Facebook log in

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by geopelia, Nov 25, 2013.

  1. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    Facebook asked me to log in. They have never done that before.
    Then they sent me a message saying they have noticed me logging in from some
    device, and if it wasn't me to "secure the account"

    What are they playing at? The only computer I use is this one.
    geopelia, Nov 25, 2013
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  2. geopelia

    Your Name Guest

    In article <l6vfva$ovf$>, geopelia
    <> wrote:
    >
    > Facebook asked me to log in. They have never done that before.
    > Then they sent me a message saying they have noticed me logging in from some
    > device, and if it wasn't me to "secure the account"
    >
    > What are they playing at? The only computer I use is this one.


    If you're talking about an email telling you this, then just delete it.
    It will be a silly phising spam email with a link that takes you to a
    fake website to steal your password.
    Your Name, Nov 25, 2013
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  3. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    "Your Name" <> wrote in message
    news:261120130906592692%...
    > In article <l6vfva$ovf$>, geopelia
    > <> wrote:
    >>
    >> Facebook asked me to log in. They have never done that before.
    >> Then they sent me a message saying they have noticed me logging in from
    >> some
    >> device, and if it wasn't me to "secure the account"
    >>
    >> What are they playing at? The only computer I use is this one.

    >
    > If you're talking about an email telling you this, then just delete it.
    > It will be a silly phising spam email with a link that takes you to a
    > fake website to steal your password.


    My Facebook is just for friends and family. All they could do is perhaps add
    themselves as a friend.
    If they want to read the stuff I write good luck to them.
    geopelia, Nov 26, 2013
    #3
  4. geopelia

    Your Name Guest

    In article <l7194u$6th$>, geopelia
    <> wrote:

    > "Your Name" <> wrote in message
    > news:261120130906592692%...
    > > In article <l6vfva$ovf$>, geopelia
    > > <> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> Facebook asked me to log in. They have never done that before.
    > >> Then they sent me a message saying they have noticed me logging in from
    > >> some
    > >> device, and if it wasn't me to "secure the account"
    > >>
    > >> What are they playing at? The only computer I use is this one.

    > >
    > > If you're talking about an email telling you this, then just delete it.
    > > It will be a silly phising spam email with a link that takes you to a
    > > fake website to steal your password.

    >
    > My Facebook is just for friends and family. All they could do is perhaps add
    > themselves as a friend.
    > If they want to read the stuff I write good luck to them.


    Once the spammers have your password they can hi-jack the account -
    change the password and lock you out, then start using your name to do
    all sorts of stupid and nasty things.
    Your Name, Nov 26, 2013
    #4
  5. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    "geoff" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Your Name wrote:
    >> In article <l7194u$6th$>, geopelia
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Your Name" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:261120130906592692%...
    >>>> In article <l6vfva$ovf$>, geopelia
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Facebook asked me to log in. They have never done that before.
    >>>>> Then they sent me a message saying they have noticed me logging in
    >>>>> from some
    >>>>> device, and if it wasn't me to "secure the account"
    >>>>>
    >>>>> What are they playing at? The only computer I use is this one.
    >>>>
    >>>> If you're talking about an email telling you this, then just delete
    >>>> it. It will be a silly phising spam email with a link that takes
    >>>> you to a fake website to steal your password.
    >>>
    >>> My Facebook is just for friends and family. All they could do is
    >>> perhaps add themselves as a friend.
    >>> If they want to read the stuff I write good luck to them.

    >>
    >> Once the spammers have your password they can hi-jack the account -
    >> change the password and lock you out, then start using your name to do
    >> all sorts of stupid and nasty things.

    >
    > So Geo, *NEVER* act on an email that supplies a logon link to "fix
    > something".
    >
    > If you are really worried, go to the website by going there manually
    > *using your own link/bookmark/favourite/whatever* from your browser and
    > check out the supposed problem.
    >
    > geoff


    Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.

    I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.
    geopelia, Nov 26, 2013
    #5
  6. geopelia

    Dave Doe Guest

    In article <l725r3$avd$>, , geopelia
    says...
    >
    > "geoff" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Your Name wrote:
    > >> In article <l7194u$6th$>, geopelia
    > >> <> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> "Your Name" <> wrote in message
    > >>> news:261120130906592692%...
    > >>>> In article <l6vfva$ovf$>, geopelia
    > >>>> <> wrote:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Facebook asked me to log in. They have never done that before.
    > >>>>> Then they sent me a message saying they have noticed me logging in
    > >>>>> from some
    > >>>>> device, and if it wasn't me to "secure the account"
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> What are they playing at? The only computer I use is this one.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> If you're talking about an email telling you this, then just delete
    > >>>> it. It will be a silly phising spam email with a link that takes
    > >>>> you to a fake website to steal your password.
    > >>>
    > >>> My Facebook is just for friends and family. All they could do is
    > >>> perhaps add themselves as a friend.
    > >>> If they want to read the stuff I write good luck to them.
    > >>
    > >> Once the spammers have your password they can hi-jack the account -
    > >> change the password and lock you out, then start using your name to do
    > >> all sorts of stupid and nasty things.

    > >
    > > So Geo, *NEVER* act on an email that supplies a logon link to "fix
    > > something".
    > >
    > > If you are really worried, go to the website by going there manually
    > > *using your own link/bookmark/favourite/whatever* from your browser and
    > > check out the supposed problem.
    > >
    > > geoff

    >
    > Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.
    >
    > I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.


    Not sure you understand what Geoff's saying - seemed clear enough to me.

    Don't use links from *e-mails* - to "login". Delete the e-mails, they
    are quite probably phishing e-mails looking to gain your credentials (by
    taking you to a fake / look-alike website to login).

    Go to the *site* itself (eg. www.facebook.com) and login. Simple.

    --
    Duncan.
    Dave Doe, Nov 26, 2013
    #6
  7. In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia" <> wrote:
    (snip)

    >Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.


    It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is usually
    *not* a good idea. :)

    >I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.


    ... and I include facebook in this list. :) :)
    Bruce Sinclair, Nov 27, 2013
    #7
  8. geopelia

    Enkidu Guest

    On 27/11/13 13:11, Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    > In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia" <> wrote:
    > (snip)
    >
    >> Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.

    >
    > It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is usually
    > *not* a good idea. :)
    >

    What annoys me is the sites that require you to login just to read their
    FAQ or knowledgebase. Banks, shopping sites for *specific* companies
    (like Whitcoulls or Amazon or Fishpond) are OK.
    >
    >> I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.

    >
    > .. and I include facebook in this list. :) :)
    >

    Give Geo a break, Bruce! While you may get your information 'stolen' on
    Facebook, it is still very unlikely, and it is still one of the best
    ways to keep in touch!

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    Enkidu, Nov 27, 2013
    #8
  9. In article <>, "geoff" <> wrote:
    >Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    >> In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia"
    >> <> wrote: (snip)
    >>
    >>> Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.

    >>
    >> It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is
    >> usually *not* a good idea. :)
    >>
    >>> I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.

    >>
    >> .. and I include facebook in this list. :) :)

    >
    >Must make internet banking, shopping, forums, etc rather difficult for you
    >.....


    Nope.

    Banking *is* a pain. Shopping via email and a credit card is easy.
    Forums are evil (cf newsgroups) ... and much of the other stuff is simply a
    waste of space. :)

    I know, milages vary. :) :)
    Bruce Sinclair, Nov 27, 2013
    #9
  10. In article <52953ffd$>, Enkidu <> wrote:
    >On 27/11/13 13:11, Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    >> In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia" <>

    > wrote:
    >> (snip)
    >>
    >>> Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.

    >>
    >> It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is usually
    >> *not* a good idea. :)
    >>

    >What annoys me is the sites that require you to login just to read their
    >FAQ or knowledgebase. Banks, shopping sites for *specific* companies
    >(like Whitcoulls or Amazon or Fishpond) are OK.


    Yes, those are particualrly nasty. I don't.


    >>> I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.

    >>
    >> .. and I include facebook in this list. :) :)
    >>

    >Give Geo a break, Bruce! While you may get your information 'stolen' on
    >Facebook, it is still very unlikely, and it is still one of the best
    >ways to keep in touch!


    Disagree. Vigorously. :)

    Much better to talk to people.

    Yes, I know, mileages vary. :)
    Bruce Sinclair, Nov 27, 2013
    #10
  11. geopelia

    Your Name Guest

    In article <l739rk$dou$>, Bruce Sinclair
    <> wrote:
    > In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia" <>
    > wrote:
    > (snip)
    >
    > >Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.

    >
    > It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is usually
    > *not* a good idea. :)


    I sometimes get spam emails fomr "banks" asking to log in to my account
    .... when I don't even have an account with that bank. If I had time to
    waste I'd keep using the link in the email and entering ficticious
    details.
    Your Name, Nov 27, 2013
    #11
  12. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    "geoff" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > geopelia wrote:
    >>>
    >>> So Geo, *NEVER* act on an email that supplies a logon link to "fix
    >>> something".
    >>>
    >>> If you are really worried, go to the website by going there manually
    >>> *using your own link/bookmark/favourite/whatever* from your browser
    >>> and check out the supposed problem.
    >>>
    >>> geoff

    >>
    >> Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.
    >>
    >> I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.

    >
    > Oh course they do, but my/our point is (did you get the significance ?) :
    > *NEVER* act on an EMAIL that supplies a logon link to "fix something".
    >
    > They are inevitable scams that take to to a fascimile of the website in
    > order to steal your logon information.
    >
    > Although in this case it may be "only Facebook", but they can then lock
    > YOU out by changing passwords, and then use the account to spread malware,
    > or circulate kiddie-porn, or perform other illegal activites.
    >
    > geoff
    >
    >

    Thank you, I see what you mean.
    They just wanted to know if I had done something and if it wasn't me, to do
    something which I forget now.
    I've had that email before and think it does come from Facebook.
    The only other person able to get into this computer is the computer man,
    and I would have to click on something to let him in if he had to fix
    something.
    geopelia, Nov 27, 2013
    #12
  13. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    "Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
    news:-september.org...
    > In article <l725r3$avd$>, , geopelia
    > says...
    >>
    >> "geoff" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> > Your Name wrote:
    >> >> In article <l7194u$6th$>, geopelia
    >> >> <> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>> "Your Name" <> wrote in message
    >> >>> news:261120130906592692%...
    >> >>>> In article <l6vfva$ovf$>, geopelia
    >> >>>> <> wrote:
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> Facebook asked me to log in. They have never done that before.
    >> >>>>> Then they sent me a message saying they have noticed me logging in
    >> >>>>> from some
    >> >>>>> device, and if it wasn't me to "secure the account"
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> What are they playing at? The only computer I use is this one.
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> If you're talking about an email telling you this, then just delete
    >> >>>> it. It will be a silly phising spam email with a link that takes
    >> >>>> you to a fake website to steal your password.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> My Facebook is just for friends and family. All they could do is
    >> >>> perhaps add themselves as a friend.
    >> >>> If they want to read the stuff I write good luck to them.
    >> >>
    >> >> Once the spammers have your password they can hi-jack the account -
    >> >> change the password and lock you out, then start using your name to do
    >> >> all sorts of stupid and nasty things.
    >> >
    >> > So Geo, *NEVER* act on an email that supplies a logon link to "fix
    >> > something".
    >> >
    >> > If you are really worried, go to the website by going there manually
    >> > *using your own link/bookmark/favourite/whatever* from your browser and
    >> > check out the supposed problem.
    >> >
    >> > geoff

    >>
    >> Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.
    >>
    >> I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.

    >
    > Not sure you understand what Geoff's saying - seemed clear enough to me.
    >
    > Don't use links from *e-mails* - to "login". Delete the e-mails, they
    > are quite probably phishing e-mails looking to gain your credentials (by
    > taking you to a fake / look-alike website to login).
    >
    > Go to the *site* itself (eg. www.facebook.com) and login. Simple.
    >

    yes, I'll do that. I'm always getting stuff from banks. The latest that
    keeps turning up is the Bank of Dominica (if that is what the Spanish seems
    to mean)

    Thank you.
    geopelia, Nov 27, 2013
    #13
  14. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    "geoff" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    >> In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia"
    >> <> wrote: (snip)
    >>
    >>> Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.

    >>
    >> It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is
    >> usually *not* a good idea. :)
    >>
    >>> I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.

    >>
    >> .. and I include facebook in this list. :) :)

    >
    > Must make internet banking, shopping, forums, etc rather difficult for you
    > ....
    >
    >
    > geoff


    Yes, Countdown always wants me to log in for their home delivery, and they
    ask for my password again for the Direct Debit.
    (Nice typo, I just had that as Direst Debit).
    geopelia, Nov 27, 2013
    #14
  15. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    "Bruce Sinclair" <> wrote
    in message news:l73opr$el0$...
    > In article <>, "geoff"
    > <> wrote:
    >>Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    >>> In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia"
    >>> <> wrote: (snip)
    >>>
    >>>> Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.
    >>>
    >>> It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is
    >>> usually *not* a good idea. :)
    >>>
    >>>> I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.
    >>>
    >>> .. and I include facebook in this list. :) :)

    >>
    >>Must make internet banking, shopping, forums, etc rather difficult for you
    >>.....

    >
    > Nope.
    >
    > Banking *is* a pain. Shopping via email and a credit card is easy.
    > Forums are evil (cf newsgroups) ... and much of the other stuff is simply
    > a
    > waste of space. :)
    >
    > I know, milages vary. :) :)
    >


    I don't do any banking except at a branch with a teller.

    Trend Micro picks up web threats.
    geopelia, Nov 27, 2013
    #15
  16. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    "Enkidu" <> wrote in message
    news:52953ffd$...
    > On 27/11/13 13:11, Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    >> In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia"
    >> <> wrote:
    >> (snip)
    >>
    >>> Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.

    >>
    >> It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is
    >> usually
    >> *not* a good idea. :)
    >>

    > What annoys me is the sites that require you to login just to read their
    > FAQ or knowledgebase. Banks, shopping sites for *specific* companies (like
    > Whitcoulls or Amazon or Fishpond) are OK.
    > >
    >>> I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.

    >>
    >> .. and I include facebook in this list. :) :)
    >>

    > Give Geo a break, Bruce! While you may get your information 'stolen' on
    > Facebook, it is still very unlikely, and it is still one of the best ways
    > to keep in touch!
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Cliff
    >


    I only have Facebook for friends and family. My relations are all over the
    place, so it certainly saves on postage.
    geopelia, Nov 27, 2013
    #16
  17. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    "Bruce Sinclair" <> wrote
    in message news:l73os6$el0$...
    > In article <52953ffd$>, Enkidu
    > <> wrote:
    >>On 27/11/13 13:11, Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    >>> In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia"
    >>> <>

    >> wrote:
    >>> (snip)
    >>>
    >>>> Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.
    >>>
    >>> It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is
    >>> usually
    >>> *not* a good idea. :)
    >>>

    >>What annoys me is the sites that require you to login just to read their
    >>FAQ or knowledgebase. Banks, shopping sites for *specific* companies
    >>(like Whitcoulls or Amazon or Fishpond) are OK.

    >
    > Yes, those are particualrly nasty. I don't.
    >
    >
    >>>> I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.
    >>>
    >>> .. and I include facebook in this list. :) :)
    >>>

    >>Give Geo a break, Bruce! While you may get your information 'stolen' on
    >>Facebook, it is still very unlikely, and it is still one of the best
    >>ways to keep in touch!

    >
    > Disagree. Vigorously. :)
    >
    > Much better to talk to people.
    >
    > Yes, I know, mileages vary. :)
    >
    >

    You mean overseas phone calls?
    Apart from the cost, I never know what people may be doing, though I can
    check the local time on the internet.
    With Facebook, they can read it when they like.
    geopelia, Nov 27, 2013
    #17
  18. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    "Your Name" <> wrote in message
    news:271120131908046464%...
    > In article <l739rk$dou$>, Bruce Sinclair
    > <> wrote:
    >> In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia"
    >> <>
    >> wrote:
    >> (snip)
    >>
    >> >Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.

    >>
    >> It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is
    >> usually
    >> *not* a good idea. :)

    >
    > I sometimes get spam emails fomr "banks" asking to log in to my account
    > ... when I don't even have an account with that bank. If I had time to
    > waste I'd keep using the link in the email and entering ficticious
    > details.


    Nobody has offered me any Russian Brides for quite a while now.
    I suppose they realised they were wasting their time.
    geopelia, Nov 27, 2013
    #18
  19. geopelia

    Your Name Guest

    In article <l74rmt$din$>, geopelia
    <> wrote:
    > "Bruce Sinclair" <> wrote
    > in message news:l73opr$el0$...
    > > In article <>, "geoff"
    > > <> wrote:
    > >>Bruce Sinclair wrote:
    > >>> In article <l725r3$avd$>, "geopelia"
    > >>> <> wrote: (snip)
    > >>>
    > >>>> Many sites want me to log in. I can't get in unless I do.
    > >>>
    > >>> It is my experience, that if a web site wants you to log in, it is
    > >>> usually *not* a good idea. :)
    > >>>
    > >>>> I haven't noticed anything different on Facebook.
    > >>>
    > >>> .. and I include facebook in this list. :) :)
    > >>
    > >>Must make internet banking, shopping, forums, etc rather difficult for you
    > >>.....

    > >
    > > Nope.
    > >
    > > Banking *is* a pain. Shopping via email and a credit card is easy.
    > > Forums are evil (cf newsgroups) ... and much of the other stuff is simply
    > > a
    > > waste of space. :)
    > >
    > > I know, milages vary. :) :)

    >
    > I don't do any banking except at a branch with a teller.


    I don't do any banking on the Internet, telephone, mobile phone, nor
    use ATMs. I solely go to the branch teller about once a month. Not only
    is my computer and dial-up connection too old and too slow, but it's
    difficult (so far) to deposit cheques via the Internet / phone. :)



    > Trend Micro picks up web threats.


    Trend Micro picks up web threats IT KNOWS ABOUT. The problem is that
    anti-malware application makers are ALWAYS a few steps behind the
    people making the malware (unless you're a conspiracy theory nutter who
    believes the anti-malware makers also create the mal-ware). NONE of the
    anit-malware applications actually pick up nor stop ALL threats.

    That's one reason why I use a Mac - there is no malware to worry about
    (unless you're stupid enough to visit porn sites and pirate software)
    and no need to use anti-malware software.
    Your Name, Nov 27, 2013
    #19
  20. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    "geoff" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > geopelia wrote:
    >>>

    >> Thank you, I see what you mean.
    >> They just wanted to know if I had done something and if it wasn't
    >> me, to do something which I forget now.

    >
    > NO . It is somebody else - not Facebook - and the site you go to is not
    > really Facebook (etc) but one that looks the same, and you enter your
    > username and password, and they then have it.
    >
    >> I've had that email before and think it does come from Facebook.

    >
    > Possibly (probably) doesn't.
    >
    >> The only other person able to get into this computer is the computer
    >> man, and I would have to click on something to let him in if he had
    >> to fix something.

    >
    > Nothing to do with "this computer". Anybody can do anything from anywhere
    > on any computer.
    >
    > geoff
    >

    Why worry? The government probably knows everything about everybody anyway.
    geopelia, Nov 27, 2013
    #20
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