Freedom Air expects payment for online tickets into an Australian bank account

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Gordon, Oct 6, 2006.

  1. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:14:33 +1300, Jerry wrote:

    > Rasputinnz666 wrote:
    >> Hi all

    >
    >
    > What does this have to do with computers?


    Dah, hint Internet Banking
     
    Gordon, Oct 6, 2006
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  2. Hi all

    I haven't been on for awhile but this should amuse and confuse many.

    I booked online a ticket from Brisbane to Dunedin for my son.

    I don't use credit cards so I was pleased to see that Freedom now offer
    internet banking as a payment option.

    Sounds great aye?

    There's a twist. In my case the fare was quoted in Australian dollars -
    perhaps because it was a one way ticket originating in Australia. Ok that's
    not good as it makes the fare look cheaper than it really is. But they
    INSIST on me making my internet banking payment into an Australian bank
    account!!

    After several exchanges of emails they finally said the following which I
    have clipped and pasted:

    06/10/2006 04:27 PM
    Hello,

    Maybe the below will be clear....

    All fares displayed on our website are quoted in the currency of the
    country in which the flight originates and will be charged in this currency
    when a booking is confirmed.

    Example One: If you are in New Zealand and would like to book and pay
    for a flight originating from Australia, the booking will be charged in
    Australian Dollars.

    Example Two: If you are in Australia and would like to book and pay
    for a flight or booking originating from New Zealand the booking will be
    charged in New Zealand Dollars.

    From the above examples if you do not have a bank account in the
    currency of booking, credit card is the only form of payment.


    I don't know the legalities of this but Tui should be doing an ad about it.

    Ras
     
    Rasputinnz666, Oct 6, 2006
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  3. Gordon

    Jerry Guest

    Re: Freedom Air expects payment for online tickets into an Australianbank account

    Rasputinnz666 wrote:
    > Hi all



    What does this have to do with computers?
     
    Jerry, Oct 6, 2006
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  4. Gordon

    Dave Taylor Guest

    "Rasputinnz666" <> wrote in
    news:eg4luv$vk0$:

    > There's a twist. In my case the fare was quoted in Australian dollars
    > - perhaps because it was a one way ticket originating in Australia. Ok
    > that's not good as it makes the fare look cheaper than it really is.
    > But they INSIST on me making my internet banking payment into an
    > Australian bank account!!


    Their summary you posted doesn't look like a T & C Document.

    I generally look into the T & C of items. There is an interesting story
    about the legalese from a computer support comapany that was pretty sure no
    one ever read them; they paid the first person to report the clause that
    said something like "If you found this, just email us and we will pay your
    $1000.00"


    --
    Ciao, Dave
     
    Dave Taylor, Oct 6, 2006
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  5. Gordon

    Jerry Guest

    Re: Freedom Air expects payment for online tickets into an Australianbank account

    Gordon wrote:
    > On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:14:33 +1300, Jerry wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Rasputinnz666 wrote:
    >>
    >>>Hi all

    >>
    >>
    >>What does this have to do with computers?

    >
    >
    > Dah, hint Internet Banking


    OK, that stretches :)
     
    Jerry, Oct 6, 2006
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  6. In message <eg4luv$vk0$>, Rasputinnz666 wrote:

    > I don't know the legalities of this but Tui should be doing an ad about
    > it.


    Yeah, right.
     
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Oct 6, 2006
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  7. Gordon

    peterwn Guest

    Rasputinnz666 wrote:
    > Hi all
    >
    > I haven't been on for awhile but this should amuse and confuse many.
    >
    > I booked online a ticket from Brisbane to Dunedin for my son.
    >
    > I don't use credit cards so I was pleased to see that Freedom now offer
    > internet banking as a payment option.
    >

    Presumably Freedom does not think there is sufficient demand to set up
    the extra system to process a fare expressed in AUD via a NZ account.

    There was an interesting situation with air fares 26 years ago. IATA
    had a schedule of exchange rates which remained reasonably constant -
    without the volatility of bank exchange rates. For example the AKL -
    LAX fare expressed in NZD would be equivalent to the LAX - AKL fare
    expressed USD based on these rates. Fares are (as indicated by the OP)
    calculated in the currency of the country of original departure for
    single and return flights, and in most cases you pay directly in local
    currency in the country of departure. But if you book in one country
    with departure in another country, the fare is calculated in the
    currency of the country of departure and converted to local currency at
    bank rates.

    Now in late 1979 early 1980, the GBP was very strong and the USD
    extremely weak, ut IATA did not adjust its exchange rates. It was so
    extreme that if you bought a return Heathrow - New Your flight on BA,
    when you arrived at NY you could cash in the return leg of the ticket
    and have enough USD in your hands to buy a single Concorde ticket back
    to Heathrow (you paid a very hefty premium for Concorde). I copped a
    similar experience when I bought a LAX - AKL ticket in the UK (I flew
    Laker to New York where you could only book on the day of departure and
    took Greyhound across USA) and wondered why it was so cheap. It then
    dawned on me that I had a similar deal.
     
    peterwn, Oct 7, 2006
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  8. Gordon

    Philip Guest

    Re: Freedom Air expects payment for online tickets into an Australianbank account

    peterwn wrote:
    > Rasputinnz666 wrote:
    >> Hi all
    >>
    >> I haven't been on for awhile but this should amuse and confuse many.
    >>
    >> I booked online a ticket from Brisbane to Dunedin for my son.
    >>
    >> I don't use credit cards so I was pleased to see that Freedom now offer
    >> internet banking as a payment option.
    >>

    > Presumably Freedom does not think there is sufficient demand to set up
    > the extra system to process a fare expressed in AUD via a NZ account.
    >
    > There was an interesting situation with air fares 26 years ago. IATA
    > had a schedule of exchange rates which remained reasonably constant -
    > without the volatility of bank exchange rates. For example the AKL -
    > LAX fare expressed in NZD would be equivalent to the LAX - AKL fare
    > expressed USD based on these rates. Fares are (as indicated by the OP)
    > calculated in the currency of the country of original departure for
    > single and return flights, and in most cases you pay directly in local
    > currency in the country of departure. But if you book in one country
    > with departure in another country, the fare is calculated in the
    > currency of the country of departure and converted to local currency at
    > bank rates.
    >
    > Now in late 1979 early 1980, the GBP was very strong and the USD
    > extremely weak, ut IATA did not adjust its exchange rates. It was so
    > extreme that if you bought a return Heathrow - New Your flight on BA,
    > when you arrived at NY you could cash in the return leg of the ticket
    > and have enough USD in your hands to buy a single Concorde ticket back
    > to Heathrow (you paid a very hefty premium for Concorde). I copped a
    > similar experience when I bought a LAX - AKL ticket in the UK (I flew
    > Laker to New York where you could only book on the day of departure and
    > took Greyhound across USA) and wondered why it was so cheap. It then
    > dawned on me that I had a similar deal.
    >

    BA particuklarly was notorious for differential charging according to
    where it thought you were, and they tried to enforce their
    passenger-gouging rules by only acceptiong credit cards issued in the
    coun try you were booking from.

    This sort of airline behavior was instrumental in the growth of RyanAir,
    Air Berlin, EasyJet and others.

    I'm glad I never have to deal with BA again...


    Philip
     
    Philip, Oct 7, 2006
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