First foray into 10D high ISO setting

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Ted Rogers, Sep 24, 2003.

  1. Ted Rogers

    Ted Rogers Guest

    I thought I'd post an image up - one of the first I've taken on ISO 3200.
    The floodlighting was exceptionally poor so I had to use my standard 50mm
    1.8 lens and capture the action close up. This is untouched in PS save for
    resizing. I'm pasting the EXIF data below if anyone is interested.
    I'm impressed with the results from the camera - I just need a faster,
    longer lens now :)

    Ted

    http://www.metafazeuk.com/devel/gary/

    EXIF Data

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    Ted Rogers, Sep 24, 2003
    #1
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  2. Ted Rogers

    George Guest

    Hmm. Intresting. I am a 10D owner and i never realy tryed the 3200 iso but
    if i see you photo i think that i am gone try it my self. I would expect a
    lot more noice.

    Greetings,
    George

    www.ghpsite.com

    "Ted Rogers" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I thought I'd post an image up - one of the first I've taken on ISO 3200.
    > The floodlighting was exceptionally poor so I had to use my standard 50mm
    > 1.8 lens and capture the action close up. This is untouched in PS save for
    > resizing. I'm pasting the EXIF data below if anyone is interested.
    > I'm impressed with the results from the camera - I just need a faster,
    > longer lens now :)
    >
    > Ted
    >
    > http://www.metafazeuk.com/devel/gary/
    >
    > EXIF Data
    >
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    George, Sep 24, 2003
    #2
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  3. Ted Rogers

    Jim Townsend Guest

    Ted Rogers wrote:

    > I thought I'd post an image up - one of the first I've taken on ISO 3200.
    > The floodlighting was exceptionally poor so I had to use my standard 50mm
    > 1.8 lens and capture the action close up. This is untouched in PS save for
    > resizing. I'm pasting the EXIF data below if anyone is interested.
    > I'm impressed with the results from the camera - I just need a faster,
    > longer lens now :)


    Good shot..

    Of course you've noticed that just resizing an image gets rid of 99% of the
    noise :)

    ISO 3200 isn't great for printing 8 x 10's, but it's absolutely fantastic for
    shooting stuff just to post on the web.

    You'll have to pick up NeatImage now and see how well it cleans up ISO 3200
    shots..

    >
    > http://www.metafazeuk.com/devel/gary/
     
    Jim Townsend, Sep 24, 2003
    #3
  4. Ted Rogers

    Mike Guest

    "Ted Rogers" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I thought I'd post an image up - one of the first I've taken on ISO 3200.
    > The floodlighting was exceptionally poor so I had to use my standard 50mm
    > 1.8 lens and capture the action close up. This is untouched in PS save for
    > resizing. I'm pasting the EXIF data below if anyone is interested.
    > I'm impressed with the results from the camera - I just need a faster,
    > longer lens now :)
    >
    > Ted
    >
    > http://www.metafazeuk.com/devel/gary/
    >

    Ted - so are you in Wales then? I am in Cardiff, also a 10D owner, also very
    happy with it - and also a rugby fan!!
     
    Mike, Sep 24, 2003
    #4
  5. Ted Rogers

    Ted Rogers Guest


    > > Ted
    > >
    > > http://www.metafazeuk.com/devel/gary/
    > >

    > Ted - so are you in Wales then? I am in Cardiff, also a 10D owner, also

    very
    > happy with it - and also a rugby fan!!
    >

    Yes indeed - you ought to come to one of the 'bwl matches - much better fun
    than that regional cr*p :)
     
    Ted Rogers, Sep 24, 2003
    #5
  6. Ted Rogers

    Mike Guest

    > > Ted - so are you in Wales then? I am in Cardiff, also a 10D owner, also
    > very
    > > happy with it - and also a rugby fan!!
    > >

    > Yes indeed - you ought to come to one of the 'bwl matches - much better

    fun
    > than that regional cr*p :)
    >

    To be honest, I'd love to start going along to some of the "lower division"
    games to start getting into a bit of sports photography. No chance of that
    at the Cardiff Blues, obviously, but do you think any of the
    "non-professional" clubs would be open to an approach about doing some work
    there? I'd be happy to send them a few prints if that will swing things! If
    you want to take this conversation off-group (because I think it must be
    boring for the others!) drop me an email -
    DITOUT remember to take out
    everything in capitals, bloody spam
     
    Mike, Sep 24, 2003
    #6
  7. Ted Rogers

    Todd Walker Guest

    Todd Walker, Sep 24, 2003
    #7
  8. Ted Rogers

    MarkH Guest

    "Ted Rogers" <> wrote in
    news::

    > I thought I'd post an image up - one of the first I've taken on ISO
    > 3200. The floodlighting was exceptionally poor so I had to use my
    > standard 50mm 1.8 lens and capture the action close up. This is
    > untouched in PS save for resizing. I'm pasting the EXIF data below if
    > anyone is interested. I'm impressed with the results from the camera -
    > I just need a faster, longer lens now :)


    Have you considered a good flash? The 420EX or 550EX flashes are probably
    the most popular choices.

    One option is to combine the flash with ISO 400 or ISO 800 to give it a
    good range.



    --
    Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
    See my pics at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~markh/
    "There are 10 types of people, those that
    understand binary and those that don't"
     
    MarkH, Sep 24, 2003
    #8
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