Gmail account defective?

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by coyotemotors@gmail.com, Dec 28, 2006.

  1. Guest

    My wife just opened a Gmail account.
    she can send me mail through it but
    when I reply I get a Maildeamon thing reply,
    how the f...k is that possible!
    Anybody know how to fix this crap?

    John
    , Dec 28, 2006
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  2. Evan Platt Guest

    On 27 Dec 2006 18:57:58 -0800, wrote:

    >My wife just opened a Gmail account.
    >she can send me mail through it but
    >when I reply I get a Maildeamon thing reply,
    >how the f...k is that possible!
    >Anybody know how to fix this crap?


    Well, the wording of the "maildeamon thing" would help, and perhaps
    provide a clue.
    Evan Platt, Dec 28, 2006
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  3. Mike Easter Guest

    wrote:
    > My wife just opened a Gmail account.
    > she can send me mail through it but
    > when I reply I get a Maildeamon thing reply,
    > how the f...k is that possible!
    > Anybody know how to fix this crap?


    When you are trying to troubleshoot a mail related problem which
    involves a 'maildaemon thing reply' -- that maildaemon delivery status
    notification DSN failed information is very useful and not to be
    /described/ as a 'maildaemon thing reply' but copied and pasted into the
    group where you are asking the help.

    If needed you can munge certain information such as an email address if
    you consider that to be private.

    You haven't described which mail services are being used in what ways.
    Maybe we will be able to figure it out with the DSN.


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    Mike Easter
    Mike Easter, Dec 28, 2006
    #3
  4. Guest

    date Dec 27, 2006 7:32 PM
    subject Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

    This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

    Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:



    ----- Original message -----

    Received: by 10.78.204.1 with SMTP id b1mr242021hug.1167273135845;
    Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:32:15 -0800 (PST)
    Received: by 10.78.81.10 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:32:15 -0800
    (PST)
    Message-ID:
    <>
    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:32:15 -0700
    From: <>
    To: <>
    Subject: test
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Content-Disposition: inline

    -------------------------
    ---------------
    Any of this help?
    Hope none of it is sensitive stuff
    I shouldn't be posting here!
    John
    =============================

    Mike Easter wrote:
    > wrote:
    > > My wife just opened a Gmail account.
    > > she can send me mail through it but
    > > when I reply I get a Maildeamon thing reply,
    > > how the f...k is that possible!
    > > Anybody know how to fix this crap?

    >
    > When you are trying to troubleshoot a mail related problem which
    > involves a 'maildaemon thing reply' -- that maildaemon delivery status
    > notification DSN failed information is very useful and not to be
    > /described/ as a 'maildaemon thing reply' but copied and pasted into the
    > group where you are asking the help.
    >
    > If needed you can munge certain information such as an email address if
    > you consider that to be private.
    >
    > You haven't described which mail services are being used in what ways.
    > Maybe we will be able to figure it out with the DSN.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mike Easter
    , Dec 28, 2006
    #4
  5. Guest

    wrote:

    >date Dec 27, 2006 7:32 PM
    > subject Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >
    >This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
    >
    >Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    >
    >


    Yep it's blocked for some reason.

    Mail Delivery Subsystem <> to me
    show details 9:13 pm (0 minutes ago)
    This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

    Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:



    ----- Original message -----

    Received: by 10.90.118.12 with SMTP id q12mr11690872agc.1167282783855;
    Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:13:03 -0800 (PST)
    Received: by 10.90.115.20 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:13:03 -0800
    (PST)
    Message-ID:
    <>
    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:13:03 -0800
    From: "Penny Wise" <>
    To:
    Subject: test

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  6. Mike Easter Guest

    wrote:
    > date Dec 27, 2006 7:32 PM
    > subject Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >
    > This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
    >
    > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    >
    >


    There's no such mailbox as the above at gmail.

    There is a mailbox for the username coyotemotors but there is no mailbox
    for the username lsblot

    You have the address wrong somehow. Gmail allows one to test an
    address, whereas some mailservers act like they will accept anything.
    Gmail sez 'no such user' when it is a bad/nonexistent addy.

    Here's me testing yours and a bogus one. Yours is OK. The bogus isn't.
    <I've snipped some lines to abbreviate the transactions>

    220 mx.google.com ESMTP 45si30043970wri
    RCPT TO:<>
    250 2.1.5 OK
    RCPT TO:<>
    550 5.1.1 No such user 45si30043970wri

    Here's me testing the bad address which you think is your wife's.

    220 mx.google.com ESMTP e19si20078761qba
    RCPT TO:<>
    550 5.1.1 No such user e19si20078761qba

    > Any of this help?
    > Hope none of it is sensitive stuff
    > I shouldn't be posting here!


    The worst thing you've posted here you can't do anything about because
    you are using googlegroups. It isn't what is exposed in the news
    message body which is the problem for exposing addresses. It is what is
    exposed in the news message From.

    There is a lot of harvesting from the From. There is very very little
    harvesting from the exposure in the message body.


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    Mike Easter, Dec 28, 2006
    #6
  7. Guest

    How can my wife's mailbox not exist,
    she has an open account with gmail
    and uses it to send messages...
    TO WHICH I CANNOT ANSWER (and probably
    no one else either)
    no matter if I hit reply or type in her address!.

    Do you guys work for Google?

    If so can you go in there and fix the problem?
    If not what should she do?

    John
    ========================
    ===================



    Mike Easter wrote:
    > wrote:
    > > date Dec 27, 2006 7:32 PM
    > > subject Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    > >
    > > This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
    > >
    > > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    > >
    > >

    >
    > There's no such mailbox as the above at gmail.
    >
    > There is a mailbox for the username coyotemotors but there is no mailbox
    > for the username lsblot
    >
    > You have the address wrong somehow. Gmail allows one to test an
    > address, whereas some mailservers act like they will accept anything.
    > Gmail sez 'no such user' when it is a bad/nonexistent addy.
    >
    > Here's me testing yours and a bogus one. Yours is OK. The bogus isn't.
    > <I've snipped some lines to abbreviate the transactions>
    >
    > 220 mx.google.com ESMTP 45si30043970wri
    > RCPT TO:<>
    > 250 2.1.5 OK
    > RCPT TO:<>
    > 550 5.1.1 No such user 45si30043970wri
    >
    > Here's me testing the bad address which you think is your wife's.
    >
    > 220 mx.google.com ESMTP e19si20078761qba
    > RCPT TO:<>
    > 550 5.1.1 No such user e19si20078761qba
    >
    > > Any of this help?
    > > Hope none of it is sensitive stuff
    > > I shouldn't be posting here!

    >
    > The worst thing you've posted here you can't do anything about because
    > you are using googlegroups. It isn't what is exposed in the news
    > message body which is the problem for exposing addresses. It is what is
    > exposed in the news message From.
    >
    > There is a lot of harvesting from the From. There is very very little
    > harvesting from the exposure in the message body.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mike Easter
    , Dec 28, 2006
    #7
  8. Guest

    , Dec 28, 2006
    #8
  9. Evan Platt wrote:
    > On 27 Dec 2006 18:57:58 -0800, wrote:
    >
    >>My wife just opened a Gmail account.
    >>she can send me mail through it but
    >>when I reply I get a Maildeamon thing reply,
    >>how the f...k is that possible!
    >>Anybody know how to fix this crap?

    >
    > Well, the wording of the "maildeamon thing" would help, and perhaps
    > provide a clue.


    Perhaps another Google Grouper? :)

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    Blinky the Shark, Dec 28, 2006
    #9
  10. Guest

    I removed what I could, some of you guys
    scare me with stuff I don't understand.
    I read "Hacked" and I wish I had never
    posted....I see this is not a safe place
    and can't get help.....Mabe Gmail is not
    a safe system.
    ===================
    ====================
    wrote:
    > How can my wife's mailbox not exist,
    > she has an open account with gmail
    > and uses it to send messages...
    > TO WHICH I CANNOT ANSWER (and probably
    > no one else either)
    > no matter if I hit reply or type in her address!.
    >
    > Do you guys work for Google?
    >
    > If so can you go in there and fix the problem?
    > If not what should she do?
    >
    > John
    > ========================
    > ===================
    >
    >
    >
    > Mike Easter wrote:
    > > wrote:
    > > > date Dec 27, 2006 7:32 PM
    > > > subject Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    > > >
    > > > This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
    > > >
    > > > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > There's no such mailbox as the above at gmail.
    > >
    > > There is a mailbox for the username coyotemotors but there is no mailbox
    > > for the username lsblot
    > >
    > > You have the address wrong somehow. Gmail allows one to test an
    > > address, whereas some mailservers act like they will accept anything.
    > > Gmail sez 'no such user' when it is a bad/nonexistent addy.
    > >
    > > Here's me testing yours and a bogus one. Yours is OK. The bogus isn't.
    > > <I've snipped some lines to abbreviate the transactions>
    > >
    > > 220 mx.google.com ESMTP 45si30043970wri
    > > RCPT TO:<>
    > > 250 2.1.5 OK
    > > RCPT TO:<>
    > > 550 5.1.1 No such user 45si30043970wri
    > >
    > > Here's me testing the bad address which you think is your wife's.
    > >
    > > 220 mx.google.com ESMTP e19si20078761qba
    > > RCPT TO:<>
    > > 550 5.1.1 No such user e19si20078761qba
    > >
    > > > Any of this help?
    > > > Hope none of it is sensitive stuff
    > > > I shouldn't be posting here!

    > >
    > > The worst thing you've posted here you can't do anything about because
    > > you are using googlegroups. It isn't what is exposed in the news
    > > message body which is the problem for exposing addresses. It is what is
    > > exposed in the news message From.
    > >
    > > There is a lot of harvesting from the From. There is very very little
    > > harvesting from the exposure in the message body.
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Mike Easter
    , Dec 28, 2006
    #10
  11. Guest

    wrote:

    >I removed what I could, some of you guys
    >scare me with stuff I don't understand.
    >I read "Hacked" and I wish I had never
    >posted....I see this is not a safe place
    >and can't get help.....Mabe Gmail is not
    >a safe system.


    Ahh don't worry about it Phoenix, Arizona is a long way for most.

    This isn't Gmail, this isn't Google; this is a one of many world wide
    newsgroups, this group just happens to be first on the list - Google
    just archives the text based groups.

    >===================
    >====================
    > wrote:
    >> How can my wife's mailbox not exist,
    >> she has an open account with gmail
    >> and uses it to send messages...
    >> TO WHICH I CANNOT ANSWER (and probably
    >> no one else either)
    >> no matter if I hit reply or type in her address!.
    >>
    >> Do you guys work for Google?
    >>
    >> If so can you go in there and fix the problem?
    >> If not what should she do?
    >>
    >> John
    >> ========================
    >> ===================
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Mike Easter wrote:
    >> > wrote:
    >> > > date Dec 27, 2006 7:32 PM
    >> > > subject Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >> > >
    >> > > This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
    >> > >
    >> > > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> >
    >> > There's no such mailbox as the above at gmail.
    >> >
    >> > There is a mailbox for the username coyotemotors but there is no mailbox
    >> > for the username lsblot
    >> >
    >> > You have the address wrong somehow. Gmail allows one to test an
    >> > address, whereas some mailservers act like they will accept anything.
    >> > Gmail sez 'no such user' when it is a bad/nonexistent addy.
    >> >
    >> > Here's me testing yours and a bogus one. Yours is OK. The bogus isn't.
    >> > <I've snipped some lines to abbreviate the transactions>
    >> >
    >> > 220 mx.google.com ESMTP 45si30043970wri
    >> > RCPT TO:<>
    >> > 250 2.1.5 OK
    >> > RCPT TO:<>
    >> > 550 5.1.1 No such user 45si30043970wri
    >> >
    >> > Here's me testing the bad address which you think is your wife's.
    >> >
    >> > 220 mx.google.com ESMTP e19si20078761qba
    >> > RCPT TO:<>
    >> > 550 5.1.1 No such user e19si20078761qba
    >> >
    >> > > Any of this help?
    >> > > Hope none of it is sensitive stuff
    >> > > I shouldn't be posting here!
    >> >
    >> > The worst thing you've posted here you can't do anything about because
    >> > you are using googlegroups. It isn't what is exposed in the news
    >> > message body which is the problem for exposing addresses. It is what is
    >> > exposed in the news message From.
    >> >
    >> > There is a lot of harvesting from the From. There is very very little
    >> > harvesting from the exposure in the message body.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > --
    >> > Mike Easter


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    , Dec 28, 2006
    #11
  12. Guest

    , Dec 28, 2006
    #12
  13. Mike Easter Guest

    wrote:
    > How can my wife's mailbox not exist,
    > she has an open account with gmail
    > and uses it to send messages...


    Corresponding with a top poster is awkward because of the lack of
    context, but I'll bother anyway. I don't feel like reconstructing a
    dialog for us.

    A gmail account allows the person to 'change' the From address from the
    default or normal or 'appropriate' address to some other, arbitrary
    address. It can be a gmail address or it can be some other mail
    provider's mailbox. See
    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=22370 How do I use
    a different 'From:' address to send mail?

    If your wife made such a configuration of her account in the Settings at
    gmail, she could have created a bad or non-existent gmail username. She
    could do that accidentally or on purpose.

    The link above recommends that the person using that gmail feature send
    a verification mail to make sure that they haven't made a bad choice.

    > TO WHICH I CANNOT ANSWER (and probably
    > no one else either)
    > no matter if I hit reply or type in her address!.


    There is definitely a difference in the likelihood of address error in
    replying than typing in, but I'm only guessing at a possible cause of
    the address you have being a bad address. What you gave us was typed in
    here. It also had an 'L' in the username. Actually an L in two
    different places. If you read it wrong and it was supposed to be a '1'
    [one] instead of an L, then that might explain a problem in the result
    of my testing.

    But, I tested for 1sblot and for lsb1ot and for 1sb1ot and none of those
    are valid addresses.

    > Do you guys work for Google?


    No.

    > If so can you go in there and fix the problem?
    > If not what should she do?


    If she has not made any change in the From setting, which she could fix
    herself, she should contact the 'gmail team'

    https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=8153&topic=1536
    How can I contact the Gmail Team? - To contact the Gmail Team, visit
    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py, and fill out a feedback
    form. We love to hear from users, so let us know what's on your mind.


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    Mike Easter, Dec 28, 2006
    #13
  14. Mike Easter Guest

    wrote:
    > I removed what I could, some of you guys
    > scare me with stuff I don't understand.


    There isn't anything wrong with what you posted. Whenever you post
    anything via googlegroups, your message is propagated or distributed to
    newsservers and newsagents all over the world. The headers of your
    message contain the valid email address which you used to log into your
    googlegroups account, which is also your gmail account.

    Because of that wide distribution, there is plenty of opportunity for
    spam address harvesters to use techniques to harvest your address which
    is found in the From. That harvesting is a process which leads to the
    address getting more spam. However, gmail has a pretty good spam
    filter, so the result of the exposure isn't felt so badly.

    > I read "Hacked" and I wish I had never
    > posted....I see this is not a safe place


    The internet isn't exactly a safe place. You are supposed to defend
    yourself when you walk around on busy streets and sidewalks which are
    full of all kinds of potential threats.

    > and can't get help.....Mabe Gmail is not
    > a safe system.


    Gmail is one thing. Googlegroups is another. You are using a gmail
    account to access googlegroups. Accessing googlegroups shows things
    about you in your headers; a good or working email address and the IP
    address of your connectivity.

    Some people don't like that kind of exposure and other things which are
    wrong with using googlegroups to correspond on usenet. That's why I
    don't use the googlegroups system you are using to post here.


    --
    Mike Easter
    Mike Easter, Dec 28, 2006
    #14
  15. Mike Easter Guest

    wrote:
    > My wife just opened a Gmail account.


    I'm considering some elements to your puzzle.

    By what mechanism did her new gmail account become opened? For example,
    did you email her at another different provider address an invite from
    /your/ gmail account, or did someone else mail her an invite, or did she
    'enlist' by way of a mobile phone telno?

    If you emailed her an invite, then that process would result in your
    getting a notification from the gmail admin system [Gmail Team] that she
    had successfully created a gmail account and what its address was. That
    notification would be a separate process from any mail she might send
    from her new account. If you don't have any such notification as a
    consequence of a successful new account from your invite, there's
    something amiss.

    If she acquired her account some other way, thru' an invite from someone
    else or with a mobile telno, then you wouldn't get the Gmail Team email
    with her new addy.



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    Mike Easter
    Mike Easter, Dec 28, 2006
    #15
  16. Plato Guest

    wrote:
    >
    > My wife just opened a Gmail account.
    > she can send me mail through it but
    > when I reply I get a Maildeamon thing reply,
    > how the f...k is that possible!
    > Anybody know how to fix this crap?


    Request a refund if you dont like the service.

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    Plato, Dec 30, 2006
    #16
  17. Barry OGrady Guest

    On 27 Dec 2006 18:57:58 -0800, wrote:

    >My wife just opened a Gmail account.
    >she can send me mail through it but
    >when I reply I get a Maildeamon thing reply,
    >how the f...k is that possible!
    >Anybody know how to fix this crap?


    have you tried typing the address?

    >John


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    Barry OGrady, Jan 3, 2007
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