Format problem

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by 83LowRider, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. 83LowRider

    83LowRider Guest

    I was given a computer (minus hard drive) from
    a relative. It was my intent to make it usable and
    give to a friend with no money/computer. As the
    only use would be to play a few simple games,
    play mp3s or maybe some avi files I would send him
    (he's not interested in internet) this AMD 950Mhz
    seemed ideal. (it had a 256 stick of pc133 ram too)

    Put a 200gb WD drive in it, insert XP cd ---
    Get to the point of accepting agreement, hit F8.
    (usually get this far, not always)
    Sometimes get further, during one try I even got
    about half way thru the install.

    At some point the screen blanks, and the blue screen
    error message appears -- PAGE FAULT IN NON PAGED
    AREA. Googling this gave various info, but usually ram
    related. Reseated it, no luck, traded it out with another
    piece of pc133 256mb. Switched slots (two slots) also.

    I've got a copy of the install cd.. tried the other copy.
    Same thing.

    Found an antique hard drive (7gb) from no telling where.
    Switched out the hdd to the 7gb, and turned computer
    on. It actually booted into win 95. It was missing a bunch
    of drivers, found some, but eventually booted up and
    mostly functioned. (didn't try internet). Set bios to boot
    from cd, tried xp cd again and same thing/message.

    The only thing to add is that one of those blue screens
    gave the added info at bottom of screen ---
    TECH INFORMATION
    STOP: 0x00000050
    PARTMGR.SYS - address
    F97B2B3D base at F97B0000

    Any thoughts or help would be greatly appreciated.
     
    83LowRider, Oct 31, 2010
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    Peter Foldes Guest

    83LowRider

    See the following for possible fixes for the STOP: 0x00000050 Error

    http://aumha.org/a/stop.php#0x50
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    Peter Foldes, Oct 31, 2010
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  3. 83LowRider

    Aardvark Guest

    On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:41:52 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

    > I did have a similar problem to you once. I discovered (eventually!)
    > that it was due to a duff stick of RAM.


    Yup. Page fault-----> duff memory.

    No eventually about it.

    To the OP- run memtest.



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    -Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'
     
    Aardvark, Oct 31, 2010
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  4. 83LowRider

    Meat Plow Guest

    On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 04:03:12 -0400, 83LowRider wrote:

    > PAGE FAULT IN NON PAGED
    > AREA. Googling this gave various info, but usually ram related.


    Google Memtest 86.



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    Meat Plow, Oct 31, 2010
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  5. 83LowRider

    83LowRider Guest

    VanguardLH wrote:

    > You were going to give your "friend" an illegal copy of Windows? You
    > actually bought another legal copy of Windows to give to your
    > "friend"?


    It was actually my intention for it to leave here with
    a corp copy of Win 2000 due to the small amout
    of memory involved and the minimal use/need of the
    computer. I suppose we could wait for Obama to
    give the ol' guy a computer, but I'm a firm believer
    that charity should begin and end at home. Since
    we're obviously making assumptions about others,
    why do you hate poor old people?
     
    83LowRider, Oct 31, 2010
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  6. 83LowRider

    83LowRider Guest

    Meat Plow wrote:
    > On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 04:03:12 -0400, 83LowRider wrote:
    >
    >> PAGE FAULT IN NON PAGED
    >> AREA. Googling this gave various info, but usually ram related.

    >
    > Google Memtest 86.


    I've used memtest in the far past, downloaded the
    current version. Out'a curiousity, I put both sticks
    in an old PIII and it only recognized one of the sticks.
    Odd tho, that in the AMD I tried a single stick (both)
    in both slots.. I'll burn the mem disc and see what it
    says tonight. Thanks to all those who responded.
    Always appreciated.
     
    83LowRider, Oct 31, 2010
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  7. 83LowRider

    83LowRider Guest

    Barry OGrady wrote:

    >> Any thoughts or help would be greatly appreciated.

    >
    > I have had blue screens caused by a faulty power supply.


    I've had the same happen, but when it booted into Win95
    it remained up and running for quite some time. Without
    proof, I assumed that would have ruled out the power
    supply. If memtest shows a good stick of ram, the ps will
    be the next switch after the Titans game. :)
    Thanks.
     
    83LowRider, Oct 31, 2010
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  8. 83LowRider

    VanguardLH Guest

    83LowRider wrote:

    > VanguardLH wrote:
    >
    >> You were going to give your "friend" an illegal copy of Windows? You
    >> actually bought another legal copy of Windows to give to your
    >> "friend"?

    >
    > It was actually my intention for it to leave here with a corp copy of
    > Win 2000 due to the small amout of memory involved and the minimal
    > use/need of the computer.


    "Corporate" licenses are volume licenses. They are not to get sliced up
    to pass instances of the volume license to entities outside the
    organization to which the volume license was originally distributed.
    Folks on eBay trying to slice up volume licenses have discovered their
    "error" (in trying to sell pirated copies), like trying to slice up a
    5-volume license of Windows or Quicken.

    All instances of the "corporate" volume license are to remain within the
    organization to which that volume license was sold.

    > I suppose we could wait for Obama to give the ol' guy a computer, but
    > I'm a firm believer that charity should begin and end at home.


    Oh great, another socialist that believes we need to pay even more taxes
    to pay for non-essentials to those that cannot afford them.

    > Since we're obviously making assumptions about others, why do you hate
    > poor old people?


    So my assumption was correct. You ARE trying to give your "friend" an
    illegal copy of Windows. If you want to give them a free OS, why not
    put on one of the many free distros of Linux? Many have desktops very
    similar to Windows and they don't take anymore a steeper learning curve
    than it does to learn to the same degree of Windows. Plus you get a
    stronger more robust OS that doesn't have the higher hardware
    requirements of Windows.

    www.distrowatch.com

    No, I'm not proselytizing some Linux. I have far more Windows hosts
    than *NIX hosts but I don't use the excuse that I can get away with it
    to proliferate illegal licenses of Windows, especially when your
    "friend" is expecting you to give them something usable, won't be later
    detected as a pirated version, or has problems with it and reveals it
    was pirated (by you on behalf of them). It's damn easy to stay legal
    just by using or re-distributing a *free* OS.
     
    VanguardLH, Oct 31, 2010
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  9. 83LowRider

    83LowRider Guest

    VanguardLH wrote:

    > "Corporate" licenses are volume licenses. They are not to get sliced
    > up to pass instances of the volume license to entities outside the
    > organization to which the volume license was originally distributed.
    > Folks on eBay trying to slice up volume licenses have discovered their
    > "error" (in trying to sell pirated copies), like trying to slice up a
    > 5-volume license of Windows or Quicken.


    And once again, you're presuming. You presume I wasn't aware
    of what you wrote above. You presume I'm using pirated software
    to put on an antique computer to give an antique old man.

    > All instances of the "corporate" volume license are to remain within
    > the organization to which that volume license was sold.


    It's legitimate, it's mine, and like anyone else, I'll do with it as I
    choose best. Thanks for your concern tho.

    >> I suppose we could wait for Obama to give the ol' guy a computer, but
    >> I'm a firm believer that charity should begin and end at home.

    >
    > Oh great, another socialist that believes we need to pay even more
    > taxes to pay for non-essentials to those that cannot afford them.


    I'm so anti-Obama/socialist your head would spin if you knew.
    If you didn't read the sarcasm in my above statement, you certainly
    cannot read my windows license from such a distance.

    >> Since we're obviously making assumptions about others, why do you
    >> hate poor old people?

    >
    > So my assumption was correct. You ARE trying to give your "friend" an
    > illegal copy of Windows. If you want to give them a free OS, why not
    > put on one of the many free distros of Linux? Many have desktops very
    > similar to Windows and they don't take anymore a steeper learning
    > curve than it does to learn to the same degree of Windows. Plus you
    > get a stronger more robust OS that doesn't have the higher hardware
    > requirements of Windows.


    You should worry more over illegal aliens, corporate welfare, muslim
    fanatics and the jobless rate. These things may actually matter to you.
    Thanks for the advice with my problem tho.... oh.... wait...
    nevermind.
     
    83LowRider, Nov 1, 2010
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  10. 83LowRider

    VanguardLH Guest

    83LowRider wrote:

    > VanguardLH wrote:
    >
    >> "Corporate" licenses are volume licenses. They are not to get sliced
    >> up to pass instances of the volume license to entities outside the
    >> organization to which the volume license was originally distributed.

    >
    > And once again, you're presuming. You presume I wasn't aware
    > of what you wrote above. You presume I'm using pirated software
    > to put on an antique computer to give an antique old man.


    Once you said "corporate" version and putting it on this friend's host
    you gave yourself away. No presumption required. You outted yourself.

    >> All instances of the "corporate" volume license are to remain within
    >> the organization to which that volume license was sold.

    >
    > It's legitimate, it's mine, and like anyone else, I'll do with it as I
    > choose best. Thanks for your concern tho.


    Wrong. All you bought (assuming you bought it) was a *license*. You
    NEVER bought the software. And, of course, it's your company and this
    friend is suddenly going to become your employee so you can legally
    parse out an instance of that volume license. Uh huh. You're just
    digging a deeper hole for your excuse.

    > You should worry more over illegal aliens, corporate welfare, muslim
    > fanatics and the jobless rate. These things may actually matter to you.


    Oh, female logic. When losing the argument, attempt diversion to a
    completely different topics or justify using unrelated bullshit excuses.
     
    VanguardLH, Nov 1, 2010
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  11. 83LowRider

    83LowRider Guest

    VanguardLH wrote:

    > Once you said "corporate" version and putting it on this friend's host
    > you gave yourself away. No presumption required. You outted
    > yourself.


    Then we have something in common?

    >>> All instances of the "corporate" volume license are to remain within
    >>> the organization to which that volume license was sold.

    >>
    >> It's legitimate, it's mine, and like anyone else, I'll do with it as
    >> I choose best. Thanks for your concern tho.

    >
    > Wrong. All you bought (assuming you bought it) was a *license*. You
    > NEVER bought the software.


    I'll burn every bootleg, every copied movie I own. You hath shown
    me the errorrrrrs of my ways.

    > And, of course, it's your company and this
    > friend is suddenly going to become your employee so you can legally
    > parse out an instance of that volume license. Uh huh. You're just
    > digging a deeper hole for your excuse.


    I'm not digging anything. I just enjoy fucking with you since you
    came in on a thread, offered no help, and thought you'd play
    net nazi. At this point, there is no computer to give away yet, it
    has no software on it, and lastly, I couldn't really give a flying
    **** what your opinion is on it. How's that?

    >> You should worry more over illegal aliens, corporate welfare, muslim
    >> fanatics and the jobless rate. These things may actually matter to
    >> you.

    >
    > Oh, female logic. When losing the argument, attempt diversion to a
    > completely different topics or justify using unrelated bullshit
    > excuses.


    Ahhhh, but there is no *argument* nor any diversion. I told you
    what I planned to do. You have no say-so in the matter, thus
    no argument. If you feel you have "won" anything, feel free to
    pick up your prize at the door. And I've no need to justify
    anything... I'm simply fucking with you and you don't like it.
    Thanks for playing tho. HTH HAND
     
    83LowRider, Nov 1, 2010
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  12. 83LowRider

    Desk Rabbit Guest

    On 01/11/2010 00:55, 83LowRider wrote:
    > VanguardLH wrote:
    >
    >> "Corporate" licenses are volume licenses. They are not to get sliced
    >> up to pass instances of the volume license to entities outside the
    >> organization to which the volume license was originally distributed.
    >> Folks on eBay trying to slice up volume licenses have discovered their
    >> "error" (in trying to sell pirated copies), like trying to slice up a
    >> 5-volume license of Windows or Quicken.

    >
    > And once again, you're presuming. You presume I wasn't aware
    > of what you wrote above. You presume I'm using pirated software
    > to put on an antique computer to give an antique old man.
    >
    >> All instances of the "corporate" volume license are to remain within
    >> the organization to which that volume license was sold.

    >
    > It's legitimate, it's mine, and like anyone else, I'll do with it as I
    > choose best. Thanks for your concern tho.


    It's not yours. You bought a license to use it within the terms of the
    license. Those terms do not include giving it away to other people
    outside your organisation.

    You are doing your friend no favours whatsoever by involving him in
    software piracy and potentially exposing him to potential stress through
    being investigated for using software illegally not to mention the very
    real possibility of legal action. Some friend you are!

    Grab a copy of a Linux OS such as Ubuntu or buy a license to use on that
    machine and do the job properly.
     
    Desk Rabbit, Nov 1, 2010
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  13. 83LowRider

    G. Morgan Guest

    VanguardLH <> wrote:

    >Oh, female logic. When losing the argument, attempt diversion to a
    >completely different topics or justify using unrelated bullshit excuses.


    How do you know the OP is female?

    How do you know he/she is not using the software legally?

    I've read nothing that implicates this person of piracy, just your baseless
    accusation.

    Do you work for Micro$oft? Are you law enforcement? What is your reason for
    questioning this fellow?
     
    G. Morgan, Nov 1, 2010
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  14. 83LowRider

    83LowRider Guest

    Desk Rabbit wrote:

    > It's not yours. You bought a license to use it within the terms of the
    > license. Those terms do not include giving it away to other people
    > outside your organisation.
    >
    > You are doing your friend no favours whatsoever by involving him in
    > software piracy and potentially exposing him to potential stress
    > through being investigated for using software illegally not to
    > mention the very real possibility of legal action. Some friend you
    > are!
    > Grab a copy of a Linux OS such as Ubuntu or buy a license to use on
    > that machine and do the job properly.


    Just what are you going on about? Until I tear back into it,
    find out why it wouldn't format..... there is NO software on it.
    At this point it is simply a box and some spare parts. I
    could just as easily give him an old copy of Win98. I'm glad
    tho, that there are people here worried over something that
    does not yet exist. Please keep me in mind next time you
    roll thru a red light or exceed the speed limit.
     
    83LowRider, Nov 1, 2010
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  15. 83LowRider

    Desk Rabbit Guest

    On 01/11/2010 18:23, 83LowRider wrote:
    > Desk Rabbit wrote:
    >
    >> It's not yours. You bought a license to use it within the terms of the
    >> license. Those terms do not include giving it away to other people
    >> outside your organisation.
    >>
    >> You are doing your friend no favours whatsoever by involving him in
    >> software piracy and potentially exposing him to potential stress
    >> through being investigated for using software illegally not to
    >> mention the very real possibility of legal action. Some friend you
    >> are!
    >> Grab a copy of a Linux OS such as Ubuntu or buy a license to use on
    >> that machine and do the job properly.

    >
    > Just what are you going on about? Until I tear back into it,
    > find out why it wouldn't format..... there is NO software on it.
    > At this point it is simply a box and some spare parts. I
    > could just as easily give him an old copy of Win98. I'm glad
    > tho, that there are people here worried over something that
    > does not yet exist. Please keep me in mind next time you
    > roll thru a red light or exceed the speed limit.
    >
    >

    My apologies, your account has obviously been hacked and it wasn't you
    who said "It was my intent to make it usable and
    give to a friend with no money/computer." and "It was actually my
    intention for it to leave here with a corp copy of Win 2000"

    You (Sorry, the person who hacked your account) may think that pirating
    software doesn't hurt the megolithic Microsoft corporation. What people
    forget is who this practice really does hurt and that is the small
    computer dealers who lose software sales to piracy.
     
    Desk Rabbit, Nov 2, 2010
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  16. 83LowRider

    G. Morgan Guest

    Desk Rabbit <> wrote:

    >You (Sorry, the person who hacked your account) may think that pirating
    >software doesn't hurt the megolithic Microsoft corporation. What people
    >forget is who this practice really does hurt and that is the small
    >computer dealers who lose software sales to piracy.



    If he's anything like me, he's accumulated enough unused licenses to justify
    giving a few away. I know I've paid for more M$FT O/S' than I use.

    Here is an example of how it can happen:

    1. I buy a HP laptop with pre-installed Win7 Home Premium x32.
    2. I format the disk and the recovery partition.
    3. I install Windows Ultimate x64 from a DVD I bought on eBay.

    Now the way I see it, I still have a license for the Win7 Home Premium, with no
    support from MSFT or HP of course.

    A friend comes over with a hosed XP O/S and wants me to fix it. I offer to
    install Win7, using my unused license from the OEM. Why should I buy another
    license when I still have one that I paid for?

    I know that is not officially the way it works, but hey, I paid for 2 O/S's and
    I should get to use them both. Even if it requires using a "work-around" to get
    the damn thing activated.
     
    G. Morgan, Nov 3, 2010
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  17. 83LowRider

    Desk Rabbit Guest

    On 03/11/2010 08:57, G. Morgan wrote:
    > Desk Rabbit<> wrote:
    >
    >> You (Sorry, the person who hacked your account) may think that pirating
    >> software doesn't hurt the megolithic Microsoft corporation. What people
    >> forget is who this practice really does hurt and that is the small
    >> computer dealers who lose software sales to piracy.

    >
    >
    > If he's anything like me, he's accumulated enough unused licenses to justify
    > giving a few away. I know I've paid for more M$FT O/S' than I use.
    >
    > Here is an example of how it can happen:
    >
    > 1. I buy a HP laptop with pre-installed Win7 Home Premium x32.
    > 2. I format the disk and the recovery partition.
    > 3. I install Windows Ultimate x64 from a DVD I bought on eBay.
    >
    > Now the way I see it, I still have a license for the Win7 Home Premium, with no
    > support from MSFT or HP of course.


    You have a license to use it on that machine and that machine only.


    > A friend comes over with a hosed XP O/S and wants me to fix it. I offer to
    > install Win7, using my unused license from the OEM. Why should I buy another
    > license when I still have one that I paid for?

    Because an OEM license lives and dies with the machine it was supplied
    with and is not transferable.
     
    Desk Rabbit, Nov 3, 2010
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  18. 83LowRider

    83LowRider Guest

    Desk Rabbit wrote:

    <snip>

    fwiw...

    As G Morgan wrote, I too own a ton of discs. There are
    five computers running at all times in my home. Two others
    that run on occasion. I used MY old copy of Win98 to format
    MY old computer. I will intstall MAME on it for him to play
    endless arcade games, and I will give it away. That is all
    there is to it. If you have a problem with me giving away an
    antique computer to a basically homebound ol' man, then
    you'll just have to deal with it. Should he ever desire to put
    it online, it'll be between him and Bill Gates at that point.
    None of this had anything to do with my problem. None of
    this was any of your concern whatsoever. I post this as my
    final word on the matter. Should you wish to scribe another
    lecture on morality or things you can only assume, feel free.
     
    83LowRider, Nov 3, 2010
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  19. 83LowRider

    83LowRider Guest

    83LowRider wrote:
    > I was given a computer (minus hard drive) from
    > a relative. It was my intent to make it usable and
    > give to a friend with no money/computer. As the
    > only use would be to play a few simple games,
    > play mp3s or maybe some avi files I would send him
    > (he's not interested in internet) this AMD 950Mhz
    > seemed ideal. (it had a 256 stick of pc133 ram too)
    >


    <snip>
    After a couple more tries, and a couple different
    error messages the power supply was replaced
    and the machine is running fine. Still don't understand
    why it would have run for 30 minutes booting into
    Win95, but refused more then 5 minutes into a format.
    Thanks for the replies.
     
    83LowRider, Nov 3, 2010
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  20. 83LowRider

    Desk Rabbit Guest

    On 03/11/2010 10:44, 83LowRider wrote:
    > Desk Rabbit wrote:
    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > fwiw...
    >
    > As G Morgan wrote, I too own a ton of discs. There are

    Owning disks which are simply the delivery method for getting the
    software you are licensed to use with a set of parameters does not grant
    you the right to give away copies of the software.

    > five computers running at all times in my home. Two others
    > that run on occasion. I used MY old copy of Win98 to format
    > MY old computer. I will intstall MAME on it for him to play
    > endless arcade games, and I will give it away. That is all
    > there is to it. If you have a problem with me giving away an
    > antique computer to a basically homebound ol' man, then
    > you'll just have to deal with it. Should he ever desire to put
    > it online, it'll be between him and Bill Gates at that point.
    > None of this had anything to do with my problem. None of
    > this was any of your concern whatsoever. I post this as my
    > final word on the matter. Should you wish to scribe another
    > lecture on morality or things you can only assume, feel free.
    >
    >

    It's not morality it's law, it's copyright theft and the poor sod you
    think you are helping will not thank you if you or he get caught out.
     
    Desk Rabbit, Nov 3, 2010
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