Hard-drive, master-slave issue

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  1. Piedmont

    Piedmont Guest

    I have a PC (A), with Win98SE, that I have been using. I have a second PC
    (B), with Win-ME, that I never use. (No you can't have it! grin) I have
    taken the hard dirve out of B and placed it in A. I have made it (B) the
    master and HD-A is now the slave.

    I have started up the pc and the new master (B ME) fires up good. Only
    problem is there are photos and music that I want to utilize on the A
    drive-slave, but I cannot see anything other than what is on the B
    drive-master.

    I have checked the bios and it appears that all IDE's are set for Auto.

    I would like to delet win98 from slave and use me only, I don't want to lose
    info on slave either, such as outlook address's, photos and music!

    Help! I don't understand this master slave thing too well!

    Piedmont
     
    Piedmont, Oct 27, 2004
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    mark mandel Guest

    "Piedmont" <> wrote in message
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    > I have a PC (A), with Win98SE, that I have been using. I have a second PC
    > (B), with Win-ME, that I never use. (No you can't have it! grin) I have
    > taken the hard dirve out of B and placed it in A. I have made it (B) the
    > master and HD-A is now the slave.
    >
    > I have started up the pc and the new master (B ME) fires up good. Only
    > problem is there are photos and music that I want to utilize on the A
    > drive-slave, but I cannot see anything other than what is on the B
    > drive-master.
    >
    > I have checked the bios and it appears that all IDE's are set for Auto.
    >
    > I would like to delet win98 from slave and use me only, I don't want to

    lose
    > info on slave either, such as outlook address's, photos and music!
    >
    > Help! I don't understand this master slave thing too well!
    >
    > Piedmont
    >
    >

    If you go into the Device Manager, are there any yellow exclamation or
    question marks next to the IDE controller?
     
    mark mandel, Oct 27, 2004
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    Thor Guest

    "Piedmont" <> wrote in message
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    >I have a PC (A), with Win98SE, that I have been using. I have a second PC
    > (B), with Win-ME, that I never use. (No you can't have it! grin) I have
    > taken the hard dirve out of B and placed it in A. I have made it (B) the
    > master and HD-A is now the slave.


    >
    > I have started up the pc and the new master (B ME) fires up good. Only
    > problem is there are photos and music that I want to utilize on the A
    > drive-slave, but I cannot see anything other than what is on the B
    > drive-master.


    Depending on the brand of the master drive, there may be a distinction in
    the jumper settings as to whether it is a "master" or "master with slave
    present". Check and set accordingly. Make sure both drives are listed in the
    POST screen at bootup. Could also be a controller issue since you pulled a
    drive from another hardware configuration and installed it in a different
    PC. The hardware device enumeration may not have gone very smooth, and you
    may have some conflicts causing the trouble. Another thing you could try is
    setting the Win98 drive back as master, and set the WinMe drive as slave,
    and see if it works that way, and then transfer off the photos and such to
    the WinME drive. Then worry about trying to get them to work together in the
    reverse configuration. You could try setting both drives to "cable select"
    mode, and then connect the WinME drive to the end of the cable (master
    position) and the Win98 drive to the middle connector on the cable (slave
    position), and let it detect things that way. This also assumes you have an
    80 conductor IDE cable that is fully compliant, supporting cable select
    mode. You could also try putting the WInME drive on the secondary IDE
    channel along with the CD drive. Set the WinME drive as master, and the CD
    drive as slave. You may need some 5.25-3.5" drive adapter rails to mount the
    harddrive up next to the CD drive, if the cable won't reach.
     
    Thor, Oct 27, 2004
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    Piedmont Guest

    "mark mandel" <> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Piedmont" <> wrote in message
    > news:clp20c$askb$...
    >snip
    > >
    > > Help! I don't understand this master slave thing too well!
    > >
    > > Piedmont
    > >
    > >

    > If you go into the Device Manager, are there any yellow exclamation or
    > question marks next to the IDE controller?
    >
    >

    No, I went to HD Controller heading and opened it up, inside was,

    Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE controller

    Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)

    Secondary IDE controller (fifo)

    ALSo, under Other Devices
    yellow ? at PCI Multimedia Device (This is a driver needs installed or
    something, system asks about it when I start up)

    and ALso, under System,
    yellow ! at Programmable interrupt controller
     
    Piedmont, Oct 27, 2004
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  5. Piedmont

    Piedmont Guest

    "Thor" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Piedmont" <> wrote in message
    > news:clp20c$askb$...
    > >I have a PC (A), with Win98SE, that I have been using. I have a second PC
    > > (B), with Win-ME, that I never use. (No you can't have it! grin) I have
    > > taken the hard dirve out of B and placed it in A. I have made it (B) the
    > > master and HD-A is now the slave.

    >
    > >
    > > I have started up the pc and the new master (B ME) fires up good. Only
    > > problem is there are photos and music that I want to utilize on the A
    > > drive-slave, but I cannot see anything other than what is on the B
    > > drive-master.

    >
    > Depending on the brand of the master drive, there may be a distinction in
    > the jumper settings as to whether it is a "master" or "master with slave
    > present". Check and set accordingly. Make sure both drives are listed in

    the

    They both had labels showing m-s- etc... I will recheck.

    > POST screen at bootup. Could also be a controller issue since you pulled a


    I will check this.

    > drive from another hardware configuration and installed it in a different
    > PC. The hardware device enumeration may not have gone very smooth, and you
    > may have some conflicts causing the trouble. Another thing you could try

    is
    > setting the Win98 drive back as master, and set the WinMe drive as slave,
    > and see if it works that way, and then transfer off the photos and such to
    > the WinME drive. Then worry about trying to get them to work together in

    the
    > reverse configuration. You could try setting both drives to "cable select"
    > mode, and then connect the WinME drive to the end of the cable (master
    > position) and the Win98 drive to the middle connector on the cable (slave
    > position), and let it detect things that way. This also assumes you have

    an
    > 80 conductor IDE cable that is fully compliant, supporting cable select
    > mode. You could also try putting the WInME drive on the secondary IDE
    > channel along with the CD drive. Set the WinME drive as master, and the CD
    > drive as slave. You may need some 5.25-3.5" drive adapter rails to mount

    the
    > harddrive up next to the CD drive, if the cable won't reach.
    >
    >
     
    Piedmont, Oct 27, 2004
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    Piedmont Guest

    "Thor" <> wrote in message
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    snip
    > present". Check and set accordingly. Make sure both drives are >listed in

    the POST screen at bootup.
    snip
    Yes, I did this as you suggested, all 4 IDE'd show up, the 2 HD and the dvd
    and r/rw.

    Piedmont
     
    Piedmont, Oct 27, 2004
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    Robert Baer Guest

    Piedmont wrote:
    >
    > I have a PC (A), with Win98SE, that I have been using. I have a second PC
    > (B), with Win-ME, that I never use. (No you can't have it! grin) I have
    > taken the hard dirve out of B and placed it in A. I have made it (B) the
    > master and HD-A is now the slave.
    >
    > I have started up the pc and the new master (B ME) fires up good. Only
    > problem is there are photos and music that I want to utilize on the A
    > drive-slave, but I cannot see anything other than what is on the B
    > drive-master.
    >
    > I have checked the bios and it appears that all IDE's are set for Auto.
    >
    > I would like to delet win98 from slave and use me only, I don't want to lose
    > info on slave either, such as outlook address's, photos and music!
    >
    > Help! I don't understand this master slave thing too well!
    >
    > Piedmont


    Was drive "A" set up as a "compressed" drive (worthless, useless POS)?
    Those yellow markers are due to the fact that the hardware is
    different between the 2 machines.
    You will need the motherboard driver/support CD to install the (new to
    the HD) drivers.
    Failing that CD, you should be able to download the drivers from the
    board maker's site.
     
    Robert Baer, Oct 28, 2004
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