Differences in CPU & RAM speeds

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Rob J, Apr 2, 2005.

  1. Rob J

    Rob J Guest

    Hi,

    I'm trying to get an accurate comparison of the speed difference between
    two systems which both use the Intel 845GV chipset.

    One is a Celeron 2.53 GHz with PC3200 / DDR 400 RAM
    The other is a Celeron 2.8 GHz with PC2700 RAM

    What is the difference between PC2700 and PC3200 RAM in the FSB and other
    speeds?

    The CPU speed is a pretty small percentage and amounts to about $20 of
    value at today's prices.
     
    Rob J, Apr 2, 2005
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  2. Rob J

    Impossible Guest

    "Rob J" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm trying to get an accurate comparison of the speed difference
    > between
    > two systems which both use the Intel 845GV chipset.
    >
    > One is a Celeron 2.53 GHz with PC3200 / DDR 400 RAM
    > The other is a Celeron 2.8 GHz with PC2700 RAM
    >
    > What is the difference between PC2700 and PC3200 RAM in the FSB and
    > other
    > speeds?
    >
    > The CPU speed is a pretty small percentage and amounts to about $20
    > of
    > value at today's prices.


    It's hard to make generalizations about differences that small. Some
    applications will run better with the faster cpu, others will improve
    with the faster ram. But it's usually a good idea to try to match the
    FSB speed of the processor to the FSB speed of the ram, so if it were
    up to me to choose between the two I'd probably opt for the Celeron
    2.53/PC3200 kit.

    There are some benchmarks here to give you a feel for the raw
    difference in processor speed:

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/print/value-cpus.html

    But keep in mind that these were all run on an i865PE board, which
    would probably be slightly better all-around.
     
    Impossible, Apr 2, 2005
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  3. Rob J

    BILL Guest

    On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 02:34:21 +1200, Rob J <> wrote:

    >Hi,
    >
    >I'm trying to get an accurate comparison of the speed difference between
    >two systems which both use the Intel 845GV chipset.
    >
    >One is a Celeron 2.53 GHz with PC3200 / DDR 400 RAM
    >The other is a Celeron 2.8 GHz with PC2700 RAM
    >
    >What is the difference between PC2700 and PC3200 RAM in the FSB and other
    >speeds?
    >
    >The CPU speed is a pretty small percentage and amounts to about $20 of
    >value at today's prices.




    No not a Crap Celeron System, leave well alown as they are All low end budget
    systems.


    No good at all for Games..
     
    BILL, Apr 2, 2005
    #3
  4. Rob J

    Rob J Guest

    In article <> in nz.comp on
    Sun, 03 Apr 2005 08:00:33 +1200, BILL <> says...
    > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 02:34:21 +1200, Rob J <> wrote:
    >
    > >Hi,
    > >
    > >I'm trying to get an accurate comparison of the speed difference between
    > >two systems which both use the Intel 845GV chipset.
    > >
    > >One is a Celeron 2.53 GHz with PC3200 / DDR 400 RAM
    > >The other is a Celeron 2.8 GHz with PC2700 RAM
    > >
    > >What is the difference between PC2700 and PC3200 RAM in the FSB and other
    > >speeds?
    > >
    > >The CPU speed is a pretty small percentage and amounts to about $20 of
    > >value at today's prices.

    >
    >
    >
    > No not a Crap Celeron System, leave well alown as they are All low end budget
    > systems.
    >
    >
    > No good at all for Games..


    The price difference between a Celeron and a P4 is substantial. No-one in
    their right minds would buy a P4 for any application when they don't need
    the extra power.

    I haven't played computer games since I was at school. I see no need to
    spend hours playing games on a computer that could be used for more
    worthwhile activities, like socialising with family or friends.
     
    Rob J, Apr 3, 2005
    #4
  5. Rob J

    BILL Guest

    On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:26:13 +1200, Rob J <> wrote:

    >In article <> in nz.comp on
    >Sun, 03 Apr 2005 08:00:33 +1200, BILL <> says...
    >> On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 02:34:21 +1200, Rob J <> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Hi,
    >> >
    >> >I'm trying to get an accurate comparison of the speed difference between
    >> >two systems which both use the Intel 845GV chipset.
    >> >
    >> >One is a Celeron 2.53 GHz with PC3200 / DDR 400 RAM
    >> >The other is a Celeron 2.8 GHz with PC2700 RAM
    >> >
    >> >What is the difference between PC2700 and PC3200 RAM in the FSB and other
    >> >speeds?
    >> >
    >> >The CPU speed is a pretty small percentage and amounts to about $20 of
    >> >value at today's prices.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> No not a Crap Celeron System, leave well alown as they are All low end budget
    >> systems.
    >>
    >>
    >> No good at all for Games..

    >
    >The price difference between a Celeron and a P4 is substantial. No-one in
    >their right minds would buy a P4 for any application when they don't need
    >the extra power.
    >
    >I haven't played computer games since I was at school. I see no need to
    >spend hours playing games on a computer that could be used for more
    >worthwhile activities, like socialising with family or friends.



    Tell me how can a PC socializing with family or friends, as to me the are not
    a socializing thing at all.

    Plus there are stacks of Adult type games, may you should look into them,
    they would blow your brains out from what you have used in the past.

    Like Far Cry and HL2


    If you are after a simple Cheap PC go get the $999 Del at the Warehouse.
     
    BILL, Apr 3, 2005
    #5
  6. Rob J

    A Guest

    On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:36:03 +1200, BILL
    <> wrote:

    >On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:26:13 +1200, Rob J <> wrote:
    >>I haven't played computer games since I was at school. I see no need to
    >>spend hours playing games on a computer that could be used for more
    >>worthwhile activities, like socialising with family or friends.

    >
    >
    >Tell me how can a PC socializing with family or friends, as to me the are not
    >a socializing thing at all.


    Reread what was originally written - the OP would rather use the
    time spent on computer games doing other activities.

    >Plus there are stacks of Adult type games, may you should look into them,
    >they would blow your brains out from what you have used in the past.
    >
    >Like Far Cry and HL2


    Bu you need a reasonable investment to really get the best out if it.

    >If you are after a simple Cheap PC go get the $999 Del at the Warehouse.


    Maybe - there are still benefits with going for a no-name brand over
    something like a non-upgradable Dell.

    I'd rather buy the cheap DSE package than the Dell. (Sempron 2200 CPU
    and cheaper)
     
    A, Apr 3, 2005
    #6
  7. Rob J

    BILL Guest

    On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 14:09:28 +1200, A <> wrote:

    >On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:36:03 +1200, BILL
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:26:13 +1200, Rob J <> wrote:
    >>>I haven't played computer games since I was at school. I see no need to
    >>>spend hours playing games on a computer that could be used for more
    >>>worthwhile activities, like socialising with family or friends.

    >>
    >>
    >>Tell me how can a PC socializing with family or friends, as to me the are not
    >>a socializing thing at all.

    >
    >Reread what was originally written - the OP would rather use the
    >time spent on computer games doing other activities.
    >
    >>Plus there are stacks of Adult type games, may you should look into them,
    >>they would blow your brains out from what you have used in the past.
    >>
    >>Like Far Cry and HL2

    >
    >Bu you need a reasonable investment to really get the best out if it.
    >
    >>If you are after a simple Cheap PC go get the $999 Del at the Warehouse.

    >
    >Maybe - there are still benefits with going for a no-name brand over
    >something like a non-upgradable Dell.
    >
    >I'd rather buy the cheap DSE package than the Dell. (Sempron 2200 CPU
    >and cheaper)
    >




    A mate brought a upmarket PC with a AMD 64 bit CPU and he has problems some
    programs..
     
    BILL, Apr 3, 2005
    #7
  8. Rob J

    Invisible Guest

    On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 14:52:34 +1200, BILL <>
    wrote:

    >On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 14:09:28 +1200, A <> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:36:03 +1200, BILL
    >><> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:26:13 +1200, Rob J <> wrote:
    >>>>I haven't played computer games since I was at school. I see no need to
    >>>>spend hours playing games on a computer that could be used for more
    >>>>worthwhile activities, like socialising with family or friends.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Tell me how can a PC socializing with family or friends, as to me the are not
    >>>a socializing thing at all.

    >>
    >>Reread what was originally written - the OP would rather use the
    >>time spent on computer games doing other activities.
    >>
    >>>Plus there are stacks of Adult type games, may you should look into them,
    >>>they would blow your brains out from what you have used in the past.
    >>>
    >>>Like Far Cry and HL2

    >>
    >>Bu you need a reasonable investment to really get the best out if it.
    >>
    >>>If you are after a simple Cheap PC go get the $999 Del at the Warehouse.

    >>
    >>Maybe - there are still benefits with going for a no-name brand over
    >>something like a non-upgradable Dell.
    >>
    >>I'd rather buy the cheap DSE package than the Dell. (Sempron 2200 CPU
    >>and cheaper)
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    >A mate brought a upmarket PC with a AMD 64 bit CPU and he has problems some
    >programs..
    >


    A lot of your 'mates' or 'maters' have a lot of problems, don't they?
     
    Invisible, Apr 3, 2005
    #8
  9. Rob J

    Blobby Guest

    "Rob J" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In article <> in nz.comp on
    > Sun, 03 Apr 2005 08:00:33 +1200, BILL <> says...
    > > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 02:34:21 +1200, Rob J <> wrote:
    > >
    > > >Hi,
    > > >
    > > >I'm trying to get an accurate comparison of the speed difference

    between
    > > >two systems which both use the Intel 845GV chipset.
    > > >
    > > >One is a Celeron 2.53 GHz with PC3200 / DDR 400 RAM
    > > >The other is a Celeron 2.8 GHz with PC2700 RAM
    > > >
    > > >What is the difference between PC2700 and PC3200 RAM in the FSB and

    other
    > > >speeds?
    > > >
    > > >The CPU speed is a pretty small percentage and amounts to about $20 of
    > > >value at today's prices.

    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > No not a Crap Celeron System, leave well alown as they are All low end

    budget
    > > systems.
    > >
    > >
    > > No good at all for Games..

    >
    > The price difference between a Celeron and a P4 is substantial. No-one in
    > their right minds would buy a P4 for any application when they don't need
    > the extra power.
    >
    > I haven't played computer games since I was at school. I see no need to
    > spend hours playing games on a computer that could be used for more
    > worthwhile activities, like socialising with family or friends.


    Huh, you might not have seen any recent (last 3 years) games then, team play
    with in game voice communication etc.
    Sometimes I play games to socialise, I've made friends I still have today.

    Forced to make the choice I'd take the machine with the faster RAM.

    Blobby.
     
    Blobby, Apr 3, 2005
    #9
  10. Rob J

    Blobby Guest

    "BILL" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 14:09:28 +1200, A <> wrote:
    >
    > >On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:36:03 +1200, BILL
    > ><> wrote:
    > >
    > >>On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:26:13 +1200, Rob J <> wrote:
    > >>>I haven't played computer games since I was at school. I see no need to
    > >>>spend hours playing games on a computer that could be used for more
    > >>>worthwhile activities, like socialising with family or friends.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>Tell me how can a PC socializing with family or friends, as to me the

    are not
    > >>a socializing thing at all.

    > >
    > >Reread what was originally written - the OP would rather use the
    > >time spent on computer games doing other activities.
    > >
    > >>Plus there are stacks of Adult type games, may you should look into

    them,
    > >>they would blow your brains out from what you have used in the past.
    > >>
    > >>Like Far Cry and HL2

    > >
    > >Bu you need a reasonable investment to really get the best out if it.
    > >
    > >>If you are after a simple Cheap PC go get the $999 Del at the

    Warehouse.
    > >
    > >Maybe - there are still benefits with going for a no-name brand over
    > >something like a non-upgradable Dell.
    > >
    > >I'd rather buy the cheap DSE package than the Dell. (Sempron 2200 CPU
    > >and cheaper)
    > >

    >
    >
    >
    > A mate brought a upmarket PC with a AMD 64 bit CPU and he has problems

    some
    > programs..


    Food for thought... a mate of mine threw out his troublesome Celeron in
    exchange for an AMD 64 and has never looked back. Absolutely awesome
    machine.

    Blobby.
    >
    >
     
    Blobby, Apr 3, 2005
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