Freeview Terrestrial band changes

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Brian Mathews, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. Seems like the government stuff up again, listed changes for May have
    not been implemented..
    Brian Mathews, Jun 4, 2011
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  2. Brian  Mathews

    Richard Guest

    On 4/06/2011 6:55 p.m., Brian Mathews wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > Seems like the government stuff up again, listed changes for May have
    > not been implemented..


    Ah well, no big deal really, just need to do a rescan when it happens.

    I would rather see them scrap this bizzare idea of 2 freqs in use
    everywhere, meaning that mobile recievers need constant rescanning
    instead of allowing seamless reception as driving around.
    Richard, Jun 4, 2011
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  3. Brian  Mathews

    Boots Guest

    On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 19:07:50 +1200, Richard wrote:

    > I would rather see them scrap this bizzare idea of 2 freqs in use
    > everywhere, meaning that mobile recievers need constant rescanning
    > instead of allowing seamless reception as driving around.


    Care to explain how you would have two transmitters on the same frequency
    in the same region?

    You DO, of course, know why you need to have more than one transmitter in
    a hilly built-up area?


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    "Filtering the Internet is like trying to boil the ocean"
    Boots, Jun 4, 2011
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  4. Brian  Mathews

    Boots Guest

    On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 18:55:02 +1200, Brian Mathews wrote:

    > Seems like the government stuff up again, listed changes for May have
    > not been implemented..


    Are you sure that this is something done by the National Party?


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    Boots, Jun 4, 2011
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  5. Brian  Mathews

    Richard Guest

    On 4/06/2011 11:18 p.m., Boots wrote:
    > On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 19:07:50 +1200, Richard wrote:
    >
    >> I would rather see them scrap this bizzare idea of 2 freqs in use
    >> everywhere, meaning that mobile recievers need constant rescanning
    >> instead of allowing seamless reception as driving around.

    >
    > Care to explain how you would have two transmitters on the same frequency
    > in the same region?
    >
    > You DO, of course, know why you need to have more than one transmitter in
    > a hilly built-up area?



    total synchronization of them allows for a single frequency network on
    digital.

    google dvb sfn for more stuff.
    Richard, Jun 4, 2011
    #5
  6. Brian  Mathews

    Boots Guest

    On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 00:16:39 +1200, Richard wrote:

    > total synchronization of them allows for a single frequency network on
    > digital.


    How would you account for phase changes as signals bounce around hills
    and buildings?


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    "Filtering the Internet is like trying to boil the ocean"
    Boots, Jun 4, 2011
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  7. Brian  Mathews

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs Brian Mathews wrote:
    > Seems like the government stuff up again, listed changes for May have
    > not been implemented..


    Is this you again Woger? I have about 100 instances of your nyms in my
    killfile (which I export and then import into new machines over the
    years[*]). I swear I have a 'Brian Mattews' entry for you but you may have
    changed some of it as this got through.

    [*] I swear that, partly because of your massive contribution to my
    krillfile I need computers quite a bit more powerful than I normally would
    to deal with the overhead. *You* are directly responsible for part of my
    expenses, both fixed cost for plant and ongoing cost in the form of
    electrical consumption. Bastard!

    (Apologies if this isn't Roger Shepard.)
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
    ~misfit~, Jun 5, 2011
    #7
  8. On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:19:06 +0000 (UTC), Boots
    <> wrote:

    >On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 18:55:02 +1200, Brian Mathews wrote:
    >
    >> Seems like the government stuff up again, listed changes for May have
    >> not been implemented..

    >
    >Are you sure that this is something done by the National Party?



    The Documents I have does list GOVT..
    Frank Williams, Jun 5, 2011
    #8
  9. Brian  Mathews

    Richard Guest

    On 5/06/2011 10:42 a.m., Boots wrote:
    > On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 00:16:39 +1200, Richard wrote:
    >
    >> total synchronization of them allows for a single frequency network on
    >> digital.

    >
    > How would you account for phase changes as signals bounce around hills
    > and buildings?


    Same way that it deals with that when its on a different freq - the
    guard intervil is there.

    No difference between a syncronized transmission and a reflection, the
    DVB-T standard deals with both very well. Not like that ATSC piece of
    crap that cant deal with what would be a moderate ghost on analog.
    Richard, Jun 5, 2011
    #9
  10. Re: Freeview Terrestrial Band Changes

    In message <isfcqc$4jf$>, Richard wrote:

    >> How would you account for phase changes as signals bounce around hills
    >> and buildings?

    >
    > Same way that it deals with that when its on a different freq - the
    > guard intervil is there.


    I don’t think you need a guard band with digital transmissions. Consider
    that Wi-Fi works fine with heavily-overlapping channels (negative guard
    band, if you like).
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Jun 5, 2011
    #10
  11. Brian  Mathews

    Boots Guest

    On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:45:02 +1200, Frank Williams wrote:

    > On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:19:06 +0000 (UTC), Boots
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 18:55:02 +1200, Brian Mathews wrote:
    >>
    >>> Seems like the government stuff up again, listed changes for May have
    >>> not been implemented..

    >>
    >>Are you sure that this is something done by the National Party?

    >
    > The Documents I have does list GOVT.


    Woger, please define what you mean by "GOVT".


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    "Filtering the Internet is like trying to boil the ocean"
    Boots, Jun 5, 2011
    #11
  12. Brian  Mathews

    Boots Guest

    On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 19:55:56 +1200, Richard wrote:

    >> How would you account for phase changes as signals bounce around hills
    >> and buildings?

    >
    > Same way that it deals with that when its on a different freq - the
    > guard intervil is there.


    I see. I don't see why two separate frequencies shouldn't be used.


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    "Filtering the Internet is like trying to boil the ocean"
    Boots, Jun 5, 2011
    #12
  13. On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:56:17 +1200, Kiwi <> wrote:

    >On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:18:13 +1200, "~misfit~"
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>Is this you again Woger? I have about 100 instances of your nyms in my
    >>killfile (which I export and then import into new machines over the
    >>years[*]). I swear I have a 'Brian Mattews' entry for you but you may have
    >>changed some of it as this got through.
    >>
    >>[*] I swear that, partly because of your massive contribution to my
    >>krillfile I need computers quite a bit more powerful than I normally would
    >>to deal with the overhead. *You* are directly responsible for part of my
    >>expenses, both fixed cost for plant and ongoing cost in the form of
    >>electrical consumption. Bastard!
    >>
    >>(Apologies if this isn't Roger Shepard.)

    >
    >I'm sure you are correct Shaun. I think the original "Brian Mathews"
    >nym was spelt Matthews.
    >
    >I can remember seeing posts from Roger under his own name back in the
    >early 1990s when I had a Unix shell account and used TIN as a
    >newsreader, long before the Web was around.
    >
    >PS: They haven't improved in quality.
    >
    >Cheers, Kiwi




    This chap cant help it, pretty sick as far as I can see, he has been
    banded from posting via Actrix and has a large number of complaints
    posted here.

    I just do not believe any thing this Unqualified person posts.
    Frank Williams, Jun 6, 2011
    #13
  14. Brian  Mathews

    Donchano Guest

    On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:22:16 +1200, Frank Williams
    <> shouted from the highest rooftop:

    >On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:56:17 +1200, Kiwi <> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:18:13 +1200, "~misfit~"
    >><> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Is this you again Woger? I have about 100 instances of your nyms in my
    >>>killfile (which I export and then import into new machines over the
    >>>years[*]). I swear I have a 'Brian Mattews' entry for you but you may have
    >>>changed some of it as this got through.
    >>>
    >>>[*] I swear that, partly because of your massive contribution to my
    >>>krillfile I need computers quite a bit more powerful than I normally would
    >>>to deal with the overhead. *You* are directly responsible for part of my
    >>>expenses, both fixed cost for plant and ongoing cost in the form of
    >>>electrical consumption. Bastard!
    >>>
    >>>(Apologies if this isn't Roger Shepard.)

    >>
    >>I'm sure you are correct Shaun. I think the original "Brian Mathews"
    >>nym was spelt Matthews.
    >>
    >>I can remember seeing posts from Roger under his own name back in the
    >>early 1990s when I had a Unix shell account and used TIN as a
    >>newsreader, long before the Web was around.
    >>
    >>PS: They haven't improved in quality.
    >>
    >>Cheers, Kiwi

    >
    >
    >
    >This chap cant help it, pretty sick as far as I can see, he has been
    >banded from posting via Actrix and has a large number of complaints
    >posted here.
    >
    >I just do not believe any thing this Unqualified person posts.


    Speaking of "sick," Brian Mathews is just another Roger Shepard
    sockpuppet. So is Brian Williams and Dean Mathews. Woger talks to
    himself a lot.
    Donchano, Jun 6, 2011
    #14
  15. Brian  Mathews

    Boots Guest

    On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:22:16 +1200, Frank Williams wrote:

    > has been banded from posting


    "banded"?


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    "Filtering the Internet is like trying to boil the ocean"
    Boots, Jun 6, 2011
    #15
  16. On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 01:38:33 +0000 (UTC), Boots
    <> wrote:

    >On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:22:16 +1200, Frank Williams wrote:
    >
    >> has been banded from posting

    >
    >"banded"?




    Sorry for that brain not into gear, should read banned
    Frank Williams, Jun 6, 2011
    #16
  17. On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:56:02 +1200, Kiwi <> wrote:

    >On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:22:16 +1200, Frank Williams
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>This chap cant help it, pretty sick as far as I can see, he has been
    >>banded from posting via Actrix and has a large number of complaints
    >>posted here.
    >>
    >>I just do not believe any thing this Unqualified person posts.

    >
    >
    >How can I be banned from posting via ACtrix, when I have never had an
    >account with them?
    >
    >Do try and keep up Roger
    >
    >Cheers, Kiwi




    I did not refer to you but the other poster as that Article I do not
    have..
    Frank Williams, Jun 6, 2011
    #17
  18. Brian  Mathews

    Richard Guest

    On 5/06/2011 10:18 p.m., Boots wrote:
    > On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 19:55:56 +1200, Richard wrote:
    >
    >>> How would you account for phase changes as signals bounce around hills
    >>> and buildings?

    >>
    >> Same way that it deals with that when its on a different freq - the
    >> guard intervil is there.

    >
    > I see. I don't see why two separate frequencies shouldn't be used.


    Try moving daily between areas served by different freqs and see how you
    then feel about it.
    Richard, Jun 7, 2011
    #18
  19. Re: Freeview terrestrial band changes

    In message <isjmv8$4vj$>, Richard wrote:

    > Try moving daily between areas served by different freqs and see how you
    > then feel about it.


    I just press a different button.
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Jun 7, 2011
    #19
  20. I see the Idiots here are posting off Topic it has nothing at all to do
    with Cell phones


    I rang Kordia the Gov has put in on Hold..???
    Frank Williams, Jun 7, 2011
    #20
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