    >
    > What does living in the US have to do with anything?


    "Is it international top-posters day today?"
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    --
    "Oh, crap. Now I'm in another dumb thread."
     
    trout, Oct 1, 2003
    #16
  17. Karnev

    RickMerrill Guest

    Karnev wrote:

    > to Ping.....what does that mean and would it be useful if my connection
    > keeps going down. using xp and bl/y broadband?
    >
    >


    Oh, I thought you were talking about refers to smoke ...

    to ping or not to ping, what is the question ?
     
    RickMerrill, Oct 1, 2003
    #17
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