Filtering e-mail with Thunderbird

Discussion in 'Firefox' started by JAS, Dec 27, 2004.

  1. JAS

    JAS Guest

    I installed Thunderbird and Firefox on Dec 26 -- have a question about
    mail filtering in Thunderbird.

    I had several "Message rules" established in Outlook Express. Does
    Thunderbird have a similar function and if so, where do I go to activate
    the rules and to build new mail rules (or modify existing rules)?

    Thanks

    JAS
     
    JAS, Dec 27, 2004
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  2. JAS

    Neon Knight Guest

    JAS <> wrote in news::

    > I had several "Message rules" established in Outlook Express. Does
    > Thunderbird have a similar function


    Click on Tools, then message filters. By the way, TB's filters suck, one
    of the main reasons I don't move to TB.
     
    Neon Knight, Dec 27, 2004
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  3. JAS

    Moz Champion Guest

    Neon Knight wrote:
    > JAS <> wrote in news::
    >
    >
    >>I had several "Message rules" established in Outlook Express. Does
    >>Thunderbird have a similar function

    >
    >
    > Click on Tools, then message filters. By the way, TB's filters suck, one
    > of the main reasons I don't move to TB.


    In most cases, the Junk Mail Controls makes most anti-spam filters
    redundant. And the filters in Mozilla/Thunderbird are quite
    configureable and can do almost anything that the ones in OE could.

    TB's filters are quite useful in fact

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    Moz Champion, Dec 27, 2004
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  4. (On 12/27/2004 7:07 AM) Neon Knight wrote:
    > JAS <> wrote in news::
    >
    >
    >>I had several "Message rules" established in Outlook Express. Does
    >>Thunderbird have a similar function

    >
    >
    > Click on Tools, then message filters. By the way, TB's filters suck, one
    > of the main reasons I don't move to TB.


    What filter do you use in your email client that TB can't do? Spam
    filtering? I can't think of anything I can't accomplish with TB's
    filters and search folders.
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    Brian

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    ::..BRIAN..::, Dec 27, 2004
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  5. JAS

    Hadley Guest

    "::..BRIAN..::" <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote in
    news:%SWzd.11461$ph.8438@okepread01:

    > What filter do you use in your email client that TB can't do? Spam
    > filtering? I can't think of anything I can't accomplish with TB's
    > filters and search folders.


    How about filter & delete on the mail server before you even download a
    message. I currently use The Bat! v2.12 because I am on Earthlink Dailup
    and they like to fill my inbox with mail addressed to "myname" at any of
    the domains that they own. As a result I get over a hundred emails every
    day that are not even addressed to "myname" @earthlink.net. In "The Bat!" I
    check mail headers at the server with a filter to auto delete any mail not
    addressed to my exact email address. As a result I only actually download
    less than ten emails a day.

    Can TB check and delete/retreive messages on the mail server with filtering
    before download?

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    Hadley
     
    Hadley, Dec 27, 2004
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  6. JAS

    Jim Scott Guest

    Hadley wrote:

    > "::..BRIAN..::" <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote in
    > news:%SWzd.11461$ph.8438@okepread01:
    >
    > > What filter do you use in your email client that TB can't do? Spam
    > > filtering? I can't think of anything I can't accomplish with TB's
    > > filters and search folders.

    >
    > How about filter & delete on the mail server before you even download
    > a message. I currently use The Bat! v2.12 because I am on Earthlink
    > Dailup and they like to fill my inbox with mail addressed to "myname"
    > at any of the domains that they own. As a result I get over a hundred
    > emails every day that are not even addressed to "myname"
    > @earthlink.net. In "The Bat!" I check mail headers at the server with
    > a filter to auto delete any mail not addressed to my exact email
    > address. As a result I only actually download less than ten emails a
    > day.
    >
    > Can TB check and delete/retreive messages on the mail server with
    > filtering before download?


    Set account to download headers only.
    Set filter to delete from pop server or somesuch.
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    Jim Scott, Dec 27, 2004
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  7. (On 12/27/2004 2:13 PM) Hadley wrote:
    > "::..BRIAN..::" <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote in
    > news:%SWzd.11461$ph.8438@okepread01:
    >
    >
    >>What filter do you use in your email client that TB can't do? Spam
    >>filtering? I can't think of anything I can't accomplish with TB's
    >>filters and search folders.

    >
    >
    > How about filter & delete on the mail server before you even download a
    > message. I currently use The Bat! v2.12 because I am on Earthlink Dailup
    > and they like to fill my inbox with mail addressed to "myname" at any of
    > the domains that they own. As a result I get over a hundred emails every
    > day that are not even addressed to "myname" @earthlink.net. In "The Bat!" I
    > check mail headers at the server with a filter to auto delete any mail not
    > addressed to my exact email address. As a result I only actually download
    > less than ten emails a day.
    >
    > Can TB check and delete/retreive messages on the mail server with filtering
    > before download?
    >


    Yes.

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    Email Info--
    http://68.1.17.8/p0nykiller/email.htm
     
    ::..BRIAN..::, Dec 27, 2004
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  8. JAS

    Tx2 Guest

    In article <Xns95CC90B5E2F58ID411@207.69.189.191>,
    , a.k.a Hadley says...

    [...]


    > Can TB check and delete/retreive messages on the mail server with filtering
    > before download?


    well, there is an option to delete from POP server ... ? Whether that
    means download to local PC and then delete, I know not.
     
    Tx2, Dec 27, 2004
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  9. JAS

    Moz Champion Guest

    Hadley wrote:

    > "::..BRIAN..::" <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote in
    > news:%SWzd.11461$ph.8438@okepread01:
    >
    >
    >>What filter do you use in your email client that TB can't do? Spam
    >>filtering? I can't think of anything I can't accomplish with TB's
    >>filters and search folders.

    >
    >
    > How about filter & delete on the mail server before you even download a
    > message. I currently use The Bat! v2.12 because I am on Earthlink Dailup
    > and they like to fill my inbox with mail addressed to "myname" at any of
    > the domains that they own. As a result I get over a hundred emails every
    > day that are not even addressed to "myname" @earthlink.net. In "The Bat!" I
    > check mail headers at the server with a filter to auto delete any mail not
    > addressed to my exact email address. As a result I only actually download
    > less than ten emails a day.
    >
    > Can TB check and delete/retreive messages on the mail server with filtering
    > before download?
    >


    Nope, but then neither can OE.

    The Junk Mail Control will catch all those spams not addressed to you as
    well, no need for a seperate filter (that has to be updated to reflect
    new spammers changes) or you can have the 'not me' filter in TB as well.

    TB is a client side product, not a server side one.
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    Moz Champion, Dec 28, 2004
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  10. JAS

    Joe S. Guest

    What does OE do that I want Thunderbird to do?

    Here are a few of the message rules I have set up in OE, mail:

    -- If the subject line contains any of the following words (and I have
    approx 120 words listed -- breast, penis, enlarge, you are a winner, pics,
    hot teens, lottery, work at home, mortgage, credit card, rate, lowest,
    prescriptions, viagra, etc., etc., etc.), then, delete from the server.

    -- If the from line contains (and I have a list of family e-mail addresses),
    then move the message to Family e-mail folder and stop processing rules.

    -- If the from line contains (anyone in my address book), stop processing
    rules (and let the message go into the Inbox).

    Can Thunderbird do any or all of these?

    Thanks.
    --

    -----
    Joe S.



    "::..BRIAN..::" <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
    news:%SWzd.11461$ph.8438@okepread01...
    > (On 12/27/2004 7:07 AM) Neon Knight wrote:
    > > JAS <> wrote in news::
    > >
    > >
    > >>I had several "Message rules" established in Outlook Express. Does
    > >>Thunderbird have a similar function

    > >
    > >
    > > Click on Tools, then message filters. By the way, TB's filters suck, one
    > > of the main reasons I don't move to TB.

    >
    > What filter do you use in your email client that TB can't do? Spam
    > filtering? I can't think of anything I can't accomplish with TB's
    > filters and search folders.
    > --
    > Brian
    >
    > Email Info--
    > http://68.1.17.8/p0nykiller/email.htm
     
    Joe S., Dec 28, 2004
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  11. JAS

    Neon Knight Guest

    "::..BRIAN..::" <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote in
    news:%SWzd.11461$ph.8438@okepread01:

    > What filter do you use in your email client that TB can't do?


    Well, I have 6 email accounts set up, all set to global inbox. If I want
    to label friends/family, etc, I have to set up a separate filter for
    each account. There isn't an easy way to copy filters for each account
    (you can copy the filter file but that's just a workaround.) The "local
    folders" filter only works manually, not on incoming mail. Also, if I
    have 10 email addresses set up to label and I want to delete one of
    them, there is no way to delete just the single entry, unless it's the
    last one in the list.

    Eudora and Courier have a much better filter system.
     
    Neon Knight, Dec 28, 2004
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  12. JAS

    Tx2 Guest

    In article <Xns95CCC463835CA19knightofneon20@216.196.97.136>,
    , a.k.a Neon Knight says...

    [...]

    > Also, if I have 10 email addresses set up to label and
    > I want to delete one of them, there is no way to delete
    > just the single entry, unless it's the last one in the
    > list.


    I just managed to do it .... you simply click to highlight the entry to
    remove, and then click "fewer"
     
    Tx2, Dec 28, 2004
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  13. JAS

    Neon Knight Guest

    Tx2 <> wrote in
    news::

    > I just managed to do it .... you simply click to highlight the entry
    > to remove, and then click "fewer"


    Try again. It does not delete the highlighted entry, it deletes the last
    one in the list.
     
    Neon Knight, Dec 28, 2004
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  14. JAS

    Tx2 Guest

    In article <Xns95CD2BA0D5CE919knightofneon20@216.196.97.136>,
    , a.k.a Neon Knight says...
    > Tx2 <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    > > I just managed to do it .... you simply click to highlight the entry
    > > to remove, and then click "fewer"

    >
    > Try again. It does not delete the highlighted entry, it deletes the last
    > one in the list.


    Correct. I hadn't noticed. One for the "wish list" then.
     
    Tx2, Dec 28, 2004
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  15. JAS

    Ian Guest

    I have some Local Folder filters that I would like to have work for a
    specific account. It appears that I have to re-create the filters for
    the account manually. Is there a way to copy Local Folders filters to a
    specific account?
     
    Ian, Dec 28, 2004
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  16. (On 12/27/2004 7:56 PM) Joe S. wrote:
    > What does OE do that I want Thunderbird to do?
    >
    > Here are a few of the message rules I have set up in OE, mail:
    >
    > -- If the subject line contains any of the following words (and I have
    > approx 120 words listed -- breast, penis, enlarge, you are a winner, pics,
    > hot teens, lottery, work at home, mortgage, credit card, rate, lowest,
    > prescriptions, viagra, etc., etc., etc.), then, delete from the server.
    >
    > -- If the from line contains (and I have a list of family e-mail addresses),
    > then move the message to Family e-mail folder and stop processing rules.
    >
    > -- If the from line contains (anyone in my address book), stop processing
    > rules (and let the message go into the Inbox).
    >
    > Can Thunderbird do any or all of these?
    >
    > Thanks.


    Yes.

    --
    Brian

    Email Info--
    http://68.1.17.8/p0nykiller/email.htm
     
    ::..BRIAN..::, Dec 29, 2004
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  17. JAS

    Ed Mullen Guest

    Ian wrote:

    > I have some Local Folder filters that I would like to have work for a
    > specific account. It appears that I have to re-create the filters for
    > the account manually. Is there a way to copy Local Folders filters to a
    > specific account?


    You can copy the "msgFilterRules.dat" file to other accounts but you'll
    need to manually adjust the paths in the rules. It's a plain-text file
    you can edit using Notepad etc.

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    Ed Mullen, Dec 29, 2004
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  18. JAS

    Ian Guest

    Ed Mullen wrote:
    > You can copy the "msgFilterRules.dat" file to other accounts but you'll
    > need to manually adjust the paths in the rules. It's a plain-text file
    > you can edit using Notepad etc.


    Thank you
     
    Ian, Dec 29, 2004
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