Dell @ The Warehouse - opinions?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Aaron Zarlos, Jul 4, 2004.

  1. Aaron Zarlos

    Aaron Zarlos Guest

    So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up? Has anyone bought
    one as a spare PC or whatever? I was put off by it being only a Celeron
    Processor, but how would it fare if it were only used for simple web, email,
    etc?

    Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can recommend
    or not recommend?

    TIA
    Aaron Zarlos, Jul 4, 2004
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  2. Aaron Zarlos

    K T T Guest

    "Aaron Zarlos" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up? Has anyone bought
    > one as a spare PC or whatever? I was put off by it being only a Celeron
    > Processor, but how would it fare if it were only used for simple web,

    email,
    > etc?
    >
    > Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can recommend
    > or not recommend?
    >
    > TIA
    >

    They are fine for that basic use.

    Remember they are celeronss.
    K T T, Jul 4, 2004
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  3. "Aaron Zarlos" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up? Has anyone bought
    > one as a spare PC or whatever? I was put off by it being only a Celeron
    > Processor, but how would it fare if it were only used for simple web,

    email,
    > etc?


    Any modern PC can do that much. My friend has the 2.2GHz version of
    the Dell advertised at www.thewarehouse.co.nz. It has a 400MHz FSB and
    I especially noticed how lousy the performance was when loading apps and
    installing software. It uses the Intel 845GL chipset for graphics
    rendering, has
    three PCI slots and ~NO~ ~AGP~ ~PORT~. The HDD is an Hitachi 41.1GB
    UDMA/100 7200RPM. She uses the PC for internet related stuff most of the
    time, so the lack of performance is not a problem.

    Tony.
    --
    Free the North Koreans from their socialist oppressors! Give the
    people Linux, NOW!

    Linux=Freedom!
    The Black Wibble, Jul 4, 2004
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  4. Aaron Zarlos

    Gurble Guest

    On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:39:10 +1200, "Aaron Zarlos"
    <> wrote:

    >So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up? Has anyone bought
    >one as a spare PC or whatever? I was put off by it being only a Celeron
    >Processor, but how would it fare if it were only used for simple web, email,
    >etc?


    They're absolute garbage. As always, you pay for what you get.

    >Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can recommend
    >or not recommend?
    >

    Rather long wait for the system, and Dell's "service" is pretty
    nonexistent.
    Gurble, Jul 4, 2004
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  5. Aaron Zarlos

    GraB Guest

    On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:39:10 +1200, "Aaron Zarlos"
    <> wrote:

    >So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up? Has anyone bought
    >one as a spare PC or whatever? I was put off by it being only a Celeron
    >Processor, but how would it fare if it were only used for simple web, email,
    >etc?
    >
    >Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can recommend
    >or not recommend?
    >
    >TIA


    I built a PC based on a K6-2/550 with 256megs of RAM and 98SE that
    would do all that without breaking into a sweat.
    GraB, Jul 4, 2004
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  6. Aaron Zarlos

    Aaron Zarlos Guest

    "Gurble" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:39:10 +1200, "Aaron Zarlos"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > >So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up? Has anyone bought
    > >one as a spare PC or whatever? I was put off by it being only a Celeron
    > >Processor, but how would it fare if it were only used for simple web,

    email,
    > >etc?

    >
    > They're absolute garbage. As always, you pay for what you get.
    >
    > >Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can

    recommend
    > >or not recommend?
    > >

    > Rather long wait for the system, and Dell's "service" is pretty
    > nonexistent.


    That's what I have heard (about the service). I think I'm going to forget
    about Dell. Assuming I am buying from a "regular" retailer like Harvey
    Norman or Noel Leeming, which of these brands are dodgy in your opinion:

    Acer
    Packard Bell
    HP
    Compaq
    Aaron Zarlos, Jul 4, 2004
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  7. Aaron Zarlos

    Bruce Hoult Guest

    In article <>,
    "Aaron Zarlos" <> wrote:

    > That's what I have heard (about the service). I think I'm going to forget
    > about Dell. Assuming I am buying from a "regular" retailer like Harvey
    > Norman or Noel Leeming, which of these brands are dodgy in your opinion:
    >
    > Acer
    > Packard Bell
    > HP
    > Compaq


    They all are, at the low end.

    You're much much better off paying someone local $100 to build you a
    computer from the major components (case/power supply, motherbard, CPU,
    RAM, disks).

    ASUS and a few others that make quality ATX motherbords are a far better
    "name brand" than HP or Compaq or Dell when it comes to low end
    computers.

    -- Bruce
    Bruce Hoult, Jul 4, 2004
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  8. Aaron Zarlos

    Gurble Guest

    On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:10:11 +1200, "Aaron Zarlos"
    <> wrote:

    >
    >"Gurble" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:39:10 +1200, "Aaron Zarlos"
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >> >So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up? Has anyone bought
    >> >one as a spare PC or whatever? I was put off by it being only a Celeron
    >> >Processor, but how would it fare if it were only used for simple web,

    >email,
    >> >etc?

    >>
    >> They're absolute garbage. As always, you pay for what you get.
    >>
    >> >Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can

    >recommend
    >> >or not recommend?
    >> >

    >> Rather long wait for the system, and Dell's "service" is pretty
    >> nonexistent.

    >
    >That's what I have heard (about the service). I think I'm going to forget
    >about Dell. Assuming I am buying from a "regular" retailer like Harvey
    >Norman or Noel Leeming, which of these brands are dodgy in your opinion:
    >
    >Acer
    >Packard Bell
    >HP
    >Compaq
    >

    Acer's probably the best bet out of that bunch - at least they use
    reasonable hard drives, and standard componentry.

    However, why are you looking only at the big retailers? Try someone
    local - tell us what town you're in, and I'm sure people here will say
    who the good ones are, so you can avoid the sharks!

    You'll generally get a better machine for not much more. The extra
    spent will be on good componentry, and will give you better
    performance overall.

    2c
    Gurble, Jul 4, 2004
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  9. Aaron Zarlos

    ~misfit~ Guest

    GraB wrote:
    > On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:39:10 +1200, "Aaron Zarlos"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up? Has anyone
    >> bought one as a spare PC or whatever? I was put off by it being only
    >> a Celeron Processor, but how would it fare if it were only used for
    >> simple web, email, etc?
    >>
    >> Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can
    >> recommend or not recommend?
    >>
    >> TIA

    >
    > I built a PC based on a K6-2/550 with 256megs of RAM and 98SE that
    > would do all that without breaking into a sweat.


    I have a Celeron 900 with 384MB on a BX board (but with ATA100 IDE), a
    7,200rpm ATA133 system HDD and a GF2 and, other than for demanding games,
    I'll bet most people wouldn't know it wasn't a lot more modern. It's *very*
    responsive, it's even running XP fine.

    Mind you, those coppermine Celerons were good value, better Mhz-for-Mhz than
    P4-based Celerons which have to be the worst since the cache-less Celerons
    that started the name.
    --
    ~misfit~
    ~misfit~, Jul 4, 2004
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  10. Aaron Zarlos

    E. Scrooge Guest

    "Aaron Zarlos" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Gurble" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:39:10 +1200, "Aaron Zarlos"
    > > <> wrote:
    > >
    > > >So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up? Has anyone

    bought
    > > >one as a spare PC or whatever? I was put off by it being only a Celeron
    > > >Processor, but how would it fare if it were only used for simple web,

    > email,
    > > >etc?

    > >
    > > They're absolute garbage. As always, you pay for what you get.
    > >
    > > >Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can

    > recommend
    > > >or not recommend?
    > > >

    > > Rather long wait for the system, and Dell's "service" is pretty
    > > nonexistent.

    >
    > That's what I have heard (about the service). I think I'm going to forget
    > about Dell. Assuming I am buying from a "regular" retailer like Harvey
    > Norman or Noel Leeming, which of these brands are dodgy in your opinion:
    >
    > Acer
    > Packard Bell
    > HP
    > Compaq


    I think you should forget the whole idea. It'll be at least another 10
    years before home computers ever have enough power to send emails like in
    the movies which are set in the future.
    It's only been 2 years since one could get and use a colour monitor on a
    computer.

    E. Scrooge
    E. Scrooge, Jul 4, 2004
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  11. Aaron Zarlos

    Gurble Guest

    On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:24:23 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
    (*sling)> wrote:
    >> > >Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can

    >> recommend
    >> > >or not recommend?
    >> > >
    >> > Rather long wait for the system, and Dell's "service" is pretty
    >> > nonexistent.

    >>
    >> That's what I have heard (about the service). I think I'm going to forget
    >> about Dell. Assuming I am buying from a "regular" retailer like Harvey
    >> Norman or Noel Leeming, which of these brands are dodgy in your opinion:
    >>
    >> Acer
    >> Packard Bell
    >> HP
    >> Compaq

    >
    >I think you should forget the whole idea. It'll be at least another 10
    >years before home computers ever have enough power to send emails like in
    >the movies which are set in the future.
    >It's only been 2 years since one could get and use a colour monitor on a
    >computer.
    >

    Idiot.
    Gurble, Jul 4, 2004
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  12. Aaron Zarlos

    Jerry Guest

    Aaron Zarlos wrote:
    > So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up?


    Got one for mum and the kids when they first became available.
    It runs 24/7. Dual boot, XP for mum and Mandrake for the kids :)
    All is well. I am happy to get what I pay for, this is all they need.

    Jerry
    Jerry, Jul 4, 2004
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  13. Aaron Zarlos

    TmcT Guest

    "Bruce Hoult" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In article <>,
    > "Aaron Zarlos" <> wrote:
    >
    > > That's what I have heard (about the service). I think I'm going to

    forget
    > > about Dell. Assuming I am buying from a "regular" retailer like Harvey
    > > Norman or Noel Leeming, which of these brands are dodgy in your opinion:
    > >
    > > Acer
    > > Packard Bell
    > > HP
    > > Compaq

    >
    > They all are, at the low end.
    >
    > You're much much better off paying someone local $100 to build you a
    > computer from the major components (case/power supply, motherbard, CPU,
    > RAM, disks).
    >
    > ASUS and a few others that make quality ATX motherbords are a far better
    > "name brand" than HP or Compaq or Dell when it comes to low end
    > computers.
    >
    > -- Bruce


    Agree.
    or DIY.
    TmcT, Jul 4, 2004
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  14. Aaron Zarlos

    The Hobbit Guest

    "Aaron Zarlos" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up? Has anyone bought
    > one as a spare PC or whatever? I was put off by it being only a Celeron
    > Processor, but how would it fare if it were only used for simple web,

    email,
    > etc?


    For that use it should be fine, I got one for my folks when they were being
    sold that last time around. No dramas, a far better machine than the Cyrix
    6x86 they *were* using, and at a price point which made them happy to
    upgrade.

    > Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can recommend
    > or not recommend?


    Friend of mine bought a PC via the website, pretty quick delivery, not
    *that* granular with their statuc updates, it's awaiting processing for a
    few days then all of a sudden it's shipped and 6 hours later and email
    arrives to say it's ready for delivery. Depends on your budget and desire to
    get your hands dirty at the end of the day, personally I like to buy the
    bits and build my own - YMMV
    The Hobbit, Jul 4, 2004
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  15. Aaron Zarlos

    geoffm Guest

    On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:39:10 +1200, "Aaron Zarlos"
    <> wrote:

    >Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can recommend
    >or not recommend?

    I bought a laptop from Dell at the start of the year. I like the
    computer - when I finally got it 2 days before I left for the South
    Island. I ordered it 7 weeks beforehand.
    Dell service is "agricultural". Don't expect an answer if you ring up
    with a problem. A knowledge of Hindi would also be useful.
    OTOH, the laptop has been good. Bigger and heavier than say a Sony
    Vario, but it was a tradeoff for $$$ as well, and I don't carry it
    that much.
    For a desktop, see a good local supplier and get one built to your
    needs and budget. Be better value and easier to get fixed if it smokes
    under warranty, or to replace parts if out of warranty.
    Geoff
    geoffm, Jul 5, 2004
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  16. Aaron Zarlos

    Craig Shore Guest

    On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 21:22:49 +1200, Bruce Hoult <> wrote:

    >In article <>,
    > "Aaron Zarlos" <> wrote:
    >
    >> That's what I have heard (about the service). I think I'm going to forget
    >> about Dell. Assuming I am buying from a "regular" retailer like Harvey
    >> Norman or Noel Leeming, which of these brands are dodgy in your opinion:
    >>
    >> Acer
    >> Packard Bell
    >> HP
    >> Compaq

    >
    >They all are, at the low end.
    >
    >You're much much better off paying someone local $100 to build you a
    >computer from the major components (case/power supply, motherbard, CPU,
    >RAM, disks).
    >
    >ASUS and a few others that make quality ATX motherbords are a far better
    >"name brand" than HP or Compaq or Dell when it comes to low end
    >computers.


    I used to think that about ASUS, but I now give them Roger's CRAP mark for their
    mainboards.
    Craig Shore, Jul 5, 2004
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  17. Aaron Zarlos

    E. Scrooge Guest

    "Gurble" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:24:23 +1200, "E. Scrooge" <scrooge@*shot.co.nz
    > (*sling)> wrote:
    > >> > >Also, how is Dell Online, anyone ordered that way before and can
    > >> recommend
    > >> > >or not recommend?
    > >> > >
    > >> > Rather long wait for the system, and Dell's "service" is pretty
    > >> > nonexistent.
    > >>
    > >> That's what I have heard (about the service). I think I'm going to

    forget
    > >> about Dell. Assuming I am buying from a "regular" retailer like Harvey
    > >> Norman or Noel Leeming, which of these brands are dodgy in your

    opinion:
    > >>
    > >> Acer
    > >> Packard Bell
    > >> HP
    > >> Compaq

    > >
    > >I think you should forget the whole idea. It'll be at least another 10
    > >years before home computers ever have enough power to send emails like in
    > >the movies which are set in the future.
    > >It's only been 2 years since one could get and use a colour monitor on a
    > >computer.
    > >

    > Idiot.


    What's basic today isn't all that basic (especially for the very low price
    of today) compared to the TOP range PCs of some years ago, Dopey.
    And what's the point of being able send emails as one of the main
    requirements of any new PC?
    PCs have been able to do basic tasks for years and while having less than
    128MB of RAM.
    For someone wanting a cheap PC that doesn't intend on playing Roger's Far
    Cry etc, today's new buyer couldn't be luckier. Same with those that want
    more power than they'll use on average.

    E. Scrooge
    E. Scrooge, Jul 5, 2004
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  18. Aaron Zarlos

    E. Scrooge Guest

    "Jerry" <> wrote in message
    news:0qRFc.7011$...
    > Aaron Zarlos wrote:
    > > So how do these cheapie PC's at The Warehouse stack up?

    >
    > Got one for mum and the kids when they first became available.
    > It runs 24/7. Dual boot, XP for mum and Mandrake for the kids :)
    > All is well. I am happy to get what I pay for, this is all they need.
    >
    > Jerry


    Good cheap usable PC. Good on them.

    E. Scrooge
    E. Scrooge, Jul 5, 2004
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  19. Aaron Zarlos

    Brendan Guest

    On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 22:36:19 +1200, Gurble wrote:

    >>I think you should forget the whole idea. It'll be at least another 10
    >>years before home computers ever have enough power to send emails like in
    >>the movies which are set in the future.
    >>It's only been 2 years since one could get and use a colour monitor on a
    >>computer.
    >>

    > Idiot.


    Yes, you are correct.

    --

    .... Brendan

    "We learn from experience that men never learn anything from experience." -- George Bernard Shaw

    Note: All comments are copyright 5/07/2004 12:21:21 p.m., and are opinion only where not otherwise stated, and always "to the best of my recollection". www.computerman.orcon.net.nz.
    Brendan, Jul 5, 2004
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  20. Aaron Zarlos

    Disco Stu Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:
    > GraB wrote:


    >>I built a PC based on a K6-2/550 with 256megs of RAM and 98SE that
    >>would do all that without breaking into a sweat.

    >
    >
    > I have a Celeron 900 with 384MB on a BX board (but with ATA100 IDE), a
    > 7,200rpm ATA133 system HDD and a GF2 and, other than for demanding games,


    I have a system running an AMD K2-350 with a 6GB HDD and 64Meg RAM.
    I've only just upgraded it to a PCI video card with 2Meg RAM that
    somebody gave me for free. It had been running for about 5 years with a
    512KB ISA video card. Runs 98SE just fine and can email, browse the
    net and do word processing and printing no problem. Why anybody would
    suggest a 2.2 GHZ celeron isn't up to the task is beyond me.

    The Dell being sold by The Warehouse sounds like a good deal for people
    wanting a low spec box. The Dell service may be slow, but they are
    certainly not fly by night cowboys.
    Disco Stu, Jul 5, 2004
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