How much difference between 70-315 & 70-316?

Discussion in 'MCSD' started by Paul, Jul 18, 2003.

  1. Paul

    Paul Guest

    Hello,

    I have passed the 70-315(Web-based application/C#) and started to prepare
    70-316(Window application/C#).

    Could anybody tell HOW MUCH difference and WHAT most difference between
    them?

    or, how much the same ...?

    Thanks a lot.
     
    Paul, Jul 18, 2003
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  2. Paul

    Guy Cox Guest

    State Management for starters
    Global.asax
    Vast differences in the Datagrid for the two environments.
    Construction of User and Custom Controls changes.
    Forms lifecycle is different.
    Security Principal -- who are you really running as under ASP.Net.
    HTML
    Application Configuration Settings.
    Debugging techniques for ASP.Net
    Server side vs Client execution
    Caching.

    But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#

    Guy


    "Paul" <> wrote in message
    news:21WRa.27003$...
    > Hello,
    >
    > I have passed the 70-315(Web-based application/C#) and started to prepare
    > 70-316(Window application/C#).
    >
    > Could anybody tell HOW MUCH difference and WHAT most difference between
    > them?
    >
    > or, how much the same ...?
    >
    > Thanks a lot.
    >
    >
     
    Guy Cox, Jul 18, 2003
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  3. Paul

    John S Guest

    > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#

    Now that's going to confuse people!!!

    "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    news:eA%...
    > State Management for starters
    > Global.asax
    > Vast differences in the Datagrid for the two environments.
    > Construction of User and Custom Controls changes.
    > Forms lifecycle is different.
    > Security Principal -- who are you really running as under ASP.Net.
    > HTML
    > Application Configuration Settings.
    > Debugging techniques for ASP.Net
    > Server side vs Client execution
    > Caching.
    >
    > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#
    >
    > Guy
    >
    >
    > "Paul" <> wrote in message
    > news:21WRa.27003$...
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > I have passed the 70-315(Web-based application/C#) and started to

    prepare
    > > 70-316(Window application/C#).
    > >
    > > Could anybody tell HOW MUCH difference and WHAT most difference between
    > > them?
    > >
    > > or, how much the same ...?
    > >
    > > Thanks a lot.
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    John S, Jul 19, 2003
    #3
  4. Paul

    Guy Cox Guest

    Well if they cannot figure out what the answer really is from my response
    they are never going to be able to pass 70-300.

    Guy

    "John S" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#

    >
    > Now that's going to confuse people!!!
    >
    > "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    > news:eA%...
    > > State Management for starters
    > > Global.asax
    > > Vast differences in the Datagrid for the two environments.
    > > Construction of User and Custom Controls changes.
    > > Forms lifecycle is different.
    > > Security Principal -- who are you really running as under ASP.Net.
    > > HTML
    > > Application Configuration Settings.
    > > Debugging techniques for ASP.Net
    > > Server side vs Client execution
    > > Caching.
    > >
    > > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#
    > >
    > > Guy
    > >
    > >
    > > "Paul" <> wrote in message
    > > news:21WRa.27003$...
    > > > Hello,
    > > >
    > > > I have passed the 70-315(Web-based application/C#) and started to

    > prepare
    > > > 70-316(Window application/C#).
    > > >
    > > > Could anybody tell HOW MUCH difference and WHAT most difference

    between
    > > > them?
    > > >
    > > > or, how much the same ...?
    > > >
    > > > Thanks a lot.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Guy Cox, Jul 19, 2003
    #4
  5. Paul

    John S Guest

    > Well if they cannot figure out what the answer really is from my response
    > they are never going to be able to pass 70-300.


    ..... Let alone learning to tie their own shoe laces.

    "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Well if they cannot figure out what the answer really is from my response
    > they are never going to be able to pass 70-300.
    >
    > Guy
    >
    > "John S" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#

    > >
    > > Now that's going to confuse people!!!
    > >
    > > "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    > > news:eA%...
    > > > State Management for starters
    > > > Global.asax
    > > > Vast differences in the Datagrid for the two environments.
    > > > Construction of User and Custom Controls changes.
    > > > Forms lifecycle is different.
    > > > Security Principal -- who are you really running as under ASP.Net.
    > > > HTML
    > > > Application Configuration Settings.
    > > > Debugging techniques for ASP.Net
    > > > Server side vs Client execution
    > > > Caching.
    > > >
    > > > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#
    > > >
    > > > Guy
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Paul" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:21WRa.27003$...
    > > > > Hello,
    > > > >
    > > > > I have passed the 70-315(Web-based application/C#) and started to

    > > prepare
    > > > > 70-316(Window application/C#).
    > > > >
    > > > > Could anybody tell HOW MUCH difference and WHAT most difference

    > between
    > > > > them?
    > > > >
    > > > > or, how much the same ...?
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks a lot.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    John S, Jul 19, 2003
    #5
  6. Paul

    Paul Guest

    Thanks Cox and John very much.
    If I passed 315 and turned to 316, any suggestion, please?

    Paul

    "John S" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > > Well if they cannot figure out what the answer really is from my

    response
    > > they are never going to be able to pass 70-300.

    >
    > .... Let alone learning to tie their own shoe laces.
    >
    > "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Well if they cannot figure out what the answer really is from my

    response
    > > they are never going to be able to pass 70-300.
    > >
    > > Guy
    > >
    > > "John S" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#
    > > >
    > > > Now that's going to confuse people!!!
    > > >
    > > > "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    > > > news:eA%...
    > > > > State Management for starters
    > > > > Global.asax
    > > > > Vast differences in the Datagrid for the two environments.
    > > > > Construction of User and Custom Controls changes.
    > > > > Forms lifecycle is different.
    > > > > Security Principal -- who are you really running as under ASP.Net.
    > > > > HTML
    > > > > Application Configuration Settings.
    > > > > Debugging techniques for ASP.Net
    > > > > Server side vs Client execution
    > > > > Caching.
    > > > >
    > > > > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#
    > > > >
    > > > > Guy
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Paul" <> wrote in message
    > > > > news:21WRa.27003$...
    > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I have passed the 70-315(Web-based application/C#) and started to
    > > > prepare
    > > > > > 70-316(Window application/C#).
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Could anybody tell HOW MUCH difference and WHAT most difference

    > > between
    > > > > > them?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > or, how much the same ...?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Thanks a lot.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Paul, Jul 19, 2003
    #6
  7. Paul

    Guy Cox Guest

    Personally if you've never done much web programming, I would switch the
    order and do 70-316 first..
    Then do 70-315, 70-320 -- the elective 70-229, etc. and top it all off with
    70-300.

    BTW you'll need an IIS box to do the 70-315 series of exercises. You'll
    also be constrained in learning the 70-320 material without IIS. Windows XP
    Home Edition will not support IIS.

    Guy



    "Paul" <> wrote in message
    news:Y3eSa.2919$...
    > Thanks Cox and John very much.
    > If I passed 315 and turned to 316, any suggestion, please?
    >
    > Paul
    >
    > "John S" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > > Well if they cannot figure out what the answer really is from my

    > response
    > > > they are never going to be able to pass 70-300.

    > >
    > > .... Let alone learning to tie their own shoe laces.
    > >
    > > "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > Well if they cannot figure out what the answer really is from my

    > response
    > > > they are never going to be able to pass 70-300.
    > > >
    > > > Guy
    > > >
    > > > "John S" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:...
    > > > > > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#
    > > > >
    > > > > Now that's going to confuse people!!!
    > > > >
    > > > > "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    > > > > news:eA%...
    > > > > > State Management for starters
    > > > > > Global.asax
    > > > > > Vast differences in the Datagrid for the two environments.
    > > > > > Construction of User and Custom Controls changes.
    > > > > > Forms lifecycle is different.
    > > > > > Security Principal -- who are you really running as under ASP.Net.
    > > > > > HTML
    > > > > > Application Configuration Settings.
    > > > > > Debugging techniques for ASP.Net
    > > > > > Server side vs Client execution
    > > > > > Caching.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Guy
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Paul" <> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:21WRa.27003$...
    > > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > I have passed the 70-315(Web-based application/C#) and started

    to
    > > > > prepare
    > > > > > > 70-316(Window application/C#).
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Could anybody tell HOW MUCH difference and WHAT most difference
    > > > between
    > > > > > > them?
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > or, how much the same ...?
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Thanks a lot.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Guy Cox, Jul 19, 2003
    #7
  8. Paul

    Guy Cox Guest

    The installer, ADO sections, Tracelistener, Delegates and Events all get
    repetative..... But the use of the controls is vastly different and the
    programming model are vastly different.

    Guy

    "Paul" <> wrote in message
    news:vWfSa.2263$...
    > Thanks for your reply.
    >
    > I have passed the 315, although I had nearly never worked on web
    > application. So I took much work on preparing 315. But I passed.
    >
    > Now I am reading the book of Microsoft MCAD/MCSD Self-paced Training Kit

    for
    > 306 and 316. while I read the content and the 1st and 2nd chapter, I felt
    > there are not much things new. So I ask that question and want to know if
    > the later chapters have the same features that I can take less time.
    >
    > Of cource, I hope it will easier than my preparing for 315. what is your
    > comments?
    >
    > "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Personally if you've never done much web programming, I would switch the
    > > order and do 70-316 first..
    > > Then do 70-315, 70-320 -- the elective 70-229, etc. and top it all off

    > with
    > > 70-300.
    > >
    > > BTW you'll need an IIS box to do the 70-315 series of exercises. You'll
    > > also be constrained in learning the 70-320 material without IIS. Windows

    > XP
    > > Home Edition will not support IIS.
    > >
    > > Guy
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Paul" <> wrote in message
    > > news:Y3eSa.2919$...
    > > > Thanks Cox and John very much.
    > > > If I passed 315 and turned to 316, any suggestion, please?
    > > >
    > > > Paul
    > > >
    > > > "John S" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:...
    > > > > > Well if they cannot figure out what the answer really is from my
    > > > response
    > > > > > they are never going to be able to pass 70-300.
    > > > >
    > > > > .... Let alone learning to tie their own shoe laces.
    > > > >
    > > > > "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    > > > > news:...
    > > > > > Well if they cannot figure out what the answer really is from my
    > > > response
    > > > > > they are never going to be able to pass 70-300.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Guy
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "John S" <> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:...
    > > > > > > > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Now that's going to confuse people!!!
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "Guy Cox" <gcoxjr-$nospam$> wrote in message
    > > > > > > news:eA%...
    > > > > > > > State Management for starters
    > > > > > > > Global.asax
    > > > > > > > Vast differences in the Datagrid for the two environments.
    > > > > > > > Construction of User and Custom Controls changes.
    > > > > > > > Forms lifecycle is different.
    > > > > > > > Security Principal -- who are you really running as under

    > ASP.Net.
    > > > > > > > HTML
    > > > > > > > Application Configuration Settings.
    > > > > > > > Debugging techniques for ASP.Net
    > > > > > > > Server side vs Client execution
    > > > > > > > Caching.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > But other than that they are the same :) -- they use C#
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Guy
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > "Paul" <> wrote in message
    > > > > > > >

    > news:21WRa.27003$...
    > > > > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > I have passed the 70-315(Web-based application/C#) and

    started
    > > to
    > > > > > > prepare
    > > > > > > > > 70-316(Window application/C#).
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Could anybody tell HOW MUCH difference and WHAT most

    > difference
    > > > > > between
    > > > > > > > > them?
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > or, how much the same ...?
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Guy Cox, Jul 19, 2003
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