How to change XP log-on?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by ~misfit~, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Hey gang,

    Since I installed SyncToy, which required me to install Dot.net framework,
    every time my PC's monitor switches off (Screen saver) or every time I
    re-boot I now have to click my user name to proceed. I didn't used to have
    to do this. How do I change it so I don't have to? It's annoying and wastes
    time if I turn my PC on, then walk away I come back to it only half-started.

    Once again, thanks. Software isn't my forté.
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jan 26, 2006
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  2. ~misfit~

    Malcolm Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:

    > Hey gang,
    >
    > Since I installed SyncToy, which required me to install Dot.net framework,
    > every time my PC's monitor switches off (Screen saver) or every time I
    > re-boot I now have to click my user name to proceed. I didn't used to have
    > to do this. How do I change it so I don't have to? It's annoying and
    > wastes time if I turn my PC on, then walk away I come back to it only
    > half-started.
    >
    > Once again, thanks. Software isn't my forté.

    Hi
    Start->run and type in control userpasswords2 <enter> then uncheck the
    'users blah blah blah'

    --
    Cheers
    Malcolm °¿°
    "The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is
    that it has never tried to contact us - Bill Watterson".
     
    Malcolm, Jan 26, 2006
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  3. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Malcolm wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >> Hey gang,
    >>
    >> Since I installed SyncToy, which required me to install Dot.net
    >> framework, every time my PC's monitor switches off (Screen saver) or
    >> every time I re-boot I now have to click my user name to proceed. I
    >> didn't used to have to do this. How do I change it so I don't have
    >> to? It's annoying and wastes time if I turn my PC on, then walk away
    >> I come back to it only half-started.
    >>
    >> Once again, thanks. Software isn't my fort.

    > Hi
    > Start->run and type in control userpasswords2 <enter> then uncheck the
    > 'users blah blah blah'


    Thanks Malcolm. Hopefully that's fixed it. I don't know why Windows insists
    on making changes I don't want.
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jan 27, 2006
    #3
  4. ~misfit~

    Malcolm Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:

    > Malcolm wrote:
    >> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hey gang,
    >>>
    >>> Since I installed SyncToy, which required me to install Dot.net
    >>> framework, every time my PC's monitor switches off (Screen saver) or
    >>> every time I re-boot I now have to click my user name to proceed. I
    >>> didn't used to have to do this. How do I change it so I don't have
    >>> to? It's annoying and wastes time if I turn my PC on, then walk away
    >>> I come back to it only half-started.
    >>>
    >>> Once again, thanks. Software isn't my fort.

    >> Hi
    >> Start->run and type in control userpasswords2 <enter> then uncheck the
    >> 'users blah blah blah'

    >
    > Thanks Malcolm. Hopefully that's fixed it. I don't know why Windows
    > insists on making changes I don't want.


    Hush and go stand in the corner young man! Bill knows best..... ;-)

    --
    Cheers
    Malcolm °¿°
    "The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is
    that it has never tried to contact us - Bill Watterson".
     
    Malcolm, Jan 27, 2006
    #4
  5. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Malcolm wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >> Malcolm wrote:
    >>> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hey gang,
    >>>>
    >>>> Since I installed SyncToy, which required me to install Dot.net
    >>>> framework, every time my PC's monitor switches off (Screen saver)
    >>>> or every time I re-boot I now have to click my user name to
    >>>> proceed. I didn't used to have to do this. How do I change it so I
    >>>> don't have to? It's annoying and wastes time if I turn my PC on,
    >>>> then walk away I come back to it only half-started.
    >>>>
    >>>> Once again, thanks. Software isn't my fort.
    >>> Hi
    >>> Start->run and type in control userpasswords2 <enter> then uncheck
    >>> the 'users blah blah blah'

    >>
    >> Thanks Malcolm. Hopefully that's fixed it. I don't know why Windows
    >> insists on making changes I don't want.

    >
    > Hush and go stand in the corner young man! Bill knows best..... ;-)


    Heh!

    Doing as you suggested created a problem for me though. The machine booted
    into windows for me without me having to click anything but as
    Administrator. This wouldn't bother me except I have everything the way I
    like it under my profile (which is in the group 'administators' anyway). I
    started changing the 'Administrator' settings etc. then realising how long
    it was going to take me, logged out and logged in under my user name.

    Is there a way I can make my user the default? I've put the setting back the
    way it was in the meantime.

    Cheers,
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jan 27, 2006
    #5
  6. ~misfit~

    Malcolm Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:

    > Malcolm wrote:
    >> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>
    >>> Malcolm wrote:
    >>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Hey gang,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Since I installed SyncToy, which required me to install Dot.net
    >>>>> framework, every time my PC's monitor switches off (Screen saver)
    >>>>> or every time I re-boot I now have to click my user name to
    >>>>> proceed. I didn't used to have to do this. How do I change it so I
    >>>>> don't have to? It's annoying and wastes time if I turn my PC on,
    >>>>> then walk away I come back to it only half-started.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Once again, thanks. Software isn't my fort.
    >>>> Hi
    >>>> Start->run and type in control userpasswords2 <enter> then uncheck
    >>>> the 'users blah blah blah'
    >>>
    >>> Thanks Malcolm. Hopefully that's fixed it. I don't know why Windows
    >>> insists on making changes I don't want.

    >>
    >> Hush and go stand in the corner young man! Bill knows best..... ;-)

    >
    > Heh!
    >
    > Doing as you suggested created a problem for me though. The machine booted
    > into windows for me without me having to click anything but as
    > Administrator. This wouldn't bother me except I have everything the way I
    > like it under my profile (which is in the group 'administators' anyway). I
    > started changing the 'Administrator' settings etc. then realising how long
    > it was going to take me, logged out and logged in under my user name.
    >
    > Is there a way I can make my user the default? I've put the setting back
    > the way it was in the meantime.
    >
    > Cheers,

    When you uncheck the box and hit apply it should ask the user name to login
    and password? Well it does for me...?

    --
    Cheers
    Malcolm °¿°
    "The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is
    that it has never tried to contact us - Bill Watterson".
     
    Malcolm, Jan 27, 2006
    #6
  7. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Malcolm wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >> Malcolm wrote:
    >>> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Malcolm wrote:
    >>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Hey gang,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Since I installed SyncToy, which required me to install Dot.net
    >>>>>> framework, every time my PC's monitor switches off (Screen saver)
    >>>>>> or every time I re-boot I now have to click my user name to
    >>>>>> proceed. I didn't used to have to do this. How do I change it so
    >>>>>> I don't have to? It's annoying and wastes time if I turn my PC
    >>>>>> on, then walk away I come back to it only half-started.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Once again, thanks. Software isn't my fort.
    >>>>> Hi
    >>>>> Start->run and type in control userpasswords2 <enter> then uncheck
    >>>>> the 'users blah blah blah'
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks Malcolm. Hopefully that's fixed it. I don't know why Windows
    >>>> insists on making changes I don't want.
    >>>
    >>> Hush and go stand in the corner young man! Bill knows best..... ;-)

    >>
    >> Heh!
    >>
    >> Doing as you suggested created a problem for me though. The machine
    >> booted into windows for me without me having to click anything but as
    >> Administrator. This wouldn't bother me except I have everything the
    >> way I like it under my profile (which is in the group
    >> 'administators' anyway). I started changing the 'Administrator'
    >> settings etc. then realising how long it was going to take me,
    >> logged out and logged in under my user name.
    >>
    >> Is there a way I can make my user the default? I've put the setting
    >> back the way it was in the meantime.
    >>
    >> Cheers,

    > When you uncheck the box and hit apply it should ask the user name to
    > login and password? Well it does for me...?


    Ahh, ok. I think it did that. (D'oh!) I'll try again.

    Cheers,
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jan 27, 2006
    #7
  8. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Malcolm wrote:
    >> When you uncheck the box and hit apply it should ask the user name to
    >> login and password? Well it does for me...?

    >
    > Ahh, ok. I think it did that. (D'oh!) I'll try again.


    Yeah, you da man! I just clicked out of it last time and it has
    'Administrator" as default, I left it. I've since done it properly, changed
    it to my user account. Why is this simple stuff hidden in command line mode?
    Surely that screen could have been included in Control Panel instead of
    having to type some obscure command into a box?

    And what's with the "ASP.NET machine account"? It's a password-protected
    account *I* didn't install. I thought this was my computer? Just when I find
    MS have done something right (SyncToy) I'm confronted with this
    high-handedness. <shakes head>

    As I don't know what that account is or does I'm gonna disable fast user
    switching. I'd delete the account but that would probably get me an
    un-bootable HDD. Might have to Google it.

    Cheers,
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jan 27, 2006
    #8
  9. ~misfit~

    Dave Taylor Guest

    "~misfit~" <> wrote in
    news::

    > Might have to Google it.


    It is a system account, google it...

    Interestingly, going from a user account to running things in a system
    account is one of the most common ways to hack a pc to elevate privilages.
    That wall between accounts is sometimes not as strong as one would like,
    heck, even the help in Symantec AV had a hole there...

    --
    Ciao, Dave
     
    Dave Taylor, Jan 27, 2006
    #9
  10. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Dave Taylor wrote:
    > "~misfit~" <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    >> Might have to Google it.

    >
    > It is a system account, google it...
    >
    > Interestingly, going from a user account to running things in a system
    > account is one of the most common ways to hack a pc to elevate
    > privilages. That wall between accounts is sometimes not as strong as
    > one would like, heck, even the help in Symantec AV had a hole there...


    Bloody MS. I'll check it out tomorrow, just about bed time now. I have a
    torrent just finished I want to watch (in the bedroom).

    Cheers,
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jan 27, 2006
    #10
  11. ~misfit~

    Steven H Guest

    Hello ~misfit~,

    your running the 1.1 framework right ???

    the aspnet user account is there for ..... you guesed it asp-net - dont worry
    your not running a server (you need IIS for that) but that user account Needed
    to be there in 1.1 (unsure about 1.0).

    ----------------
    Steven H

    the madGeek

    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >> Malcolm wrote:
    >>
    >>> When you uncheck the box and hit apply it should ask the user name
    >>> to login and password? Well it does for me...?
    >>>

    >> Ahh, ok. I think it did that. (D'oh!) I'll try again.
    >>

    > Yeah, you da man! I just clicked out of it last time and it has
    > 'Administrator" as default, I left it. I've since done it properly,
    > changed it to my user account. Why is this simple stuff hidden in
    > command line mode? Surely that screen could have been included in
    > Control Panel instead of having to type some obscure command into a
    > box?
    >
    > And what's with the "ASP.NET machine account"? It's a
    > password-protected account *I* didn't install. I thought this was my
    > computer? Just when I find MS have done something right (SyncToy) I'm
    > confronted with this high-handedness. <shakes head>
    >
    > As I don't know what that account is or does I'm gonna disable fast
    > user switching. I'd delete the account but that would probably get me
    > an un-bootable HDD. Might have to Google it.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
     
    Steven H, Jan 27, 2006
    #11
  12. ~misfit~

    Steven H Guest

    Hello Dave,

    > even the help in Symantec AV had a hole there...


    im not sure if it was Symantic but some dumb **** anti-viri vendor allowed
    one of their services to 'interact with the desktop' - what a dumb stupid
    thing to do .... urgh....

    as you said, the system account runs with diffrent (not alwayshigher) privilages
    than the account that you use (which is ment to be a USER account btw) so
    there is a chance for process escelation.

    > That wall between accounts is sometimes not as strong as
    > one would like


    it depends on what a program is trying to do, yes you can to a 'automated
    RunAs' to run in diffrent cradentials but you do NEED the password. And in
    Windows (along with every other multi user OS) there is no way to computationally
    obtain the password.

    as for process escelation, yep in years gone by that was shit easy to do,
    just inject into a process hook up a WM_TIMER event when that fires (in your
    code-space) your off doing whatever you like. but that got fixed (dammit)
    and now i dont think that specific hack is useable now (processes cant inject
    into each others space).

    can anybody renember blue screening 95, 98 with a single line of code - in
    vb ? now that was fun.

    ----------------
    Steven H

    the madGeek

    > "~misfit~" <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    >> Might have to Google it.
    >>

    > It is a system account, google it...
    >
    > Interestingly, going from a user account to running things in a system
    > account is one of the most common ways to hack a pc to elevate
    > privilages. That wall between accounts is sometimes not as strong as
    > one would like, heck, even the help in Symantec AV had a hole there...
    >
     
    Steven H, Jan 27, 2006
    #12
  13. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Steven H wrote:
    > Hello ~misfit~,


    Hey Steven,

    > your running the 1.1 framework right ???


    I believe so, yes.

    > the aspnet user account is there for ..... you guesed it asp-net -
    > dont worry your not running a server (you need IIS for that) but that
    > user account Needed to be there in 1.1 (unsure about 1.0).


    Ok, thanks. I'm not sure I like it but... I like SyncToy and I had to
    install dot.net framework to run it.

    Cheers,
    --
    ~misfit~

    > ----------------
    > Steven H
    >
    > the madGeek
    >
    >> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>
    >>> Malcolm wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> When you uncheck the box and hit apply it should ask the user name
    >>>> to login and password? Well it does for me...?
    >>>>
    >>> Ahh, ok. I think it did that. (D'oh!) I'll try again.
    >>>

    >> Yeah, you da man! I just clicked out of it last time and it has
    >> 'Administrator" as default, I left it. I've since done it properly,
    >> changed it to my user account. Why is this simple stuff hidden in
    >> command line mode? Surely that screen could have been included in
    >> Control Panel instead of having to type some obscure command into a
    >> box?
    >>
    >> And what's with the "ASP.NET machine account"? It's a
    >> password-protected account *I* didn't install. I thought this was my
    >> computer? Just when I find MS have done something right (SyncToy) I'm
    >> confronted with this high-handedness. <shakes head>
    >>
    >> As I don't know what that account is or does I'm gonna disable fast
    >> user switching. I'd delete the account but that would probably get me
    >> an un-bootable HDD. Might have to Google it.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
     
    ~misfit~, Jan 28, 2006
    #13
  14. ~misfit~

    Gordon Guest

    On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:09:31 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:

    > Thanks Malcolm. Hopefully that's fixed it. I don't know why Windows insists
    > on making changes I don't want.


    Oh come on misfit, It is because MS knows this is the way you should have
    your system. ;-)
     
    Gordon, Jan 28, 2006
    #14
  15. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Gordon wrote:
    > On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:09:31 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >> Thanks Malcolm. Hopefully that's fixed it. I don't know why Windows
    >> insists on making changes I don't want.

    >
    > Oh come on misfit, It is because MS knows this is the way you should
    > have your system. ;-)


    Heh, too true. That's why I like to change things around.
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jan 28, 2006
    #15
  16. ~misfit~

    Steven H Guest

    Hello ~misfit~,

    >> the aspnet user account is there for ..... you guesed it asp-net -
    >> dont worry your not running a server (you need IIS for that) but that
    >> user account Needed to be there in 1.1 (unsure about 1.0).
    >>

    > Ok, thanks. I'm not sure I like it but... I like SyncToy and I had to
    > install dot.net framework to run it.


    yea sync-toy is pretty cool, i use it all the time syncing my bookmarks inbetween
    my laptop and desktop machines.

    ----------------
    Steven H

    the madGeek

    > Steven H wrote:
    >
    >> Hello ~misfit~,
    >>

    > Hey Steven,
    >
    >> your running the 1.1 framework right ???
    >>

    > I believe so, yes.
    >
    >> the aspnet user account is there for ..... you guesed it asp-net -
    >> dont worry your not running a server (you need IIS for that) but that
    >> user account Needed to be there in 1.1 (unsure about 1.0).
    >>

    > Ok, thanks. I'm not sure I like it but... I like SyncToy and I had to
    > install dot.net framework to run it.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    >> ----------------
    >> Steven H
    >> the madGeek
    >>
    >>> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Malcolm wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> When you uncheck the box and hit apply it should ask the user name
    >>>>> to login and password? Well it does for me...?
    >>>>>
    >>>> Ahh, ok. I think it did that. (D'oh!) I'll try again.
    >>>>
    >>> Yeah, you da man! I just clicked out of it last time and it has
    >>> 'Administrator" as default, I left it. I've since done it properly,
    >>> changed it to my user account. Why is this simple stuff hidden in
    >>> command line mode? Surely that screen could have been included in
    >>> Control Panel instead of having to type some obscure command into a
    >>> box?
    >>>
    >>> And what's with the "ASP.NET machine account"? It's a
    >>> password-protected account *I* didn't install. I thought this was my
    >>> computer? Just when I find MS have done something right (SyncToy)
    >>> I'm confronted with this high-handedness. <shakes head>
    >>>
    >>> As I don't know what that account is or does I'm gonna disable fast
    >>> user switching. I'd delete the account but that would probably get
    >>> me an un-bootable HDD. Might have to Google it.
    >>>
    >>> Cheers,
    >>>
     
    Steven H, Jan 28, 2006
    #16
  17. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Steven H wrote:
    > Hello ~misfit~,
    >
    >>> the aspnet user account is there for ..... you guesed it asp-net -
    >>> dont worry your not running a server (you need IIS for that) but
    >>> that user account Needed to be there in 1.1 (unsure about 1.0).
    >>>

    >> Ok, thanks. I'm not sure I like it but... I like SyncToy and I had to
    >> install dot.net framework to run it.

    >
    > yea sync-toy is pretty cool, i use it all the time syncing my
    > bookmarks inbetween my laptop and desktop machines.


    Must admit, SyncToy is the best thing MS have done for ages. I haven't tried
    it syncing across the network yet, just to the USB drive, I'll try the
    network sometime.
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jan 28, 2006
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