I.E. 7.0 on XP x64 - ctfmon.exe

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by Patrick, Aug 4, 2007.

  1. Patrick

    Patrick Guest

    How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.

    I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.

    On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"
    and restarted the browser.

    I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands
    "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"
    "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"

    I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs

    In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the
    keyboard service is installed.

    I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it
    comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry
    and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I kill
    the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.

    For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs - restart
    I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.

    ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception

    Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system. This
    would be greatly appreciated.
    Patrick, Aug 4, 2007
    #1
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  2. I think you will be well adviced to study this phenomenon carefully:


    http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/ctfmon/

    has info that might be valuable to you, and links to ways of testing what is
    going on. It is my opinion that there is more information there than what
    you can expect to harvest here.


    Tony. . .


    "Patrick" <> wrote in message
    news:%...
    > How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.
    >
    > I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.
    >
    > On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"
    > and restarted the browser.
    >
    > I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands
    > "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"
    > "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"
    >
    > I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs
    >
    > In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the
    > keyboard service is installed.
    >
    > I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it
    > comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry
    > and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I

    kill
    > the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.
    >
    > For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs - restart
    > I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.
    >
    > ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception
    >
    > Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system. This
    > would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    >
    Tony Sperling, Aug 5, 2007
    #2
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  3. Patrick

    Patrick Guest

    Tony;

    Thank you for the - thought...being that I have done everything else to
    stop it from loading it could have been infected with a virus.

    Uniblue's SpyEraser reports that my system is clean - not even a bad cookie.

    I use this machine only as a workstation. Video / Graphics editing, Flash,
    Web site building / editing.
    I do not cruse the internet. -
    I go only to sites work related Adobe, Microsoft, Nvidia, Asus.
    And to sites that I have built / uploading verification / maintenance etc.

    Consistently the problem is this:
    From a desktop shortcut - I open I.E.7 - it opens under the system process
    svchost.exe -
    ctfmon.exe opens as its child process.(verified by sysinternals process
    explorer)

    I close I.E.7. ctfmon.exe does not close but instead remains open and is
    moved down the
    tree as a user initiated process with no parent.
    I reopen I.E.7 - the home pages comes up - I click to open a new tab and
    I.E.7 locks up.
    I cannot move the window - I click home page - nothing happens - I go to
    favorites click
    a link - it comes up but I cannot close the new tab. I cannot close or
    minimize the browser.
    I cannot click back to the first tab.

    I kill ctfmon.exe and I.E.7 functions normally.

    This cannot be how Microsoft intended this to work.



    "Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I think you will be well adviced to study this phenomenon carefully:
    >
    >
    > http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/ctfmon/
    >
    > has info that might be valuable to you, and links to ways of testing what
    > is
    > going on. It is my opinion that there is more information there than what
    > you can expect to harvest here.
    >
    >
    > Tony. . .
    >
    >
    > "Patrick" <> wrote in message
    > news:%...
    >> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.
    >>
    >> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.
    >>
    >> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"
    >> and restarted the browser.
    >>
    >> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands
    >> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"
    >> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"
    >>
    >> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs
    >>
    >> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the
    >> keyboard service is installed.
    >>
    >> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it
    >> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry
    >> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I

    > kill
    >> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.
    >>
    >> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -
    >> restart
    >> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.
    >>
    >> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception
    >>
    >> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.
    >> This
    >> would be greatly appreciated.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    Patrick, Aug 5, 2007
    #3
  4. I have next to no experience from IE7 and it's typical errors, this doesn't
    sound very typical to me. Have you tried looking in your 'Event Viewer' for
    any messages concerning CTFMON or SVCHOST?

    I noticed how the site specifically recommended NOT to disable CTFMON - in
    your place, I would probably contact MS or search the KB for more
    information. Seeing that you have done some fairly deep digging on your own
    and know what is going on around your system and it's use, I think you
    should 'stick-to-it' - my suspicion is that this is an error that is
    triggered from somewhere else, not from where you first get to see it.

    Unless someone else have had the exact same thing, I don't think there are
    any short-cuts or incantations that can help you right away.

    If I was being stuck right there, I would probably try and un-install IE7,
    test my DotNet installation and Java/Flash and then re-install everything
    with frequent re-booting in-between steps.


    Tony. . .


    "Patrick" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Tony;
    >
    > Thank you for the - thought...being that I have done everything else to
    > stop it from loading it could have been infected with a virus.
    >
    > Uniblue's SpyEraser reports that my system is clean - not even a bad

    cookie.
    >
    > I use this machine only as a workstation. Video / Graphics editing, Flash,
    > Web site building / editing.
    > I do not cruse the internet. -
    > I go only to sites work related Adobe, Microsoft, Nvidia, Asus.
    > And to sites that I have built / uploading verification / maintenance etc.
    >
    > Consistently the problem is this:
    > From a desktop shortcut - I open I.E.7 - it opens under the system process
    > svchost.exe -
    > ctfmon.exe opens as its child process.(verified by sysinternals process
    > explorer)
    >
    > I close I.E.7. ctfmon.exe does not close but instead remains open and is
    > moved down the
    > tree as a user initiated process with no parent.
    > I reopen I.E.7 - the home pages comes up - I click to open a new tab and
    > I.E.7 locks up.
    > I cannot move the window - I click home page - nothing happens - I go to
    > favorites click
    > a link - it comes up but I cannot close the new tab. I cannot close or
    > minimize the browser.
    > I cannot click back to the first tab.
    >
    > I kill ctfmon.exe and I.E.7 functions normally.
    >
    > This cannot be how Microsoft intended this to work.
    >
    >
    >
    > "Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >I think you will be well adviced to study this phenomenon carefully:
    > >
    > >
    > > http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/ctfmon/
    > >
    > > has info that might be valuable to you, and links to ways of testing

    what
    > > is
    > > going on. It is my opinion that there is more information there than

    what
    > > you can expect to harvest here.
    > >
    > >
    > > Tony. . .
    > >
    > >
    > > "Patrick" <> wrote in message
    > > news:%...
    > >> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.
    > >>
    > >> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.
    > >>
    > >> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"
    > >> and restarted the browser.
    > >>
    > >> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands
    > >> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"
    > >> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"
    > >>
    > >> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office

    Programs
    > >>
    > >> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the
    > >> keyboard service is installed.
    > >>
    > >> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and

    it
    > >> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry
    > >> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I

    > > kill
    > >> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.
    > >>
    > >> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -
    > >> restart
    > >> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.
    > >>
    > >> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception
    > >>
    > >> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.
    > >> This
    > >> would be greatly appreciated.
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    Tony Sperling, Aug 5, 2007
    #4
  5. Patrick

    Theo Guest

    Microsoft has a FAQ on ctfmon.exe at:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599

    See if there is any useful information there.


    Patrick wrote:
    > How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.
    >
    > I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.
    >
    > On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"
    > and restarted the browser.
    >
    > I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands
    > "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"
    > "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"
    >
    > I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs
    >
    > In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the
    > keyboard service is installed.
    >
    > I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it
    > comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry
    > and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I kill
    > the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.
    >
    > For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs - restart
    > I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.
    >
    > ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception
    >
    > Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system. This
    > would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    >
    Theo, Aug 5, 2007
    #5
  6. Patrick

    Patrick Guest

    Internet Properties>Advanced>uncheck "Always use Clear Type for HTML*"

    I have determined this setting that fails to function when using I.E.7 32bit
    browser
    on XP x64.

    This setting does however stop I.E.7 64bit browser from loading ctfmon.exe.

    Now, how do I get M$ to fix it?




    "Theo" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Microsoft has a FAQ on ctfmon.exe at:
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
    >
    > See if there is any useful information there.
    >
    >
    > Patrick wrote:
    >> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.
    >>
    >> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.
    >>
    >> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"
    >> and restarted the browser.
    >>
    >> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands
    >> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"
    >> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"
    >>
    >> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs
    >>
    >> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the
    >> keyboard service is installed.
    >>
    >> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it
    >> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry
    >> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I
    >> kill
    >> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.
    >>
    >> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -
    >> restart
    >> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.
    >>
    >> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception
    >>
    >> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.
    >> This
    >> would be greatly appreciated.
    >>
    Patrick, Aug 6, 2007
    #6
  7. Patrick

    Theo Guest

    Are you the only one with this problem? If so, it may be
    something on your system causing the problem, such as a
    corrupted file. And I would not expect Microsoft to repair
    your system for you.

    I personally do not have any problem with either of my
    Internet Explorers 7 in Win x64.

    Are you indicting you stopped using ClearType for HTML?

    I have the box checked in my system and use ClearType for HTML.


    Patrick wrote:
    > Internet Properties>Advanced>uncheck "Always use Clear Type for HTML*"
    >
    > I have determined this setting that fails to function when using I.E.7 32bit
    > browser
    > on XP x64.
    >
    > This setting does however stop I.E.7 64bit browser from loading ctfmon.exe.
    >
    > Now, how do I get M$ to fix it?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "Theo" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Microsoft has a FAQ on ctfmon.exe at:
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
    >>
    >> See if there is any useful information there.
    >>
    >>
    >> Patrick wrote:
    >>> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.
    >>>
    >>> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.
    >>>
    >>> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"
    >>> and restarted the browser.
    >>>
    >>> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands
    >>> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"
    >>> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"
    >>>
    >>> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs
    >>>
    >>> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the
    >>> keyboard service is installed.
    >>>
    >>> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it
    >>> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry
    >>> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I
    >>> kill
    >>> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.
    >>>
    >>> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -
    >>> restart
    >>> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.
    >>>
    >>> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception
    >>>
    >>> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.
    >>> This
    >>> would be greatly appreciated.
    >>>

    >
    Theo, Aug 6, 2007
    #7
  8. Patrick

    Patrick Guest

    Correct - I have unchecked the box - I start 64bit I.E.7 and ctfmon.exe does
    not load
    as a child process.
    Then I start 32bit I.E.7 and it loads ctfmon.exe and with it come the issues
    when opening
    a new tab and trying to close it.

    It has also been my experience on XP x86 that from time to time ctfmon. has
    caused
    multiple issues for many many people - hence the KB articles written for
    people who
    have had issues and need to turn it off.

    And no - I am not using both browsers at the same time.

    It is apparent that 32bit I.E.7 on XP x64 ignores this setting to not use
    ClearType for HTML
    and when it loads, it automatically inserts itself into the registry - HKCU
    to run on startup
    with Windows.

    Please try un-checking the box - start 64bit I.E.7 and see if it loaded
    ctfmon. If not
    then start 32bit I.E.7 and see if it is loaded.

    I use "sysinternals" process explorer to view these actions.
    Sysinternals newly acquired by Microsoft 2006.
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx


    "Theo" <> wrote in message
    news:%23J%...
    > Are you the only one with this problem? If so, it may be something on
    > your system causing the problem, such as a corrupted file. And I would
    > not expect Microsoft to repair your system for you.
    >
    > I personally do not have any problem with either of my Internet Explorers
    > 7 in Win x64.
    >
    > Are you indicting you stopped using ClearType for HTML?
    >
    > I have the box checked in my system and use ClearType for HTML.
    >
    >
    > Patrick wrote:
    >> Internet Properties>Advanced>uncheck "Always use Clear Type for HTML*"
    >>
    >> I have determined this setting that fails to function when using I.E.7
    >> 32bit browser
    >> on XP x64.
    >>
    >> This setting does however stop I.E.7 64bit browser from loading
    >> ctfmon.exe.
    >>
    >> Now, how do I get M$ to fix it?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "Theo" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> Microsoft has a FAQ on ctfmon.exe at:
    >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
    >>>
    >>> See if there is any useful information there.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Patrick wrote:
    >>>> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.
    >>>>
    >>>> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.
    >>>>
    >>>> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"
    >>>> and restarted the browser.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands
    >>>> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"
    >>>> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"
    >>>>
    >>>> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office
    >>>> Programs
    >>>>
    >>>> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the
    >>>> keyboard service is installed.
    >>>>
    >>>> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and
    >>>> it
    >>>> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry
    >>>> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I
    >>>> kill
    >>>> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.
    >>>>
    >>>> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -
    >>>> restart
    >>>> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.
    >>>>
    >>>> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception
    >>>>
    >>>> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.
    >>>> This
    >>>> would be greatly appreciated.
    >>>>

    >>
    Patrick, Aug 6, 2007
    #8
  9. Patrick

    Theo Guest

    I don't know what causes ctfmon.exe to be started during
    boot, but it is running when Win x64 boots up. Both I.E.
    64-bit and I.E. 32-bit have the block checked to use
    ClearType for HTML. Neither I.E. cause any kind of problem
    with Win x64 and I can have both versions of I.E. running at
    the same time without any problems.

    I cannot remember of ever having a problem with ctfmon.exe
    in Win XP 32-bit either.

    I still think there is something specific to your system
    causing the problem.



    Patrick wrote:
    > Correct - I have unchecked the box - I start 64bit I.E.7 and ctfmon.exe does
    > not load
    > as a child process.
    > Then I start 32bit I.E.7 and it loads ctfmon.exe and with it come the issues
    > when opening
    > a new tab and trying to close it.
    >
    > It has also been my experience on XP x86 that from time to time ctfmon. has
    > caused
    > multiple issues for many many people - hence the KB articles written for
    > people who
    > have had issues and need to turn it off.
    >
    > And no - I am not using both browsers at the same time.
    >
    > It is apparent that 32bit I.E.7 on XP x64 ignores this setting to not use
    > ClearType for HTML
    > and when it loads, it automatically inserts itself into the registry - HKCU
    > to run on startup
    > with Windows.
    >
    > Please try un-checking the box - start 64bit I.E.7 and see if it loaded
    > ctfmon. If not
    > then start 32bit I.E.7 and see if it is loaded.
    >
    > I use "sysinternals" process explorer to view these actions.
    > Sysinternals newly acquired by Microsoft 2006.
    > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx
    >
    >
    > "Theo" <> wrote in message
    > news:%23J%...
    >> Are you the only one with this problem? If so, it may be something on
    >> your system causing the problem, such as a corrupted file. And I would
    >> not expect Microsoft to repair your system for you.
    >>
    >> I personally do not have any problem with either of my Internet Explorers
    >> 7 in Win x64.
    >>
    >> Are you indicting you stopped using ClearType for HTML?
    >>
    >> I have the box checked in my system and use ClearType for HTML.
    >>
    >>
    >> Patrick wrote:
    >>> Internet Properties>Advanced>uncheck "Always use Clear Type for HTML*"
    >>>
    >>> I have determined this setting that fails to function when using I.E.7
    >>> 32bit browser
    >>> on XP x64.
    >>>
    >>> This setting does however stop I.E.7 64bit browser from loading
    >>> ctfmon.exe.
    >>>
    >>> Now, how do I get M$ to fix it?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Theo" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> Microsoft has a FAQ on ctfmon.exe at:
    >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
    >>>>
    >>>> See if there is any useful information there.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Patrick wrote:
    >>>>> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"
    >>>>> and restarted the browser.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands
    >>>>> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"
    >>>>> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office
    >>>>> Programs
    >>>>>
    >>>>> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the
    >>>>> keyboard service is installed.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and
    >>>>> it
    >>>>> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry
    >>>>> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I
    >>>>> kill
    >>>>> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -
    >>>>> restart
    >>>>> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.
    >>>>> This
    >>>>> would be greatly appreciated.
    >>>>>

    >
    >
    Theo, Aug 6, 2007
    #9
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