High-tech jobs

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    Consultant Guest

    Consultant, Oct 28, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    billyw, Oct 28, 2003
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    Grog in Ohio Guest

    Orin Hatch = Republican... it figures. When is the American electorate
    going to learn that the Republican Party doesn't give a flying flip about
    anyone that has to get up and go to work everyday? The CEO is their
    concern, not Joe Working Slob.

    Grog


    "Consultant" <> wrote in message
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    > This should make us American high tech workers happy!
    >
    > http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13293386
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    > happy happy joy joy
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    Grog in Ohio, Oct 28, 2003
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    Rick Guest

    Neither party is above reproach on this one. While Clinton was in office the
    H1B visa limit was raised to 195,000 remember this is when the democrats
    controlled the house and senate.

    Rick
    Rick, Oct 28, 2003
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    Consultant Guest

    campaign contributions is the bottom line.
    increase profitability for the US company, larger campaign contributions and
    perks. nuff said.

    "Rick" <> wrote in message
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    > Neither party is above reproach on this one. While Clinton was in office

    the
    > H1B visa limit was raised to 195,000 remember this is when the democrats
    > controlled the house and senate.
    >
    > Rick
    >
    >
    Consultant, Oct 28, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    but your politico's aren't corrupt.. oh no... just rich


    "Consultant" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > campaign contributions is the bottom line.
    > increase profitability for the US company, larger campaign contributions

    and
    > perks. nuff said.
    >
    > "Rick" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Neither party is above reproach on this one. While Clinton was in office

    > the
    > > H1B visa limit was raised to 195,000 remember this is when the democrats
    > > controlled the house and senate.
    > >
    > > Rick
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    billyw, Oct 28, 2003
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    Consultant Guest

    right

    "billyw" <> wrote in message
    news:OHtwp#...
    > but your politico's aren't corrupt.. oh no... just rich
    >
    >
    > "Consultant" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > campaign contributions is the bottom line.
    > > increase profitability for the US company, larger campaign contributions

    > and
    > > perks. nuff said.
    > >
    > > "Rick" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > Neither party is above reproach on this one. While Clinton was in

    office
    > > the
    > > > H1B visa limit was raised to 195,000 remember this is when the

    democrats
    > > > controlled the house and senate.
    > > >
    > > > Rick
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    Consultant, Oct 28, 2003
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    Jtyc Guest

    > but your politico's aren't corrupt..

    You're loco esé.
    Jtyc, Oct 28, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    it was irony..

    oh sorry you guys left that somewhere in the mid atlantic

    "Jtyc" <> wrote in message
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    > > but your politico's aren't corrupt..

    >
    > You're loco esé.
    >
    >
    billyw, Oct 28, 2003
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    Jtyc Guest

    > it was irony..
    >
    > oh sorry you guys left that somewhere in the mid atlantic


    Oh. I thought you were just being facetious.
    Jtyc, Oct 28, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    huh .. you want fries with your facet??

    "Jtyc" <> wrote in message
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    > > it was irony..
    > >
    > > oh sorry you guys left that somewhere in the mid atlantic

    >
    > Oh. I thought you were just being facetious.
    >
    >
    >
    billyw, Oct 28, 2003
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    MikeF Guest

    Re: High-tech jobs : Threat to Internal Security

    why make waste a click - story is below.

    Here's the headline I'd like this under:

    HOMELAND SECURITY: IS ORRIN HATCH A PATRIOT OR TRAITOR?

    and a subhead, in case Carnivore is still prowling around:

    INTERNAL TERRORIST SECURITY THREAT

    heeere's the story:

    US likely to raise H-1B visa cap


    Monday, 27 October , 2003, 21:36

    Washington: Proposals to allow more high-technology foreign workers
    into the US are gaining ground in Congress despite assertions by
    labour and anti-immigrant lobbies that plenty of Americans are
    available to fill the jobs.
    Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Republican Senator Orin Hatch is
    pushing a plan to circumvent the 65,000 cap on H-1B temporary worker
    visas, under which large numbers of Indian and other foreign high-tech
    workers are employed in the US, by expanding exemptions, The Wall
    Street Journal reported on Monday quoting Senate aides familiar with
    the talks.

    The talks mark for the first time that influential Senators are
    pressing for a temporary increase in the limit. While it is unclear if
    the move would succeed, Hatch's effort paves the way for a full airing
    of visa-overhaul legislation that has already been introduced and will
    likely be considered after January, the paper said.
    The last-minute effort to modify the visa rules as the Congressional
    session winds down has been prompted by a growing concern among US
    multinationals and high-tech companies that the current cap will
    prevent thousands of expert foreign workers (needed by US business and
    industry) from entering the US next year.
    In addition, said the Journal, immigration lawyers, officials and
    technology trade groups from India, and major US tech companies are
    pushing to raise the annual visa limit to more than 100,000. Any rule
    changes likely would be attached to a "must pass" Appropriation Bill.
    "We will continue to work with our colleagues to try and find any
    appropriate legislative action. But we haven't announced anything yet"
    a spokeswoman for Hatch said.

    She said any plan would include some added protection for US workers,
    including reinstating a $1,000 fee for each visa that would be used to
    pay for retraining American workers -- a strategy aimed at gaining
    Democratic agreement.

    So far, an idea being pressed by Intel Corp, the giant computer
    chip-maker, is getting the most attention. Intel's plan recommends
    exempting foreign students with graduate technical degrees from the
    visa cap.

    end quote-

    I've sort of stopped buying AMD - think this is a good reason to go
    back to them. They are faster, and their chipsets do manage memory a
    bit better - for you basic, mildly hi-performance desktop.

    "Consultant" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > This should make us American high tech workers happy!
    >
    > http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13293386
    >
    > happy happy joy joy
    > --
    > Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
    > www.mcngp.tk
    >
    >
    MikeF, Oct 29, 2003
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    Jtyc Guest

    > huh .. you want fries with your facet??

    I don't have a facet. My ring is pure platinum.
    Jtyc, Oct 29, 2003
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    Consultant Guest

    Re: High-tech jobs : Threat to Internal Security

    lol, nice

    "MikeF" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > why make waste a click - story is below.
    >
    > Here's the headline I'd like this under:
    >
    > HOMELAND SECURITY: IS ORRIN HATCH A PATRIOT OR TRAITOR?
    >
    > and a subhead, in case Carnivore is still prowling around:
    >
    > INTERNAL TERRORIST SECURITY THREAT
    >
    > heeere's the story:
    >
    > US likely to raise H-1B visa cap
    >
    >
    > Monday, 27 October , 2003, 21:36
    >
    > Washington: Proposals to allow more high-technology foreign workers
    > into the US are gaining ground in Congress despite assertions by
    > labour and anti-immigrant lobbies that plenty of Americans are
    > available to fill the jobs.
    > Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Republican Senator Orin Hatch is
    > pushing a plan to circumvent the 65,000 cap on H-1B temporary worker
    > visas, under which large numbers of Indian and other foreign high-tech
    > workers are employed in the US, by expanding exemptions, The Wall
    > Street Journal reported on Monday quoting Senate aides familiar with
    > the talks.
    >
    > The talks mark for the first time that influential Senators are
    > pressing for a temporary increase in the limit. While it is unclear if
    > the move would succeed, Hatch's effort paves the way for a full airing
    > of visa-overhaul legislation that has already been introduced and will
    > likely be considered after January, the paper said.
    > The last-minute effort to modify the visa rules as the Congressional
    > session winds down has been prompted by a growing concern among US
    > multinationals and high-tech companies that the current cap will
    > prevent thousands of expert foreign workers (needed by US business and
    > industry) from entering the US next year.
    > In addition, said the Journal, immigration lawyers, officials and
    > technology trade groups from India, and major US tech companies are
    > pushing to raise the annual visa limit to more than 100,000. Any rule
    > changes likely would be attached to a "must pass" Appropriation Bill.
    > "We will continue to work with our colleagues to try and find any
    > appropriate legislative action. But we haven't announced anything yet"
    > a spokeswoman for Hatch said.
    >
    > She said any plan would include some added protection for US workers,
    > including reinstating a $1,000 fee for each visa that would be used to
    > pay for retraining American workers -- a strategy aimed at gaining
    > Democratic agreement.
    >
    > So far, an idea being pressed by Intel Corp, the giant computer
    > chip-maker, is getting the most attention. Intel's plan recommends
    > exempting foreign students with graduate technical degrees from the
    > visa cap.
    >
    > end quote-
    >
    > I've sort of stopped buying AMD - think this is a good reason to go
    > back to them. They are faster, and their chipsets do manage memory a
    > bit better - for you basic, mildly hi-performance desktop.
    >
    > "Consultant" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > This should make us American high tech workers happy!
    > >
    > > http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13293386
    > >
    > > happy happy joy joy
    > > --
    > > Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
    > > www.mcngp.tk
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    Consultant, Oct 29, 2003
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    Guest Guest

    The all to often bitter sentiments of someone who can't
    make it on their own and think the Governmant owes them
    something.

    >-----Original Message-----
    >Orin Hatch = Republican... it figures. When is the

    American electorate
    >going to learn that the Republican Party doesn't give a

    flying flip about
    >anyone that has to get up and go to work everyday? The

    CEO is their
    >concern, not Joe Working Slob.
    >
    >Grog
    >
    >
    >"Consultant" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> This should make us American high tech workers happy!
    >>
    >> http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?

    id=13293386
    >>
    >> happy happy joy joy
    >> --
    >> Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
    >> www.mcngp.tk
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >.
    >
    Guest, Oct 29, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    so you belive there should be no tariffs etc, total free trade and the
    market will ensure that everything will be ok?

    <> wrote in message
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    > The all to often bitter sentiments of someone who can't
    > make it on their own and think the Governmant owes them
    > something.
    >
    > >-----Original Message-----
    > >Orin Hatch = Republican... it figures. When is the

    > American electorate
    > >going to learn that the Republican Party doesn't give a

    > flying flip about
    > >anyone that has to get up and go to work everyday? The

    > CEO is their
    > >concern, not Joe Working Slob.
    > >
    > >Grog
    > >
    > >
    > >"Consultant" <> wrote in message
    > >news:...
    > >> This should make us American high tech workers happy!
    > >>
    > >> http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?

    > id=13293386
    > >>
    > >> happy happy joy joy
    > >> --
    > >> Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
    > >> www.mcngp.tk
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > >
    > >.
    > >
    billyw, Oct 30, 2003
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    Jtyc Guest

    > so you belive there should be no tariffs etc, total free trade and the
    > market will ensure that everything will be ok?


    Why should there be tariffs?
    Jtyc, Oct 30, 2003
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    Grog in Ohio Guest

    Wrong, anonymous moron... I'm fully employed and lovin' it. What I do think
    the government owes us all is to NOT encourage imported labor when
    unemployment is at a 25 year high. Interestingly, the last time we had
    sky-high unemployment and back breaking deficits there was another
    Republican was in the Whitehouse (Reagan). Coincidence? Yeah right...

    You can go back to listening to Rush Dimbulb now... no wait... he's still in
    drug rehab... or is he now "upthe river"?

    <> wrote in message
    news:069001c39e78$683dca90$...
    > The all to often bitter sentiments of someone who can't
    > make it on their own and think the Governmant owes them
    > something.
    >
    >
    Grog in Ohio, Oct 30, 2003
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    Jtyc Guest

    > unemployment is at a 25 year high. Interestingly, the last time we had
    > sky-high unemployment and back breaking deficits there was another
    > Republican was in the Whitehouse (Reagan). Coincidence? Yeah right...
    >
    > You can go back to listening to Rush Dimbulb now... no wait... he's still

    in
    > drug rehab... or is he now "upthe river"?


    I don't think you understand economics.

    US Unemployment Rate

    1980 7.1%
    1981 7.6%

    1982 9.7%

    1983 9.6%

    1984 7.5%

    1985 7.2%

    1986 7.0%

    1987 6.2%

    1988 5.5%

    1989 5.3%

    1990 5.6%

    1991 6.8%

    1992 7.5%

    1993 6.9%

    1994 6.1%

    1995 5.6%

    1996 5.4%

    1997 4.9%

    1998 4.5%

    1999 4.2%

    2000 4.0%

    2001 4.7%

    2002 5.8%
    Jtyc, Oct 30, 2003
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