ELECTION: thoughts of a JFK/McCain ticket?

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Sparrow, May 20, 2004.

  1. Sparrow

    Sparrow Guest

    Can a Democrat/Republican joint ticket beat Bush/Cheney?

    This is a very important election year. John F. Kerry needs to select a
    suitable Vice Presidential candidate if he expects to have a chance of
    beating George W. Bush in the 2004 election. His former Democratic
    Primary rivals (John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Howard Dean, etc.) are his
    likely choices, but there has been an ever growing speculation that he
    might choose someone more controversial......like Hillary Rodham Clinton,
    or even Bush's Republican rival from Arizona, John McCain.

    McCain denies that he would accept such a nomination, but so has Hillary
    and Edwards, yet the VP candidate is likely to be one of these three
    people.

    Who do you think would be the greatest asset to J F Kerry as running
    mate?

    With the latest abuse photos and videos popping up (US military abuse of
    Iraqis, possible Nick Berg video forgery), the polls are likely to be
    less predictive of the election outcome than they have traditionally been
    in the past.

    Kerry's choice is critical.
     
    Sparrow, May 20, 2004
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  2. Sparrow

    Z. Guest

    the Real JFK is dead & the pretender is not even close.

    Z
    "Sparrow" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Can a Democrat/Republican joint ticket beat Bush/Cheney?
    >
    > This is a very important election year. John F. Kerry needs to select a
    > suitable Vice Presidential candidate if he expects to have a chance of
    > beating George W. Bush in the 2004 election. His former Democratic
    > Primary rivals (John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Howard Dean, etc.) are his
    > likely choices, but there has been an ever growing speculation that he
    > might choose someone more controversial......like Hillary Rodham Clinton,
    > or even Bush's Republican rival from Arizona, John McCain.
    >
    > McCain denies that he would accept such a nomination, but so has Hillary
    > and Edwards, yet the VP candidate is likely to be one of these three
    > people.
    >
    > Who do you think would be the greatest asset to J F Kerry as running
    > mate?
    >
    > With the latest abuse photos and videos popping up (US military abuse of
    > Iraqis, possible Nick Berg video forgery), the polls are likely to be
    > less predictive of the election outcome than they have traditionally been
    > in the past.
    >
    > Kerry's choice is critical.
    >
     
    Z., May 20, 2004
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  3. Sparrow

    OrionCA Guest

    On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:39:22 -0400, Sparrow
    <> wrote:

    >Can a Democrat/Republican joint ticket beat Bush/Cheney?


    McCain is adamantly opposed to abortion. Do you REALLY want him on
    the ticket?
    --
    From 1984 to present Kerry has maintained that he
    "Never implied he threw away his own medals" during
    a war protest in 1971.

    "I gave back, I can't remember, 6, 7, 8, 9 medals,"
    Kerry said in an interview on a Washington, D.C.
    news program on WRC-TV's called Viewpoints on
    November 6, 1971.

    http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/Investigation/kerry_vietnam_medals_040425.html
     
    OrionCA, May 20, 2004
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  4. Sparrow

    Bill Hilton Guest

    One of many reasons it won't happen is McCain would have to give up his Senate
    seat and the Democrat Gov of Arizona would then get to appoint his successor, a
    Dem taking over a Republican seat. Ain't gonna happen ...
     
    Bill Hilton, May 20, 2004
    #4
  5. Sparrow

    Bert Bishop Guest

    Sparrow wrote:
    >
    > Can a Democrat/Republican joint ticket beat Bush/Cheney?
    >
    > This is a very important election year. John F. Kerry needs to select a
    > suitable Vice Presidential candidate if he expects to have a chance of
    > beating George W. Bush in the 2004 election. His former Democratic
    > Primary rivals (John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Howard Dean, etc.) are his
    > likely choices, but there has been an ever growing speculation that he
    > might choose someone more controversial......like Hillary Rodham Clinton,
    > or even Bush's Republican rival from Arizona, John McCain.
    >
    > McCain denies that he would accept such a nomination, but so has Hillary
    > and Edwards, yet the VP candidate is likely to be one of these three
    > people.
    >
    > Who do you think would be the greatest asset to J F Kerry as running
    > mate?
    >
    > With the latest abuse photos and videos popping up (US military abuse of
    > Iraqis, possible Nick Berg video forgery), the polls are likely to be
    > less predictive of the election outcome than they have traditionally been
    > in the past.
    >
    > Kerry's choice is critical.


    It's not going to be Clinton or McCain. I guess that leaves Edwards.
    But Bill Richardson would do the Democratic ticket wonders. There would
    be a feeling of geographic balance, Democrats wouldn't have to campaign
    in CA, Republicans would have to campaign in CO, Democrats would win NM
    without much effort and AZ would be in play. The Democrats would
    enhance their image as the party of diversity with a national candidate
    50% Hispanic.

    What I really worry about is a Bush/Giuliani ticket. Giuliani would
    have toflipflop on social issues, but it's been done before. Most
    notably by George HW Bush, who later became president. As supporter of
    the Democratic ticket I really hope the national Republicans keep
    Haliburton.
     
    Bert Bishop, May 20, 2004
    #5
  6. Sparrow

    columbotrek Guest

    Kofi Aman,

    A perfect running mate for the global socialist that Kerry is.

    Sparrow wrote:

    >
    > Kerry's choice is critical.
    >


    --
    "How can there possibly be liberty and justice for all, when, in the
    name of justice, people claim rights to income, food, housing,
    education, health care, transportation, ad infinitum? We can't. Positive
    rights to receive such things, absent an obligation to earn them, must
    violate others' liberty, by taking some of their income without their
    consent. They are really just wishes, convertible into benefits for some
    only by employing the government to violate others' rights not to have
    what is theirs taken." --Pepperdine Professor Gary Galles
     
    columbotrek, May 20, 2004
    #6
  7. Way ot

    Bill Hilton wrote:

    << Snipped bits out >>

    I'm pretty sure you didn't mean to post this in rec.p.d.
    I sure hope not.

    --
    John McWilliams
     
    John McWilliams, May 20, 2004
    #7
  8. Sparrow <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > Can a Democrat/Republican joint ticket beat Bush/Cheney?
    >
    > This is a very important election year. John F. Kerry needs to select a
    > suitable Vice Presidential candidate if he expects to have a chance of
    > beating George W. Bush in the 2004 election. His former Democratic
    > Primary rivals (John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Howard Dean, etc.) are his
    > likely choices, but there has been an ever growing speculation that he
    > might choose someone more controversial......like Hillary Rodham Clinton,
    > or even Bush's Republican rival from Arizona, John McCain.
    >
    > McCain denies that he would accept such a nomination, but so has Hillary
    > and Edwards, yet the VP candidate is likely to be one of these three
    > people.
    >
    > Who do you think would be the greatest asset to J F Kerry as running
    > mate?
    >
    > With the latest abuse photos and videos popping up (US military abuse of
    > Iraqis, possible Nick Berg video forgery), the polls are likely to be
    > less predictive of the election outcome than they have traditionally been
    > in the past.
    >
    > Kerry's choice is critical.


    >>>>>>>>>>>>Take this crap someplace else!!!!!
     
    Michael P Gabriel, May 20, 2004
    #8
  9. Bert Bishop <> wrote in
    news::

    > What I really worry about is a Bush/Giuliani ticket.


    The GOP base would never support that. A third party conservative would
    emerge.

    --
    "Live fast. Die young." (Nikki Sixx)

    -Richard Cockburn
     
    Richard Cockburn, May 20, 2004
    #9
  10. Sparrow

    Ken Anderson Guest

    Well, that's it. A few replies to the election troll thread, and it PLONKOLA!
    Thanks to whomever turned me on to that message rule.
    Ken
     
    Ken Anderson, May 20, 2004
    #10
  11. In article <>,
    "Ken Anderson" <> wrote:

    > Well, that's it. A few replies to the election troll thread, and it PLONKOLA!
    > Thanks to whomever turned me on to that message rule.
    > Ken
    >
    >


    I guess we all need help locating a clue sometimes.
     
    Any Moose Poster, May 20, 2004
    #11
  12. Sparrow

    Alan Browne Guest

    Re: ELECTION: thoughts of a JFK/McCain ticket? PLONK ME Ken!

    Any Moose Poster wrote:

    > In article <>,
    > "Ken Anderson" <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Well, that's it. A few replies to the election troll thread, and it PLONKOLA!
    >>Thanks to whomever turned me on to that message rule.
    >>Ken



    Ken, please get my name, etc. right when you PLONK me!

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, May 20, 2004
    #12
  13. Sparrow

    The Dave© Guest

    > Sparrow wrote:
    > Who do you think would be the greatest asset to J F Kerry as running
    > mate?


    Yes, I agree, the tripod is the most underrated of the serious
    photographer's tools.

    --
    Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
    ~Author Unknown
     
    The Dave©, May 20, 2004
    #13
  14. Sparrow

    Paul F Guest

    "Sparrow" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Can a Democrat/Republican joint ticket beat Bush/Cheney?
    >

    Only if the Democrat/Republican ticket is Bush/Miller.
     
    Paul F, May 21, 2004
    #14
  15. Dude. Global socialist? Is that the kind of reactionary shit they teach you
    at Pepperdine?

    "columbotrek" <> wrote in message
    news:c8imeh$74t11$...
    > Kofi Aman,
    >
    > A perfect running mate for the global socialist that Kerry is.
    >
    > Sparrow wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > Kerry's choice is critical.
    > >

    >
    > --
    > "How can there possibly be liberty and justice for all, when, in the
    > name of justice, people claim rights to income, food, housing,
    > education, health care, transportation, ad infinitum? We can't. Positive
    > rights to receive such things, absent an obligation to earn them, must
    > violate others' liberty, by taking some of their income without their
    > consent. They are really just wishes, convertible into benefits for some
    > only by employing the government to violate others' rights not to have
    > what is theirs taken." --Pepperdine Professor Gary Galles
     
    Darren Trotsky, May 21, 2004
    #15
  16. "Paul F" <> wrote ...
    > "Sparrow" <> wrote ...
    > > Can a Democrat/Republican joint ticket beat Bush/Cheney?
    > >

    > Only if the Democrat/Republican ticket is Bush/Miller.
    >

    Anheuser Busch & Miller Lite ?

    --
    Show me a saddle-sore cowboy and I'll show you a Raw hide
     
    Tony Parkinson, May 21, 2004
    #16
  17. Sparrow

    paleryder Guest

    "Sparrow" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Can a Democrat/Republican joint ticket beat Bush/Cheney?
    >
    > This is a very important election year. John F. Kerry needs to select a
    > suitable Vice Presidential candidate if he expects to have a chance of
    > beating George W. Bush in the 2004 election. His former Democratic
    > Primary rivals (John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Howard Dean, etc.) are his
    > likely choices, but there has been an ever growing speculation that he
    > might choose someone more controversial......like Hillary Rodham Clinton,
    > or even Bush's Republican rival from Arizona, John McCain.
    >
    > McCain denies that he would accept such a nomination, but so has Hillary
    > and Edwards, yet the VP candidate is likely to be one of these three
    > people.
    >
    > Who do you think would be the greatest asset to J F Kerry as running
    > mate?


    Scratch Gephart and Dean. Dean especially is a prima donna, and he
    couldn't be sufficiently background. Dean is also another New Englander,
    and the ticket needs to be balanced.

    Hillary is the one that would ensure his loss. Too much animus against her.

    Edwards could work. He'd balance the ticket and he's a good campaigner.

    McCain and he's in in a cake walk. This would require moving the party
    to the center, and would potentially alienate the left wing of the party.
    OTOH,
    it would deliver a lot of the moderate Republicans.

    We're going to see a shift in how we do politics. It's too polarized,
    and there is a lot of bitter animosity. Any successful party will have
    to govern from the center.
     
    paleryder, May 23, 2004
    #17
  18. On Sat, 22 May 2004 23:20:43 -0400, "paleryder" <>
    wrote:

    >
    >"Sparrow" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Can a Democrat/Republican joint ticket beat Bush/Cheney?
    >>
    >> This is a very important election year. John F. Kerry needs to select a
    >> suitable Vice Presidential candidate if he expects to have a chance of
    >> beating George W. Bush in the 2004 election. His former Democratic
    >> Primary rivals (John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Howard Dean, etc.) are his
    >> likely choices, but there has been an ever growing speculation that he
    >> might choose someone more controversial......like Hillary Rodham Clinton,
    >> or even Bush's Republican rival from Arizona, John McCain.
    >>
    >> McCain denies that he would accept such a nomination, but so has Hillary
    >> and Edwards, yet the VP candidate is likely to be one of these three
    >> people.
    >>
    >> Who do you think would be the greatest asset to J F Kerry as running
    >> mate?

    >
    >Scratch Gephart and Dean. Dean especially is a prima donna, and he
    >couldn't be sufficiently background. Dean is also another New Englander,
    >and the ticket needs to be balanced.
    >
    >Hillary is the one that would ensure his loss. Too much animus against her.
    >
    >Edwards could work. He'd balance the ticket and he's a good campaigner.
    >
    >McCain and he's in in a cake walk. This would require moving the party
    >to the center, and would potentially alienate the left wing of the party.
    >OTOH,
    >it would deliver a lot of the moderate Republicans.
    >
    >We're going to see a shift in how we do politics. It's too polarized,
    >and there is a lot of bitter animosity. Any successful party will have
    >to govern from the center.
    >


    This morning on FOX News, Hillary gave an interview and said she would
    give such a ticket her whole support. She said in these weird times
    maybe a split ticket is what is needed.

    --
    Served for 20.5 years. You know your getting old
    when all your old commands are now in mothballs.
     
    MACUSNRetired, May 23, 2004
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  19. Sparrow

    Mike Henley Guest

    MACUSNRetired <> wrote in message news:<>...

    > This morning on FOX News,


    That channel is bad for the intellect.
     
    Mike Henley, Jun 8, 2004
    #19
  20. Sparrow <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > Can a Democrat/Republican joint ticket beat Bush/Cheney?
    >
    > This is a very important election year. John F. Kerry needs to select a
    > suitable Vice Presidential candidate if he expects to have a chance of
    > beating George W. Bush in the 2004 election. His former Democratic
    > Primary rivals (John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Howard Dean, etc.) are his
    > likely choices, but there has been an ever growing speculation that he
    > might choose someone more controversial......like Hillary Rodham Clinton,
    > or even Bush's Republican rival from Arizona, John McCain.
    >
    > McCain denies that he would accept such a nomination, but so has Hillary
    > and Edwards, yet the VP candidate is likely to be one of these three
    > people.
    >
    > Who do you think would be the greatest asset to J F Kerry as running
    > mate?


    Ted Kennedy

    LQTM

    I'll vote for Bush (I want to vote for Nixon again, but I can't).
     
    Michael Scarpitti, Jun 8, 2004
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