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  1. You still around?

    MM^^<--just wondering
    Mountain Mike^^, Feb 29, 2004
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  2. Mountain Mike^^

    Thor Guest

    his royal hyperhandedness is still a regular here.

    ;-)


    ...
    "Mountain Mike^^" <> wrote in message
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    > You still around?
    >
    > MM^^<--just wondering
    >
    >
    Thor, Feb 29, 2004
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  3. Mountain Mike^^

    Michael-NC Guest

    "Thor" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > his royal hyperhandedness is still a regular here.
    >
    > ;-)


    How could he miss him???

    ;-)

    > "Mountain Mike^^" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > You still around?
    > >
    > > MM^^<--just wondering
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    Michael-NC, Feb 29, 2004
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  4. Mountain Mike^^

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    "Mountain Mike^^" <> wrote in news:1043a37rf836m50
    @corp.supernews.com:

    > You still around?
    >
    > MM^^<--just wondering
    >


    Yup, still here. Been working a bit more than usual at three different
    jobs plus I still have school, so I don't reply as much as I used to. I
    get home and check and there are 10 questions and Thor has already answered
    8 of them flawlessly, so I figure I'll just save the bandwith and time to
    repeat Thor :)

    Also I'm working on my site, http://demonlag.com and that's taking a ton of
    time to set up.

    You also may miss me because I don't post through Supernews anymore, I now
    post through Octanews because they are far faster and way cheaper than
    Supernews, but with no where near the spam filtering. So yes, I'm around.

    --
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    email: de_on-lag@co_cast.net (_ = m)
    website: under construction
    Need a technician in the south Jersey area?
    email/IM for rates/services
    DeMoN LaG, Feb 29, 2004
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  5. Mountain Mike^^

    V W Wall Guest

    DeMoN LaG wrote:

    >
    > Also I'm working on my site, http://demonlag.com and that's taking a ton of
    > time to set up.


    Just a note: Checked your site and it's almost unreadable, (blue on black), in
    both Netscape 4.80 and IE 6. The journal part is OK.

    Thought you might want to know.

    P.S.: I can appreciate life in NJ---grew up in Millburn, Army Signal Corps
    basic training at Sea Girt. California has it beat all to hell!

    Virg Wall
    --

    Any sufficiently advanced technology
    is indistinguishable from magic.

    Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law
    V W Wall, Feb 29, 2004
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  6. Mountain Mike^^

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    V W Wall <> wrote in
    news::

    > Just a note: Checked your site and it's almost unreadable, (blue on
    > black), in both Netscape 4.80 and IE 6. The journal part is OK.


    Blue on black!? This is the CSS I'm using to style it:
    body {color: white; background-color: black}

    In both IE6 and Mozilla FireFox nightlies I see white text on a black
    background. Are you sure you aren't loading a custom stylesheet that is
    overriding mine?

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    email: de_on-lag@co_cast.net (_ = m)
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    email/IM for rates/services
    DeMoN LaG, Mar 1, 2004
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  7. "DeMoN LaG" <n@a> wrote in message
    news:Xns949EF1D696E65Wobbly@208.42.66.156...
    > V W Wall <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    > > Just a note: Checked your site and it's almost unreadable, (blue on
    > > black), in both Netscape 4.80 and IE 6. The journal part is OK.

    >
    > Blue on black!? This is the CSS I'm using to style it:
    > body {color: white; background-color: black}
    >
    > In both IE6 and Mozilla FireFox nightlies I see white text on a black
    > background. Are you sure you aren't loading a custom stylesheet that is
    > overriding mine?
    >


    White text on black background for me, only blue is the links, and we both
    know that color is set on my end. :)
    Douglas A. Shrader, Mar 1, 2004
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  8. Mountain Mike^^

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    "Douglas A. Shrader" <> wrote in
    news::

    > White text on black background for me, only blue is the links, and we
    > both know that color is set on my end. :)


    Which isn't technically true, as I could very easily say:
    A {color: red;}
    A:visited {color:yellow;}

    And make it whatever color I want. But in this case, you are correct as I
    don't believe it's necessary to style my links.
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    DeMoN LaG, Mar 1, 2004
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  9. "DeMoN LaG" <n@a> wrote in message
    news:Xns949EF3CDCDF0DWobbly@208.42.66.156...
    > "Douglas A. Shrader" <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    > > White text on black background for me, only blue is the links, and we
    > > both know that color is set on my end. :)

    >
    > Which isn't technically true, as I could very easily say:
    > A {color: red;}
    > A:visited {color:yellow;}
    >
    > And make it whatever color I want. But in this case, you are correct as I
    > don't believe it's necessary to style my links.


    If you did style them you wouldn't use IE's default colors anyway.
    Douglas A. Shrader, Mar 1, 2004
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  10. Mountain Mike^^

    V W Wall Guest

    DeMoN LaG wrote:
    >
    > V W Wall <> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    > > Just a note: Checked your site and it's almost unreadable, (blue on
    > > black), in both Netscape 4.80 and IE 6. The journal part is OK.

    >
    > Blue on black!? This is the CSS I'm using to style it:
    > body {color: white; background-color: black}
    >
    > In both IE6 and Mozilla FireFox nightlies I see white text on a black
    > background. Are you sure you aren't loading a custom stylesheet that is
    > overriding mine?


    Using Netscape 7.1 it's OK as you say. Netscape 4.8 shows the heading
    not centered (all text is set left). Once I removed Proximitron from
    IE 6, it was OK. It's also OK on MyIE2.

    Visited links ars so dark as to be almost invisible on even the
    correct renderings. You might consider litening up the background.
    The journal is OK, but I suppose you're using the "canned" format.

    Hope we soon get over the browser wars! I have to keep IE to get
    Microsoft sites, and I use Netscape 4.8 for most everything else.
    I know it's not the best, but I'm too lazy to change. Will try
    FireFox when I get a round toit.

    Virg Wall
    V W Wall, Mar 1, 2004
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  11. Mountain Mike^^

    Plato Guest

    V W Wall wrote:
    >
    > Hope we soon get over the browser wars!


    Tho they seem to be heating up a bit with the new ones out.

    > I have to keep IE to get
    > Microsoft sites, and I use Netscape 4.8 for most everything else.


    Me too, including silly folks who just do their pages for viewing in IE.

    > I know it's not the best, but I'm too lazy to change. Will try
    > FireFox when I get a round toit.
    Plato, Mar 1, 2004
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  12. Mountain Mike^^

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    V W Wall <> wrote in news:4042D2DA.EA70A684
    @DEADearthlink.net:

    > Using Netscape 7.1 it's OK as you say. Netscape 4.8 shows the heading
    > not centered (all text is set left). Once I removed Proximitron from
    > IE 6, it was OK. It's also OK on MyIE2.


    Netscape 4.8 requires a half million work around hacks to get CSS to work
    at all, and I don't quite care if it shows right in that browser. Anyone
    using a Netscape product should upgrade to a Gecko based product, Netscape
    4.8 is a PITA anyway.

    I'll see if I can't reinstall Proxomitron and see what it is stripping from
    the page that is causing IE to show it incorrectly.

    > Visited links ars so dark as to be almost invisible on even the
    > correct renderings. You might consider litening up the background.
    > The journal is OK, but I suppose you're using the "canned" format.


    I'll consider changing the visited link color. I like white on black, as
    it's very easy to read for most people, as opposed to black on white.

    > Hope we soon get over the browser wars! I have to keep IE to get
    > Microsoft sites, and I use Netscape 4.8 for most everything else.
    > I know it's not the best, but I'm too lazy to change. Will try
    > FireFox when I get a round toit.


    Once you use FireFox, you won't want to go back to Netscape 4.8 :)

    --
    AIM: FrznFoodClerk
    email: de_on-lag@co_cast.net (_ = m)
    website: under construction
    Need a technician in the south Jersey area?
    email/IM for rates/services
    DeMoN LaG, Mar 1, 2004
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  13. Mountain Mike^^

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    Plato <|@|.|> wrote in news:4042d429$0$63578$:

    > Me too, including silly folks who just do their pages for viewing in IE.


    I found a really odd quirk in IE. Using a doctype that puts IE into
    standards mode, having a DIV with text-align: center defined, nested inside
    a DIV with text-align: center defined, the nested DIVs text is shifted
    about 75% to the right. Both DIVs have a width of 100%, so both end up
    encompassing the entire view, but the second DIV ends up being shifted to
    the right by a ton for no reason I can find. From what I see, the CSS I
    used conforms to the W3C's CSS standard, the HTML is 100% valid HTML4.0
    markup, but IE botches the job (both Opera and Gecko browsers show it
    right). This actually made me spend another 15 minutes designing a
    workaround. I wish I could send to Microsoft:

    Bill for services rendered:
    ..25 hours * $30/hr = $7.50
    Reason:
    Crappy bug in your web browser that I have to work around

    But I feel that would end up getting me no where :(

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    email: de_on-lag@co_cast.net (_ = m)
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    DeMoN LaG, Mar 1, 2004
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  14. Mountain Mike^^

    bambam Guest

    V W Wall <> wrote in news:4042D2DA.EA70A684
    @DEADearthlink.net:

    > Will try
    > FireFox when I get a round toit.


    Here's one for ya-

    http://www.fament.com/supermom/aroundtuit.gif

    --
    Change is inevitable, except from vending machines.
    bambam, Mar 1, 2004
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  15. On 01 Mar 2004 07:03:57 GMT, DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote:

    >V W Wall <> wrote in news:4042D2DA.EA70A684
    >@DEADearthlink.net:
    >
    >> Using Netscape 7.1 it's OK as you say. Netscape 4.8 shows the heading
    >> not centered (all text is set left). Once I removed Proximitron from
    >> IE 6, it was OK. It's also OK on MyIE2.

    >
    >Netscape 4.8 requires a half million work around hacks to get CSS to work
    >at all, and I don't quite care if it shows right in that browser. Anyone
    >using a Netscape product should upgrade to a Gecko based product, Netscape
    >4.8 is a PITA anyway.
    >
    >I'll see if I can't reinstall Proxomitron and see what it is stripping from
    >the page that is causing IE to show it incorrectly.
    >
    >> Visited links ars so dark as to be almost invisible on even the
    >> correct renderings. You might consider litening up the background.
    >> The journal is OK, but I suppose you're using the "canned" format.

    >
    >I'll consider changing the visited link color. I like white on black, as
    >it's very easy to read for most people, as opposed to black on white.
    >


    Very light silver/gray, rather than white, on black would be my vote.

    BB


    >> Hope we soon get over the browser wars! I have to keep IE to get
    >> Microsoft sites, and I use Netscape 4.8 for most everything else.
    >> I know it's not the best, but I'm too lazy to change. Will try
    >> FireFox when I get a round toit.

    >
    >Once you use FireFox, you won't want to go back to Netscape 4.8 :)
    BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com, Mar 1, 2004
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  16. Mountain Mike^^

    V W Wall Guest

    bambam wrote:
    >
    > V W Wall <> wrote in news:4042D2DA.EA70A684
    > @DEADearthlink.net:
    >
    > > Will try
    > > FireFox when I get a round toit.

    >
    > Here's one for ya-
    >
    > http://www.fament.com/supermom/aroundtuit.gif
    >

    Thanks. I'll put with my collection of others like it as soon as
    I get aroundtuit!

    Virg Wall

    PS: I am beginning to think I ought to bite the bullet and re-arrange
    my computing set-up. I'm still using Windows98FE with most of the
    MS updates. No problem with crashes, and it is set up to boot to
    Linux RH9 directly from within Windows with a .pif shortcut. Just
    recently had a problem trying to use my son's router to get DSL.
    I know Win98FE has network connection problems, but there are
    supposed to be third party programs that work with it.

    I still use a lot of old DOS programs, some of which I wrote in
    pre-Windows days, so easy access to DOS is important. They all
    work with DOS 7.x, so that's not a problem if I keep FAT32.

    Was thinking of setting up a WinXP computer as a second system.
    I know I could dual boot XP with 98, but that's a bit much.

    Another need for a "Round Tuit"!

    VW
    V W Wall, Mar 1, 2004
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  17. Mountain Mike^^

    V W Wall Guest

    DeMoN LaG wrote:
    >
    > V W Wall <> wrote in news:4042D2DA.EA70A684
    > @DEADearthlink.net:
    >
    > > Using Netscape 7.1 it's OK as you say. Netscape 4.8 shows the heading
    > > not centered (all text is set left). Once I removed Proximitron from
    > > IE 6, it was OK. It's also OK on MyIE2.

    >
    > Netscape 4.8 requires a half million work around hacks to get CSS to work
    > at all, and I don't quite care if it shows right in that browser. Anyone
    > using a Netscape product should upgrade to a Gecko based product, Netscape
    > 4.8 is a PITA anyway.


    I agree entirely, but it works fine with my bank's site, and my two stock broker
    accounts. I use it for e-mail and news groups just out of laziness, where it
    work well enough. It at least avoids some of the MS security problems.
    I have Netscape 7.1, Mozilla and Opera. It's just a matter of moving everything
    that's on N 4.8 now.

    > I'll see if I can't reinstall Proxomitron and see what it is stripping from
    > the page that is causing IE to show it incorrectly.


    I keep Prox on IE because I often use it for big-charts.com, which has
    dozens of ads that Prox eliminates, cutting the time in half. There
    are many sites that Proximitron messes up, even when it's set to "By
    Pass". I think Thor found the same problem.
    >
    > > Visited links ars so dark as to be almost invisible on even the
    > > correct renderings. You might consider litening up the background.
    > > The journal is OK, but I suppose you're using the "canned" format.

    >
    > I'll consider changing the visited link color. I like white on black, as
    > it's very easy to read for most people, as opposed to black on white.


    Just don't use that format for anything you think people might want to print.
    >
    > > Hope we soon get over the browser wars! I have to keep IE to get
    > > Microsoft sites, and I use Netscape 4.8 for most everything else.
    > > I know it's not the best, but I'm too lazy to change. Will try
    > > FireFox when I get a round toit.

    >
    > Once you use FireFox, you won't want to go back to Netscape 4.8 :)


    Now that bam-bam directed me to a Roundtuit, I'll give it a try.
    What makes a good e-mail--news reader complement to FireFox?
    I have X-news, but it seems overly complex.

    Virg Wall
    V W Wall, Mar 1, 2004
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  18. Mountain Mike^^

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    V W Wall <> wrote in news:40438A52.98BE6CA8
    @DEADearthlink.net:

    > Now that bam-bam directed me to a Roundtuit, I'll give it a try.
    > What makes a good e-mail--news reader complement to FireFox?
    > I have X-news, but it seems overly complex.


    Xnews is simple once you figure it out, takes about a week or two to get
    used to it though.

    As for printing, it's real simple, just make another set of style rules
    that apply to printed documents.

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    email: de_on-lag@co_cast.net (_ = m)
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    Need a technician in the south Jersey area?
    email/IM for rates/services
    DeMoN LaG, Mar 1, 2004
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  19. On 01 Mar 2004 20:45:18 GMT, DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote:

    >V W Wall <> wrote in news:40438A52.98BE6CA8
    >@DEADearthlink.net:
    >
    >> Now that bam-bam directed me to a Roundtuit, I'll give it a try.
    >> What makes a good e-mail--news reader complement to FireFox?
    >> I have X-news, but it seems overly complex.

    >
    >Xnews is simple once you figure it out, takes about a week or two to get
    >used to it though.
    >
    >As for printing, it's real simple, just make another set of style rules
    >that apply to printed documents.


    Light gray type is printable with no additional rules needed. It also looks a
    bit more polished and stylish than stark, raw, white on black.

    BB
    BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com, Mar 1, 2004
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  20. Mountain Mike^^

    Trent© Guest

    On 01 Mar 2004 04:46:19 GMT, DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote:

    >V W Wall <> wrote in
    >news::
    >
    >> Just a note: Checked your site and it's almost unreadable, (blue on
    >> black), in both Netscape 4.80 and IE 6. The journal part is OK.

    >
    >Blue on black!? This is the CSS I'm using to style it:
    >body {color: white; background-color: black}
    >
    >In both IE6 and Mozilla FireFox nightlies I see white text on a black
    >background. Are you sure you aren't loading a custom stylesheet that is
    >overriding mine?


    Change the background to something more soothing. Its too hard to
    read.


    Have a nice week...

    Trent

    Follow Joan Rivers' example --- get pre-embalmed!
    Trent©, Mar 2, 2004
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